I could never see myself taking the item that limits gold to 20. I’ve seen plenty of videos of people getting to 100+ gold, and that just feels like too much of a loss.
@@elsewhereprince3969 yes I was hoping the nullify plus the item would get me more value over time. Early on that relic is awesome and gets Op but later on, with ways to make good gold, it likits
Just a tip, when you plan on doing a build that's based around a particular rare tower (that doesn't reproduce itself) it's almost always a good idea to pair it with a princess. The princess will scale the rare tower even when it isn't showing up/you cant afford it, and it'd make it more likely that you find useful rare towers (since there'd be 2, rather than 1, that'd be useful). Just to illustrate the point, if you had a single level 1 princess tower from the start, it would have given your Builder tower (and another tower) ~72 xp, which is the equivalent xp of ~14 Builder towers. It is a FAR more reliable way of scaling a rare tower than solely relying on the shop
@@huntero1759 I've tried that before, and it seemed to work pretty well for the first two levels, but I'm not sure how well it'd work after that (I don't have access to the extra levels/endless mode, so can't test beyond the first 2 levels). The xp gain scales with the increasing xp level requirements at about the same rate, so it always takes ~2.5 rounds to level up, regardless regardless of the current level. But in the later game, level gain starts to make less and less of a difference, so it might be worth switching one of them out at some point for something that provides more value (and by keeping one, high-level princess, whatever you replace the other one with will gain a level every round for awhile, so will be effectively pretty quickly)
Shame about the nullification, hopefully gets sorted before launch :) Wow that free purchase per turn is a trap, 20 gold limit is waaaay too harsh. Even if it was something absurd like 100 gold limit, you'd basically be opting out of endless.
@@nicholasiverson9784 yea it is a crutch later on unfortunately. I took it in chance to get Builders faster but looking back it hurt me more than helped
@@HaliosTVwould’ve been fine if you built up the price reduction a bit, your gold is capped so you need to get more for each gold. You were buying tons of ladders at 3 gold a piece.
I'm experimenting with malicious towers and trying to do builds for each of them. and watched your video where you say you're taking idea from comments here is a an insolent tower build that I just pulled off with lots of tries and luck: chest, thief, jester, forge, slime, insolent, flower, butler, bear it's really hard to pull off, you need luck, precise tower swapping and money management to survive act 1: bear was a guardian tower, insolent was an obsidian until I got slime, then slime ate iron. when the board was finally full insolent got placed jester was bee to boost flower with honey until I got butler (sadly can't afford free space there for honey with insolent) jester and insolent need to be built late as insolent will only work when your board is full also, if I could continue I would probably replace forge (once insolent comes back with enough stats) for another bear (scaling) or a malicious tower (jester scaling).
Additional build idea: Princess Confetti! The ideal core of the build that you'll want to assemble is Princess-TNT-Princess-TNT-Princess There is no other tower in the game that scales better with levels than the TNT tower, since its explosion damage doubles with every level, making it exponential. The problem is, though, that it's normally pretty difficult to level them up quickly enough to really start taking advantage of their scaling before you die, since they are uncommons and you need to level 2 of them simultaneously (because their explosion on death only affects a single wave). But, with just 2 of then and a few princesses, you might just be able to completely break the game! Here's the breakdown of the strategy (for reference, here's how I'm labeling the positions from now on, with the Royal tower labeled as R: R-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-[10+...]: 1) You'll want to try to start with either the princess (by choosing the "start with princess" option, the "start with a rare" option and rolling up to one time for her, or the "get a rare on the 3rd turn" option and saving a good chunk of money to roll aggressively for her), or some combination of chest, horse, and TNT (the "first round is all uncommons" is the best option for this approach). 2) The ideal econ setup for this build, I think, is having chest-horse-princess at the 1, 2, & 3 spots. I prefer horse over thief here, since he gives you access to extra rares and uncommons (at a discount), both of which are central to the build (between chest, horse, and TNT, the horse should give you useful uncommons pretty often), and the princess leveling him will help make up for him being harder to come by. 3) For defense, if you can get an early TNT in the 4 or 6 spot, it will be able to take care of the first 5 rounds all on its own. If you can manage to get 2 early on, you should be able to make it past the first boss without *too* much difficulty, if you select decent towers for the 8 & 9 spots. Glass-defender or glass-glass might be helpful to make sure you get past the first boss, but it's really dealer's choice; the 8 & 9 spots only need to keep you alive just long enough for you to start leveling your TNT's up. 4) The first time Royal levels, I'd take either +2 coins/turn if my econ feels weakest, +10/+10 if my defense feels weakest, or a rarity upgrade each roll if they both feel solid. 5) If you can live, prioritize tf out of obtaining and/or leveling your TNT's; if you can get them each to level 5, theyll be doing 128 damage on death. If you can get them to level 7, you're looking at 512. By the time they reach just level 10, they'll be doing a whopping $4k damage each!
Would it be an idea to stop rolling at 10 gold in builds like these builder towers? you "lose out" on spending some gold once, but then guarantee you can afford the rare if it shows up
A build that I really like is using milks+cats, and then adding a slime tower with an empty space in the front. Whenever you can get a coffee tower, the slime eats it and turns those sad temporary bonuses to sweet, delicious perma-stats.
Build idea: Launching Royals Into Space! The idea is to chain as many princesses as you can together, to try to scale your Royal Tower to the moon! Don't forget, the goal is to level the castle, so no chest or horse next to it
I haven't tried it myself yet, but I imagine the best way to do this would be: 1) Start with a princess turn 1, right next to the royal tower so she can start leveling it up to get quicker rewards. 2) Build up your econ on the righthand side of the board, except for the front space, with chests/thieves or chests/horses, I can't decide if horses or thieves would be better; horses give you guaranteed rares the turn after they're placed or level up, at a discount too, and you'll NEED as many princesses as you can get early on, but they dont produce as much money as thieves do since they're harder to level up, which means you wouldn't get to roll as much in the long run to find more princesses in the shop. If you can get princess-horse-chest together, the princess leveling the left-most horse might help make up for it's comparatively worse econ. 3) Put a dice tower in the right-most space; you're probably gonna be rolling a lot in search of princesses, so that tower should hopefully help keep you alive long enough to assemble enough of them to out-scale the enemies. Unless you feel like you have to, try not to roll down to less than 10 coins too often; you'll want to make sure you get every princess that you come across, and basically only spend the bare minimum that you need to on other stuff to survive. It's not as punishing for the dice tower's scaling as you might think, to hold onto ~10 coins every/most turns; you're basically just keeping 10 in reserve, but still spending all the gold you make each turn, so you're not really losing that many stats on your dice tower (especially since, again, you'll likely be rolling a lot more than usual to find princesses). 4) For maximum scaling, add princesses from left to right, until you're out of spaces (at which point, you shouldn't need to bother getting princesses at all anymore). The only exception would be if you've got a horse-chest setup on the right, and you feel like you need to scale the horse for more econ/rares. 5) Since you'll be leveling your royal tower more/faster, you'll get more rewards than usual. Depending on how your econ and defense are looking, you'll almost always want to take either +2 gold/turn if your econ is lagging too much in the early game, 1 shop upgrade per roll if your econ is doing even just 'okay' (this one will seriously increase the rate at which you can find princesses!), or +10/+10 if you're struggling to stay alive. Keep in mind, the more princesses you chain together, starting from the left, the quicker your royal tower will level. The quicker it levels, the more rewards you'll get to stack on! I think the best case scenario that could potentially work, if everything goes just right, would eventually look like: Royal-Princess*6-horse-chest-dice If things go well, but maybe not great, I think Royal-Princess*5-horse-chest-thief-dice would be the next best setup you could end up with. If things don't break your way, you might only be able to get away with something like Royal-Princess*4-horse-chest-thief-[whatever is needed]-dice (even this setup would probably be pretty difficult to achieve, since it relies on getting so many of the same rare tower). It might take a few tries to get it going quickly enough, but if you can get the engine ticking, I think it could have some *excellent* potential to dominate in the late game/endless mode. Some carefully timed and selected pivots in the late game, replacing a couple princesses with towers that benefit A LOT from leveling, could turn you into an unstoppable beast! 2 TNT towers would probably be the best towers to replace a couple of princesses with, since they double their explosion damage with each level. Which gives me an idea for another, probably much better/easier-to-assemble build....
XD consider mass buffing a single mosquito tower. I only had this level of luck like...once Butler tower, milk tower, and use a cat token on the mosquito. Builder tower and a frog tower in the future and just keep leveling the mosquito. Now, if u can get the stairway to heaven perk where there is no max level, you're set forever. The max i got was 11 annoyances with mosquito doing almost 200 damage (lore accurate amazonian mosquito)
I wanted to make a bee run and got the extra tower slot so I ran chest theif bee bee bee obsidian flower (empty for honey) guardian and guardian any tips on making it better
replace a bee or guardian with a bear, the bear scales with the flower consuming honey, replace the obsidian with coffee (or honey) and the tower to the left of it with slime, coffee gets 2x bonus from flower and is then consumed by the slime, if bear is level 2 it will scale twice each round from the slime and flower consuming towers
You should have not taken the artifact that limited your gold and saved your gold to buy several builder towers after a boss wave. After you build the ladder towers, you wasted a bunch of money on rerolls because you could not save the money. If you saved 40-100 , you could have bought several build towers.
Hey Halios, i really love playing the game and learned a LOT from your Videos as i initially sucked real bad at this game. I would really love to test out some of the beta stuff aswell, how is that possible?
so here is a build idea which i cant get to work properly because i dont have acces past the lvl 20 boss and is quite hard to pull of but has a crazy potential Build orde works best like this Royal Tower, Chest Tower, Thief tower, Jester Tower, 2x Princess Towers, Tower of Debt, Slime Tower, Insolent Tower, Bear Tower as for relics the best starting relic should be stairway to heaven, after that golden goose or the coupong the way this works best is that you start with an iron tower instead of the insolent tower. and its crucial to have the iron tower on level 3 and bear tower bvor you consider placing the slime tower after that feed the slime tower as many iron towers as possible until the second boss or try hitting a level 6 insolent tower before that. its crucial that you level up bear and slime alot so both can eat more and more. the devine tower works best because of its level possibilities of the towers it brings along the moment you get the level 6 insolent tower it only grows with each time it got eaten if you manange to bring it up to level 12 it basicaly doubles its stats each time. with that i wish good luck with that build if you try it out
THIS. Suggested that build on the hydra video. Really want to see it work out in a game longer than 20 rounds. Got as far as the slime, jester, insolent setup once but demo ended on round 20.
I remember having a load of fun using 2 sets 3 towers (milk, slime, iron tower) or sub in (butler) with a buffed bear, and always getting extra money from crown towers, early on I just get pass by with ladders and iron tower lvl3 once I get the slime I sac them
chest- thief- builder- princes- princes- builder- ladder- ladder- guard. ofcourse with stairway. maybe replace the guard later in the run with another ladder. gives you scaling
Three latters are useless as the scaling is linear for each of them to infinity, 3 level 10 = 1 level 30 the only difference being that one takes 3 slots instead of 1. so that build would be better with one ladder tower and maybe even 3 or even more princesses for ultimate scaling and then put ladder next to princess as a level 3 princess gives ladder tower an extra level every turn. Extra space can also be used for price reduction tower or combination tower.
you also forget the whole effect of your relics/items/perks the item that makes the first item free also makes it so you cant have more than 20 gold u always forget this and continue to invest in economy
@@regiliok I took it and the nullify to potentially build Builder faster at the start. And I invested in Thief to have another larger tower to build on besides ladder with the builder
Yeah gold limit big mistake plus u missed the redemption by building ascetic early to make the most of your limited gold It appears to me u underrate the ascetic way too much in your runs, maybe not hard focus it early but after the unifying is like lv4 you can build that up cheap and get way more out of your gold and rerolls , also at that point (without gold limit at least ) chests become easy to lvl and gain you so much This is not meant as harsh as it might sounds , love your videos on this but i also wonder about the missed opportunities
Unfortunately there's 100 different combos in these types of games that people can go lol. I always play around with new paths to experiment. This run, the ladders were taking more damage so I had to try to buff them, or I would've never gotten past the waves.
brother you got the limit of 20 gold gotta not level the easy level up tower cause it doesn't work on the ladder tower and focus on the towers cost less tower and use your first free tower on it
Whatever the strongest build is would just be scaling the scaling scaling. But I mean it’s not that hard to end with some crazy insane stats built but it is hard to get to the end game so the best build would just be the most consistent eg bee flower. A sick thing to go for could be a million princesses with builder tower, eventually getting rid of your money generation for a builder on the left & right with princesses filling the gap because of the rarity you might want a high level horse early for the card rewards it gives & you would need to find anyway to survive early like maybe a early dice because you probably will not get what you need for a long time. As per usual stairway to heaven op & removal tokens
in my opinion vagebond sack is really bad, it makes your income basicly null and void since endgame economy almost alway always gives you more then 20 gold even in the demo let alone your extended version of the game so it saving you 3-10 gold doesn't matter if you miss 20 gold because of it.
I could never see myself taking the item that limits gold to 20. I’ve seen plenty of videos of people getting to 100+ gold, and that just feels like too much of a loss.
@@elsewhereprince3969 yes I was hoping the nullify plus the item would get me more value over time. Early on that relic is awesome and gets Op but later on, with ways to make good gold, it likits
Just a tip, when you plan on doing a build that's based around a particular rare tower (that doesn't reproduce itself) it's almost always a good idea to pair it with a princess.
The princess will scale the rare tower even when it isn't showing up/you cant afford it, and it'd make it more likely that you find useful rare towers (since there'd be 2, rather than 1, that'd be useful).
Just to illustrate the point, if you had a single level 1 princess tower from the start, it would have given your Builder tower (and another tower) ~72 xp, which is the equivalent xp of ~14 Builder towers.
It is a FAR more reliable way of scaling a rare tower than solely relying on the shop
you could even princess the princess so the xp gain even scales (i dont know if you could princess into a royal or divine but you probably could)
@@huntero1759 I've tried that before, and it seemed to work pretty well for the first two levels, but I'm not sure how well it'd work after that (I don't have access to the extra levels/endless mode, so can't test beyond the first 2 levels).
The xp gain scales with the increasing xp level requirements at about the same rate, so it always takes ~2.5 rounds to level up, regardless regardless of the current level.
But in the later game, level gain starts to make less and less of a difference, so it might be worth switching one of them out at some point for something that provides more value (and by keeping one, high-level princess, whatever you replace the other one with will gain a level every round for awhile, so will be effectively pretty quickly)
Shame about the nullification, hopefully gets sorted before launch :)
Wow that free purchase per turn is a trap, 20 gold limit is waaaay too harsh. Even if it was something absurd like 100 gold limit, you'd basically be opting out of endless.
@@nicholasiverson9784 yea it is a crutch later on unfortunately. I took it in chance to get Builders faster but looking back it hurt me more than helped
@@HaliosTVwould’ve been fine if you built up the price reduction a bit, your gold is capped so you need to get more for each gold. You were buying tons of ladders at 3 gold a piece.
Yea def messed up some.
I'm experimenting with malicious towers and trying to do builds for each of them. and watched your video where you say you're taking idea from comments
here is a an insolent tower build that I just pulled off with lots of tries and luck:
chest, thief, jester, forge, slime, insolent, flower, butler, bear
it's really hard to pull off, you need luck, precise tower swapping and money management to survive act 1:
bear was a guardian tower,
insolent was an obsidian until I got slime, then slime ate iron. when the board was finally full insolent got placed
jester was bee to boost flower with honey until I got butler (sadly can't afford free space there for honey with insolent)
jester and insolent need to be built late as insolent will only work when your board is full
also, if I could continue I would probably replace forge (once insolent comes back with enough stats) for another bear (scaling) or a malicious tower (jester scaling).
Additional build idea: Princess Confetti!
The ideal core of the build that you'll want to assemble is Princess-TNT-Princess-TNT-Princess
There is no other tower in the game that scales better with levels than the TNT tower, since its explosion damage doubles with every level, making it exponential.
The problem is, though, that it's normally pretty difficult to level them up quickly enough to really start taking advantage of their scaling before you die, since they are uncommons and you need to level 2 of them simultaneously (because their explosion on death only affects a single wave).
But, with just 2 of then and a few princesses, you might just be able to completely break the game!
Here's the breakdown of the strategy (for reference, here's how I'm labeling the positions from now on, with the Royal tower labeled as R: R-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-[10+...]:
1) You'll want to try to start with either the princess (by choosing the "start with princess" option, the "start with a rare" option and rolling up to one time for her, or the "get a rare on the 3rd turn" option and saving a good chunk of money to roll aggressively for her), or some combination of chest, horse, and TNT (the "first round is all uncommons" is the best option for this approach).
2) The ideal econ setup for this build, I think, is having chest-horse-princess at the 1, 2, & 3 spots. I prefer horse over thief here, since he gives you access to extra rares and uncommons (at a discount), both of which are central to the build (between chest, horse, and TNT, the horse should give you useful uncommons pretty often), and the princess leveling him will help make up for him being harder to come by.
3) For defense, if you can get an early TNT in the 4 or 6 spot, it will be able to take care of the first 5 rounds all on its own. If you can manage to get 2 early on, you should be able to make it past the first boss without *too* much difficulty, if you select decent towers for the 8 & 9 spots. Glass-defender or glass-glass might be helpful to make sure you get past the first boss, but it's really dealer's choice; the 8 & 9 spots only need to keep you alive just long enough for you to start leveling your TNT's up.
4) The first time Royal levels, I'd take either +2 coins/turn if my econ feels weakest, +10/+10 if my defense feels weakest, or a rarity upgrade each roll if they both feel solid.
5) If you can live, prioritize tf out of obtaining and/or leveling your TNT's; if you can get them each to level 5, theyll be doing 128 damage on death. If you can get them to level 7, you're looking at 512. By the time they reach just level 10, they'll be doing a whopping $4k damage each!
Would it be an idea to stop rolling at 10 gold in builds like these builder towers?
you "lose out" on spending some gold once, but then guarantee you can afford the rare if it shows up
I do see your point but it is also a catch 22 because I need to build my other towers as well
A build that I really like is using milks+cats, and then adding a slime tower with an empty space in the front. Whenever you can get a coffee tower, the slime eats it and turns those sad temporary bonuses to sweet, delicious perma-stats.
Ohhhhh this sounds awesome!
Never found a strong use for the slime. This might be it
GG royal tower build Gaurdians up front glass in the back its fun when it works cause it feels like it shouldn't
Agreed!!
Build idea: Launching Royals Into Space!
The idea is to chain as many princesses as you can together, to try to scale your Royal Tower to the moon!
Don't forget, the goal is to level the castle, so no chest or horse next to it
I haven't tried it myself yet, but I imagine the best way to do this would be:
1) Start with a princess turn 1, right next to the royal tower so she can start leveling it up to get quicker rewards.
2) Build up your econ on the righthand side of the board, except for the front space, with chests/thieves or chests/horses, I can't decide if horses or thieves would be better; horses give you guaranteed rares the turn after they're placed or level up, at a discount too, and you'll NEED as many princesses as you can get early on, but they dont produce as much money as thieves do since they're harder to level up, which means you wouldn't get to roll as much in the long run to find more princesses in the shop. If you can get princess-horse-chest together, the princess leveling the left-most horse might help make up for it's comparatively worse econ.
3) Put a dice tower in the right-most space; you're probably gonna be rolling a lot in search of princesses, so that tower should hopefully help keep you alive long enough to assemble enough of them to out-scale the enemies. Unless you feel like you have to, try not to roll down to less than 10 coins too often; you'll want to make sure you get every princess that you come across, and basically only spend the bare minimum that you need to on other stuff to survive. It's not as punishing for the dice tower's scaling as you might think, to hold onto ~10 coins every/most turns; you're basically just keeping 10 in reserve, but still spending all the gold you make each turn, so you're not really losing that many stats on your dice tower (especially since, again, you'll likely be rolling a lot more than usual to find princesses).
4) For maximum scaling, add princesses from left to right, until you're out of spaces (at which point, you shouldn't need to bother getting princesses at all anymore). The only exception would be if you've got a horse-chest setup on the right, and you feel like you need to scale the horse for more econ/rares.
5) Since you'll be leveling your royal tower more/faster, you'll get more rewards than usual. Depending on how your econ and defense are looking, you'll almost always want to take either +2 gold/turn if your econ is lagging too much in the early game, 1 shop upgrade per roll if your econ is doing even just 'okay' (this one will seriously increase the rate at which you can find princesses!), or +10/+10 if you're struggling to stay alive. Keep in mind, the more princesses you chain together, starting from the left, the quicker your royal tower will level. The quicker it levels, the more rewards you'll get to stack on!
I think the best case scenario that could potentially work, if everything goes just right, would eventually look like: Royal-Princess*6-horse-chest-dice
If things go well, but maybe not great, I think Royal-Princess*5-horse-chest-thief-dice would be the next best setup you could end up with.
If things don't break your way, you might only be able to get away with something like Royal-Princess*4-horse-chest-thief-[whatever is needed]-dice (even this setup would probably be pretty difficult to achieve, since it relies on getting so many of the same rare tower).
It might take a few tries to get it going quickly enough, but if you can get the engine ticking, I think it could have some *excellent* potential to dominate in the late game/endless mode.
Some carefully timed and selected pivots in the late game, replacing a couple princesses with towers that benefit A LOT from leveling, could turn you into an unstoppable beast!
2 TNT towers would probably be the best towers to replace a couple of princesses with, since they double their explosion damage with each level.
Which gives me an idea for another, probably much better/easier-to-assemble build....
The tower slot after demolishing chest could be for Flower. That’s the only thing that can fix your eco at that point.
True true
XD consider mass buffing a single mosquito tower. I only had this level of luck like...once
Butler tower, milk tower, and use a cat token on the mosquito. Builder tower and a frog tower in the future and just keep leveling the mosquito. Now, if u can get the stairway to heaven perk where there is no max level, you're set forever.
The max i got was 11 annoyances with mosquito doing almost 200 damage (lore accurate amazonian mosquito)
I wonder if having a Dice tower that has a 100% Clover chance together with the Perpetual Spinning Top will lead to infinite clovers.
O.O
I....omg the possibilities!
I wanted to make a bee run and got the extra tower slot so I ran chest theif bee bee bee obsidian flower (empty for honey) guardian and guardian any tips on making it better
replace a bee or guardian with a bear, the bear scales with the flower consuming honey, replace the obsidian with coffee (or honey) and the tower to the left of it with slime, coffee gets 2x bonus from flower and is then consumed by the slime, if bear is level 2 it will scale twice each round from the slime and flower consuming towers
When you’re in the second round if you choose the boss reward of extra gold but have a limit of 20 I don’t think it is counting
Nah very true!
So at 15:00 rolling was good because you already had 20 gold income which was the max.
Oh true!
Is there a point not stacking ladder tower on top of each other at the beginning ? It seems you would have way more attack for the same hp
Not completely honestly. I should build them to the top
You should have not taken the artifact that limited your gold and saved your gold to buy several builder towers after a boss wave. After you build the ladder towers, you wasted a bunch of money on rerolls because you could not save the money. If you saved 40-100 , you could have bought several build towers.
Agreed! I def made a mistake!
Hey Halios, i really love playing the game and learned a LOT from your Videos as i initially sucked real bad at this game. I would really love to test out some of the beta stuff aswell, how is that possible?
Hopefully soon! I hope to have good news coming! Right now it is restricted
so here is a build idea which i cant get to work properly because i dont have acces past the lvl 20 boss and is quite hard to pull of but has a crazy potential
Build orde works best like this
Royal Tower, Chest Tower, Thief tower, Jester Tower, 2x Princess Towers, Tower of Debt, Slime Tower, Insolent Tower, Bear Tower
as for relics the best starting relic should be stairway to heaven, after that golden goose or the coupong
the way this works best is that you start with an iron tower instead of the insolent tower.
and its crucial to have the iron tower on level 3 and bear tower bvor you consider placing the slime tower after that feed the slime tower as many iron towers as possible until the second boss or try hitting a level 6 insolent tower before that.
its crucial that you level up bear and slime alot so both can eat more and more.
the devine tower works best because of its level possibilities of the towers it brings along
the moment you get the level 6 insolent tower it only grows with each time it got eaten if you manange to bring it up to level 12 it basicaly doubles its stats each time.
with that i wish good luck with that build if you try it out
That sounds very tough to achieve, but should result in on of the fastest scaling builds :D
THIS. Suggested that build on the hydra video. Really want to see it work out in a game longer than 20 rounds. Got as far as the slime, jester, insolent setup once but demo ended on round 20.
Oh gawd the numbers this must do.
It is OVER 900000000
Yesssss
I remember having a load of fun using 2 sets 3 towers (milk, slime, iron tower) or sub in (butler) with a buffed bear, and always getting extra money from crown towers, early on I just get pass by with ladders and iron tower lvl3 once I get the slime I sac them
chest- thief- builder- princes- princes- builder- ladder- ladder- guard. ofcourse with stairway. maybe replace the guard later in the run with another ladder. gives you scaling
Oh this sounds nasty fun!
And I thought builder princess builder would probably be too greedy
For the demo it is. For endlessmode its worth it in the long run
Three latters are useless as the scaling is linear for each of them to infinity, 3 level 10 = 1 level 30 the only difference being that one takes 3 slots instead of 1. so that build would be better with one ladder tower and maybe even 3 or even more princesses for ultimate scaling and then put ladder next to princess as a level 3 princess gives ladder tower an extra level every turn. Extra space can also be used for price reduction tower or combination tower.
What happens If you max level the royal tower?, (by placing 2 princesses next to it so they level and give xp to the royal tower)
you also forget the whole effect of your relics/items/perks
the item that makes the first item free also makes it so you cant have more than 20 gold u always forget this and continue to invest in economy
@@regiliok I took it and the nullify to potentially build Builder faster at the start. And I invested in Thief to have another larger tower to build on besides ladder with the builder
@@HaliosTV Yeah if the game worked correct I think Halios made all the right calls, his Builder tower would of been huge
Yea would've loved to see it work!
Yeah gold limit big mistake plus u missed the redemption by building ascetic early to make the most of your limited gold
It appears to me u underrate the ascetic way too much in your runs, maybe not hard focus it early but after the unifying is like lv4 you can build that up cheap and get way more out of your gold and rerolls , also at that point (without gold limit at least ) chests become easy to lvl and gain you so much
This is not meant as harsh as it might sounds , love your videos on this but i also wonder about the missed opportunities
Unfortunately there's 100 different combos in these types of games that people can go lol. I always play around with new paths to experiment.
This run, the ladders were taking more damage so I had to try to buff them, or I would've never gotten past the waves.
brother you got the limit of 20 gold gotta not level the easy level up tower cause it doesn't work on the ladder tower and focus on the towers cost less tower and use your first free tower on it
Whatever the strongest build is would just be scaling the scaling scaling. But I mean it’s not that hard to end with some crazy insane stats built but it is hard to get to the end game so the best build would just be the most consistent eg bee flower.
A sick thing to go for could be a million princesses with builder tower, eventually getting rid of your money generation for a builder on the left & right with princesses filling the gap because of the rarity you might want a high level horse early for the card rewards it gives & you would need to find anyway to survive early like maybe a early dice because you probably will not get what you need for a long time.
As per usual stairway to heaven op & removal tokens
This was a fun run!
@@watchbot7517 agreed!
sadge no stairway to heaven and that nullify bug
I know. I was really hoping too
i would level up first chest to 4 and then axe thief and other chest getteing 2 more builders
Noted!
try: chest,thief,lucky tower, dice untill it is full
Nullication token seems buggy.
Yea it might need to be looked at
in my opinion vagebond sack is really bad, it makes your income basicly null and void since endgame economy almost alway always gives you more then 20 gold even in the demo let alone your extended version of the game so it saving you 3-10 gold doesn't matter if you miss 20 gold because of it.
Yea it’s a lesson learned. I honestly wish we could delete the relics sometime