The arrogance of some of these commentators is astounding. "State educated", and "These are the same kids who bullied me for my lunch money on my way to public school". Rude and sneering.
Judging by her stints in the Home Office then if Braverman becomes leader she won't even make until the next election so it'd be a brief spell as opposition, at most. Any Tory who has designs on being PM would be better letting someone else go in first, take a lot of flak and then look to build on that later.
People are sick to death of the extreme ideologies in all parties . The problem is what’s been missing from our politics for generations is . A social conscience and a sense of doing things for the greater good . Putting people and country before o party
of course not. If anythings even slightly right wing "bunch of racist, fascist, right wing nutters" this channel is pathetic. Gonna do the "do not recommend" on it.
Of course it's important. Only 7% of people attend private school. Having so many of them in the media and in politics *should* be alarming to anyone who wishes to see a fair, equal and meritocratic society.
Well the Etonians etc have had it for the last 14 years and made a dogs breakfast with their trickle down economics, culture wars, corruption and incompetence. I'm pleased to see people who live in the same world as me and my family running things
@@mup_pet every countries have private schools, Hongkong has private schools too. Wealthy people send their kids to private schools in Hong Kong, or boarding schools oversea, even you ban all the private schools in UK, wealthy people can still send their kids to boarding schools oversea
Make no mistake, it does unsettle them. Imagine going to an elite institution away from your parents aged 8. You see normal people on the street. You know they are not in your group. The idea is that you are above them.
labour wins from the centre - the Tories win from centre-right or right. ask Heath & Maggie. Cameron didn't get a majority May nearly lost...Boris purely won on a Brexit ticket and needed Nigels help
@@paulcarter4945Most unpopular winner, I like that. Hopefully he'll be competent, but he's proven he isn't very good at getting voters excited to go out and vote for him. The supposedly unelectable Jeremy Corbyn got more votes in 2017 and even 2019.
@@bobi6191 1 in 5 eligible voters through our outdated electoral system, where every vote doesn't count...- gave them a disgusting majority to destroy achievement and make a success of your life, built off their politics of envy.
I dont see the point in their party, if they arent going to get back to being a right wing party then there is absolutely no point to them, might as well vote Labour or Lib Dem. Its REFORM only for me and any genuine vetted Conservative should move to REFORM but WEF lovers need not apply.
Every Conservative MP that says they went a 'Broad Church' as long as it doesn't include anyone from the Right. If so, then what is the point of The Conservative Party?
They failed to conserve the people. They have changed us beyond all recognition. Just look at the england football team for a start. Its more than just politics.
"One thing we can be certain of. Is that the new House of Commons is diverse. In terms of race, gender and sexuality" - Really surprised to hear that from a sociologist. She really put a lot of thought into that.
Never trust Braverman and Rishi Sunak. Both of the is putting up a show that they are against each other. Braverman was sack by Truss and Sunak place her as his right hand man. Trusting them is like digging your own grave.
Let’s hope we have hard working and lucky rather than self absorbed and incompetent for years to come. It must be sad being stuck as a Conservative voter with no party sharing your values.
I am making the dubious assumption That there may be some sensible people left in the Parliamentary Conservative party Badenoch or braverman Surely some form of electoral sanity will prevail
I think you need to come to terms with reality, namely that the tories, especially after the shambles of the last 8 years will be in opposition for at least a decade.
This is the end of the road for the the Tories, they have one chance now and it's Suella. I will only return if she is leading the party! She's speaks complete sense and is a breath of fresh air!
A win for either of these idiots is a loss for the Conservative Party. Penny Mordaunt was the only adult in the room and she's gone now so... Well, the Conservatives deserve what they get.
Odd that nobody mentions the aftermath of the Tories catastrophic defeat in 1997. Odd because their internal squabbling is almost a carbon copy of the circumstances leading up to that election. I suggest the aftermath this time is also going to be pretty much the same - a record-breaking (hopefully permanent) absence from power and a ludicrous bad-tempered thrashing about trying to find a leader to last for more than 5 minutes.
Absolutely incredulous what is going on within the conservative political party. Tactical move on behalf of sunak running off to the governor to seek approval to remove himself and at the same time giving it to those who fought against him. They’ve all lost their posts well the majority of them. Equally in that equation the call for war and the Damocles Sword has been passed to Starmer… it’s all so crass really 😂😂😂😂😂😂
There have been plenty. Penny Mordaunt. Priti Patel. What I would say of Braverman is she is always very well dressed. She has a great sense of style and she is clearly prepared to spend plenty of money on her wardrobe.
@@mikekaraoke I think he means voting wise. Reform would lose votes to the tories if Kemi or Suella became leader.. I'd never vote tory again but some people would
Starmer is lucky because he has a NATO summit in his first week? Sunak had a huge D-Day memorial during the election campaign, a great opportunity to look like a statesman, and somehow turned it into a disaster.
Same. If the Tories choose Badenoch, and Braverman crosses the floor to Reform it'll be a big win for Reform and a nail in the coffin for the so-called Conservative Party.
The issue is discipline. Instead of sticking together when things got tough, they ruthlessly replaced a leader who was elected by the membership and electorate with someone nobody wanted. How can you hold together a country when you can't even hold together your party? So why would anyone trust them again?
Rather than soul-searching and rebuilding, the Tories are only making things worse since the election. I'm beginning to think that they could drop into 3rd place in 2029.
Yes, it would be nice if assembling a diverse cabinet or diverse Parliament wasn’t itself a success. But when so many conservatives want to roll back rights or make people existing illegal, representation matters.
giles coren's act is insufferable. the guy thrives on odium, like those strains of fungi that grow on radioactive spills in unvisitable dark places.
I met his dad, Alan , he was a proper gentleman. His Don however is a twit.
@@ljd8520 he is a nepobaby par excellence. along with people like toby young who litter british public life with their hapless, tepid takes.
Those damm comprehensive kids and their sticky fingers!!
odd, seem to be double posting...
Giles and Victoria, nepo babies.
The arrogance of some of these commentators is astounding. "State educated", and "These are the same kids who bullied me for my lunch money on my way to public school". Rude and sneering.
Yes, it probably does unsettle them quite deep down. I voted Reform. When that woman said gammon, its all there.
@@adude9882 There's no decent reason to vote reform
@@jimmyrecard5056 Seems like a lot of people are getting unsettled by them.
Giles is the typical champagne socialist, sneering at the average man in the street who went to state school.
@@MrAoldham Coren is never a socialist, just your standard private school and Oxford educated entitled oik
Giles is just vile. He really needs to listen to himself speak.
Viles Coren !
Yawn. It’s over for the Conservative Party.
Old song: The party's over. It's time to call it a day.
They’re called Labour now, there isn’t a left wing in the U.K. anymore,
Let's hope so
Jimmy Savile got away.
@@williamcarrington61 but the tories gave him a knighthood
The last thing the UK needs one of those two
Makes no difference to the UK what a minority party does 😂
Insensitive and immature black girls who sink the Conservatives
Judging by her stints in the Home Office then if Braverman becomes leader she won't even make until the next election so it'd be a brief spell as opposition, at most. Any Tory who has designs on being PM would be better letting someone else go in first, take a lot of flak and then look to build on that later.
People are sick to death of the extreme ideologies in all parties . The problem is what’s been missing from our politics for generations is . A social conscience and a sense of doing things for the greater good . Putting people and country before o party
Not exactly a balanced panel
of course not. If anythings even slightly right wing "bunch of racist, fascist, right wing nutters"
this channel is pathetic. Gonna do the "do not recommend" on it.
The Scales are faulty .
If your looking for balance on this propaganda channel you will wait a long time
Black barbarian Tories destroying the Conservatives!
Posh tools.
Daddies still toolmakers.
The Tories need to go away and consider their options for at least a decade, then retire.
They should step aside and let Reform do the job.
No. Ten decades.
I have only one thing to say to these two. 'Nooooooooo!'
Braverman should move to reform with her seat in Parliament
Farage has always demanded by-elections in such situations, which would be an interesting early test.
she will do if she loses the leadership election
They are definitely more akin to her politics than the tories
I agree with a proviser being that she admits the last Tory government was mugging the electorate and REFORM'S presented policies are brilliant.
Wrong colour though
“State educated…” the UK is still so hung up by class even now …
Of course it's important. Only 7% of people attend private school. Having so many of them in the media and in politics *should* be alarming to anyone who wishes to see a fair, equal and meritocratic society.
Well the Etonians etc have had it for the last 14 years and made a dogs breakfast with their trickle down economics, culture wars, corruption and incompetence. I'm pleased to see people who live in the same world as me and my family running things
@@mup_pet every countries have private schools, Hongkong has private schools too.
Wealthy people send their kids to private schools in Hong Kong, or boarding schools oversea, even you ban all the private schools in UK, wealthy people can still send their kids to boarding schools oversea
That's their point, you've got the wealthy controlling media influence. @@yipzoe3865
Make no mistake, it does unsettle them. Imagine going to an elite institution away from your parents aged 8. You see normal people on the street. You know they are not in your group. The idea is that you are above them.
labour wins from the centre - the Tories win from centre-right or right. ask Heath & Maggie. Cameron didn't get a majority May nearly lost...Boris purely won on a Brexit ticket and needed Nigels help
That was long before working class area's were flooded with Islamists by labour. Now strong immigration policies will gain the working class voters
Cameron won a higher number of votes than Starmer. And he did win a majority
@@jim-es8qk 2010 no - 2015 barely. mainly due to the collapse of the liberals. Starmer will always have that medal of the most unpopular winner
@@paulcarter4945Most unpopular winner, I like that. Hopefully he'll be competent, but he's proven he isn't very good at getting voters excited to go out and vote for him. The supposedly unelectable Jeremy Corbyn got more votes in 2017 and even 2019.
@@bobi6191 1 in 5 eligible voters through our outdated electoral system, where every vote doesn't count...- gave them a disgusting majority to destroy achievement and make a success of your life, built off their politics of envy.
Yet no one there to fight for the veterans. Yet it was them who sent them to war
Braverman just come to Reform the tories are Finished lol
braverman will stay with the tory meal ticket,,,,she is a fair weather politition
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I dont see the point in their party, if they arent going to get back to being a right wing party then there is absolutely no point to them, might as well vote Labour or Lib Dem. Its REFORM only for me and any genuine vetted Conservative should move to REFORM but WEF lovers need not apply.
@@motelryes, she seems where her butter will be spread best.
@@maccagrabmeAsking an Asian to join a rebranded National Front party😂😂😂
Reform: the rejected Tories who were too scared to join UKIP.
No one will vote for either of these two. It will be the end of the conservative party.
Every Conservative MP that says they went a 'Broad Church' as long as it doesn't include anyone from the Right. If so, then what is the point of The Conservative Party?
Far right isn’t conservative though, they’re extremist which is the polar opposite to conservative thought….
They failed to conserve the people. They have changed us beyond all recognition. Just look at the england football team for a start. Its more than just politics.
They still haven't learned their lesson.
@user-ze7vb5cx3yYou're using the American definition of what a conservative is
@user-ze7vb5cx3y Am I wrong
Are they both living up to their Surnames? BRAVE-man , BAD-enoch Ha ha
Their husbands surnames 🤣
Are they both married to Jews?
"One thing we can be certain of. Is that the new House of Commons is diverse. In terms of race, gender and sexuality" - Really surprised to hear that from a sociologist. She really put a lot of thought into that.
Will the last white heterosexual male please switch off the lights as he leaves the Conservative party.
Both Badenoch and Braverman are very Good Tories. This is not about colour nor gender but ability and integrity and both pass that threshold.
think that was Borris and he left years ago.
@FHIPrincePeter They are both awful. And they are one of the reason people are voting for Reform
@@FHIPrincePeterThey are both awful. And they are one of the reason people are voting for Reform
@@FHIPrincePeterability and integrity? Really? Wow.
Two more muppets.
Never trust Braverman and Rishi Sunak. Both of the is putting up a show that they are against each other.
Braverman was sack by Truss and Sunak place her as his right hand man.
Trusting them is like digging your own grave.
You never see David Whamy and Diane abotttt together..... hmmm.....
We look like a Republic each day
Diverse, shall be the downfall of the masses
Why is sturgeon still there
Yall forgot abt priti Patel tories like her ruthlessness
but voters see her as thick
Farage will not bow down to Tories never in a blue moon 🌑
@Antoinette-Hewer-xe3oh Why would he want to, he is a far better politician than any Tory.
@@jeannemillsom9300 HIs wish has always to be leader of the Tory Party. Maybe not now but some time in the future I think he will for sure be leader.
@@ForestFan74 load of nonsense making it up as you go along 😂
Farage will do what Farage always does which is what is best for Farage.
Reform is the new British Union Party and Farage is its Mosley.
The tories have not always been liberal.
Suella get off that sunken wreck and come n join the Reform you are very welcome
Asian and a Black vying to run the Tories ... Never thought I would live long enough to see this .
Whats why Tory is finished, too many wrong people with wrong mindset, travesty basically
Explain...
They've lost the plot. Never go 100% diverse.
@paulinnanjing it's inexplicable
Let me guess u are a reform voter
Interesting to know what the other side is thinking, but after 14 years of tories and 10 min of this, I have enough.
If the wets stay in charge I'll stay with Reform.
Cats fighting in a sack 😂
Which stage of denial is times radio conservative broadcast in? 😂
The public are not listening to the misinformation and right wing bias anymore.
While the times is telling us that the tories dont know what they are, could the Times tell us what they are too ?
I wouldn't give either rhe time of day.If she joins Reform then the party will die.
Bring that on. Farage can't live in a party with 5 MPs, it's too big for him.
I can’t think of two worst candidates (actually Liz Truss)
Fishi Rishi, Borris Johnson, Lord David Cammeron
@@AzguardMikeBoris and Cammeron could win elections!!
@@AzguardMikehe’s changed his name to Lord David Hameron
@@AzguardMike I'll give you Boris, those four and Mogg guy
Keir Starmmer is a very intelligent man
Let’s hope we have hard working and lucky rather than self absorbed and incompetent for years to come. It must be sad being stuck as a Conservative voter with no party sharing your values.
I’m feeling shame and shaky, none of you are capable of becoming a party leader but the outsider. Shame on your education system.
Imagine quoting Titania McGrath unironically. State of it.
Love Labour ❤🙌🏾
I keep seeing items on this channel that look interesting, only to find that they are very superficial if not trivial.
Open boarders stamer
Explain ...
I am making the dubious assumption
That there may be some sensible people left in the
Parliamentary Conservative party
Badenoch or braverman
Surely some form of electoral sanity will prevail
levelling up was just another ridiculous meaningless slogan. Cruella has lost the plot and is destined to join Farage and Reform.
Bye Tories. Hello Reform.
Did the presenter really say that everyone would want to meet the prime minister, proper presstitute there.
The Clash of Two Tokens
I think you need to come to terms with reality, namely that the tories, especially after the shambles of the last 8 years will be in opposition for at least a decade.
Giles Coren is a stain on journalism
Is "tough" effective, or is it just appearances that doesn't solve anything?
This is the end of the road for the the Tories, they have one chance now and it's Suella. I will only return if she is leading the party! She's speaks complete sense and is a breath of fresh air!
If you’ve been in the UK for 16 years you really ought to have more idea what you’re talking about, even if you’re Canadian. Grotesquely superficial.
Here they go again..... 🙄 So glad they are now irrelevant on the big stage.
A win for either of these idiots is a loss for the Conservative Party. Penny Mordaunt was the only adult in the room and she's gone now so... Well, the Conservatives deserve what they get.
what she talking about? starmers cabinet isn t diverse at all.
12 women...2 ethnic minority...majority state educated.
How much more diversity were you after?
Blacks for REFORM UK 🇬🇧....we got ya back...
Odd that nobody mentions the aftermath of the Tories catastrophic defeat in 1997. Odd because their internal squabbling is almost a carbon copy of the circumstances leading up to that election. I suggest the aftermath this time is also going to be pretty much the same - a record-breaking (hopefully permanent) absence from power and a ludicrous bad-tempered thrashing about trying to find a leader to last for more than 5 minutes.
Also if braverman wins the Tory leadership contest it will further increase the damage for them.
They cant win being left wing, they need right wing policies and leadership. Their most successful leader was Thatcher, firmly right wing.
Tory newspaper Labour government? Let’s ask an arrogant toff and a Canadian what they think of the government.
The Cabinet is Diverse in terms of Intelligence … and competence
Absolutely incredulous what is going on within the conservative political party. Tactical move on behalf of sunak running off to the governor to seek approval to remove himself and at the same time giving it to those who fought against him. They’ve all lost their posts well the majority of them. Equally in that equation the call for war and the Damocles Sword has been passed to Starmer… it’s all so crass really 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who is the twit wittering on as a guest pundit? The Times really has hit new lows of journalism. In fact you can't even call this journalism.
Who is the private school educated P....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Talking a load of tripe 😂😂😂😂
He’s an online bully who cheers at people’s death, it’s puzzling how he still has a job, he must have dirt on some editor
Is it me or is Suella Braverman the first ever attractive British Politician?
Its you!!
There have been plenty. Penny Mordaunt. Priti Patel. What I would say of Braverman is she is always very well dressed. She has a great sense of style and she is clearly prepared to spend plenty of money on her wardrobe.
You need to check out Angela Rayner's fun bags!
Badenoch if she gets to be leader we will not return to the Tory party and will stay with the Reform Party,
That makes no sense, as Kemi is with the Tories and not Reform!
@@mikekaraoke I think he means voting wise. Reform would lose votes to the tories if Kemi or Suella became leader.. I'd never vote tory again but some people would
Olukemi olufunte is not for me i will stick with nigel thanks
They’ve failed the people. They need new people.
Braverman is a characature of herself. Bring it on!
Braverman would have deported her own parents!
Labours hands aren’t tied, what are you talking about, the tories are in free fall?
Starmer is lucky because he has a NATO summit in his first week? Sunak had a huge D-Day memorial during the election campaign, a great opportunity to look like a statesman, and somehow turned it into a disaster.
Suella, come on over to Reform the party of the future. Britain first. above everything. Tories are old had their finished
Oh, the irony.
British above all others!
Had their finished what?
Yes...5 seats...Next stop - Government!!! 😂😂😂
@@randyschwagginsI love this comment so much. It’s all yes come 2029 well be the opposition what with there 5 seats 😂😂
Love Braverman can't stand Badenock
You need help.
Same. If the Tories choose Badenoch, and Braverman crosses the floor to Reform it'll be a big win for Reform and a nail in the coffin for the so-called Conservative Party.
Has Giles Coren always been a berk?
Braverman, stop ****ing about. Join REFORM.
The woman spoke absolute nonsense. The tories wouldn't stop going on about their diversity (at the top only anyway). Jesus wept.
The issue is discipline. Instead of sticking together when things got tough, they ruthlessly replaced a leader who was elected by the membership and electorate with someone nobody wanted. How can you hold together a country when you can't even hold together your party? So why would anyone trust them again?
Gets even worse both of them for leader..lol
Braverman is insane 😊
Why ask this poncey food critic what he thinks||?
Oooooh. TORY FM IS MUNCHING ON THOSE SOUR GRAPES!
Rather than soul-searching and rebuilding, the Tories are only making things worse since the election. I'm beginning to think that they could drop into 3rd place in 2029.
Starmer doesn't have a fxcking clue.
Their voters will soon find this out.
Yes Boris knew what to do clearly
He's not clever like Liz Truss 😂😂😂
Diversity is going to take us a long long way- pay for the MOD budget, prop up the NHS, pay the doctors & nurses, yep, Diversity will do it all.
Both tories both conservatives Labour is conservatives
He said council houses for the poor
That's what he said
Why is the life long food critic giving political commentary?!?
Oh yes, old school tie
He’s insufferable
Tough choice, a hate preacher v the most arrogant ignorant MP of all time.
Yes, it would be nice if assembling a diverse cabinet or diverse Parliament wasn’t itself a success. But when so many conservatives want to roll back rights or make people existing illegal, representation matters.
Why don’t you people just admit that Labour have made an impressive start!!
So happy for Brits but why oh why can't this happen in the US to the Republican Party?
Because the Dems have Biden
Corens father would be ashamed of him.Rude ,self satisfied ,pillock.
Father and sister had and have class and were fun.
Suellas wasting her time hangin around those Eton nobheads
Does anybody like Giles Coren?
These presenters really believe their party - the Tories - are still important. Hilarious. As for Braverman, she will soon join Reform.
Build on the grey belt not green
Badenoch and braverman lol 😅😅😅😅. Tories are toast
They need to ditch the dinosaurs and get new faces in.
The markets are a fact of life and can respond positively just as well
What a toss??