How to write a MODAL chord PROGRESSION (that sounds modal)

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  • In this video we’ll explore the ways to come up with real modal sounding chord progression. An explanation on what to take in account when dealing with modal scales and progressions, which chords work and more important: which don’t. Modal harmony is very different from the tonal harmony we’ll find with the major and minor keys. We call this kind of harmony: functional harmony. Modal harmony is something else. Other rules apply!
    So let me take you along in this video to explore the possibilities and some things to consider when writing modal chord progressions that will actually sound modal.
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  • @PierFrancescoPiccolomini
    @PierFrancescoPiccolomini 4 роки тому +245

    This is a little masterpiece. I've seen thousands of videos on modes, and this is in the top three. Very, very well done! Thanks!

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  4 роки тому +8

      Thank you so much for this nice comment!

    • @111101010
      @111101010 4 роки тому +15

      What are the other two of the top three?

    • @Yann-wd7ol
      @Yann-wd7ol 4 роки тому +10

      I totaly agree, thx a lot for your work QJamTracks ! If it don't bother anyone, @Pier Francesco Picc. can you share de 2 other ? I'm hungry of learning ! :D

    • @ephraimcj455
      @ephraimcj455 3 роки тому +4

      Other 2?

    • @PierFrancescoPiccolomini
      @PierFrancescoPiccolomini 3 роки тому +8

      @@Yann-wd7ol ua-cam.com/video/96cydVB4w-A/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/ZMWwwJRIdHU/v-deo.html

  • @thehumanpractice2985
    @thehumanpractice2985 23 дні тому +2

    Ive just noticed, after thoroughly examining a lot of videos of modes.... that Ive always used them, and never realized how I was using them. I still don't know how I am using them, but at least I know that I don't know how I use something I didn't know I knew! Keep practicing, studying more, which one should I focus on

  • @cesarperez-cardenas97
    @cesarperez-cardenas97 2 роки тому +13

    The whole "ditch[ing] functional harmony" was what I needed. I never understood which chords to play and always ended up sound Major or Minor. This was a perfect, little video. Thank you. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say how helpful this video was.

  • @top.secret000
    @top.secret000 3 роки тому +72

    This is literally everything I’ve ever wanted from a modal harmony tutorial. Thanks a million for this, this is the go-to lesson for learning to compose in modes.

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Josua!

    • @ELLIOT8209
      @ELLIOT8209 2 роки тому

      @@QJamTracks hi, I watched another video and was left very confused.
      At 12:45 you state that the IV chord needs to be avoided but in the following video at 7:39 it states that the IV chord needs to be included in the progression to ensure that we get the DORIAN feel.
      I'm so confused
      Here's the video.
      ua-cam.com/video/BWqJ0NvxNEg/v-deo.html

  • @dannuttle9005
    @dannuttle9005 3 місяці тому +2

    I've never seen anyone point out before that the tritone wants to resolve either inward or outward. Good point. Also: "D Dorian becomes C major if we use the wrong chords from the Dorian scale." I just ran into this last night. I have been working on composing in Dorian, and yeah, I found myself in C major. It's an example of how important it is to sit down and play around with concepts, and find out for yourself.

  • @michaelsmusic3532
    @michaelsmusic3532 3 роки тому +15

    Sir,
    I have played music for 40+ years ( or made noise, depending )
    You have by far THE BEST instructional videos that I've ever seen. I'm recommending you to everyone I know ...
    Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work, your passion for music really shows !
    Rock on Bro
    ~ Michael

  • @ohvnaq
    @ohvnaq Рік тому +1

    i actually enjoy the sound of that whole-tone scale mentioned in the beginning quite a lot

  • @tobbebergman7583
    @tobbebergman7583 3 роки тому +13

    15:32
    "The more ambiguous, the more expressive"
    -Leonard Bernstein

  • @FlorianPi
    @FlorianPi Рік тому +1

    Interesting video! Thanks a lot! I have some additional remarks:
    1, "Modal scales and harmony has nothing to do with functional harmony"
    --> To some extent I agree. V7-> I, the very basic concept around functional harmony, is only possible in a normal major scale. Even when applying this framework to minor, certain chromatic modifications have to be made (the very reason harmonic/melodic minor exists)
    --> From a theoretical perspective, the concept behind dominant -> tonic has three main characteristics: The resolution of the tritone (resolving the most dissonant interval to a consonant interval provides tension and resolution), the presence of a leading tone that resolves to the tonic note (7->1) and that the root note of the progression moves by a descending fifth.
    If one or two of those characteristics is lacking, you end up with a weaker dominant -> tonic resolution. But I would argue that such a resolution still exists (e.g. v-i in natural minor, v-I in Mixolydian), even if it's weaker.
    --> Also the concept around functional harmony can be extended further. One example is "axis theory" (by musicologist Erno Lendvai). I find that approach useful, however the context seems to matter a lot (something the theory itself ignores). The bII chord (the second chord in Phrygian) is usually thought as an replacement for the dominant ("tritone substitution"). In classical harmony that chord was rather used as predominant chord (bII6-V7-i; a.k.a. Neapolitan cadence).
    --> Furthermore, one could always make chromatic modifications to a mode in order to get "stronger functions" (the idea of harmonic minor is to introduce a V7 chord in Aeolian, the same idea can literally be employed in any other mode).
    2, "There is no tonal gravity, but equality between chords"
    --> That statement contradicts the idea behind modal music. If there is not any tonal gravity, a tonal center would not exist (and you would end up with pandiatonic music). The very idea of modes is that the tonal center is shifted to a different pitch than in a standard major scale.
    --> It seems more that the tonal center is not as strongly defined in modal music (as V7-I resolutions are not possible if the "pure" mode is used).

  • @royjohnson3361
    @royjohnson3361 16 днів тому +1

    Just bookmarked this; great explanation.

  • @banglachord
    @banglachord 4 роки тому +3

    I have been searching for modal progression! No one told me they kinda dont exist. Thank you so much.

  • @juanlalor1787
    @juanlalor1787 4 роки тому +4

    Finally someone explains the BIG difference between relative moding and changing keys.
    My head was aching until u clarify the concept.

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  3 роки тому +1

      Good to hear this clarifies it for you. Thanks for using my video Juan!

  • @schnapsdrossel78
    @schnapsdrossel78 4 роки тому +46

    By far the best I have seen on that topic so far. Thanks a Lot!!!

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  4 роки тому

      Thanks man! Glad to see the video is of use!

    • @PIANOSTYLE100
      @PIANOSTYLE100 3 роки тому

      @@QJamTracks Agree.

  • @vicenteinspiron
    @vicenteinspiron 4 роки тому +4

    I gave up on understanding modes a long time ago until I found this video. Thanks lot, I finally understand how to write in a specific mode.

  • @AJSoundbites
    @AJSoundbites Рік тому +1

    This one is hands down the extension of the old Joe Satriani video where He explained modes in such an easy way on the guitar by using the low E as the pedal tone as he switches through the different modes of E. Damn, was just looking for something to revise on after years of being away from music but ended up finding a golden nugget.

  • @cyan_aura
    @cyan_aura 3 роки тому +3

    I usually don't bookmark videos, but this one along with the previous one are jems. I can't thank you enough 🙏

  • @Awolter84
    @Awolter84 Рік тому +3

    Been playing almost 30 years and this video is one of the best modal videos I have seen.
    Great lesson!

  • @callumfrew285
    @callumfrew285 4 роки тому +22

    Your animations and graphics in this lecture are the best I've seen for this topic, thanks

  • @Leopold---1320
    @Leopold---1320 Рік тому

    I'm almost 100% certain this could have been WAY more simple to explain. This is almost like a refresher course for people who already know this.

  • @sandermashi8689
    @sandermashi8689 3 роки тому +3

    I cant' stop thanking you ! This lesson is supreme !!! Never understood this armony till now .Thanks a lot.

  • @chronicdisease1722
    @chronicdisease1722 2 роки тому

    Watch the lead, and come back. This is an incredible video.

  • @GeorgeFrantzis
    @GeorgeFrantzis 3 роки тому +2

    Finally! A comprehensive video on UA-cam explaining how to write modal progressions. Please include melodic and harmonic minor modes in one of your next videos. Thank you.

  • @pathlesscreative
    @pathlesscreative 3 роки тому +8

    I was laying down listening to your tutorial. Literally had to get out of bed to replay 17:08 A dorian is str8 fire

  • @Jake66564
    @Jake66564 3 роки тому +4

    Stumbled upon this and didn't know how much I needed it! Thanks

  • @Jam_Gordon
    @Jam_Gordon 5 років тому +29

    Probably one of the best videos I've come across when it comes to explaining how to write modal progressions. Love your content and backing tracks^^

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  5 років тому +1

      Tahnks Jamie! Glad you like the videos :)

  • @armansrsa
    @armansrsa Рік тому

    you simply cannot grasp modes without first understanding tonal harmony so the fact that you spent 1 quarter of the video on this is good! Very well done to you.

  • @smoothjoolz
    @smoothjoolz 2 роки тому

    The Penny has almost dropped... That PEDAL note is the key for me. Many thanks.

  • @tonyboyhume3878
    @tonyboyhume3878 Рік тому +1

    yes - this is certainly a real clarifier. very good indeed

  • @mikebryant4146
    @mikebryant4146 3 роки тому +2

    Brilliant video. Thanks so much as you have simply answered a long-standing question about modal composition for me. Many 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿!!!

  • @henriquemaia6530
    @henriquemaia6530 4 роки тому +4

    Finally, someone teaches clearly and objectively! This opens up a universe of possibilities! thank you so much!

  • @johnaeff
    @johnaeff 2 роки тому

    I just found this channel yesterday and it pushed concentration , nearly blowed me away , super lessions ! Great !

  • @lucasdiasguitarrista
    @lucasdiasguitarrista 3 роки тому +1

    Jesus, you and troy grady are on another level! The best lesson about modal chord progressions on youtube!

  • @mangalisomdingi9733
    @mangalisomdingi9733 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much.
    That C Major chart with all its modes helped drive home a point that never stuck in my head, "all modes are derived from the relevant major scale"
    🤯 it's all become easier to memorise or work out if I get stuck

  • @chriswrighton5162
    @chriswrighton5162 Рік тому

    This channel is a goldmine, with pure gold seams!

  • @flux1940
    @flux1940 3 роки тому +1

    This is criminaly good. Clear and exact the best mode toturial right now on youtube. Wow

  • @bogodarov
    @bogodarov 4 роки тому +2

    All that I've learned for a half of year in 15 munites!

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  4 роки тому +2

      I'm glad you liked the video :)

  • @solo_international777
    @solo_international777 4 роки тому +7

    Amazing! This really ties everything ive learned in a lifetime of music together ---Very very well done!!! Will watch over and over!!!! GREAT!!!!!

  • @joskun
    @joskun 3 роки тому +1

    One of the best videos on modes and my favorite one so far.
    All the concepts, lead, harmony in 1 video.
    Thank you so much!!!

  • @darleneofthetallpines5742
    @darleneofthetallpines5742 2 роки тому +2

    This is an excellent video! I have watched several videos on modes from other producers, and I have learned quite a bit by watching them. Just wanted you to know that your video covers the issues with tritones better than any of the others I've seen. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in such a clear way!

  • @gautamasakyamuni6688
    @gautamasakyamuni6688 4 роки тому +6

    The best lesson about Modal harmony so far,great job! Clear concise and to the point.

  • @thegermantomoeser
    @thegermantomoeser 3 роки тому +1

    Wow. Wunderful piece of explanation! Keep doing such great videos.

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar 4 роки тому +3

    So glad I found your. Excellent tutorials.

  • @AlexiKaruna
    @AlexiKaruna 4 місяці тому

    Very well explained something I've never been able to grasp before. Already on my second go through of the video. Excellent!

  • @josesequerosvalle
    @josesequerosvalle 4 місяці тому

    I can FINALLY write something with modes! Thanks dude

  • @user-pm2xj9st6f
    @user-pm2xj9st6f 2 місяці тому

    Great advice about staying away from the tritones in other modes!

  • @googlepigs7027
    @googlepigs7027 Рік тому

    You guys dont need the other 2....
    This says it ALL. PERFECTLY !
    *Great* Qjamtracks !

  • @dadmadforgot4050
    @dadmadforgot4050 Рік тому

    This man is clearly the GOAT. Brilliant 🤩

  • @rafa_guitar
    @rafa_guitar 3 роки тому +1

    I revisited this video today, after watching so many videos about harmony, this is a real masterpiece, It is really worthy, invaluable. Thank you so much for your channel Rob and for sharing, for your time and effort and for teaching the way you do it, I really appreciate it.

  • @heavymetalmusictheory
    @heavymetalmusictheory 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing info, delivery, and setup. Thank you

  • @otv88
    @otv88 3 роки тому +1

    I've also been hunting for a good Modes video all over the Tubes, but this is THE best one by far. Many thanks...I get it now.

  •  4 роки тому +2

    Great video! Exactly what I was looking for

  • @sbennettyt
    @sbennettyt 4 роки тому +3

    Best explanation of modes I have seen. On a whole new level.

  • @musicmad4514
    @musicmad4514 2 роки тому

    Simply stunning - excellent guide in every way. Crystal clear, well-expressed and have no words to convey what a gem you have shared with the rest of us all. Thank you very much.

  • @PSTroise
    @PSTroise 3 роки тому +4

    This is brilliant. I have been trying to understand modes for years. I’m totally self taught and started as an adult so everything is a lot of work. I will have to listen to this more than once, but in order to apply these illustrations to my own songs, and that’s the way to learn, to be able to experiment with the new information. Thank you so much.

  • @georgenace102
    @georgenace102 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent tutorial! I find that this is the best video I have seen on the topic so far and is really well presented. Kudos!

  • @timothyclay3668
    @timothyclay3668 3 роки тому +2

    Brilliant... really well explained and very useful for composition. Thank you.

  • @DavidStJames11
    @DavidStJames11 Рік тому

    A very clear path. I will watch this video 1000 more times to really solidify it. Thank you. Cheers

  • @producermind9030
    @producermind9030 2 місяці тому

    Great video. Especially the last half. The last 2 tips were really good. Loved the examples as well.

  • @dmc549
    @dmc549 3 роки тому +2

    This is an incredible video. 11/10. Very well done.

  • @timsmith190
    @timsmith190 2 роки тому

    I have seen and studied dozens of modal videos. This one is hands down the most comprehensive and useful one I've seen.

  • @TheFullbend
    @TheFullbend 5 років тому +6

    This is soooooo clarifying! Years of research comes to an end! Simply awesome!!!

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  5 років тому

      Thanks! Very glad that is usefull for you Matheus!

  • @johannjensson6190
    @johannjensson6190 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanation. Subscribed!

  • @mohantyjams6031
    @mohantyjams6031 3 роки тому +1

    Best use of 18 mins ever. Phenomenal. Just phenomenal. I will be going back to this video and making notes. Splendid job man on bringing so much clarity on such a pivotal concept in music.

  • @coloaten6682
    @coloaten6682 2 роки тому

    Brilliant! The most concise lesson on Modal Harmony I've seen on YT. Well done and thanks :).

  • @afrohawk
    @afrohawk 3 роки тому

    This is the best explanation of writing music with modes I've ever seen. Definitely will watch again and again. Fantastic!!!

  • @SBanas
    @SBanas 3 роки тому

    This video is what I needed to understand modal harmony. In 17 min you condensed all the information I was lacking for 15 years of my guitar playing!

  • @luweiliu3921
    @luweiliu3921 3 роки тому +1

    mind blowing video! And the explanation is the best among all the video I've seen. Thank you so much for making this 😁

  • @TheAnthropic
    @TheAnthropic 3 роки тому +2

    This is excactly the lesson I needed on modes. Thank you so much!

  • @maitrikarna9278
    @maitrikarna9278 Рік тому +1

    Your comparison of music to visual art is extremely helpful for how I think, both in just making it logical and also in making it interesting

  • @clairy_music
    @clairy_music 3 роки тому +1

    This is the best tutorial I have ever seen!! Thank you.

  • @lastrolo1517
    @lastrolo1517 3 роки тому

    That’s helped clarify quite a few theory things I have heard but not fully grasped as a self-taught guitar player dabbling in some of the modes. Pedal tones really help maintain the ‘flavour’ of the mode for me. Thanks! 😊

  • @danobradovic8636
    @danobradovic8636 3 роки тому +1

    Exceptional! Much thanks.

  • @Nautijan
    @Nautijan 4 роки тому +1

    so clear, amazing

  • @stephenmcg4299
    @stephenmcg4299 3 роки тому

    This tutorial is perfect. Really clear and concise, but quite comprehensive.

  • @francoisdevillecraig993
    @francoisdevillecraig993 3 роки тому +1

    I think this may be the clearest and most helpul explanation I've ever seen. Thank you.

  • @Virtual-Media
    @Virtual-Media 10 місяців тому

    You’re lessons have a way teaching a language that is too difficult for many to grasp.
    Thank you! It’s always been a way I wanted to communicate..

  • @ziptidy
    @ziptidy 2 роки тому

    Rob, this was a great tutorial. Thanks for your hard work and insight.

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere 2 роки тому

    Thank you very much for making such an excellent lesson! This answered so many of my questions, it was really helpful for me. The examples were excellent and your explanations were awesome.
    I also found it incredibly helpful to see how the chords of the diatonic major scale are shifted for the various modes. I couldn't quite understand how those chords were arrived at from other people's videos explaining this topic.

  • @frankus54
    @frankus54 2 роки тому

    Great work and excellent production - thanks

  • @balbino4
    @balbino4 9 місяців тому +2

    Very very very very good!
    Thank you very much!

  • @MsDavo123
    @MsDavo123 2 роки тому

    THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH FOR THIS LESSON it was so clear and sooo helpful!

  • @darylm.stephens9603
    @darylm.stephens9603 3 роки тому +1

    Great tutorial video !

  • @henkhenk4357
    @henkhenk4357 Рік тому

    This should be the go to video for anyone who wants to learn/understand modes ! Absolutely THE BEST!

  • @ozboomer_au
    @ozboomer_au 11 місяців тому

    A VERY nice summary of modal harmony... even IF! I'm just starting out on using the modes (although I've studied them a lot in recent weeks). Like others have said, this video is literally a short masterclass that ties-in so very well with tonal harmony. Many thanks for posting it...

  • @coachp7486
    @coachp7486 4 роки тому +4

    Have to agree with many of the same recent comments. One of THE best tutorials on modes. Feels like what it may be like in a formal music school to me. And your diagrams and charts are truly v helpful. Ty so much !

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  4 роки тому

      Thanks for your nice comment!

  • @RockerProf
    @RockerProf Рік тому

    Best video EVER on how to practically use modes to make music. Thank you so much.

  • @BobbyWallisch
    @BobbyWallisch 2 роки тому

    Best video on modes ever! It was a moment of enlightenment for me, when you said that - when composing in modes - you can/must forget the concept of SubDominant and Dominant. Now I finally understand why Ionian and Aeolian are the standard Scales, because only they got that I-IV-V harmony structure built in. I always loved that floating quality of modal harmony sequences. Now I know why. Thanks a lot. I'll advertise your channel on my FB.

  • @GuitarFromTheHeart
    @GuitarFromTheHeart 4 роки тому +8

    This is by far the best explanation on this subject that I have seen. I've been looking for years on and off. Greatly appreciated! You have a great channel I will be following in the future.

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  4 роки тому

      Thanks man!!

    • @PIANOSTYLE100
      @PIANOSTYLE100 3 роки тому

      Definitely Top notch..One of the clearest..Great video work.

  • @tonymccormick21
    @tonymccormick21 8 місяців тому +1

    Agreed. This was just all new to me but laid out so well. Thank you

  • @alexandremulton4901
    @alexandremulton4901 Рік тому

    Awesome, great video!

  • @ANON0061
    @ANON0061 2 роки тому

    This is the best video on modal chords I have ever seen. Many thanks!

  • @JohnnyGuitarRocks
    @JohnnyGuitarRocks 5 років тому +2

    Terrifically insightful video, thank you for sharing your knowledge!

    • @QJamTracks
      @QJamTracks  5 років тому +1

      You're very welcome Johnny! :)

  • @DG5466
    @DG5466 2 роки тому

    Brilliant video the best on you tube. You have clarified the issues I had with my progressions gravitating back to the parent key tonal centre. You are a star

  • @SomeDumUsrName
    @SomeDumUsrName 3 роки тому +2

    FINALLY ......clarity! :-) Thank you.

  • @GaetanAsselberghs
    @GaetanAsselberghs 2 роки тому

    And again a excellent video. Thank you so much!

  • @jonanavarro89
    @jonanavarro89 Рік тому

    Very clear and well explained tutorial about modal harmony. One of the best I have seen. Thanks.

  • @masterbuilder3166
    @masterbuilder3166 Рік тому

    Fantastic lesson, much appreciated. 💯🎸

  • @SpyneMetal
    @SpyneMetal Рік тому

    Excellent video! Thanks.

  • @WilliamSaadGuitar
    @WilliamSaadGuitar Рік тому

    Excellent! Thank you for sharing.

  • @CristianCifuentes61
    @CristianCifuentes61 2 роки тому

    So much valuable information. Thank you so much for sharing this