Touge Special Battle!! Drift King AE86 vs. All Japan Rally 86 【Best MOTORing】 2012
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- Touge Special Battle!! Drift King AE86 vs. All Japan Rally 86 【Best MOTORing】 2012
This is recorded on Hot-Version VOL.119. How are the potentials of the tuning cars fighting on "Touge Fastest Legend (峠最強伝説)"? The machine coming from the competition to know that, which is All Japan Rally Machine, is now able to fight with tuning cars!
ENTRY CAR
Drift King AE86 Toyota 86 All Japan Rally version
シーサー Impreza Impreza All Japan Rally version
DRIVER
土屋圭市 / Keiichi Tsuchiya 織戸学 / MAX Orido 谷口信輝 / Nobuteru Taniguchi
GUEST 勝田範彦 Noriqhiko Katsuta
STAGE 群馬サイクルスポーツセンター / GUNSAI (Gunma cycle sports center)
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When the DK's AE86 loses in the corners... but wins on the straights! Hey, I saw the once... in Initial D...
He gains in the corners and is slower in the straights in the anime. In real life this seems accurate. 😂
The race with the cappuccino
The last race in the series between Takumi’s Trueno hatch and Shinji’s Trueno coupe.
@@Redneck_Technophile Where can I find this episode? I watched Initial D but never found this episode anywhere.
@@kedrif3106 that's initial D final stage
I'll say this. Japanese know their cars well and are humble doing so.
圭一さんのドライビングはやはり凄すぎ。
Tsuchiya was on fucking fire that second run!!! Simply amazing!!!
タマキンで笑いすぎましたw
Now this is worth watching
魂の走りがもう圧巻w
Love it!
So... Fujiwara really exist?
新86外から見ると流してるみたいで全然速くなさそうな走りしてるのに速いってことはそれだけ安定してるんだな
1:07 I love how Tsuchiya-san doesn't like his AE86 to be called old
Most languages have different words for kinds of time passage effects.
I think in English you could say aged or expired for wines, for example.
So he gets mad when people say his AE86 is "expiring"
maybe "outdated" is the right word
@@Adiarby13 yeah i think it means "outdated" which tsuchiya couldnt stand it.
he can't tolerate insults to an AE86 :)
well my mom is also 40 years old and she doesn't like to be called old.
That second run by Keiichi was really impresive!
Both looked legendary
Akira Ferrari yeah you could really see him take advantage of his 86’s suspension setup a lot more than he did the first run, he more or less knew he had the power advantage and cut into corners a lot more to increase his speed out its apparent when seen from the Rally’s 86 for a split second you could see AE86 cut hard into the corner and was already on the power midway through
土屋さんはネットとかだとやいやい言われがちだけど心底楽しそうにこういう企画してるのはうらやましい限り
AE86 vs トヨタ86
チューンドカー vs ラリーカー
レーシングドライバー vs ラリードライバー
そして
ドリキン vs タマキン
The last run with KT leading was AMAZING... He still has what it takes to keep the AE86 managed at 110%... And on the pavement. Not a whole lot of drivers are capable of this sort of thing on this dangerous, no-escape zone environment, and in his own prized car too. WOW
I LOVE how DK had something to prove here and really synchronized with his ae86.
Shangpoos Amazing life thats what they call “Tsuchiya Zone”
Wow that gt86 is easily the most touge competent rally car that they've brought to a touge battle and Tsuchiya's ae86 just didn't have the pace to keep up with it's corner entry and at corner exit the ae86 was having trouble putting power down at the cornering speeds required to catch up. But god damn, Tsuchiya was absolutely on it on his last run, he went all out from the start and with pure skill managed to regain that winning gap. That was the master in his element, the rally driver was lucky to get a front row seat to that haha
not really a corolla... or 33 y/o anymore. Both cars are their shell + a lot of extras put together. At least the new 86 has the original motor still in
A little late but I'd like to add something. Isn't the corolla and sprinter different cars? I mean an 85 is the corolla while the sprinter is the 86. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Invictus Kahn You're thinking about this too hard.
you are wrong. The name AE-86 has the following meaning. A is for A-engine the family of the engine 86 uses. E means Corolla. 8 means it is the 8th generation and 6 is the variation between the E80 corolla series. hachiroku comes in 2 variants Corolla Levin and Sprinter Trueno with the only difference being in the headlights. Both are 86s
True. He is the master.
久しぶりにアドレナリン出マクってるドリキンを見た
Tsuchiya is literally takumi lmao:oldest car but still extremely competitive, wins against all odds, montrous drift+superior cornering skill.
Correct me if i’m wrong but takumi was based off of tsuchiya right
malachi barnes no he was not but was actually based off of real characters! very interesting stuff tnough
iirc there was a phone call to Bunta right before the race with Ryosuke, the other side was Tsuchiya
more like takumi's father
Actually Initial D characters are based on real life people like Ryosuke is based on some guy that Keichii knows which was also retired.
It's not based on him, but he was an executive consultant on the first series. He's the one you can thank for it GENERALLY being technically accurate as far as driving theory and mechanics, unlike dumbed down car culture money makers like fast and the furious
What a great battle of generations! It's awesome to see that the AE86 is still so competitive!
Wei Xian Ng it's not like its stock vs stock lol they are both equally modded for grip
yet the new 86 seemed to be more grippy than the classic, much more tendency to drift
new was stripped on semi-slicks, Tsuchiya's 86 was nearly full weight with rear seats and all.
Tires weren't as good either on Tsuchiya's 86
That's because it is so pure! pure driving!
Almost 2017.If it is really the official channel. You should consider finding someone to add subtitles to your videos.
I am already doing it for a French channel about motorcycles.
The budget for this is small and the impact on non speaking japanese would be enormous.
123kant1 they fucking listened lol thanks
the truth is the majority of the world speaks English in one form or another.
ah surprisingly english (5.5% of world population are native speaker ) is not the most used language in the world... it is the third after Chinese (14.1%) and Spanish(5.8%). tho i would have to agree more would have an least snippets of knowledge in english. regardless of whether are they even able to use it. so while english is the most common foreign language it is majority does not speak english. Most would have use they native tongue over english in most situations
There are subs. You blind?
@@weir-t7y idiot
勝田氏はまだ全力じゃない気がします。(まだ理性が残ってる)
何か人と車以上の関係を感じた気がする
I love watching Tsuchiya drive, but... I think love to watch him drive more when gets into his racers mind. He rarely does it so when he does, it's like a breath of fresh air.
土屋圭市さんのバトルテクニックすごいさすがドリドリドリキン
This is the hardest I've ever seen the drift king drive his 86. That second battle. He doesn't say a word cause he is so focus and it shows. The ole 86 shows it's still not to be messed with on the touge.
that moment they decide not to do sudden death for risk of crashing goes to show just how competitive they are. smart too.
absolutely love the [fun] vibe in these program & drivers
Wow. When keiichi was on the second round it was really impressive. Did u guys see how he drifted?
it was amazing :O
土屋さんの見切りの見事さ、サドンデスを止めたところなんか、経験の深さ、高さ、
ヒゲタコウイチ 勝田さんはずいぶん余裕あったけどねwあんな危なっかしい車乗ってたら危険なのは当たり前ですよ、危ないのは車のせい
ヒゲタコウイチ 負けるからだよ
そもそもSタイヤはインチキだしねｗ
11:47 That corner
The more I watch it the more impressed I am.
How close he cuts it and the timing of his acceleration is really pleasant to watch.
see he used the ditch right there
I love this series so much I love Cars and the Japanese have such a respect for motoring and not to mention I laugh the whole
Time.. this shit is so funny
What people seem to forget about rally cars is that they have to obey strict engine and chassis regulations. Put a heavy roll-cage and stock motor on the AE86 like the GT86 has and you would see the AE86 lose by a ton. When it comes to turbo cars, rally cars have intake restrictors to limit the amount of air coming in the engine, of course they gonna lose vs tuned RX7s or S2000s, let alone if they are forced to compete in gravel setup like the Mitsubishi was.
I love how you can see him breaking away when he drifts the corner at 15:26! Watch, 15:22, he's on his tail, then the next corner, Taku....I mean Tsuchiya, drifts and pulls ahead when the other guy is braking!
At 15:22 the ae86 slided lil bit and recover like nothing happened
さすがラリーカー、まるで公道の峠道をドライブしてるかのようなステアリングの動きだな
この企画めっちゃ見たかった！嬉しい！
Damn the AE86 being such an old car is so amazing to see that it's still so competitive even now. I need one!
26 years of development. keep that in mind XD
Just found this channel, I missed those guys so much. Instant subscribe.
If the ae86 is keeping up with the gt86
What have toyota been doing all these years xD
A lot of priuses, yarises and other subpar cars...
The gt86 is made to be fun to drive, not fast. Just like the old ae86.
Carlos Rios amazing paraphrase
they gained weight.
downhill is more of weight and balance distribution than horse power explosion.
if only gt86 is as light as ae86, it would be awesome.
You have to remember that it's Drift King's AE86
its crazy to think he eventually got it in the 25 second range. The absolute pinnacle of a corolla street car.
It's a shame we didn't see the Lancer WRC in the Touge with proper Tarmac setup.
Best Car related show ever!
Thank you Best MOTORing for the subtitles
Since I played Gran Turismo 1, 2 and 3 growing up, this show is awesome. I always enjoyed the Japanese cars.
俺の親父が初めて乗った車がAE86だから俺も初めて乗る車は新型86って決めてんだ＼(^o^)／
いい話や。
すばらしい
その意気やよし！がんばれ！
そういう話すこ
すごいロマンある話
初めてのコース
初めての車
ノーマルエンジン
これで一発でそこそこのタイムを出してくる辺りワークスだよねぇ・・・
っていうか土屋86は車高下げすぎでストローク確保できてないだけなんじゃないの？
いくらなんでもあんなに跳ねるのがおかしいでしょ
ひたすらSタイヤSタイヤ連呼しているけどAE86は300㌔も軽いんだよ・・・
WRCランサーにグラベル仕様グラベルタイヤなんて常軌を逸したハンデを付けておいて
今回はSタイヤはズルイとか言っちゃダメでしょ
２本目の土屋さんの忙しい走り
好きだなぁ...
土屋さんにはわるけど。いい勝負するとは思わなかったｗ
“I could crash for the speed” hahahaha so intense!
AE86と言えばドリキン86号ですよね！！
豆号86を侮辱をしてはいけません。😇
srsly man, if i wanted to make an advertisement for a car i would just tell keiichi to drive it a bit in front of my cam and BAM, everyone knew what the car is about
The car should be good in the first place
走ってる人ならわかると思うけど昔の86うまい人乗るとまじで早いんだよね。あのクイックな動きと言いとても3.40年前の車とは思えないし。下手なターボ車よりも早い。よくこんなこと言うと頭文字D厨とか言われるけど本当に早いんだよね。
ああああ このAE86ならって感じですね。本人も本体25万改造費500万以上かけてるらしいです
nagoya-kurumakaitori.com/blog/ae86-tutiya/
マジでタイトコーナー多いとこは、シビックと86は別格ではやいっすよね笑
早いの？速いじゃなくて？
どっちのハチロクも好きや
ハチロクvs86
ですね
ラリー屋はまだまだ余裕ある走りやな（笑）
AE86ってなかなか不思議な車だよね。
非力で足回りも軽トラみたいなのに人気すごいし、意外と速くなるし。
そりゃあ某豆腐店の親父が乗り手を育てるって言うくらいなんだからねぇ
@@みちょーり42 良くも悪くも素直ってことなのかな？
これは玉金が力抜いてるって感じだな。それだけ個体差を土屋がムキになって腕でカバーしてる感じ。恐らく織戸か谷口が、玉金車両乗ったら勝てない
新86はハンドル操作が滑らかですね。今の車という感じがします。
KIMORI123 lol
KIMORI123 確かにAE86は修正舵多いですしね
もしかして:パワステ？
足の完成度の違いだよ
昔の86なんてステアリング操作クソ早くしないとすぐ突っ込みますもんね（笑）
コーナーで負けて、ストレートで勝つハチロク。
頭文字Dじゃんw
13:20 what you came here for.
Daaamn drift king is such a fun guy!! 😁😁😁
And the hosts just bash him funny... But his skill is still No Joke!!! All hail to the drift King!!
二本目の土屋さん本気すぎる！
11:48.... He just did the secret storm drain move.
Nice Eye :)
やっぱりAE86はドリドリだな‼
Rewatching all the old stuff!!!!2020!
ギリギリだなぁ～！ae86Σ(゜Д゜)確かに タイヤのレベルが 同じなら 互角だと 思う！
ヤサグレココモ lol
omg, I laughed so hard when they say the seats are more expensive than the car lmao
息子さんのラリージャパン表彰台見ました。
おめでとうございます
Amazing that Katsuta Jr. is in the WRC top level now !
didn't the green tracksuit guy appeared in fast&furious tokyio drift??
Yep.He is Keichi Tsuchiya also known as the Drift king
土屋圭市さん、６０越えだけど、若いねぇ。
Is this where MAME86 originated from? 😂 because of Orido? hahaha
豆号のOPでの扱いとか、ドリキンとオリダーとノブさんの絡みはいつ見ても安定して面白い。
I think it's not fair if GT86 use S tire
The GT had S tires, but the AE had a highly tuned engine with significant parts upgrades. GT engine was stock. Which is more unfair, not running a street tire, or not running a stock engine? It was a fair race, I think.
Thank you to whomever it may concern for adding subtitles
If tires were the same hachiroku would be a second away probably
プロ同士、遠慮無しw辛辣な言葉掛けが好き。お疲れドリキン
勝田さんの息子さんがGAZOOレーシングの育成プログラムでフィンランドに行ってるんでしたっけ？ラリー界のサラブレッドだなぁ～
Gr.B車で走ってみて欲しいとバカなことを想像してしまった…
star win.truth 今の現役のWRCドライバーでも危険だから試乗させないケースが多い
86持ってました、遊ぶのに持ってこい『勝手にコーナードリフト』してくれます♪アクセル踏めばドリフト～♪アクセル離せば、勝手にドリフトだぁー♪金無かった頃に間に合わせで買った。
Toyota should totally remake the original 86 model, even if the engine is different.
ただただ土屋さんバケモノすぎる😇
車は完璧でもハイグリップタイヤで、純正を生かした車の限界だね。
86は完璧な車+Sタイヤ+GTウイングだから仕方ない。
ランサーWRCはグラベル仕様での対決だったのでターマック仕様での再戦しなきゃストリートマシン最速なんて言ってたら恥です。
THE GUY in the green overrol is the One from the Movie FAF Tokyo drift, in the scene how they drift With the red Mitsubishi Evolution and the green Driver sit and Fishing and say he dont can drift in the Movie!!!!👍🏼😉👌🏼
やっぱり今の車よりAE86やシルビアの時代の車の方がカッコいいな。昔の車をもう一度作って欲しいな。
さきそう
そうか？名前はともかくまったく別の車だし現行86は2ドアクーペだからスタイリングや性能からして現行86の方が良いしかっこいいと思うよ。懐古厨なら仕方ないか
さきそう FDとかならまた作ってあるよ
うさぎ山彦三郎 どんな車が好きか嫌いかなんて人それぞれだと思うよ(´・ω・｀)
昔のボディー形状だろ現代の安全性テストをクリアできないので無理ですね
デザインだけは、ちょっと前の車の方がいいな
性能や中身は最新で、デザインだけ一昔前のシンプルなものにして欲しいくらい
まめ号ほんといい音する
Bro almost lost a new gen track car with soft tires to an 80's car with semi tires. wtf
15:27 This is the reason I watch this, so intense!!!
It's also so much more enjoyable with the subtitles now, thanks!
2:43タマキンにしか聞こえんな。
おいwそのコメ見たらほんとにタマキンにしか聞こえなくなったやんけww
んンーキ○タマ
Can anyone please explain to me, what do they mean by "S tires"? How does it compare to other tires that other cars are running?
なんでラックのペダルワークカメラずれてんの？
I think this was the best Touge Battle I've seen on this show. Dori Dori had to take it to the next level and for a lap we had the opportunity to witness the legend himself driving at 100%!!!!
AE86が200馬力も出ててマシンも群サイも走り慣れてて、むしろSタイヤ履いたところでエンジンノーマルで数百キロ重い新86が勝てるわけないわな
左足でブレーキとかすげーな
右足ブレーキの凄さ知らねー湾岸キッズや、イニＤキッズは、オレ出来るしアピールが凄いんだろうなー。
ラリーストの人たぶん全然本気じゃないと思います。
矢吹丈一 いや本気じゃね？いうてドリキン号34に勝ってるからね笑
2レース目は本気じゃないですね。まあ空気読んだってことで。
言い訳乙ですね。
結果がすべてですよ。
This tells you that modern suspension design & geometry is much better than 30 years ago, especially with those Mcpherson & independant rear suspensions. FRS or BRZ wider body helps & lower center engine too. Amazing comparaison.
土屋さん
男が男に
惚れる男。。。
え〰️男って
こんな男なんだね(´・ω・｀)
自転車のテストで何度か走ったけど車のタイヤ痕がたくさんあるのはこういう事だったのねＷ
グランツーリスモ6で全日本ラリー86買った！