Most languages have different words for kinds of time passage effects. I think in English you could say aged or expired for wines, for example. So he gets mad when people say his AE86 is "expiring"
Akira Ferrari yeah you could really see him take advantage of his 86’s suspension setup a lot more than he did the first run, he more or less knew he had the power advantage and cut into corners a lot more to increase his speed out its apparent when seen from the Rally’s 86 for a split second you could see AE86 cut hard into the corner and was already on the power midway through
The last run with KT leading was AMAZING... He still has what it takes to keep the AE86 managed at 110%... And on the pavement. Not a whole lot of drivers are capable of this sort of thing on this dangerous, no-escape zone environment, and in his own prized car too. WOW
Wow that gt86 is easily the most touge competent rally car that they've brought to a touge battle and Tsuchiya's ae86 just didn't have the pace to keep up with it's corner entry and at corner exit the ae86 was having trouble putting power down at the cornering speeds required to catch up. But god damn, Tsuchiya was absolutely on it on his last run, he went all out from the start and with pure skill managed to regain that winning gap. That was the master in his element, the rally driver was lucky to get a front row seat to that haha
not really a corolla... or 33 y/o anymore. Both cars are their shell + a lot of extras put together. At least the new 86 has the original motor still in
A little late but I'd like to add something. Isn't the corolla and sprinter different cars? I mean an 85 is the corolla while the sprinter is the 86. Correct me if I'm wrong.
you are wrong. The name AE-86 has the following meaning. A is for A-engine the family of the engine 86 uses. E means Corolla. 8 means it is the 8th generation and 6 is the variation between the E80 corolla series. hachiroku comes in 2 variants Corolla Levin and Sprinter Trueno with the only difference being in the headlights. Both are 86s
I love watching Tsuchiya drive, but... I think love to watch him drive more when gets into his racers mind. He rarely does it so when he does, it's like a breath of fresh air.
This is the hardest I've ever seen the drift king drive his 86. That second battle. He doesn't say a word cause he is so focus and it shows. The ole 86 shows it's still not to be messed with on the touge.
Tsuchiya is literally takumi lmao:oldest car but still extremely competitive, wins against all odds, montrous drift+superior cornering skill. Correct me if i’m wrong but takumi was based off of tsuchiya right
It's not based on him, but he was an executive consultant on the first series. He's the one you can thank for it GENERALLY being technically accurate as far as driving theory and mechanics, unlike dumbed down car culture money makers like fast and the furious
Almost 2017.If it is really the official channel. You should consider finding someone to add subtitles to your videos. I am already doing it for a French channel about motorcycles. The budget for this is small and the impact on non speaking japanese would be enormous.
ah surprisingly english (5.5% of world population are native speaker ) is not the most used language in the world... it is the third after Chinese (14.1%) and Spanish(5.8%). tho i would have to agree more would have an least snippets of knowledge in english. regardless of whether are they even able to use it. so while english is the most common foreign language it is majority does not speak english. Most would have use they native tongue over english in most situations
I love how you can see him breaking away when he drifts the corner at 15:26! Watch, 15:22, he's on his tail, then the next corner, Taku....I mean Tsuchiya, drifts and pulls ahead when the other guy is braking!
I think this was the best Touge Battle I've seen on this show. Dori Dori had to take it to the next level and for a lap we had the opportunity to witness the legend himself driving at 100%!!!!
What people seem to forget about rally cars is that they have to obey strict engine and chassis regulations. Put a heavy roll-cage and stock motor on the AE86 like the GT86 has and you would see the AE86 lose by a ton. When it comes to turbo cars, rally cars have intake restrictors to limit the amount of air coming in the engine, of course they gonna lose vs tuned RX7s or S2000s, let alone if they are forced to compete in gravel setup like the Mitsubishi was.
I love this series so much I love Cars and the Japanese have such a respect for motoring and not to mention I laugh the whole Time.. this shit is so funny
This tells you that modern suspension design & geometry is much better than 30 years ago, especially with those Mcpherson & independant rear suspensions. FRS or BRZ wider body helps & lower center engine too. Amazing comparaison.
srsly man, if i wanted to make an advertisement for a car i would just tell keiichi to drive it a bit in front of my cam and BAM, everyone knew what the car is about
they gained weight. downhill is more of weight and balance distribution than horse power explosion. if only gt86 is as light as ae86, it would be awesome.
rally drivers are not to be messed with. like Tommie makinen. ae86 was already reaching its limitations. it was all pure driver skills and balls of steel
the second run in the ae86 was dangerous, he was drifting the corner in hope to be faster by any chance, he was so close to end in the green, thats impressiv and risky
That old AE86 probably has thirty thousand dollars in upgrades done to it. The rally car has to use a stock engine block for class competition purposes. Not saying an AE86 can't be fast, just that it looks so much faster in this video because Drift King has got forged internals, crazy header and exhaust pipes, etc. Not to mention, if both cars were stock, the AE86 would be a couple hundred pounds lighter. As they sit, I imagine the rally car is 50-100 lbs heavier than a stock GT86 because of the roll cage. Big weight difference.
THE GUY in the green overrol is the One from the Movie FAF Tokyo drift, in the scene how they drift With the red Mitsubishi Evolution and the green Driver sit and Fishing and say he dont can drift in the Movie!!!!👍🏼😉👌🏼
The old one is not stock, it's heavily modified - not the original engine at all. The new one is created as an intentional call-back to everything loved about the balance of the old one. It took 'em 30 years to conclude they loved the car enough to try it again. Both are awesome cars.
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When the DK's AE86 loses in the corners... but wins on the straights! Hey, I saw the once... in Initial D...
He gains in the corners and is slower in the straights in the anime. In real life this seems accurate. 😂
The race with the cappuccino
The last race in the series between Takumi’s Trueno hatch and Shinji’s Trueno coupe.
@@Redneck_Technophile Where can I find this episode? I watched Initial D but never found this episode anywhere.
@@kedrif3106 that's initial D final stage
1:07 I love how Tsuchiya-san doesn't like his AE86 to be called old
Most languages have different words for kinds of time passage effects.
I think in English you could say aged or expired for wines, for example.
So he gets mad when people say his AE86 is "expiring"
maybe "outdated" is the right word
@@Adiarby13 yeah i think it means "outdated" which tsuchiya couldnt stand it.
he can't tolerate insults to an AE86 :)
well my mom is also 40 years old and she doesn't like to be called old.
新86外から見ると流してるみたいで全然速くなさそうな走りしてるのに速いってことはそれだけ安定してるんだな
土屋さんはネットとかだとやいやい言われがちだけど心底楽しそうにこういう企画してるのはうらやましい限り
That second run by Keiichi was really impresive!
Both looked legendary
Akira Ferrari yeah you could really see him take advantage of his 86’s suspension setup a lot more than he did the first run, he more or less knew he had the power advantage and cut into corners a lot more to increase his speed out its apparent when seen from the Rally’s 86 for a split second you could see AE86 cut hard into the corner and was already on the power midway through
The last run with KT leading was AMAZING... He still has what it takes to keep the AE86 managed at 110%... And on the pavement. Not a whole lot of drivers are capable of this sort of thing on this dangerous, no-escape zone environment, and in his own prized car too. WOW
AE86 vs トヨタ86
チューンドカー vs ラリーカー
レーシングドライバー vs ラリードライバー
そして
ドリキン vs タマキン
I LOVE how DK had something to prove here and really synchronized with his ae86.
Shangpoos Amazing life thats what they call “Tsuchiya Zone”
I'll say this. Japanese know their cars well and are humble doing so.
Wow that gt86 is easily the most touge competent rally car that they've brought to a touge battle and Tsuchiya's ae86 just didn't have the pace to keep up with it's corner entry and at corner exit the ae86 was having trouble putting power down at the cornering speeds required to catch up. But god damn, Tsuchiya was absolutely on it on his last run, he went all out from the start and with pure skill managed to regain that winning gap. That was the master in his element, the rally driver was lucky to get a front row seat to that haha
not really a corolla... or 33 y/o anymore. Both cars are their shell + a lot of extras put together. At least the new 86 has the original motor still in
A little late but I'd like to add something. Isn't the corolla and sprinter different cars? I mean an 85 is the corolla while the sprinter is the 86. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Invictus Kahn You're thinking about this too hard.
you are wrong. The name AE-86 has the following meaning. A is for A-engine the family of the engine 86 uses. E means Corolla. 8 means it is the 8th generation and 6 is the variation between the E80 corolla series. hachiroku comes in 2 variants Corolla Levin and Sprinter Trueno with the only difference being in the headlights. Both are 86s
True. He is the master.
I love watching Tsuchiya drive, but... I think love to watch him drive more when gets into his racers mind. He rarely does it so when he does, it's like a breath of fresh air.
11:47 That corner
The more I watch it the more impressed I am.
How close he cuts it and the timing of his acceleration is really pleasant to watch.
see he used the ditch right there
This is the hardest I've ever seen the drift king drive his 86. That second battle. He doesn't say a word cause he is so focus and it shows. The ole 86 shows it's still not to be messed with on the touge.
What a great battle of generations! It's awesome to see that the AE86 is still so competitive!
Wei Xian Ng it's not like its stock vs stock lol they are both equally modded for grip
yet the new 86 seemed to be more grippy than the classic, much more tendency to drift
new was stripped on semi-slicks, Tsuchiya's 86 was nearly full weight with rear seats and all.
Tires weren't as good either on Tsuchiya's 86
That's because it is so pure! pure driving!
Tsuchiya is literally takumi lmao:oldest car but still extremely competitive, wins against all odds, montrous drift+superior cornering skill.
Correct me if i’m wrong but takumi was based off of tsuchiya right
malachi barnes no he was not but was actually based off of real characters! very interesting stuff tnough
iirc there was a phone call to Bunta right before the race with Ryosuke, the other side was Tsuchiya
more like takumi's father
Actually Initial D characters are based on real life people like Ryosuke is based on some guy that Keichii knows which was also retired.
It's not based on him, but he was an executive consultant on the first series. He's the one you can thank for it GENERALLY being technically accurate as far as driving theory and mechanics, unlike dumbed down car culture money makers like fast and the furious
its crazy to think he eventually got it in the 25 second range. The absolute pinnacle of a corolla street car.
that moment they decide not to do sudden death for risk of crashing goes to show just how competitive they are. smart too.
土屋さんの見切りの見事さ、サドンデスを止めたところなんか、経験の深さ、高さ、
ヒゲタコウイチ 勝田さんはずいぶん余裕あったけどねwあんな危なっかしい車乗ってたら危険なのは当たり前ですよ、危ないのは車のせい
ヒゲタコウイチ 負けるからだよ
そもそもSタイヤはインチキだしねｗ
Best Car related show ever!
Thank you Best MOTORing for the subtitles
Since I played Gran Turismo 1, 2 and 3 growing up, this show is awesome. I always enjoyed the Japanese cars.
土屋圭市さんのバトルテクニックすごいさすがドリドリドリキン
この企画めっちゃ見たかった！嬉しい！
AE86ってなかなか不思議な車だよね。
非力で足回りも軽トラみたいなのに人気すごいし、意外と速くなるし。
そりゃあ某豆腐店の親父が乗り手を育てるって言うくらいなんだからねぇ
@@みちょーり42 良くも悪くも素直ってことなのかな？
Almost 2017.If it is really the official channel. You should consider finding someone to add subtitles to your videos.
I am already doing it for a French channel about motorcycles.
The budget for this is small and the impact on non speaking japanese would be enormous.
123kant1 they fucking listened lol thanks
the truth is the majority of the world speaks English in one form or another.
ah surprisingly english (5.5% of world population are native speaker ) is not the most used language in the world... it is the third after Chinese (14.1%) and Spanish(5.8%). tho i would have to agree more would have an least snippets of knowledge in english. regardless of whether are they even able to use it. so while english is the most common foreign language it is majority does not speak english. Most would have use they native tongue over english in most situations
There are subs. You blind?
@@weir-t7y idiot
I love how you can see him breaking away when he drifts the corner at 15:26! Watch, 15:22, he's on his tail, then the next corner, Taku....I mean Tsuchiya, drifts and pulls ahead when the other guy is braking!
At 15:22 the ae86 slided lil bit and recover like nothing happened
absolutely love the [fun] vibe in these program & drivers
さすがラリーカー、まるで公道の峠道をドライブしてるかのようなステアリングの動きだな
Damn the AE86 being such an old car is so amazing to see that it's still so competitive even now. I need one!
26 years of development. keep that in mind XD
Wow. When keiichi was on the second round it was really impressive. Did u guys see how he drifted?
it was amazing :O
Just found this channel, I missed those guys so much. Instant subscribe.
It's a shame we didn't see the Lancer WRC in the Touge with proper Tarmac setup.
２本目の土屋さんの忙しい走り
好きだなぁ...
I think this was the best Touge Battle I've seen on this show. Dori Dori had to take it to the next level and for a lap we had the opportunity to witness the legend himself driving at 100%!!!!
What people seem to forget about rally cars is that they have to obey strict engine and chassis regulations. Put a heavy roll-cage and stock motor on the AE86 like the GT86 has and you would see the AE86 lose by a ton. When it comes to turbo cars, rally cars have intake restrictors to limit the amount of air coming in the engine, of course they gonna lose vs tuned RX7s or S2000s, let alone if they are forced to compete in gravel setup like the Mitsubishi was.
Amazing that Katsuta Jr. is in the WRC top level now !
何か人と車以上の関係を感じた気がする
Thank you to whomever it may concern for adding subtitles
I feel like DK gets to always win. Even when he loses, he’ll cut corners like crazy.
he didn't cut?
ただただ土屋さんバケモノすぎる😇
So much better with the subtitles! Love the videos.
I love this series so much I love Cars and the Japanese have such a respect for motoring and not to mention I laugh the whole
Time.. this shit is so funny
走ってる人ならわかると思うけど昔の86うまい人乗るとまじで早いんだよね。あのクイックな動きと言いとても3.40年前の車とは思えないし。下手なターボ車よりも早い。よくこんなこと言うと頭文字D厨とか言われるけど本当に早いんだよね。
ああああ このAE86ならって感じですね。本人も本体25万改造費500万以上かけてるらしいです
nagoya-kurumakaitori.com/blog/ae86-tutiya/
マジでタイトコーナー多いとこは、シビックと86は別格ではやいっすよね笑
早いの？速いじゃなくて？
Rewatching all the old stuff!!!!2020!
豆号のOPでの扱いとか、ドリキンとオリダーとノブさんの絡みはいつ見ても安定して面白い。
やっぱり今の車よりAE86やシルビアの時代の車の方がカッコいいな。昔の車をもう一度作って欲しいな。
さきそう
そうか？名前はともかくまったく別の車だし現行86は2ドアクーペだからスタイリングや性能からして現行86の方が良いしかっこいいと思うよ。懐古厨なら仕方ないか
さきそう FDとかならまた作ってあるよ
うさぎ山彦三郎 どんな車が好きか嫌いかなんて人それぞれだと思うよ(´・ω・｀)
昔のボディー形状だろ現代の安全性テストをクリアできないので無理ですね
デザインだけは、ちょっと前の車の方がいいな
性能や中身は最新で、デザインだけ一昔前のシンプルなものにして欲しいくらい
Thanks for adding subtitles
This tells you that modern suspension design & geometry is much better than 30 years ago, especially with those Mcpherson & independant rear suspensions. FRS or BRZ wider body helps & lower center engine too. Amazing comparaison.
勝田氏はまだ全力じゃない気がします。(まだ理性が残ってる)
please upgrade the video quality. it was such a great video that you guys made
11:48.... He just did the secret storm drain move.
Nice Eye :)
息子さんのラリージャパン表彰台見ました。
おめでとうございます
12:38がかっこよすぎる…
srsly man, if i wanted to make an advertisement for a car i would just tell keiichi to drive it a bit in front of my cam and BAM, everyone knew what the car is about
The car should be good in the first place
A rally driver without a co-driver is like a pilot flying blindly
If the ae86 is keeping up with the gt86
What have toyota been doing all these years xD
A lot of priuses, yarises and other subpar cars...
The gt86 is made to be fun to drive, not fast. Just like the old ae86.
Carlos Rios amazing paraphrase
they gained weight.
downhill is more of weight and balance distribution than horse power explosion.
if only gt86 is as light as ae86, it would be awesome.
You have to remember that it's Drift King's AE86
圭一さんのドライビングはやはり凄すぎ。
86持ってました、遊ぶのに持ってこい『勝手にコーナードリフト』してくれます♪アクセル踏めばドリフト～♪アクセル離せば、勝手にドリフトだぁー♪金無かった頃に間に合わせで買った。
Whoever did the caption, thank you...
まめ号ほんといい音する
久しぶりにアドレナリン出マクってるドリキンを見た
二本目の土屋さん本気すぎる！
The 86 is the only car DK truly trusts to slide in the gunsai
旧式のおんぼろ(ピカピカフルカスタムだけど)が現行車ベースと普通に戦えるってのも車の面白い所だよな
土屋さんのAE86（通称マメ）はこの頃でR35の新車買える値段並みにリビルドと改造が施されてたとかで・・・もうAE86は外見だけしかない中身は完全チューナーの趣味のようなモノですから。一般のユーザーを考えてたチューンではなく既に土屋さん専用AE86だから一般人には何も出来ないレベル。大人しくFT86の最高グレードかGRバージョン買ってしまうほうが維持しやすいんじゃないか？って思ってしまいます。後20～30年もすれば完全電気稼働自動車に移行していく世界情勢の流れもあり今しか見れなくなるっていうのが強くなりましたが・・・軍用や途上国では困難でしょうがこういうエンジン音も消えていくのも少し寂しいですね。
Very entertaining video. Thanks.
“I could crash for the speed” hahahaha so intense!
rally drivers are not to be messed with. like Tommie makinen. ae86 was already reaching its limitations. it was all pure driver skills and balls of steel
プロ同士、遠慮無しw辛辣な言葉掛けが好き。お疲れドリキン
That was simply awesome... Thank you to all involved.. that was special...
That second Lap omg it was crazy he went full focused racing driver
Tsuchiyas driving on that second lap of the battle is the kind of driving I aspire to do🙏🏼
Merci beaucoup pour les sub fr 😍
Toyota should totally remake the original 86 model, even if the engine is different.
やっぱりAE86はドリドリだな‼
the second run in the ae86 was dangerous, he was drifting the corner in hope to be faster by any chance, he was so close to end in the green, thats impressiv and risky
Thats why he be call drift king..
どっちのハチロクも好きや
13:20 what you came here for.
Daaamn drift king is such a fun guy!! 😁😁😁
And the hosts just bash him funny... But his skill is still No Joke!!! All hail to the drift King!!
Merci! De la part de la communauté francophone à travers le monde!
Oh I wish there was a full available video of Katsuta's interior cam chaising DK.
20 yo, smaller tires, carb and still competitive as the new 86.ae86 ftw!!
土屋さんにはわるけど。いい勝負するとは思わなかったｗ
２本目見てぶっ飛んだぜ！ あの勝田選手もが驚いているね。
The Rally Driver really used Fujiwara zone
AE86と言えばドリキン86号ですよね！！
Excellent avec les sous-titres en français merci
That was an amazing battle!
I love the sound of the old 86. And it is really fast.
That old AE86 probably has thirty thousand dollars in upgrades done to it. The rally car has to use a stock engine block for class competition purposes. Not saying an AE86 can't be fast, just that it looks so much faster in this video because Drift King has got forged internals, crazy header and exhaust pipes, etc. Not to mention, if both cars were stock, the AE86 would be a couple hundred pounds lighter. As they sit, I imagine the rally car is 50-100 lbs heavier than a stock GT86 because of the roll cage. Big weight difference.
Great battle!!
THE GUY in the green overrol is the One from the Movie FAF Tokyo drift, in the scene how they drift With the red Mitsubishi Evolution and the green Driver sit and Fishing and say he dont can drift in the Movie!!!!👍🏼😉👌🏼
didn't the green tracksuit guy appeared in fast&furious tokyio drift??
Yep.He is Keichi Tsuchiya also known as the Drift king
15:52 He has gone full 𝙏𝙨𝙪𝙘𝙝𝙞𝙮𝙖 𝙕𝙤𝙣𝙚
takes a 30 years to make a new toyota 86 thats still slower then the old one
The old one is not stock, it's heavily modified - not the original engine at all. The new one is created as an intentional call-back to everything loved about the balance of the old one. It took 'em 30 years to conclude they loved the car enough to try it again.
Both are awesome cars.
ハチロクvs86
ですね
やっぱこの型のインプカッコいいなー！
俺の親父が初めて乗った車がAE86だから俺も初めて乗る車は新型86って決めてんだ＼(^o^)／
いい話や。
すばらしい
その意気やよし！がんばれ！
そういう話すこ
すごいロマンある話
9:19からリアバネ9kから7kに柔くしたドリキンAE86号。
11:06辺りでリアバネ7kから9kに変更かあ。。。
しなやかな7kは荒れたギャップをいなせるけどフィーリングとタイムが比例しない。
9kは跳ねる箇所もあるけどロールレートの固さによる横Gでのインリフト抑制でイン側の駆動力との総和が増してタイムに反映した。
ロールレートを荒れたギャップを吸収できる柔かさのショック減衰-バネ-スタビのままで、柔さ故のロールによるインリフトの総和駆動力の低下を抑えるとなるとワイドトレッド化に双方の矛盾を回避できる可能性があるかも。。。
ワイドトレッドにすると横Gでロールした時のテコの原理が変わって横転するみたいなアウト側の踏ん張りがまろやかになって、
滑り出しやお釣りもまろやかになって、イン側のタイヤが浮きづらくなって、
砂利や雪-水浸しとかになってないアスファルト舗装道路ならスライド操作対応しやすくなりイン側の駆動力も活かし易くなるとか。。。
ワイドトレッド化はロールレートを固めずにインリフトを抑える駆動力のセットアップの可能性があるみたいな。。。
ワイトレ+ロールレート柔目だと、ロールしやすさでのアウト側に荷重が掛かる働きはちゃんと残るが、ワイトレでのテコの原理自体の作用でアウト側の荷重は減り、それに対してワイトレでのインリフト抑制で両輪の駆動力の総和がどうなるか。。。
整備されたギャップの無いフラット路面なクローズドコースなのか、コースレイアウトの速度域やコーナー曲率に合わせたピッチング荷重域の回頭性の兼ね合い。
前後トレッドのバランス。
雨が降っても簡潔にちょっと味付け足掻きがしやすい余地とか。
先に決めるべき順序と優先順位。。。
豆がワイドに進化して鏡餅みたいになって、めでたい感じになるかもだけど、見た目ナローで速いのがドリキンのこだわりだった。。。
15:27 This is the reason I watch this, so intense!!!
It's also so much more enjoyable with the subtitles now, thanks!
The lack of left foot braking by Tsuchiya bothers me.
Merci beaucoup pour les sous titres en français
Love when DK drives like in the 2nd round