The standards that these ratings are based on are not documented, but after carefully examining all the Good/Bad ratings to date, I think the two worst Math Prop sins are "Not having a Math Prop" and "Holding an Abacus Upside down".
1984 is a 1498 woodcut by Albrecht Altdorfer, based on the 1949 novel 1984. Its inclusion of a TI-84 implies that Altdorfer may have been a timetraveller.
2:48 I find the assessment of the correct use of the props a bit too harsh. After entering the numbers, the operator seems to look at his papers. I think it is plausible that he wants to check his input before doing the calculation. We can't actually see what happens because the camera moves on and he disappears from the frame. The scene is too short to judge one or the other with certainty. Therefore, I would give it the benefit of the doubt and rate it as good. The fact that the other machines are not visibly used or even touched cannot be judged as incorrect use.
I WATCHED 1984 YESTERDAY AND SAW THIS AND WAS GOING TO NOMINATE IT. I think we've learned that if you prevaricate then someone else will do it for you and you needn't bother.
I give the 6 uses of the appropriately named and labeled ‘Math Props’ math props prop gag a 576 out of a possible 864. Giving it any better of a score would have been 2 gross. 😊 👍
I have what must be the most obscure math prop submission ever. I just went to the high school performance of A Comedy of Errors that my friend directed and one of the characters was carrying around an abacus
Although that unknown device does look a bit like a Summira/Resulta/Regina type of machine, I don’t see a register above or below the input area. I don’t even see one in the middle like the TriumphatorKA/LipsiaAddi. I suspect it could be some kind of checkwriter machine instead, maybe a Paymaster, with its lever removed.
🤔 I think I need a Math Props set of CURTA whiskey 🥃 glasses … or perhaps Vodka Glasses … there could be a crack on top to grind some pepper in. You know, to absorb the sludge. 😉 old Bond Novel reference.
There's a scene at the begining of Raiders of th lost Ark when Indy is being convinced to go and look for it. There is a formula written on the blackboard (in a history class no less) is this just gibberish or the meaning of life the universe and everything?
@@jacquesbowman1959 I found this: thebigblogtheory.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/s0704-the-raiders-minimization/ I’d say at a glance it looks like basic physics- whoever wrote it had to know a little something, or was copying from a legit source, then somehow messed it up either by mistake or to make it look cooler.
I’d like to make a suggestion. If animation is allowed I’d like to suggests the two scenes from the German Werner movies: ua-cam.com/video/Td5jxXhetyI/v-deo.html from 0:00 to 0:06 and ua-cam.com/video/wpoQvAqban8/v-deo.html Those movies are stories in a fictional town in Nothern Germany about an apprentice plumber who likes a beer and bikes named Werner. The main figure in these scenes is his boss Walther Röhrich who isn’t the smartest tool in the shed. It looks like he’s using a hand cranked pin wheel adding machine with a printer. Translation of the mathy parts: First video: One and four that’s … wait a bit … (The machine prints out 5). (The rest is just a call from the boss of the largest local building company from whom Röhrich desperatly wants to get a new contract but gets screwed over). Second video: That makes … in my head … In my head that’s … Ja, erm, 1 times 1 is … (machine prints out 1) wait! … One?! How’s that? Is the machine broken? That can’t be everything for a multiplication. In my brain I got more, at least 2. And 5 plus 5 is 10. Only so little? No, something has to be wrong here. (Werner and Röhrich greeting each other). … 2 in the mind …
Some crazy guy has an abacus gun in Kamen Rider Kuuga episode 45 and probably others. Thought you might like to know! It’s streaming on Tokushoutsu UA-cam channel
I think there's an adding machine in the new trailer for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (it's the trailer that starts at a prep school, I'll try to find a link when I'm out of the theater)
Yes! Very interesting- some machine like a comptometer around 1:33, and a paymaster checkwriter in the background. I'll have to check it out- looks like there are lots of old desktop props in that scene.
The multiple layers of irony over using an Apple keyboard in a film adaptation of 1984 is kinda amazing tbh.
@@PendragonDaGreat I considered including the commercial in this video, but I didn’t really have anything to say about it.
I'm starting to think 1984 might really be groundhogs day
The standards that these ratings are based on are not documented, but after carefully examining all the Good/Bad ratings to date, I think the two worst Math Prop sins are "Not having a Math Prop" and "Holding an Abacus Upside down".
The two cardinal sins
@@ChrisStaecker Have you considered rating which is worse, making them... ordinal sins?
I got FIVE Math Prop videos for the price of ONE!!!
That denominator adds up!
1984 is a 1498 woodcut by Albrecht Altdorfer, based on the 1949 novel 1984. Its inclusion of a TI-84 implies that Altdorfer may have been a timetraveller.
the "not using typewriters" thing is from the book
2:48 I find the assessment of the correct use of the props a bit too harsh. After entering the numbers, the operator seems to look at his papers. I think it is plausible that he wants to check his input before doing the calculation. We can't actually see what happens because the camera moves on and he disappears from the frame. The scene is too short to judge one or the other with certainty. Therefore, I would give it the benefit of the doubt and rate it as good. The fact that the other machines are not visibly used or even touched cannot be judged as incorrect use.
I WATCHED 1984 YESTERDAY AND SAW THIS AND WAS GOING TO NOMINATE IT. I think we've learned that if you prevaricate then someone else will do it for you and you needn't bother.
I give the 6 uses of the appropriately named and labeled ‘Math Props’ math props prop gag a 576 out of a possible 864. Giving it any better of a score would have been 2 gross.
😊 👍
I have what must be the most obscure math prop submission ever. I just went to the high school performance of A Comedy of Errors that my friend directed and one of the characters was carrying around an abacus
That unknown device at 1:13 reminds me of some plastic Japanese-made adding machines that were marketed under various names.
Yes- the Chadwick adding machine
Instead of typewriters they have speakwrites, speech to text conversion machines that would've been a future technology but isn't anymore
Recently saw a drawing of Orwell, his jaw dropped, reading a book called 2024. 😂
I wish there were 1984 more of these
Although that unknown device does look a bit like a Summira/Resulta/Regina type of machine, I don’t see a register above or below the input area. I don’t even see one in the middle like the TriumphatorKA/LipsiaAddi. I suspect it could be some kind of checkwriter machine instead, maybe a Paymaster, with its lever removed.
This is my go-to guess if it doesn’t look familiar. “Maybe a check writer?”
🤔 I think I need a Math Props set of CURTA whiskey 🥃 glasses … or perhaps Vodka Glasses … there could be a crack on top to grind some pepper in. You know, to absorb the sludge. 😉 old Bond Novel reference.
Brilliant!
Just "good", not "double plus good" huh?
There's a scene at the begining of Raiders of th lost Ark when Indy is being convinced to go and look for it. There is a formula written on the blackboard (in a history class no less) is this just gibberish or the meaning of life the universe and everything?
@@jacquesbowman1959 I found this: thebigblogtheory.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/s0704-the-raiders-minimization/
I’d say at a glance it looks like basic physics- whoever wrote it had to know a little something, or was copying from a legit source, then somehow messed it up either by mistake or to make it look cooler.
I’d like to make a suggestion. If animation is allowed I’d like to suggests the two scenes from the German Werner movies:
ua-cam.com/video/Td5jxXhetyI/v-deo.html from 0:00 to 0:06 and
ua-cam.com/video/wpoQvAqban8/v-deo.html
Those movies are stories in a fictional town in Nothern Germany about an apprentice plumber who likes a beer and bikes named Werner.
The main figure in these scenes is his boss Walther Röhrich who isn’t the smartest tool in the shed.
It looks like he’s using a hand cranked pin wheel adding machine with a printer.
Translation of the mathy parts:
First video:
One and four that’s … wait a bit … (The machine prints out 5).
(The rest is just a call from the boss of the largest local building company from whom Röhrich desperatly wants to get a new contract but gets screwed over).
Second video:
That makes … in my head … In my head that’s …
Ja, erm, 1 times 1 is … (machine prints out 1) wait! … One?! How’s that? Is the machine broken? That can’t be everything for a multiplication. In my brain I got more, at least 2.
And 5 plus 5 is 10. Only so little? No, something has to be wrong here.
(Werner and Röhrich greeting each other).
… 2 in the mind …
Those are great! It's like the platonic ideal of a pinwheel machine, but it also prints! I'll put this on my list...
I feel guilty now as my tip resulted in you having to sit through all those adaptations of the same thing ;-)
It was rough going at times
Some crazy guy has an abacus gun in Kamen Rider Kuuga episode 45 and probably others. Thought you might like to know! It’s streaming on Tokushoutsu UA-cam channel
sounds amazing! I'll check it out
I think there's an adding machine in the new trailer for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (it's the trailer that starts at a prep school, I'll try to find a link when I'm out of the theater)
Yes! Very interesting- some machine like a comptometer around 1:33, and a paymaster checkwriter in the background. I'll have to check it out- looks like there are lots of old desktop props in that scene.
should check out the movie Brazil (1985), similar aesthetic (actually crazier).
Yes it’s on my list!
I love 01:06
I don't know what the Russians are doing in media half the time.
did not talk about the slide show 0/10
what's the slide show?
@@ChrisStaecker ua-cam.com/video/_X0gtSYTsn4/v-deo.html
Math props? None.
Clockwork Orange like music? Yes.
@@no7mac Wow! Thanks- never knew this existed.