With interest rates at 7%, for a $200k home, to follow the 15% into retirement AND house not exceeding 25% of your take home pay, you have to make 154k pre tax. The average household income last year was 71k, and the average house price was 417k. I love Dave’s principles, but home ownership in unattainable for the average American with rates/prices as high as they are.
Tired of hearing questions from people that make way over 6 figures.. make some videos with an average family in come of like 70k Give tips on how to buy a house with that salary .. because to be able to save for like a 230k house they would have to save for like a minimum of 5 years for a down payment that would be 25%of take home pay on 15yr fixed.. I feel like most people aren’t going to wait that long ..
The principles on Dave Ramsey’s show were developed when he himself was coming out of bankruptcy. The “principles” work regardless of income level. But they are not popular or easy. Here are some hard numbers Based on Household income of $70k • your income earning ability will help solve the problem. Can you work overtime? Can you earn $200 more per week? Keep asking yourself questions about increasing your income. • there’s a price to pay to become a home owner. There’s a price to pay to remain a renter. Embrace the choice that demands a bigger sacrifice. Your reward will ultimately be bigger. • cut your lifestyle to zero. (I started cutting my own hair, wife started perming her own hair). Cut cable, Netflix etc Zero subscriptions, zero entertainment for 2 years. Zero gifts. All meals will be eaten at home. You will look broke. You will be mad that you can’t spend your own money. • your friends will think you have lost your mind. • Try to save $12,000 to $15,000 per year ($1000 to $1250 per month). • Tax refund is saved towards your down payment. Every bonus or raise is saved • Open a special savings account for your down payment at your credit union Start looking at townhouses and condos under $160k. If you buy a house more than 2x your annual income. You will be house poor. Those are the facts. • Working 16 hours a day (6 days a week) becomes normal. • Listen to podcasts read books invest in your career and ability to earn more. • Start asking “who makes $100k per year?” Keep asking everyone until you find 5 or 7 that can mentor you • In 24 months you will have $24,000 (your down payment). In 36 months you will have an additional $10k (your emergency fund) • use the next 36 months to clean up your credit (your credit union will help you) • buying your house is do-able. • the 36 months you used to prepare is a warm up. Now you got 15 years to OWN IT. You know what to do. You know why you are doing it. The sacrifice is the price. Let’s Go. You live in America. Time to OWN your piece of it Best of luck.
I bought my 3bed 2bath 2 garage home in 2009 for $120,000. I was making $48,000 annually. Today its paid off worth $350,000 and my current annually income is $80,000. Im glad I bought in 2009. My $80k couldn't afford a house today. I live in NM USA
The home I purchased in 2023 has appreciated by $60,000 since my acquisition. However, the downside is the diminishing value of the dollar. I am currently contemplating strategies to reinvest $300,000 in the real estate market.
Right, I delegate my day-to-day investing to an advisor ever since suffering a major steep-down late 2019, amid rona-outbreak, and as of today, I'm semi-retired with barely 25% short of my $1m retirement goal after subsequent investments.
Angela Lynn Schilling is the certified CFP I use. Just search the name on the net. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.,
Such great advice; some people don’t factor in that with a house you are responsible for coming up with the money for everything that breaks. Home ownership is not always a blessing.
I always thought my home was just a home and paid it off quickly. My primary and beach home is not an investment. My homes weren't given to me and not a blessing. Had the money for upkeep and maintenance. Didn't have to "come up' with anything because I had savings,investments,and emergency fund beforehand. Called planning. What little maintenance I've had so far haven't reached even half my annual salary in over 25 years of ownership and that's including part of my monthly HOA fee.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 I agree, have moved a few times but have always been able to take care of anything that came up without it causing a problem; planning is definitely the key.
I'm convinced that investing 50k-100k in the right company before it goes big is more important than saving for retirement. However, picking the right company is so hard. I have around 200k in a HYSA and want to invest it. What are the best opportunities now?
I believe investors should start with S&P 500/ETFs for a solid foundation, then diversify across asset classes and maintain disciplined, regular investing to minimize risks and maximize growth.
The issue is most people have the "I want to do it myself mentality" but not equipped enough for a crash, hence get burnt, no offense. In general, Financial Consultants are ideal reps for investing jobs, and at firsthand encounter, since Jan.2020, amidst covid outbreak, my portfolio has yielded massively in ROI, summing up to 7-figures as of today.
I'm intrigued by this. I've searched for financial advisors online but it's kind of hard to get in touch with one. Okay if I ask you for a recommendation?
I have stuck with the popularly ‘’Celia Kathleen Martel” for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look her up.
Thanks for sharing. I curiously searched for her full name and her website popped up immediately. I looked through her credentials and did my due diligence before contacting her.
Nobody who is single can afford a $400k house at an 8.5% interest. Only couples with dual income. Save ur $$, rent cheap, and invest ur $. Don’t rush it.
Yep. I'm single with 20% down payment saved up living with parents and was hoping to leapfrog straight from home to a townhouse. But these prices and rates are awful. Made the hard decision to apply for a 12 month lease somewhere to rent until next year's market.
@@wtDrake and the idea of getting a 15 yr mortgage is absurd. $400k at 7.5% for 15 yrs with a 10% down u are looking at $4,400 a month!! Not counting bills and maintenance. Why does he keep saying that?
This is one topic I simply disagree with Ramsey about. If you can buy now with fees and all and stay around the same amount you are paying in rent you need to join the buy market now. It's a highly competitive market and your quality of life is highly affected by housing. In the meantime as housing prices rise, so do property taxes AND RENT RATES. In this case the longer you wait the MORE you end up paying for less house. I was explaining this to clients back in 2018 who now can't even afford to have the conversation to buy while they also cannot afford to continue living where they've been accustomed to because they've been priced out on rent. I bought my first house at 26 years old, paid no money down, and I'm now consistently paying less for the same home than my new neighbors who spent $200,000 more for the same houses in the past 5 years with the values steadily ticking up. I refinanced last year and paid off every single debt save the mortgage at a lower monthly rate and life has a greater freedom and the least stress than I've ever had. I'm literally debt free BECAUSE I bought a house.
Yeah, I’m so sick and tired of everybody in the state complaining about having 200 for you really most people make 60 a year here unless you’re a doctor in IT tech. I live in Colorado and I hate it now they ruined it. They turned into LA.
If you follow the rules of 25% of take-home pay and 15-year fixed mortgage. Even putting down 20% . The only people that would be able to afford a house are people making over 200 grand a year.
Only if you live in an expensive area. Houses are cheap as fuck literally everywhere where but where the people who complain live. They need to stop being afraid of a commute.
@@xenn4985 that is an ignorant comment. I agree with and live by Dave’s principles but 80% of Americans live in or by a city and that’s where work is. An hour or more commute into the city is not reasonable
@@tylersanders2388 alright let me make this real simple for you. There is work, elsewhere... If youre having trouble affording an area, leave the area... No amount of excuses will change the solution...
Always been a reality everyone won’t be owning a home. Many people can’t afford to buy the house they want and really nothing new. Been going on since the 80s. There are many foreclosures and short sales so many have tried. Don’t even have to be a house. Don’t need to have granite island kitchens,two car,bed/bath per child,and duel bathroom sinks. Can always rent or lease. Live with parents like many here like to do. Many options.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 Can always rent or lease? You may have to leave. My $50K in 2011 is now $500K Rent in the hood was $700, Now $2400 My neighbor was at $1400, raised to $2300 He now commutes 40 miles one way, $1800/mo
This is also what I was told when I bought a place 20 years ago now. "You can't afford it.... You can't do this, you can't do that. It will never work, etc." Mathematically, it works out about the same. And people throw perfectly good stuff away now more than ever that can be used to furnish or otherwise improve the home, used to mow the lawn, etc. I am sitting on the couch right now looking around... Free refrigerator over there in the kitchenette, free television, free microwave, a $2 toaster from a garage sale. My weed whipper was free, rider mower was free, the cars outside were less than $5,000 each. $free$ speakers for better TV sound, $free$ Blu-ray player, free pictures on the wall, free window blinds, $4.00 garage sale shoes, free laptop computer, my phone bill is $25/mo, and the phone itself was free, too. I dunno. I don't see things being, on average, more expensive than 20 years ago when Craigslist was barely a thing. The same jobs I would have worked back then are paying literally double. People's financial problems these days are due to not working enough and/or overspending.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 We have had a ~week of +$100K's I agree with you, how about a mix? HINC-04, US Census Median household income was $101K, married with children under 18
@Dividendflywheel Exactly! I think people forget that Ramsey is trying to help people not fall back into a poverty mindset. So, folks can go buy a house while they have debt if they want to do so, but they will probably be stressing over money still in years to come.
My take home pay averages $3,600 per month. My PITI is $1,446. I try to pay $1,900-2,000 per month. I’m just going to push through and pay it off. Hell, I’m almost done as it is.
Exactly and if rates don’t go down sooner I can see folks walking away let alone, student loan, if they can’t afford the student loan payment that’ll start in October of this year
@@Bmc2021 While I agree with your comment, to say "If you can't afford the payment, you should've paid it off when loans were at 0" is an ignorant comment. They can't afford to make payments, so what makes you think they could've afforded to make extra payments when they were in forbearance? We can talk all day about how they shouldn't have taken out loans in the first place, but too late for that.
In Ontario, that ratio of gross income to net income is correct: $20k per month becomes $11k after income taxes. Those Californians have it easy compared to us Canadians.
And then Canada has such ridiculous restrictions on mortgages. You have to rent for essentially x2 a mortgage because you can’t qualify for the mortgage because “you can’t afford it” all the while paying more than that in rent. I wish I was joking.
In Texas property appraisals valves yearly are skyrocketing increases taxes and insurance premiums. I was taught by poorly educated mother buy a house. She said " Buy what you can afford as long as it belongs to you." At age 21 my first house, a one bedroom old house cost $2,400 cash in 1971. At age 26 my second house, a two bedroom fixer up cost $6,000 1/2 down and payments in 1976. At age 28, my third house, a two bedroom cost $12,000 payments in 1978. Divorce ended my housing ventures with the last house going to my ex wife. With taxes, insurance premiums,and up keep costs, you never own a house. You are just the maintenance person living at a cheaper rate. My advice: Buy as soon as you can because prices are just going up, but buy low and sell high just like in the Stock Market.
Dave and Rachel. You missed the question. Question was how do I know Im ready to buy a house. You only addressed the qualifying part. There is also...can i take on home maintenance, yard maintenance, etc, and then the biggest part.. do I know where I want to settle, at least for the next 5 years.
The monetary part of it is almost exclusively what determines if you’re ready to buy a house. If you have zero debt, have a fully funded emergency fund and a large enough down payment for a house within your price range without dipping into your emergency fund, you’re ready to buy a house
My mentor once told me “there’s a price for wherever you choose to live”. Another mentor told me “focus your time, energy and mental resources on things you can change (or control)” We’ve all heard the story of the frog in a pot of water that is (imperceptibly) getting hotter and hotter. Just a little more un- comfortable with every passing hour. Stay Hungry my friend
@@xenn4985easier said than done. Typically wages fluctuate with the states cost of living. First they would need to save for a down payment in the state they want to move to. Find a house they want in that state. Then before purchasing that house find a job with a comparable salary to what they have right now. Manage the move and leave family behind. It's possible just a lot tougher than people act like it is. We're also talking Jersey which is not as bad as Cali or New York... yet. But we're usually like 2 or 3 years behind Cali so keeping that in mind I need to get out of this state. The above is my plan. Currently I am very close to paying off all my debt. Got about 10k left of student loans. Car's paid for. I'll probably be saving for a house for a couple years and hopefully the markets crash and I can get a lot more house than with the current market. I'll be leaving my parents as they are getting elderly which I really don't want to do at all but I gotta live a life at some point. Every dollar I work for has been going to paying off this student loan debt. I don't go out to the bar or eat out. Hopefully I'll be out of their house by the time I'm 33, live like an adult and be able to enjoy what youth I have left.
Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing with $150k and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and get more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family.
@PilouBen However, if you do not have access to a professional like Clementina Abate Russo, quitting your job to focus on trading may not be the best approach. It is important to consider all options and seek guidance from reliable sources before making any major decisions. Consulting with an AI or using automated trading systems can also be helpful in managing investments while balancing other commitments.
Yes this caller can afford a house. Get a 30 year mortgage and put 5% down, keep about $20k for repairs, and have a 6 month emergency fund. If you wait any longer the home is just going to be more expensive. In five years, that mortgage payment is going to look real cheep compared to paying rent.
To buy the house my wife and I own today on a 30 year mortgage with 5% down your payments will be $7800 a month and down payment will be more than what we payed for house 33 years ago. Housing is broken in the US.
False. This housing market is going to crash. Many people and even investment companies that bought over the past 3 years are going to be in for a rude awakening when they're all in negative equity. The market is completely unsustainable people cannot afford houses so either the prices need to drop to reflect what people can afford or wages need to increase substantially.
@@jlava1575I think that heavily depends on the area. If your area has true demand for homes you won't see a crash. Regulations have changed a LOT since the early 2000s. It's harder to qualify for a loan.
@@sweetseve1150 it's not that hard to qualify for a loan. I could have qualified for a $300k house and put 3% down and would have been paying half my takehome towards the mortgage. I know many people that have done that to lock themselves into a low rate. But now their property taxes have gone up, their home owners insurance has gone up, groceries have gone up, gas has gone up and their student loan payments are starting up again soon. It's going to get ugly real quickly in this country.
Completely unattainable for the regular person. I have zero debt, 5 months saving in my emergency fund and a dual income of $180k per year. The average home price where I live is around $600k. With current interests rates at over 7% our mortgage payment will be over $3600 per month. Even if we save for the down payment, every year the market goes up about 10-15%. We'd be saving forever just for the down payment. Seems like a pipe dream to own.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 😂 Dave is not the one buying the house. You right. His baby steps = common sense. But we live in a free country. Where people put themselves into financial slavery. Go figure.
@@handleyobusiness Yup. One of my friends bought a newly remodeled two bed two bath garage apartment style condo with in unit laundry room and nice island kitchen for $160k near me. He makes about $105k/yr currently where I used to work and will reach $150k in a couple of years. With a down payment and 30yr his monthly payment is $550/mo. and plan to pay it off quickly.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 So many folks have made up their mind to prove Dave Ramsey wrong. They miss a tremendous opportunity to learn. Wealth starts with knowledge and experience before it is transformed into any material form. By rejecting and arguing with Dave they are just reinforcing the status-quo in their lives. 😂 Those that know, know! Those that are eager yo learn will learn. Those who have all the answers (go start your own show 😂). Just kidding Find a system you believe in, then immerse yourself in it until you achieve the results you want. Life is too short to be nit-picking what others are doing. Especially when millions have already proven it works. Just my 2cents.
For everyone saying "oh life's so difficult making 240k a year"......I don't disagree. But it's pretty much the same like someone making 140k and complaining about how they're not making it. It comes down to managing money
Living in expensive areas,debt up to eyeballs,keeping up with the Joneses,FOMO,YOLO,etc. and things like divorce fleece,weaponized child support,etc. will do that.
Almost 30k/mo income and you'd lose sleep over your housing expense (generally a person's biggest) being 4k/mo? That's incredibly conservative, but congrats on being in that privileged position.
I'm here for advice. I am a huge fan of this show. I have a Box truck business with a single Box truck in my fleet. The business isn't going anywhere for 3 yrs now. I've tried so hard and it's gotten me in over $10,000 in debt mostly credit card. My mom has helped me, My girlfriend has helped me and I can't support them nor pay them back because the business isn't growing. Moreover my son 12 yrs old going to 13. He needs me. Should I sell my truck for about $15,000 or $17,000 pay my debt and and go back to the workforce plus focus on other business ventures??
It’s the callers job to know the math since they're the ones buying a home. If the caller who can't do math want more details stop going cheap and get the real numbers with a good CPA.
@@ginoturano6821 I’m currently on a train from Rome Italy to Lugano with good Wi-Fi and a lot of time on my hands. Just common sense to me. Why would a debt free multimillionaire need any defending by anyone? This is a cash cow for him and I am a Google shareholder of 14 years.
Thank you Ramsey. You and your team have literally guided me through my late 20s and all of my 30s. We(++Wifey) are about to venture into the next stage of out lives and are purchasing a home. I think this person like us is just terrified.😂 But Dave or as I like to call him, my Virtual Grandpa 👴 always just knows .
I swear you people confuse the shit out of me. 500k house? MY BROTHER IN CHRIST YOU ARE BUYING A HOUSE LOOK ELSWHERE WHERE HOUSES ARE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE
I'm glad I DIDN'T listen to his advice on investing in Bitcoin because now I have 500K for a nice down payment on a house.....and no debt ! Thanks Mr Ramsey 🤑
My partner wants to cut corners and get what they want NOW instead of following the baby steps because it's going to take a long and they're not the best at business and getting raises or better jobs to get more money
After taxes and 401 contributions. His take home certainly is 11k. Maybe 12k. Taxes, insurance, possibly union dues leaves you with about 60 percent of your gross. If he’s putting in 23k in his 401……his net is CERTAINLY 11k or a little more. Believe me. It’s true. I’m Dave’s biggest fan but he never accurately figures in the right amount for taxes.
How can the average person buy a house and have their mortgage be 25% of their monthly income? I live in MA I make 115k a year. The average home in my area is 450k. Even if I put 20% down my mortgage is going to be around 3,100$. I’d have to make around 150k a year for that to be 25% of my monthly income.
Good luck with that formula on the East Coast! I'm earning twice the state average and according to this formula, I won't afford any of the homes listed unless it's a shell that needs to be renovated 100%. A $300,000 home on a 15-year fixed with a 5% downpayment and interest at 7.75 would be $3500 which means you would need to have a take-home pay of 14,000 (according to your 25% rule) while the state average is at 65-70k annually GROSS!
PLEASE DO NOT buy a house right now. The housing crash has begun. Home prices will drop drastically over this cycle. If you buy a home today with credit, YOU WILL LOSE IT!
That's not how a crash works. It's a sudden instantaneous event by definition. If it's begun, it's essentially over. Anything that declines over months or years is not a crash by definition.
Why will I lose it? If I get a home I can afford a crash has no bearing on my ownership. My house lost almost half its value in 2008-9, I was crazy upside down, just kept making my payment like I always had. was back to normal around 2013, now has more that tripled my purchase price.
@@jhondoe1483 Great point. I just wouldn’t want to buy a maximum high price home right now when we know they are coming down in price and will continue. If you don’t lose your job and can afford the payments being under water won’t be that bad. I’d just rather get a deal. Anyone buying a home today that they can barely afford now, will likely lose it over the next few years.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 It is a slow process when home prices drop. It took 4-5 years for the GFC to take down home prices. I would rather buy once the prices are more reasonable. That’s my only concern.
@@georgeorwell3501 meh, if you’re buying a home you can’t afford the market doesn’t matter. Markets can’t be perfectly predicted, the only thing I can 100% guarantee is that At the end of the day real estate will increase in value over time period end, if you buy today your home will go up over an extended period period. Timing the market isn’t possible. House prices fall because of oversupply usually linked to a drop in buying power historically because of interest rates increasing rapidly (doesn’t make homes affordable it makes them more expensive over the length of the loan)
Now how can I get myself out of being broke so that I can afford to buy a home? Because a part time job isn’t enough, 2 businesses on the side isn’t enough. Or should I just accept renting and put money in those pockets for these raggedy, run down places that are charging $1000 in rent?
Ok so i work for a Union in the Building Trades. My hourly pay is $55.16/hr. Plus 10.85/hr that goes into my family's health plan, 0.50/hr for health card, 11.82/hr for local pension, 3.00/hr for 401a, and 4.45/hr for National Pension. Many people don't get this and out of their take home pay they need to pay for health insurance and put money away for retirement. I get that taken care of by my union. So my question is when calculating for buying a home am I calculating 25% of my take home @ $55.16 or $85.78?
Use your net take home after taxes. That is the only amount that you have access to. Also, do not take overtime into consideration or special projects.
What did you make on your W2 last year? Multiply your gross income by 2. That number is the maximum house you should buy. Example you make $100k per year (multiply by 2) = $200k Your income dictates you should be looking for houses in the $180k to $240k range. Assuming you have $40k down payment (for the $240k house). This formula will allow you to OWN the house free and clear in 12 to 13 years. Then you can move up in house using 100% equity in your current house to buy a $400k house.
What is the cheapest price of a home that you can pay cash or willing to live in? Can you buy a second within two years and rent the first one out. Can you buy a third house two years later and rent two out. My dream was to have 10 house by age 40, but I was divorced at age 29 .🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫 Still happy. 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
@@KICKSBLVD This why it’s important to increase income every year. They should consider inflation and keep to their savings goals, but never stop growing as a person in all aspects of life.
I've been telling people for years it's a planned global depression. We're in world war three now, once it goes hot beyond Ukraine, they'll let their fiat systems collapse, and blame the expanded war on it. They're slow rolling the digital system so they don't scare away all the sheep.
This is just a guide, people, it's not set in stone, and you won't be forced at gun point to obey. As a matter of fact, you don't even need to follow this plan at all if you have no other debts. 35 or 45% of your take home pay won't kill you. It may if you get a 30 year mortgage though.
Exactly! If you live in a high cost area just be prepared to pay a larger portion of your income to housing. Paying 35-45% on housing when the caller is making $250,000 is still a lot left over for vacation, and other expenses.
Following Dave Ramsey's advice, the listener should purchase a home that costs approximately $500,000. From the standpoint of households making substantially less than the listener, this advice is demonstrably ridiculous.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508that is ludacris on its head. The assumption is that if they don't buy they're going to save money. That's pointedly wrong. They're going to end up paying market value in rent as the landlords raise their rent. Eventually the place they're renting from will cost the same as the average mortgage rate in the area. Renters in my area are paying around $3200 a month. They are absolutely shocked that my mortgage is $1200 a month (that's the entire PITI payment). It's worth more than double than I bought it for. If I had to save up like he's suggesting I would still be renting. I'd probably be spending $1500/month to live on the not great side of town in an apartment.
@@sweetseve1150 The obvious is ludicrous? The assumption is that they won't keep their house for very long anyway. What you're not accounting for is that many people who buy a house before they're ready lose their house to foreclosure a few years later. And then they either have to rent for life or buy a more expensive house later on ANYWAY. So buying a house now has saved them nothing. This is going to be a very common occurrence in a couple of years.
Per their guidelines with the current rates, they could get a mortgage of roughly 350k. That means if they had a 20% downpayment they could afford a 437k home. On a 240k income…. This guidance is delusional
Dave is always correcting people on what THEY bring home after taxes smh lol. They look at their paystub every payday....NOT YOU. If the person says they make 11K AFTER expenses (which is what matters-gross means nothing)...then that's what it is!
240k is decent in NYC, but you still have to budget carefully. NYC is soooo expenaive compared to other parts of NY state and the rest of the country a 1 family house in the boroughs starts at 900k! A decent one in a decent area is over a million.
Why do you even take questions from people making this amount of money? He knows the answer to the question he just wants a pat on the back. This is not a great question because it’s been answered ad nauseam. Anybody that’s watched even a handful of videos or read the book knows the answer to these questions.
I'm favoured, $230K every 4weeks! I can now afford to give back to the locals in my community and also support Charity Organizations. God Bless America 🇺🇸
Because he lost everything, then figured out the traditional mindset on how to gain wealth is flawed. Then he earned millions and if he did buy her house, what father wouldn't do that for his daughter? His principals work, and people just don't like to practice financial discipline to get out of debt. That would mean delayed gratification in a society that wants everything now.
Nothing wrong with that. Just because your dad was so irresponsible with money that he didn't set you up on a good foot when you started out, doesn't mean that other people should be bashed for having good dads.
Rachel's house was maybe a wedding gift and Rachel pretends to have paid it off. Keep in mind it is all relative. At Dave's financial level buying a house is probably the equivalent (net worth wise) of a weekend trip for the higher income individual, if that. But like the other comment, it is really none of our business.
@@MrRubme Millennial, but thanks for playing. The reality today is the market itself should be irrelevant to most people. It is asinine to even consider buying a house in 2023.
Because you can be assured the government will get their taxes. Everything else are commodities you choose to have deducted. It's a formula to help you decide how much house you can afford. That doesn't mean you have to buy that much house. That doesn't mean you can't factor in those other things if that gives you better peace of mind. In the end, you do you, boo
I see both points. But before insurance deductions? Retirement savings? Personally retirement savings is more important than buying a house. There is renting and refinance but no retirement options. Homes should really be bought with wealth instead of to build wealth after typically 30+ years.
Dave Ramsey have an interesting way of repackaging George Carlins advice from the 80s. If you would just spend ten minutes sitting around the kitchen table you could figure out just how badly they are sticking it to you
Doubts really holds someone back from achieving his or her goals in life, I thank admin Macdonald for giving me a good tips on how to earn money from investing
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With interest rates at 7%, for a $200k home, to follow the 15% into retirement AND house not exceeding 25% of your take home pay, you have to make 154k pre tax. The average household income last year was 71k, and the average house price was 417k. I love Dave’s principles, but home ownership in unattainable for the average American with rates/prices as high as they are.
That is also assuming 20% down payment and a 15 year fixed mortgage rate.
Well put 😔
This
Don't forget first 3-6 months emergency fund and closing cost
Dave's lessons aren't about being average. Who wants to be average?
Tired of hearing questions from people that make way over 6 figures..
make some videos with an average family in come of like 70k
Give tips on how to buy a house with that salary .. because to be able to save for like a 230k house they would have to save for like a minimum of 5 years for a down payment that would be 25%of take home pay on 15yr fixed.. I feel like most people aren’t going to wait that long ..
The principles on Dave Ramsey’s show were developed when he himself was coming out of bankruptcy. The “principles” work regardless of income level. But they are not popular or easy.
Here are some hard numbers
Based on Household income of $70k
• your income earning ability will help solve the problem. Can you work overtime?
Can you earn $200 more per week? Keep asking yourself questions about increasing your income.
• there’s a price to pay to become a home owner. There’s a price to pay to remain a renter. Embrace the choice that demands a bigger sacrifice. Your reward will ultimately be bigger.
• cut your lifestyle to zero. (I started cutting my own hair, wife started perming her own hair). Cut cable, Netflix etc Zero subscriptions, zero entertainment for 2 years. Zero gifts. All meals will be eaten at home. You will look broke. You will be mad that you can’t spend your own money.
• your friends will think you have lost your mind.
• Try to save $12,000 to $15,000 per year ($1000 to $1250 per month).
• Tax refund is saved towards your down payment. Every bonus or raise is saved
• Open a special savings account for your down payment at your credit union
Start looking at townhouses and condos under $160k. If you buy a house more than 2x your annual income. You will be house poor. Those are the facts.
• Working 16 hours a day (6 days a week) becomes normal.
• Listen to podcasts read books invest in your career and ability to earn more.
• Start asking “who makes $100k per year?” Keep asking everyone until you find 5 or 7 that can mentor you
• In 24 months you will have $24,000 (your down payment). In 36 months you will have an additional $10k (your emergency fund)
• use the next 36 months to clean up your credit (your credit union will help you)
• buying your house is do-able.
• the 36 months you used to prepare is a warm up. Now you got 15 years to OWN IT. You know what to do. You know why you are doing it. The sacrifice is the price.
Let’s Go.
You live in America.
Time to OWN your piece of it
Best of luck.
A guy called in making 75k as a teacher a while ago.
They told him “sorry sucks you own nothing and be happy get a better job”
I bought my 3bed 2bath 2 garage home in 2009 for $120,000. I was making $48,000 annually. Today its paid off worth $350,000 and my current annually income is $80,000. Im glad I bought in 2009. My $80k couldn't afford a house today. I live in NM USA
Exactly
I should have been house shopping instead of taking naps in kindergarten 😤
The home I purchased in 2023 has appreciated by $60,000 since my acquisition. However, the downside is the diminishing value of the dollar. I am currently contemplating strategies to reinvest $300,000 in the real estate market.
Right, I delegate my day-to-day investing to an advisor ever since suffering a major steep-down late 2019, amid rona-outbreak, and as of today, I'm semi-retired with barely 25% short of my $1m retirement goal after subsequent investments.
Angela Lynn Schilling is the certified CFP I use. Just search the name on the net. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.,
Such great advice; some people don’t factor in that with a house you are responsible for coming up with the money for everything that breaks. Home ownership is not always a blessing.
I always thought my home was just a home and paid it off quickly.
My primary and beach home is not an investment. My homes weren't given to me and not a blessing.
Had the money for upkeep and maintenance. Didn't have to "come up' with anything because I had savings,investments,and emergency fund beforehand. Called planning.
What little maintenance I've had so far haven't reached even half my annual salary in over 25 years of ownership and that's including part of my monthly HOA fee.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 I agree, have moved a few times but have always been able to take care of anything that came up without it causing a problem; planning is definitely the key.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 keep tooting your own horn
I'm convinced that investing 50k-100k in the right company before it goes big is more important than saving for retirement. However, picking the right company is so hard. I have around 200k in a HYSA and want to invest it. What are the best opportunities now?
I believe investors should start with S&P 500/ETFs for a solid foundation, then diversify across asset classes and maintain disciplined, regular investing to minimize risks and maximize growth.
The issue is most people have the "I want to do it myself mentality" but not equipped enough for a crash, hence get burnt, no offense. In general, Financial Consultants are ideal reps for investing jobs, and at firsthand encounter, since Jan.2020, amidst covid outbreak, my portfolio has yielded massively in ROI, summing up to 7-figures as of today.
I'm intrigued by this. I've searched for financial advisors online but it's kind of hard to get in touch with one. Okay if I ask you for a recommendation?
I have stuck with the popularly ‘’Celia Kathleen Martel” for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look her up.
Thanks for sharing. I curiously searched for her full name and her website popped up immediately. I looked through her credentials and did my due diligence before contacting her.
Nobody who is single can afford a $400k house at an 8.5% interest. Only couples with dual income. Save ur $$, rent cheap, and invest ur $. Don’t rush it.
Yep. I'm single with 20% down payment saved up living with parents and was hoping to leapfrog straight from home to a townhouse. But these prices and rates are awful. Made the hard decision to apply for a 12 month lease somewhere to rent until next year's market.
@@wtDrake and the idea of getting a 15 yr mortgage is absurd. $400k at 7.5% for 15 yrs with a 10% down u are looking at $4,400 a month!! Not counting bills and maintenance. Why does he keep saying that?
@@theforeignerinamerica1817
He says this because there are cheaper homes in the U.S. and up to you to decide.
@@wtDrakeBruh you’re too old to be living with your parents 😅
What if you're single and make 400k annually? 😏
This is one topic I simply disagree with Ramsey about. If you can buy now with fees and all and stay around the same amount you are paying in rent you need to join the buy market now. It's a highly competitive market and your quality of life is highly affected by housing. In the meantime as housing prices rise, so do property taxes AND RENT RATES.
In this case the longer you wait the MORE you end up paying for less house. I was explaining this to clients back in 2018 who now can't even afford to have the conversation to buy while they also cannot afford to continue living where they've been accustomed to because they've been priced out on rent.
I bought my first house at 26 years old, paid no money down, and I'm now consistently paying less for the same home than my new neighbors who spent $200,000 more for the same houses in the past 5 years with the values steadily ticking up. I refinanced last year and paid off every single debt save the mortgage at a lower monthly rate and life has a greater freedom and the least stress than I've ever had. I'm literally debt free BECAUSE I bought a house.
I agree with you. 🙂🙂
🤫🤫Don't tell everyone.
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Life is so difficult with 240k a year
You have to be kidding.
People who makes 6 figure cannot do basic math is very upsetting.
I know right? Cry me a River.
Yeah, I’m so sick and tired of everybody in the state complaining about having 200 for you really most people make 60 a year here unless you’re a doctor in IT tech. I live in Colorado and I hate it now they ruined it. They turned into LA.
If you follow the rules of 25% of take-home pay and 15-year fixed mortgage. Even putting down 20% . The only people that would be able to afford a house are people making over 200 grand a year.
Thanks for the honest, no-nonsense advice on house-buying. Many of us delude ourselves on the financial realities.
I do feel sorry for new home buyers. It's nearly impossible right now.
It’s not impossible but with the price of houses and stagnation in wages, only the top 20% of earners can afford a starter house these days
Homes are being bought and sold everyday so not impossible.
Just impossible for people who can't afford what they want.
Only if you live in an expensive area. Houses are cheap as fuck literally everywhere where but where the people who complain live. They need to stop being afraid of a commute.
@@xenn4985 that is an ignorant comment. I agree with and live by Dave’s principles but 80% of Americans live in or by a city and that’s where work is. An hour or more commute into the city is not reasonable
@@tylersanders2388 alright let me make this real simple for you. There is work, elsewhere...
If youre having trouble affording an area, leave the area...
No amount of excuses will change the solution...
The reality is, most people, literally most people cannot truly afford to buy a house.
Always been a reality everyone won’t be owning a home.
Many people can’t afford to buy the house they want and really nothing new. Been going on since the 80s. There are many foreclosures and short sales so many have tried.
Don’t even have to be a house.
Don’t need to have granite island kitchens,two car,bed/bath per child,and duel bathroom sinks.
Can always rent or lease.
Live with parents like many here like to do.
Many options.
@@blackworldtraveler3711
Can always rent or lease?
You may have to leave.
My $50K in 2011 is now $500K
Rent in the hood was $700, Now $2400
My neighbor was at $1400, raised to $2300
He now commutes 40 miles one way, $1800/mo
This is also what I was told when I bought a place 20 years ago now. "You can't afford it.... You can't do this, you can't do that. It will never work, etc."
Mathematically, it works out about the same. And people throw perfectly good stuff away now more than ever that can be used to furnish or otherwise improve the home, used to mow the lawn, etc. I am sitting on the couch right now looking around... Free refrigerator over there in the kitchenette, free television, free microwave, a $2 toaster from a garage sale. My weed whipper was free, rider mower was free, the cars outside were less than $5,000 each. $free$ speakers for better TV sound, $free$ Blu-ray player, free pictures on the wall, free window blinds, $4.00 garage sale shoes, free laptop computer, my phone bill is $25/mo, and the phone itself was free, too.
I dunno. I don't see things being, on average, more expensive than 20 years ago when Craigslist was barely a thing. The same jobs I would have worked back then are paying literally double. People's financial problems these days are due to not working enough and/or overspending.
They could if we built smaller houses
Yet many people do. Strange.
How about we get someone that is making 60k a year. It's always rich people
Dave has been getting callers making from nothing to over $400k since I've been listening in the 90s.
No gun to head. Don't like don't watch.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 okay. I won't watch then.
@@blackworldtraveler3711
We have had a ~week of +$100K's
I agree with you,
how about a mix?
HINC-04, US Census
Median household income was $101K,
married with children under 18
If you’re making 60k, you’re probably not buying your first house right now. That wouldn’t be a very interesting video.
60k a year you both need 2nd and third jobs. American dream 2.0.
When you are completely debt free and have $2 billion in the bank. Then you can buy a house -Dave Ramsey
that is so right !!! that s crazy
Which baby step is that?
Foreclosure happen everyday. That’s what he is try to protect people from. But we live in a free world. You don’t have to follow his advice.
😮😢😂😂😂
@Dividendflywheel Exactly! I think people forget that Ramsey is trying to help people not fall back into a poverty mindset.
So, folks can go buy a house while they have debt if they want to do so, but they will probably be stressing over money still in years to come.
My take home pay averages $3,600 per month. My PITI is $1,446. I try to pay $1,900-2,000 per month. I’m just going to push through and pay it off. Hell, I’m almost done as it is.
Im 76 with no debt or money saved up. Should i rent out my casket as a rental property till i move in permanently? Im still on babystep 1.
Sell and buy it back
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I’m guessing 98% of people with a mortgage have a monthly payment more than 25% of their monthly income.
That's why most ppl live pay check to pay check
Sure, and 98% of people are broke.
Exactly and if rates don’t go down sooner I can see folks walking away let alone, student loan, if they can’t afford the student loan payment that’ll start in October of this year
@@Blessedandhighlyfavor they had a chance to pay their loan when it was zero percent. But they waited on a handout
@@Bmc2021 While I agree with your comment, to say "If you can't afford the payment, you should've paid it off when loans were at 0" is an ignorant comment. They can't afford to make payments, so what makes you think they could've afforded to make extra payments when they were in forbearance? We can talk all day about how they shouldn't have taken out loans in the first place, but too late for that.
Mr. Ramsey is 1,000% right. People absolutely need to have self-control and common sense.
Dave is always correcting his co-hosts 😂
For real bro I don’t know how they stand it.
Even his own daughter
He's also wrong. 240k after taxes is closer to 13K a month, not 15K
In Ontario, that ratio of gross income to net income is correct: $20k per month becomes $11k after income taxes. Those Californians have it easy compared to us Canadians.
Most would but ya healthcare blah blah
Canadians are screwed with Trudeau. Taxed to death
wow that is crazy lol. Canada is abusing u guys all the ways possible
And then Canada has such ridiculous restrictions on mortgages. You have to rent for essentially x2 a mortgage because you can’t qualify for the mortgage because “you can’t afford it” all the while paying more than that in rent. I wish I was joking.
In Texas property appraisals valves yearly are skyrocketing increases taxes and insurance premiums.
I was taught by poorly educated mother buy a house. She said " Buy what you can afford as long as it belongs to you."
At age 21 my first house, a one bedroom old house cost $2,400 cash in 1971. At age 26 my second house, a two bedroom fixer up cost $6,000 1/2 down and payments in 1976. At age 28, my third house, a two bedroom cost $12,000 payments in 1978.
Divorce ended my housing ventures with the last house going to my ex wife.
With taxes, insurance premiums,and up keep costs, you never own a house.
You are just the maintenance person living at a cheaper rate.
My advice: Buy as soon as you can because prices are just going up, but buy low and sell high just like in the Stock Market.
Thankfully the wonderful liberal states have legal price fixing on taxes and insurance increases.
Dave and Rachel. You missed the question. Question was how do I know Im ready to buy a house. You only addressed the qualifying part. There is also...can i take on home maintenance, yard maintenance, etc, and then the biggest part.. do I know where I want to settle, at least for the next 5 years.
The monetary part of it is almost exclusively what determines if you’re ready to buy a house. If you have zero debt, have a fully funded emergency fund and a large enough down payment for a house within your price range without dipping into your emergency fund, you’re ready to buy a house
450k average and low average town is the cost of a house in NJ, down 90k + closing ~17k + emergency funds 30k-40k = ~140k in saving with not debt 😅
Hey, heres a thought. Dont live somehwere you cabt afford?
@@xenn4985lol yup
My mentor once told me “there’s a price for wherever you choose to live”.
Another mentor told me “focus your time, energy and mental resources on things you can change (or control)”
We’ve all heard the story of the frog in a pot of water that is (imperceptibly) getting hotter and hotter. Just a little more un- comfortable with every passing hour.
Stay Hungry my friend
@@xenn4985easier said than done. Typically wages fluctuate with the states cost of living. First they would need to save for a down payment in the state they want to move to. Find a house they want in that state. Then before purchasing that house find a job with a comparable salary to what they have right now. Manage the move and leave family behind.
It's possible just a lot tougher than people act like it is. We're also talking Jersey which is not as bad as Cali or New York... yet. But we're usually like 2 or 3 years behind Cali so keeping that in mind I need to get out of this state.
The above is my plan. Currently I am very close to paying off all my debt. Got about 10k left of student loans. Car's paid for. I'll probably be saving for a house for a couple years and hopefully the markets crash and I can get a lot more house than with the current market. I'll be leaving my parents as they are getting elderly which I really don't want to do at all but I gotta live a life at some point. Every dollar I work for has been going to paying off this student loan debt. I don't go out to the bar or eat out. Hopefully I'll be out of their house by the time I'm 33, live like an adult and be able to enjoy what youth I have left.
Amazing video, A friend of mine referred me to a financial adviser sometime ago and we got to talking about investment and money. I started investing with $150k and in the first 2 months, my portfolio was reading $274,800. Crazy right!, I decided to reinvest my profit and get more interesting. For over a year we have been working together making consistent profit just bought my second home 2 weeks ago and care for my family.
@PilouBen However, if you do not have access to a professional like Clementina Abate Russo, quitting your job to focus on trading may not be the best approach. It is important to consider all options and seek guidance from reliable sources before making any major decisions. Consulting with an AI or using automated trading systems can also be helpful in managing investments while balancing other commitments.
@PilouBen Clementina Abate Russo is her name.
Lookup with her name on the webpage.
@PilouBen You are welcome .
I don’t see the link in the description “How much money do I need to buy a house?” Is it not posted??
Yes this caller can afford a house. Get a 30 year mortgage and put 5% down, keep about $20k for repairs, and have a 6 month emergency fund. If you wait any longer the home is just going to be more expensive. In five years, that mortgage payment is going to look real cheep compared to paying rent.
To buy the house my wife and I own today on a 30 year mortgage with 5% down your payments will be $7800 a month and down payment will be more than what we payed for house 33 years ago. Housing is broken in the US.
False. This housing market is going to crash. Many people and even investment companies that bought over the past 3 years are going to be in for a rude awakening when they're all in negative equity. The market is completely unsustainable people cannot afford houses so either the prices need to drop to reflect what people can afford or wages need to increase substantially.
@@jlava1575I think that heavily depends on the area. If your area has true demand for homes you won't see a crash. Regulations have changed a LOT since the early 2000s. It's harder to qualify for a loan.
@@sweetseve1150 it's not that hard to qualify for a loan. I could have qualified for a $300k house and put 3% down and would have been paying half my takehome towards the mortgage. I know many people that have done that to lock themselves into a low rate. But now their property taxes have gone up, their home owners insurance has gone up, groceries have gone up, gas has gone up and their student loan payments are starting up again soon. It's going to get ugly real quickly in this country.
@@jlava1575so where do you live then? Do you own a home or rent?
Definitely solid advice
Dave is right!!!. Wish I found him b4 I bought mine
Completely unattainable for the regular person. I have zero debt, 5 months saving in my emergency fund and a dual income of $180k per year. The average home price where I live is around $600k. With current interests rates at over 7% our mortgage payment will be over $3600 per month. Even if we save for the down payment, every year the market goes up about 10-15%. We'd be saving forever just for the down payment. Seems like a pipe dream to own.
The link is not in the description...
DAVE IS OUT OF TOUCH ON HOUSING AND RENTS?
He's one of the very few that are still in touch.
I trust the process. But the process says I can only afford a shed. And my household income is $150k annually. 😭
Dave doesn't do math when it comes to home buying
Dave is not the one buying the home.
People need to put down the Brawndo and be more proactive and responsible with their purchases.
Yes he does, you whiney crybabys just dont do the mental work to get to where hes expecting you to be.
Out of touch
@@roolyfeOut of time
@@blackworldtraveler3711
😂 Dave is not the one buying the house. You right.
His baby steps = common sense. But we live in a free country. Where people put themselves into financial slavery. Go figure.
You want the hard truth? Most people would need to save a 30% down payment not be house poor. Go do the math.
Or buy a smaller cheaper home you can truly afford.
Or rent.
You’re both right. I’d say buy small and continue to upgrade, just like buying a car.
@@handleyobusiness
Yup. One of my friends bought a newly remodeled two bed two bath garage apartment style condo with in unit laundry room and nice island kitchen for $160k near me. He makes about $105k/yr currently where I used to work and will reach $150k in a couple of years.
With a down payment and 30yr his monthly payment is $550/mo. and plan to pay it off quickly.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 Nicely done! That’s the way to do it, income outpacing expenses.
@@blackworldtraveler3711
So many folks have made up their mind to prove Dave Ramsey wrong. They miss a tremendous opportunity to learn.
Wealth starts with knowledge and experience before it is transformed into any material form.
By rejecting and arguing with Dave they are just reinforcing the status-quo in their lives. 😂
Those that know, know!
Those that are eager yo learn will learn. Those who have all the answers (go start your own show 😂).
Just kidding
Find a system you believe in, then immerse yourself in it until you achieve the results you want.
Life is too short to be nit-picking what others are doing. Especially when millions have already proven it works.
Just my 2cents.
Appreciate the GREAT ADVICE
For everyone saying "oh life's so difficult making 240k a year"......I don't disagree. But it's pretty much the same like someone making 140k and complaining about how they're not making it. It comes down to managing money
Yikes.... I make 350k and a 3500-4000/month payment would make me lose sleep.
Living in expensive areas,debt up to eyeballs,keeping up with the Joneses,FOMO,YOLO,etc. and things like divorce fleece,weaponized child support,etc. will do that.
@blackworldtraveler3711 thank Gosh non of that applies to me.
@@flexanesthesia7869
It really shouldn't apply to anyone.
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Almost 30k/mo income and you'd lose sleep over your housing expense (generally a person's biggest) being 4k/mo? That's incredibly conservative, but congrats on being in that privileged position.
Most people in the uk earn 20k to 40k a year love to here advice on this
Dave forgot properly tax too
No he did not. He literally said the house payment is principal, interest, insurance, taxes and HOA fees
I'm here for advice. I am a huge fan of this show. I have a Box truck business with a single Box truck in my fleet. The business isn't going anywhere for 3 yrs now. I've tried so hard and it's gotten me in over $10,000 in debt mostly credit card. My mom has helped me, My girlfriend has helped me and I can't support them nor pay them back because the business isn't growing. Moreover my son 12 yrs old going to 13. He needs me. Should I sell my truck for about $15,000 or $17,000 pay my debt and and go back to the workforce plus focus on other business ventures??
I would find a job in the workforce before selling the truck. Try to do both and see what happens. Good luck.
@@jordanmadden7388 thanks
Dave thinks 20k/month equals 15k/take home??? Obviously been disconnected with reality for a long time. Callers 11k estimate was correct.
It’s the callers job to know the math since they're the ones buying a home.
If the caller who can't do math want more details stop going cheap and get the real numbers with a good CPA.
15k should be about right accounting for taxes only. Since they’re married they’d have a marginal 24% federal tax rate.
@@blackworldtraveler3711your always defending Dave odd????
@@ginoturano6821
I’m currently on a train from Rome Italy to Lugano with good Wi-Fi and a lot of time on my hands.
Just common sense to me.
Why would a debt free multimillionaire need any defending by anyone? This is a cash cow for him and I am a Google shareholder of 14 years.
@@The1Weapon Wrong. I take home 58% of my pay after taxes, medical, 14% 401k etc. same tax bracket.
Don't get a 3k to 4k a month mortgage that's crazy ! What happens if you loose your job ?
Thank you Ramsey. You and your team have literally guided me through my late 20s and all of my 30s. We(++Wifey) are about to venture into the next stage of out lives and are purchasing a home. I think this person like us is just terrified.😂 But Dave or as I like to call him, my Virtual Grandpa 👴 always just knows .
Average people will struggle to put 20% down and @ 7% interest rate over 15 years, on a 500,000K home.
You would need $125k down and a take home pay of about $16k a month. Around a $250k/yr salary. That is far from the average person.
Don't be average.
Don't follow what others do.
Don't buy a $500k home.
The average family should not buy a 500k house lol. If your budget is a Civic don't buy a Mercedes S Class.
I swear you people confuse the shit out of me. 500k house?
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST
YOU ARE BUYING A HOUSE
LOOK ELSWHERE WHERE HOUSES ARE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE
This guy makes more than an average two income household. This is not a struggle to him.
When you say "completely" debt free...does that include student loans? 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
I'm glad I DIDN'T listen to his advice on investing in Bitcoin because now I have 500K for a nice down payment on a house.....and no debt ! Thanks Mr Ramsey 🤑
For 1st timers, when you win the lotto
My partner wants to cut corners and get what they want NOW instead of following the baby steps because it's going to take a long and they're not the best at business and getting raises or better jobs to get more money
If your yrly income is over 200k. And you are single. Why rush, save vigorously for 3 to 4 yrs and buy a reasonable home for cash.
Exactly.
My house was $50K in 2011, $500K now
In 2032, $1MM+
He said he had a family. I thought he had a wife and 1 kid.
After taxes and 401 contributions. His take home certainly is 11k. Maybe 12k. Taxes, insurance, possibly union dues leaves you with about 60 percent of your gross. If he’s putting in 23k in his 401……his net is CERTAINLY 11k or a little more. Believe me. It’s true. I’m Dave’s biggest fan but he never accurately figures in the right amount for taxes.
the economy is the gamble.
I make 110k by myself and I don’t know if I want to even start the process to get a house.
240000 per yr isn't that a close to 35% tax bracket
How can the average person buy a house and have their mortgage be 25% of their monthly income? I live in MA I make 115k a year. The average home in my area is 450k. Even if I put 20% down my mortgage is going to be around 3,100$. I’d have to make around 150k a year for that to be 25% of my monthly income.
You know you're ready when you have the option to pay cash.
What a delusional comment.
Good luck with that formula on the East Coast! I'm earning twice the state average and according to this formula, I won't afford any of the homes listed unless it's a shell that needs to be renovated 100%. A $300,000 home on a 15-year fixed with a 5% downpayment and interest at 7.75 would be $3500 which means you would need to have a take-home pay of 14,000 (according to your 25% rule) while the state average is at 65-70k annually GROSS!
PLEASE DO NOT buy a house right now. The housing crash has begun. Home prices will drop drastically over this cycle. If you buy a home today with credit, YOU WILL LOSE IT!
That's not how a crash works. It's a sudden instantaneous event by definition. If it's begun, it's essentially over. Anything that declines over months or years is not a crash by definition.
Why will I lose it? If I get a home I can afford a crash has no bearing on my ownership.
My house lost almost half its value in 2008-9, I was crazy upside down, just kept making my payment like I always had. was back to normal around 2013, now has more that tripled my purchase price.
@@jhondoe1483 Great point. I just wouldn’t want to buy a maximum high price home right now when we know they are coming down in price and will continue. If you don’t lose your job and can afford the payments being under water won’t be that bad. I’d just rather get a deal. Anyone buying a home today that they can barely afford now, will likely lose it over the next few years.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 It is a slow process when home prices drop. It took 4-5 years for the GFC to take down home prices. I would rather buy once the prices are more reasonable. That’s my only concern.
@@georgeorwell3501 meh, if you’re buying a home you can’t afford the market doesn’t matter. Markets can’t be perfectly predicted, the only thing I can 100% guarantee is that At the end of the day real estate will increase in value over time period end, if you buy today your home will go up over an extended period period. Timing the market isn’t possible. House prices fall because of oversupply usually linked to a drop in buying power historically because of interest rates increasing rapidly (doesn’t make homes affordable it makes them more expensive over the length of the loan)
Now how can I get myself out of being broke so that I can afford to buy a home? Because a part time job isn’t enough, 2 businesses on the side isn’t enough. Or should I just accept renting and put money in those pockets for these raggedy, run down places that are charging $1000 in rent?
Ok so i work for a Union in the Building Trades. My hourly pay is $55.16/hr. Plus 10.85/hr that goes into my family's health plan, 0.50/hr for health card, 11.82/hr for local pension, 3.00/hr for 401a, and 4.45/hr for National Pension. Many people don't get this and out of their take home pay they need to pay for health insurance and put money away for retirement. I get that taken care of by my union. So my question is when calculating for buying a home am I calculating 25% of my take home @ $55.16 or $85.78?
Based of Ramseys program with either take home my home payment should be no more than $2,200 or $3,431..in Cali, yeah good luck 😱👦🔫 dead.
Use your net take home after taxes. That is the only amount that you have access to. Also, do not take overtime into consideration or special projects.
What did you make on your W2 last year?
Multiply your gross income by 2. That number is the maximum house you should buy.
Example you make $100k per year (multiply by 2) = $200k
Your income dictates you should be looking for houses in the $180k to $240k range. Assuming you have $40k down payment (for the $240k house).
This formula will allow you to OWN the house free and clear in 12 to 13 years. Then you can move up in house using 100% equity in your current house to buy a $400k house.
it would be 25% of net pay
What is the cheapest price of a home that you can pay cash or willing to live in? Can you buy a second within two years and rent the first one out. Can you buy a third house two years later and rent two out.
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It will take approximately 5 years for a person who can save $1200 a month to save $70,000 (20%) for a $350,000 house.
Then the monthly payment will still be more then 25% of your take home at 15 year fixed
@@KICKSBLVD This why it’s important to increase income every year. They should consider inflation and keep to their savings goals, but never stop growing as a person in all aspects of life.
The Federal Reserve is no longer forecasting a recession. They are calling for a Depression.
I've been telling people for years it's a planned global depression. We're in world war three now, once it goes hot beyond Ukraine, they'll let their fiat systems collapse, and blame the expanded war on it. They're slow rolling the digital system so they don't scare away all the sheep.
This guy makes $240,000 he doesn't know how to buy a house with that much money scary
My wife got a new house buy divorcing me!
This is just a guide, people, it's not set in stone, and you won't be forced at gun point to obey. As a matter of fact, you don't even need to follow this plan at all if you have no other debts. 35 or 45% of your take home pay won't kill you. It may if you get a 30 year mortgage though.
That leaves you no room if you experience a sudden emergency or a layoff.
Exactly! If you live in a high cost area just be prepared to pay a larger portion of your income to housing. Paying 35-45% on housing when the caller is making $250,000 is still a lot left over for vacation, and other expenses.
@@sblijheid If you have a six to twelve month emergency fund, you don't experience emergencies, just inconveniences.
Baby Step 3b?
Following Dave Ramsey's advice, the listener should purchase a home that costs approximately $500,000. From the standpoint of households making substantially less than the listener, this advice is demonstrably ridiculous.
The only thing that proves is it would be ridiculous for most people to even consider buying a house right now.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508that is ludacris on its head. The assumption is that if they don't buy they're going to save money. That's pointedly wrong. They're going to end up paying market value in rent as the landlords raise their rent. Eventually the place they're renting from will cost the same as the average mortgage rate in the area. Renters in my area are paying around $3200 a month. They are absolutely shocked that my mortgage is $1200 a month (that's the entire PITI payment). It's worth more than double than I bought it for. If I had to save up like he's suggesting I would still be renting. I'd probably be spending $1500/month to live on the not great side of town in an apartment.
@@sweetseve1150 The obvious is ludicrous? The assumption is that they won't keep their house for very long anyway. What you're not accounting for is that many people who buy a house before they're ready lose their house to foreclosure a few years later. And then they either have to rent for life or buy a more expensive house later on ANYWAY. So buying a house now has saved them nothing. This is going to be a very common occurrence in a couple of years.
Per their guidelines with the current rates, they could get a mortgage of roughly 350k. That means if they had a 20% downpayment they could afford a 437k home. On a 240k income…. This guidance is delusional
240k id be happy getting 100k a year
Dave is always correcting people on what THEY bring home after taxes smh lol. They look at their paystub every payday....NOT YOU. If the person says they make 11K AFTER expenses (which is what matters-gross means nothing)...then that's what it is!
Most people don't have a clue what they bring home.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508that's not true. Most people know to the dollar what their gross and net is, especially if you're making over $200,000.
False. You are assuming Americans are intelligent people. They are not.@@sweetseve1150
Dave saying it's always been this way is a different bird with its head stuck in the sand instead of running around with its head cut off.
But more we wait more expensive it is it seems like I’m going to always be broke if my rent is 1500 believe me I can afford a mortgage
240k is decent in NYC, but you still have to budget carefully. NYC is soooo expenaive compared to other parts of NY state and the rest of the country a 1 family house in the boroughs starts at 900k! A decent one in a decent area is over a million.
And the carrying costs on that house depending on the area could be $12000-$24000 in property taxes annually.
People just send messages to brag about their income
its jan 31st, 2024 when i dont follow the baby steps i always regret it.
401k is before taxes though, right?
Mine is Roth,aftertax,and pretax.
Not surprised many don't know there are three contribution options for some.
Roth 401k is after taxes
Why do you even take questions from people making this amount of money? He knows the answer to the question he just wants a pat on the back.
This is not a great question because it’s been answered ad nauseam. Anybody that’s watched even a handful of videos or read the book knows the answer to these questions.
Once again, Dave has to come in and play clean-up.
Bad advice, what if he loses his job?
That is true of anybody at any income level.
What if he can't spell 'loses' ??
@@todd2456 thanks for the correction.
@@stevenporter863 that’s exactly my point, you shouldn’t over extend yourself, paying too much for a house will come back to bite you.
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How do you earn that much
Why do you do
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Hey Rachel, tell all the viewers how you bought your house. Oh ya, your dad was a millionaire and bought it for you. 😅
Because he lost everything, then figured out the traditional mindset on how to gain wealth is flawed. Then he earned millions and if he did buy her house, what father wouldn't do that for his daughter? His principals work, and people just don't like to practice financial discipline to get out of debt. That would mean delayed gratification in a society that wants everything now.
It's really their business what they do.
Think on your own.
You don't need to allow what others do handicap your personal life and finances.
So?
Nothing wrong with that. Just because your dad was so irresponsible with money that he didn't set you up on a good foot when you started out, doesn't mean that other people should be bashed for having good dads.
Rachel's house was maybe a wedding gift and Rachel pretends to have paid it off. Keep in mind it is all relative. At Dave's financial level buying a house is probably the equivalent (net worth wise) of a weekend trip for the higher income individual, if that. But like the other comment, it is really none of our business.
Boomer home buying guide which is irrelevant in todays market. Just win the lottery and then you can do this 😂
It's more relevant than ever.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 boomer has entered the chat lol
@@MrRubme Millennial, but thanks for playing.
The reality today is the market itself should be irrelevant to most people. It is asinine to even consider buying a house in 2023.
Give me a flipping break. This guy should've had a house 9 months before his kid was born. He can afford 2 of them lol
They cant afford a house in thier city at 240k a year using daves formula without at least 200-300k down
Why after just taxes? Why not after all taxes and deductions?
Do 15, not 30.
Because you can be assured the government will get their taxes. Everything else are commodities you choose to have deducted.
It's a formula to help you decide how much house you can afford. That doesn't mean you have to buy that much house. That doesn't mean you can't factor in those other things if that gives you better peace of mind. In the end, you do you, boo
@@Winnie-Kay It should be after that. Not before.
I see both points. But before insurance deductions? Retirement savings? Personally retirement savings is more important than buying a house. There is renting and refinance but no retirement options. Homes should really be bought with wealth instead of to build wealth after typically 30+ years.
@@jimmymcgill6778no
@@Winnie-Kay you choose to have deducted.
????
My employer takes 20% for a pension fund, NOT a choice.
Say it loud …RENTING IS A LUXURY…
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Dave’s blood is boiling rn
Mr Ramsey, 25% ?let’s be realistic the majority of people who watches or listen your shows can’t do this.
Let's be realistic. If they can't afford that they cannot afford a home at all.
How is Dave telling this guy himself that his take home pay is 4000 more than he has lmao
Is this guy serious? You need to know if you have enough money at 240k a year?
I am not joining the Dave Ramsey cult
You've already joined - you're here.
But you joined the America cult.
Dave Ramsey have an interesting way of repackaging George Carlins advice from the 80s. If you would just spend ten minutes sitting around the kitchen table you could figure out just how badly they are sticking it to you
I take home 11K a month, should I buy... Who on Earth cares??? You make 11k a month
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@CindyGuzman-xl5ui that’s great I guess you know a professional investment advisor as well
Scam thread.
@@blackworldtraveler3711 Stop deceiving people from following the right recommendation because you invested wrongly.
Our economy is screwed
Our beliefs are transformed into the reality we experience.
More people became millionaires in America in 2022, than in the previous year. These are average BlueCollar Americans.
Find out who they are, and copy them.
1. You are living in one of the wealthiest country’s on earth
2. You are living in the wealthiest period of human history going back 2000 years
3. If you cannot see an opportunity to create a future you want. Find people who are doing that. Surround yourself with them. Copy them.
4. Out thoughts are inevitably and ultimately reflected in our external lives
Best wishes on your quest
240k a year.. its so less. u may be struggling to meet basic ends. Most people will feel sad for
u…. you are so poor
Some people r just not as smart as u r god Ramsey!!
I can’t stand Dave’s daughter, I have no issues with him though.
I don't take advice from women
Get a life.these people need therapy a need to say look at me look at me. You guys should find therapy
Dave should stop saying takehome pay. He should say net pay before deductions.