Which Is Better: Doom 1993 Or Doom 2016?
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Might I remind people that not too long ago, someone managed to render Doom using living cells. Literal cell shading.
It's funny to think anyone would even argue this. 1993, obviously.
DOOM 1993 is timeless, i've played that game more times than i can count and i can always go back and replay it, it just doesn't get boring Timeless game design at it's finest, it hasn't aged a bit so DOOM 1993 is my pick :)
Doom... Back then it was everybody's true reason to upgrade to a 486 PC, even though they claimed it was for "productivity" reasons.
I was 12 at the time and when I knew quake, whenever it came, was gonna be heavy and my dad was like no the requirements are a 486 I’m like dad no it’s gonna run shit, so lesson learned, when quake 2 got announced we got a pentium 133 and a voodoo…1? I think at the time, eventually we got voodoo2 and that changed my life. I’m old and it’s hard to remember cause I was a little kid but either way man, good fucking times, no?
16 years separated the Atari 2600 release and the arrival of Doom. It was incredible. I was working in computer retail when the shareware Doom version arrived and it was a phenomenon. Everything changed after that ( we had 6 years of doom clones lol ), and it fuelled what was the arms race to get Doom running on a console. It made PC Gaming more relevant than it had been
There is no other game, other point in gaming history where I can remember where I was stranding, what I was doing, where I was , when first experiencing the game like I can Doom. The memory will forever be burned in my memory as one of the most iconic memories of my gaming history. Unforgettable.
DooM and DooM 2 will be my favourite fps in all games.
Still playing it with new megawads, maps and mods!
They are also bootable in Doom eternal.
Doom created the world's most popular genre that endured the longest. Anyone who played it back then wouldn't even dare to start comparing. There was nothing like it, everyone who saw it was blown away. It wasn't merely a game, it was an experience to remember decades later. If you didn't go through it back then, you can't replicate the experience today. And the people, they were dodging physically in front of the screen!
Yes. But that’s nostalgia. We’re talking about is new doom better than original. Yes, no one can deny the new one is blatantly the better game. But people have nostalgia for firsts. It’s why the Beatles are still over hyped. Because that generation have rose tinted spectacles. Same with original doom.
@@iio58 It's pretty easy to deny the new one being better. It has a lot of modern flourishes that detract from the core gameplay loop. It's also got a bloated story that, while funny how the Doom Slayer doesn't care, you still can't skip. It's also wildly unbalanced with its weapons and has a lot of redundant monster types. The OG Doom, while lacking in level design compared to what custom WADs have delivered, is so pure in its focus and execution that it's hard not to get sucked into it nowadays. It really does stand the test of time and is only let down by the limitations of its designers working in 1993.
I played it back then… it’s easy
2016 is better
1993 was more influential
If I could only keep one, it’d be 2016
That's not about nostalgia. New Doom is one among hundreds of other better games. Old one was the best of its time. I left new one halfway and didn't miss it, way better games since or before it. Old one had no competition in its day, everyone tried to imitate. New one ended up a footnote.
@@sapphyrus new doom, Eternal, is one of the best FPS ever made.. and its perfectly optimized for both consoles and PC.. saying its the same among other fps games is just blind justice and ignorant comment..
Doom was unique and legendary back then, its unique and legendary today..
Doom 1993 is hands down the most influental game of all time. Nothing compares. However, Doom 2016's gameplay is also sooo memorable. The feeling you get when you're playing Doom 2016 on Ultra Nightmare Difficulty in the later levels and wreck the absolute shit out of the poor demons is just insane. The bullying you have to go through in the first six levels is so demoralizing, but if you make it past Kadingir Sanctum, you become unstoppable. It's just too good. Here again, nothing compares. Not even Doom Eternal, since it has a vastly more balanced and overall more forgiving difficulty curve.
I really like doom 2016 and eternal, but i still go back to the originals way more. The modding scene is fantastic, currently playing god complex on plutonia 2.
I recently played Doom 93 for the first time and loved it. Simple yet challenging, love the large number of enemies, and it has a more memorable soundtrack than any newer Doom I’ve played.
Doom 1993 because enemies are all slow moving and high in numbers. Most importantly the imps don't crawl on the walls and ceiling.
If you have already beaten ultraviolence 1993 Doom I highly recommend you do a playthrough on Ultraviolence+
And do the same with Doom 2/no rest for the living/plutonia experiment. Good luck, I just finished my playthroughs and it was awesome
doom 1 shareware was such an important part of any 90s kid's childhood. the 2016 game was great but in no way was it a defining experience.
nice shout out to Tim Roger's masterful Action Button review of Doom. On ya Alex
Doom is eternal and digital foundry is aware of this. Lords among men. \m/
I played a vr version of doom in the 90s at an Ottawa expo and it was multiplayer.
I was playing doom eternal on my ps5 recently when a revelation hit me. I could not give a fuck about ray traced reflections,weapon mods/upgrades and codex/lore entries. I just wanted to murder low res demons in the thousands with perfect controls and pacing in fake 3d along to midi versions of songs by Metallica,pantera and Alice in chains. So I played og doom /doom2 and had a much better time.
still play doom 1993 today..... vanilla or with mods. there is always new interesting mods. or new ways to play it, like in VR on Quest.
Why even have both games compete with each other? The first two are brilliant - and so are the latest two which, by the way, left their marks as well with push-forward combat among other things. I for one really love the way id was able to reinvigorate the series and first-person shooters in general with Doom 2016 - just as much as I love playing the first one to this day!
You guys are exactly right. Nailed it. (Though this might be a slightly biased opinion. ;)
Hello there! :D
Fond memories of playing Doom on my Staedtler yellow and black stiped 2b pencil from my Ghostbusters pencil tin in primary school in the late 80s. Even before the game had come out. It was a simpler time.
Not only classic Doom existis in mithological status, it still have tons over tons of mods comming out every week. The gzdoom engine is super easy to use, versatile and powerful, making it great for those who want to start modding.
I love doom, ultimate doom and doom 2. They never left my pcs for over 30 years now, and are MUST HAVE games for everyone o this planet, which reminds me, I have to lock my sons in the gaming room and tell them they will only leave after they finish at least the first episode in ultimate doom. Those entitled fornite players know need to learn what true gaming glory is!
I think people really underestimate the cultural significance of Doom 2016. Not only did it revitalise the FPS genre with it's emphasis on speed and offense over defense, but the influence of the soundtrack by Mick Gordon can be easily seen in countless other game soundtracks ever since. Not only that but the current rock and metal music landscape would not look the same without Doom 2016's soundtrack, with some of the biggest metal bands in the world being influenced by Mick Gordon's unique blend of synth and metal, with him even now helping to produce for bands such as Bring Me The Horizon.
With the brutal doom mod 1 and 2 and amazing games to play even today.
I don't like the reloading lol
@@steel5897 you can turn that off
I prefer the original
Original Doom with Voxels is amazing.
When I was a kid and played RE on PS1, I really wanted to have freedom to shoot and run, etc. Look at RE4R now. It's exactly that and I think It's great. Old games will make people fell nostagic and things but we are at peak gaming, even with a lot of bad things like loot box. We have choices of what to play.
1993
Well my favourite is Doom 3. I'll get my coat.
Both
Isn’t this sort of like comparing apples to cars?
I think both are masterpieces but the 1993 original, as iconic and influential as it is, can be really confusing with the keys and level layouts. I spend more time navigating and wondering where to go than actually shooting. Never have that problem with 2016.
Doom is such a classic game, but zero kids I knew had PCs to play it. This was a rich kid thing.
I like playing 2016 more in 2024, but it is not as technologically or culturally significant as 1993.
I love all the Doom games, with the exception being Eternal. I really dislike the gun switching mechanic in it. Wish it played more like 2016.
I can appreciate doom for what it did to the genre, but this is kind of apples to oranges.
Ill take Doom 64. Still the best one.
Doom RPG
Doom 2016 continue a after doom 2 story.
Doom 2016 honestly doesn't look that much better than some of the 7th gen fps games.
93
I prefer the original with brutal mod and voxel characters at 4k 120fps
Doom 2016 never interested me because it looks like too many other fps’s
I like them both, but would most likely play 2016 nowadays - as the original (without mods) just feels too dated (to me).
Doom 93 scared the hell out of me back in the day 🙂
Great games.
I think 2016 is a better crafted game. I'm not denying the originals impact at all though. I think the fact the original has better mod support gives it more longevity though. Even eternal didn't have great mod support. I hope if they do another one it has better mod support like the original and doom 2. Honestly eternal is a game I wish they would of supported longer with more big expansions and proper mod support.
None, Skull Island Rise of Kong is the best
2016 is one of favorite modern games and 1993 Doom is one my favorite old school games. Both are masterpieces.
Eternal was when they really got it right, one of the best combat loops in gaming.
Doom 3 and 2016 are leagues better.
Good game. But, too much jumping around. It's like they ran out of ideas and added a shit load of jumping to mix it up
The rock paper scissor nature of combat kind of ruined it for me. Also the marauders where the worst gimmick fight ever.
@@reyjimenz😂😂😂
eternal has too much parkour/swinging stuff which is just dumb
2016 is not a remake.
They say as much in the video if you watch it.
vid is only 4 minutes long, did you comment before watching a 4 minute video you clicked on?
Cringe
Doom 3 is the best modern Doom till now.
Doom 3.
Doom Eternal
The original DOOM is an iconic game. DOOM from 2016 is the best shooter ever made.
I haven’t played the 2016 version, but isn’t Eternal universally praised as an improvement over 2016?
@@h4x0y yes and no.
I really like Eternal but for me, DOOM 2016 is better
Too bad it had forced melee combat, that ruined new doom for me
@@h4x0y Eternal is cringe with all the Tomb Raider parkour-like gameplay
Doom 3 the best😂
Doom 3 while an amazing game is not really a Doom game
More iconic: 93
Which would I rather play: 16/Eternal
I grew up with the original Doom and Doom 2. But the newer versions are masterpieces both 2016 and Eternal..
I think Doom (1993) is overrated. Not at the time, mind you. But those levels... um, mazes, more like. I was there when it came out, and the graphics blew my mind. But I vividly remember how much hatred I felt for wandering aimlessly in the samey looking corridors and searching for a red key. It was a step up from Wolf 3D, sure. But I think the biggest next step was Duke Nukem 3D. The levels actually looked like real places! And the whole game has a more creative and inventive style to it. And BLOOD oh my, now that is even better!
But, of course, I understand the significance of doom. I just don't understand why so many people wear those rose-tinted glasses regarding the level designs.
DOOM(1993) didn't age well at all
at least 2D games from back in the day aged quite well
sure for its time it was amazing, but anyone enjoying it today is doing so purely for nostalgia and out of respect for what it did for the industry
I would love to see them upgrade the original games (prior to Doom 3) using the modern ID Tech engine with the ability to scale the graphics from the look of the original 1993 version right up to a modern looking game, with the ability to toggle quality of life improvements like being able to aim up and down etc. That would modernise everything but the basic gameplay and level layout, and would test how the game would hold up today. So essentially a complete version of the hidden Doom 1993 levels you could find in Doom 2016.
I don't think it's fair to say that. I play a lot of older games (not 2D) yes some of it might be nostalgia but it's not the only reason, I also play them because they're genuinely fun, a lot of games that come out these days I don't enjoy because they just don't make them how they used to. This includes Doom.
@@NIGHTWULF Video games today have a monetization first approach with questionable pre-order practices, microtransactions etc. Older games were focussed purely on fun and were more focussed on sustaining that with a simpler design. Today, games are designed to keep you playing with cosmetics, microtransactions, slowing down progression to force you to grind so you are likely to spend more money. All with tactics derived from the gambling industry - with bright colors and punchy sounds when you achieve something. People have been aware of this for a while, even social media gets in with some similar tactics. Mobile games are the worse for all this, yet a lot of them are free and generally make more money than any PC or console game.
Thank god for smaller indie developers!
The modding scene for the original doom and doom 2 is still pumping out content to this day, I'll play that over 2016 or eternal any day.
Eternal is better than both by a mile.
Nah, Eternal is rubbish. Easily the worst Doom in a long, long time.
Not Doom 2016 but Doom Eternal was and is still influential. Lots of games tried to copy its combat loop. It is too good and nothing can top that experience in therms of FPS. All other FPS are too slow and too realistic and I'm kinda tired of it. So, Eternal basically brought REAL videogames back. (I know I'm a minority here but if you like those FPS it is just fine as well)
Surely the question should be, does people’s nostalgia for doom still over hype the game when the new one is blatantly better? But nostalgia can never be beaten to many people
No love for Brutal Doom? That's personally the only way i play OG Dooms now... and in VR of course
2016 is ok, 1993 is wack, that sh!it just looks like a bad minecraft imo
Doom 2016 and doom eternal are actual unplayable garbage. lol
How did they get away with one of the worst game mechanics in videogame history...
i have no nostalgia really for it. played it a few times as a kid but i preferred Duke Nukem 3D so the newer Doom clears it for me