Honestly, godzilla is the superman of kaiju. People don't question superman but when it comes to a creature thousands of times bigger with the same abilitys.. People scream.. Dude. Godzilla is a giant superman. You cannot negate that statement.
Eh… this is somewhat explained in the guidebook as there’s a statement that says Godzilla harnesses his power to unparalleled precision in order to maximize his ap to whoever he’s fighting like for example if Godzilla doesn’t concentrate his spiral heat ray it’s confirmed he would ignite the atmosphere, but yeah I agree that dbz definitely does a better job of showing how powerful it’s characters are
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 I mean, the best feat we ever see him do on screen is when he moved a continental plate by slamming Larval Battra on it, and best statement we see on screen is that Burning Godzilla would blow up the earth by self-destructing. So if you go off movie alone, he's Continental At best when he literally isn't blowing himself to smithereens
@@Goji-C I didn't know about that statement! It's very interesting and possibly a game changer Btw how do we deal with the fact that burning Godzilla's explosion was shown to just destroy the earth? I don't want to argue against you but I mean..it seems to be a very straightforward feat, it's literally all the energy in his body being released all at once..without any form of control as far as I know
@@silvioantonioregina5246 later in the movie they say it would be a burst of energy unseen since the start of time, implying it’s relative to the Big Bang and guidebooks state that it would be the greatest force of destruction in history
Heisei Godzilla is so powerful Trendmasters made an entire toy line in the 90s based on him even though the films weren’t released in the US until after the failed ‘98 film.
great video , Heisei Godzilla literally got downplayed to much , for example : really much of Godzilla fans trying to debunk the "black hole" feats (and their debunk mainly is "black hole is a portal/black hole just gravity changing not that strong") Literally black hole can create massive gravity that can bending lights. There's a few more examples but the black hole is the most obvious thing , i just hate it when they never accept the truth.
They also blatantly ignore that the black hole absorbed multiple supernovas and a single cell grew from that. So even without it "being a black hole" it's still tanking supernovas for breakfast
Heisei-G G-Cell Surviving Into BlackHole Was A Huge-Outlier First of All You Should Know BlackHole Through A WhiteHole is A Opposite Side of A BlackHole On The Other Side of Space & Time is Basically A WormHole That Have Intense-Gravity & Scientist Confirmed That In Real-Life Cells Are Strong Enough To Survive Such-Gravity & His G-Cell Tank A Gravity-Force That Reach Multi-Continental-LeveL The Only Reason Why His Having Any Scratch In Battle Because He Have A High-Regeneration Ability Capable of Healing Any Injury In Second
@@captaincringe9480You Believe Heisei-G Tank Many SuperNova-Explosion But He Literally Got DMG Or Almost Die By Humans Super-Weapon & Some-Kaijus That Reach Multi-Continental-LeveL is Only Thanks To His Super-Healing-Ability That His Still Standing Yes You Right Heisei-G Really Tank Many SuperNova-Explosion (Me)👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻What's Next Heisei-G Reacting To Light-Speed Or Him Lifting Island😂I Just Find This Kind of Funny Some-People Keep Say Or Making Their Own Statement That Heisei-G is The Strongest Godzilla In Live Action Movie Bruh The First True-Creator of Godzilla Also Known As Toho Stated That FWS-G is The Strongest Godzilla In Live Action Movie & I Would Not Believe Some-Random-People In Battle-Wiki A Dumb-Person Would Only Believe Their Statement I Rather Believe The Creators Then Someone That Have 0%Knowledge About All Godzilla👌🏻
Being a Godzilla fan since I was three and Dragon Ball fan since the original show, this does bring a smile to my face I would love a part two and yeah anybody in the comments that think Godzilla is not that strong think again he's the king of the monsters for a reason.
After thiis video i understand thath godzilla heisei is really strong, but if its debetable by the goku of the anime if godzilla burning win will he do like a burning godzilla vs manga goku wich griw much much stronger And goku fans trying to scale him says thath Goku would be rank higher in the tiering system if he turned off ki control They scale him in outerversal but i don't really know if its true becouse i don't even know what feat nhe needs to perform But the most interesting feat i know is thath he is alot of times stronger than zamasu wich is stated thath could destroy every timeline i hope its enough PLS GOKU WIN FOR MEEEE
Bro you think Heaisi is downplayed!? Showa Godzilla downplay is on a whole other level of downplay. Like people be saying he's only small island level threat. Showa in my opinion is planet level threat at least, mainly because of Mecha Showa G and Showa Ghidorah.
You’re saying that showa gets downplayed a lot when you’re also downplaying him badly, showa era it’s so crazy that even solar system becomes a downplay
@@thepunisher4841 I chouse planet level threat because its the safest option. I know there is evidence for higher levels of power but until Showa Godzilla is shown to be a higher level threat ( like actual pictures ) Showa G will stay planet level. I know this is a type of down play but there's no photographic evidence and its not the worst of down plays given to a Godzilla.
Fax and amazing powerscaling. Your are the only youtuber I have seen who actually power scales properly. I don't like anime personally but good could put up a good fight and I think that heisei would win with extreme difficulty. Can you pls make rage across time godzilla against kratos pls
@@MonsterverseGodzillafan2019don't matter because millennium goji and gmk solos both of em hell. kiryu saga goji and sos can as well. also heisei is solar system to universal while fws scales even higher then that.
Because He Can😑 Think About It The Creators of Both Showa-Era To Heisei-Era & M-Era Which Toho They Stated That Final-Wars-G is The Strongest Godzilla In Movie & I Don't Believe Some-People On Battle-Wiki That Have 0%Knowledge About Godzilla-Movie I Mean Who Are You Going To Believe🧐The Creators Or Some-Random-People That Have 0%Knowledge In Battle-Wiki A Dumb-Person Would Only Believe This Type of People👌🏻
I've been a fan of both for practically my entire life (I'm really not exaggerating here and I think that's sad) but I never thought this was a debate people had. great video, take my sub and like
Heisei Godzilla is multiversal but the energy of burning form explosion was stated in the movie to only to be a planetary destruction feat ? Make it make sense Heisei gets so wanked 😅
I've heard that the Multiversal tier goes from 1001 universes to any finite amount If Godzilla is at least 71k times deeper into the Low Multiversal, it's very plausible he gets Multiversal
Nerds doing math: Do we distribute or multiply? Nerds doing power scaling: Dividing the power of this character by its mega feats with the variables of its shown fight it’s power scalding is 9479373938393993 or multi universal.
If you planning to make part 2 can you make gt SS4 Goku vs heisei Godzilla. Btw You missed a single feat that is kid buu is also stated to have the power to destroy grand kai planet. There are calcs for that feat around trillions of times universal. Also congrats 👏 on 2k subs
@@hectorsepulveda4797 he was using mid-lowball goku against max wanked godzilla highball wanked goku gets irrelevant speed with outerversal-very low boundless power
To be honest it makes much more sense considering that kid Buu's statement of destroying Universe 7 at bare minimum would require that much energy for him to destroy it, and since goku scales to this it means he should be able to replicate the same thing easily.
Wonderful video my man (even though you did it before me) im glad we agree on Heisei winning. Im going to do my own take on this topic and use some higher ends in both AP and Speed if thats alright with you.
Sure man we can both do the same topic I don’t mind I don’t own it, plus if one of our videos blows up the UA-cam algorithm will recommend the others video under the other ones
To be honest I’d want to see a GT Goku Vs Heisei Godzilla video more than a DBS Goku Vs Heisei vid since I think that GT gets way overshadowed and hella downplayed by everyone. He’s as strong as Kid Buu in his base at the start of the show and gets septillions of times stronger. If possible, I’d like to see both. Great video btw
You can look at Wrath Of The Dragon to get the answer. It took Goku after Buu Saga going Super Saiyan 3 and using Dragon Fist to kill Hirudegarn. Godzilla, in comparison, is frickin massive. I feel like it would take a massive Spirit Bomb in order to damage or even kill Godzilla, and I don't see any scenario where Godzilla is getting distracted or held back long enough to let a gargantuan Spirit Bomb charge.
Let's say we get to burning godzilla... right? When we get to burning godzilla, that's where we start getting... HEATED. Especially since the spiral heat ray gets more and more powerful every time he uses it. Let's take Goku's Kamehameha wave. It's powerful enough to destroy planets, solar systems, galaxies, and even universes. Let's say, they beam clash 10 times... Heisei's heat ray has already pushed goku to SSG. Let's say 30 or 40 times.. He probably has to go ultra instinct or maybe mui. but let's say burning heisei uses it, 50+ times. The universe would probably be torched for millions and even billions of years for how powerful it would be. Let me know if I'm over exaggerating a bit or if I'm correct.
I'm assuming that the reason you believe the whole Kid Buu being stronger than Buuhan questionable is because unlike the anime it's not specifically stated in the manga, which if that's the case let me tell you that in 516 when Goku is gathering energy for the "Genki Dama" Goku stated that the energy that was only gathered from there friends and families wouldn't be enough to defeat Kid Buu and do keep in mind that Ultimate Gohan's genki was in it as well.
Don't think that's much reason to believe so. When you give energy to the spirit bomb. You're not giving ALL of your energy only a fraction. Otherwise you would either be exhausted or dead. The other thing. If Kid Buu really is the strongest form. Why did he absorb the kais to begin with. Why would he ever absorb people in the first place? How would absorbing someone and taking all their power make you WEAKER rather than stronger? It's just illogical. Buuhan was the strongest. Kid Buu was just stronger than Goku and Vegeta even after losing his absorptions and was a far more dangerous fighter because he's just pure animalistic carnage.
@@THENemesisXX99 the "Genki Dama" only gathering genki/spirit energy which is one of the three parts of Ki, also Goku wasn't just taking a fraction of their genki he was taking as much of it as possible. Therefore it would still make Kid Buu around or above Buuhan's level of power in the manga.
As a big Godzilla fan, I’m not entirely sure that I buy the comparing cosmologies/timelines thing for Heisei Godzilla, but everything about Spacegodzilla and Godzilla’s progression to about universal level I could agree with.
@HopefulBlue depends on which one rulers of earth can get to multi solar while half century war can get to dwarf star. And then gih who can get to ridiculous levels between 5d and potentially outer
@@captaincringe9480 Not much of a chance for base Sonic unless he's faster and gets to use reviving items. Super Sonic might have a chance since he's comfortable in 5D and if Godzilla doesn't have Immeasurable Speed
You also downplayed Goku, there has already been shown universal statements since namek saga, and goku surpasses frieza in his base form. Also the dragon ball universe having super dimentions, hyper spaces, etc. Buu threatening the afterlife world as well as the kai realm both also infinite and maybe higher dimensional. Id say Goku still outscales and blitz godzilla comfortably
@@primisoda1400 don't even get me started bro he absorbed ssg into base which makes at least uni in base at the start of super he goes through many amps and zenkais through the top he slams mid different in base
@@pegkyegharevba4482 enormous goku fanboy, heisei can be scaled to multiversal at biollante, and is 8 billion times more powerful by 1995 and the burning godzilla is an increase of power to that
As a fan of both. I cant see Heisei hitting, Goku but probably dodging his attacks due to the statements here. I dont scale characters nor go deep in that stuff, because it just sounds hella boring, and obnoxious but I still see Goku winning this I'm just saying.. P.S: I'm not downplaying your hard work and effort! I find it REALLY IMPRESSIVE. I just see, Goku winning this fight
Those who watched the Heisei Godzilla movies know goku doesn’t really have any attacks that could hurt Godzilla let alone leave a scratch (literally had a whole argument with a Goku simp)
@MotionFilmz18 the earth in db is 916× bigger then our sun so the earth in db is solar system size and goku beat demon king who could destroy the earth and this was kid goku and goku survived attacks hotter then the sun didn't get scratches frieza namek sage is hyper level and ssj1 goku beat him and universal 7 is infinite in size and goku almost destroyed it in ssjg with 4 punches beat kid buu who been stated to have power to destroy the universe that's outer feat
This video is wrong because you are using Buu saga Goku but if you're putting Goku at his prime or the newest part of Dragon Ball then that would mean Goku could easily swamp Godzilla because of ultra instinct goku or master ultra instinct goku but i like the video
Liked your video 👍🏾 the only think that you might have missed. Is that db universe is a macrococosm tha Kaioshin realm , transcends space and time so it would be like 5d.
Cool video, but goku at the end of z is multigalactic, hesie in my opinion is galaxy to multigalactic level. Goku wins mid to high diff, due to hax, more concrete speed scaling and battle iq
His abilities in the anime seem lackluster compared to what he can actually do. But the villians that he goes toe to toe with are the ones that have the planet and galaxy destruction/threat feats
Btw goku in his base form in dbs in 1 punch he can shake the entire multiverse becouse in his fight whic beerus he almost did destroy the universe 7 whic 7 microcosim inside whic are all stated to be infinite in size he shake the afterlife too and afterlife is 99% mass while our normal universe is 0,1% mass and 99,9% space while burning godzilla is highballed planetary
You make a compelling argument. And one thing you said was true but from a certain point of view. Yes Godzilla did kill Spacegodzilla BUT did he do it alone and Could he have won WITHOUT Moguera assistance?
By the end of the movie Godzilla blows up moguera with a single shot of his spiral ray so what help he did do probably wasn’t anything substantial think of it like when cyborg helps Superman split the mother boxes in the Justice league film
you know they are still realeasing more officail infomation in guidebooks for godzilla and that information can be used to wank godzilla even more and nic on 2k subs the algrithem likes you.
All of this doesn’t matter when you realize Goku has insane battle IQ if he realized he couldn’t beat Godzilla in a fight he probably just lift Godzilla up and throw him we know due to the show that super Saiyan three Goku could lift Heisei Godzilla as Heisei Godzilla weighs roughly 150,000 tons and super Saiyan three Goku can at least lift 160,000 tons and probably more.
goji bro you know that speed feat you give godzilla doesnt count at all because it was space godzilla that did that plus goku at ssj3 was just shaking the entire universe but everything around him so basically that a universe+ feat just by its self plus the spirit bomb goku uses at his full power at super saiyan when he defeat kid buu was state by the dragonball z manga could could destorying about the universe and the milky way aswell so basically that feat by itself is low muitiverse+
Godzilla vs yujiro make a video and prove everyone yujiro can’t win I’m just tired of yujiro fans saying he is going to crawl inside of Godzilla and kill him from inside I’m just to tired hearing that
But also where do people actually say that shit? Yujiro at max wank is like city level with lightspeed attacks. And godzilla well the video speaks for itself
@@captaincringe9480in a video a man said yujiro would clap Godzilla and I commented saying that there’s no way and every last yujiro dick riders came and said if Godzilla goes thermal nuclear yujiro will tank it and kill Godzilla from the inside and I want the video to be made so they can see why yujiro can’t win
I had to stop when you said kid buu would upscale buuhon. I KNOW that one's just wrong, and I get to a degree why you did it, but it's just wrong. Whatever statements you made from that point of the video on were... Ugh, it's one of those situations where I hate how people scale certain aspects of goku. He is an absolute beast but kid buu was literally drop in power back to point goku could fight him. Ultimate gohan actually stronger than goku by a substantial margin at this point of the series and his power was a good 60% or so of what buuhan had going for him. Well that focused through the lens of piccolo's training and mind. I don't doubt goku could destroy his universe at that point in time if he really tried, but I also ain't gonna give the video any more watch time once you pulled that. I was already kind of out of it because I prefer to go for conservative estimates of strength up until that point. For example how you used frieza's durability to scale goku's strength despite the fact one of Frieza's uniquely strong characteristics was raw durability and survivability or how you would say goku was already planetary using filler and completely ignoring that seemed to be the latter end of Vegeta's capabilities based on how hard he had to work to even attempt it but... The buuhan thing was unforgivable man.
Well it kind of depends on how many generations of heisei Godzilla you make as well as how much power you feed him UC in his current state heisei Godzilla does have a limit because if you feed them too much energy to fast so just explode But if you get a couple senzu beans and have him reload the heisei era a few times basically not exactly obviously needs to be scaled up every time and then after he finally goes burning Godzilla you allow his son to absorb is energy and get upscaled based on that then if you just keep on repeating that process with each generation of Godzilla theoretically Godzilla's power could go up infinitely forever So it's just kind of based off of the scenario you use cuz then heisei Godzilla has current state he does have a limit even if it's an extremely high limit
Heisei godzilla doesn't actually have a limit to energy absorbtion, only the type of radiation. Its a common misconception that an overload of nuclear energy resulted in his burning form. Its stated in GvD that the his tansformation to burning godzilla was a result of the birth island explosion and the level of unrefined, natural uranium deposits godzilla absorbed. The Heisei godzilla relies on man made radiation sources to fuel his power, though the natural, uranuim sources resulted in his overload, not energy/radiation in general.
@@stupiduck2034 this is only semi true You see burning Godzilla was a result of heisei Godzilla reaching his current energy absorption limit and then being pushed over it causing him to become burning Godzilla otherwise burning Godzilla would have never happened (I am aware of the fact that SpaceGodzilla had absorbed infinite energy before coming to Earth and then after having his crystals destroyed lowering him to half then had his energy absorbed by Godzilla) And of course half of infinity is still Infinity it's not as big of an Infiniti but it's still Infinity (after all when comparing infinity's you are able to place numbers and sizes on them as hard as it is to believe) And even with the argument of the unspecified amount of uranium on the island that detonated and made Godzilla become burning Godzilla you have to remember that even if the whole island was made up of unstable uranium as densely packed as possible that would still be an infinitely higher amounts of radiation that he would have absorbed from space Godzilla who would have absorbed a seemingly infinite amount of power even if you forgo Infinity statements and just say that he absorbed a few Stars making him only solar system level this would still be a far greater amount of power than all of the uranium on Earth combined Which suggests that the amount of energy Godzilla absorbed from space Godzilla put him to his limit and the amount of uranium in the island that exploded was the straw on the camel's back pushing Godzilla over the edge Had Godzilla had time to adapt and wheeled this energy properly he would not have had to worry about that but of course he was not given such amount of time so he just exploded
7:46 C'mon man, we all see the word "like" in there, that plus the word "expansive" being in the next scan stops this from being some all time great feat. Plus, how would Piccolo know what that would be like in the first place? Not to mention, in our own seemingly endless expansive world supermassive black holes have collided and sent shook the universe as well, while not having anywhere the amount of solar masses present that are in one galaxy, let alone multiple.
William Oscar garvin: 🤨Look, if Godzilla Dwarfs all of that stuff that goes with done, this will be a whole lot more than what goku has done, and that's a little obvious That's why you need to respect Godzilla a lot more than goku And what do you have to say about bad people? And what do you think about that?
@@rampfirejogernutdrive2115 bro how can we compare a monke who cannot even solo his own verse vs a lizard who destroyd the author of his own verse Like damn Godzilla negs any verse.
@@godzillaop6106 must be on sum stuff there buddy...go do some research.. proper one to...maby ur comic stands a chance but not the movie type Zilla...u know how many times he nearly died? So much for being powerful
I feel like heisei is very weird to scale for me, especially since this godzilla god melted at 2000 degrees celcius, but somehow managed to survive hotter.
@Goji-Chronic now could you do me and the fandom a favor an absolute solid ok???Go over to Death Battle and Tell them all this Goku Information or would this *still* not be enough to get a win over Kal-el???
Honestly, godzilla is the superman of kaiju. People don't question superman but when it comes to a creature thousands of times bigger with the same abilitys.. People scream.. Dude. Godzilla is a giant superman. You cannot negate that statement.
Literally bro
I'd say he's the doom slayer of kaiju
That pfp 🪦🪦🪦
If we have Godzilla as dc I would say Ultima as the doomsday of godzilla
@@CarnisonVoid i never really got into the anime. Is it actually good?
Godzilla's statements are fucking INSANE. The movies really making him look like building level fodder
Eh… this is somewhat explained in the guidebook as there’s a statement that says Godzilla harnesses his power to unparalleled precision in order to maximize his ap to whoever he’s fighting like for example if Godzilla doesn’t concentrate his spiral heat ray it’s confirmed he would ignite the atmosphere, but yeah I agree that dbz definitely does a better job of showing how powerful it’s characters are
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 I mean, the best feat we ever see him do on screen is when he moved a continental plate by slamming Larval Battra on it, and best statement we see on screen is that Burning Godzilla would blow up the earth by self-destructing.
So if you go off movie alone, he's Continental At best when he literally isn't blowing himself to smithereens
Bro thinks he’s GT Goku
@@Goji-C I didn't know about that statement! It's very interesting and possibly a game changer
Btw how do we deal with the fact that burning Godzilla's explosion was shown to just destroy the earth?
I don't want to argue against you but I mean..it seems to be a very straightforward feat, it's literally all the energy in his body being released all at once..without any form of control as far as I know
@@silvioantonioregina5246 later in the movie they say it would be a burst of energy unseen since the start of time, implying it’s relative to the Big Bang and guidebooks state that it would be the greatest force of destruction in history
Heisei Godzilla is so powerful Trendmasters made an entire toy line in the 90s based on him even though the films weren’t released in the US until after the failed ‘98 film.
You Do Know Toy-Box About Heisei-Kaijus Are Not Canon Stated By Toho Right😅
If You Don't Believe Me Just Them👌🏻
great video , Heisei Godzilla literally got downplayed to much , for example : really much of Godzilla fans trying to debunk the "black hole" feats (and their debunk mainly is "black hole is a portal/black hole just gravity changing not that strong") Literally black hole can create massive gravity that can bending lights. There's a few more examples but the black hole is the most obvious thing , i just hate it when they never accept the truth.
They also blatantly ignore that the black hole absorbed multiple supernovas and a single cell grew from that. So even without it "being a black hole" it's still tanking supernovas for breakfast
@@captaincringe9480 True.They were trying to debunk it so soo much and most of them didn't make any sense.
Heisei-G G-Cell Surviving Into BlackHole Was A Huge-Outlier First of All You Should Know BlackHole Through A WhiteHole is A Opposite Side of A BlackHole On The Other Side of Space & Time is Basically A WormHole That Have Intense-Gravity & Scientist Confirmed That In Real-Life Cells Are Strong Enough To Survive Such-Gravity & His G-Cell Tank A Gravity-Force That Reach Multi-Continental-LeveL The Only Reason Why His Having Any Scratch In Battle Because He Have A High-Regeneration Ability Capable of Healing Any Injury In Second
The thing they are referring to is the artificial black hole, but because they are probably 9, they have no fucking clue what they are talking about.
@@captaincringe9480You Believe Heisei-G Tank Many SuperNova-Explosion But He Literally Got DMG Or Almost Die By Humans Super-Weapon & Some-Kaijus That Reach Multi-Continental-LeveL is Only Thanks To His Super-Healing-Ability That His Still Standing
Yes You Right Heisei-G Really Tank Many SuperNova-Explosion
(Me)👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻What's Next Heisei-G Reacting To Light-Speed Or Him Lifting Island😂I Just Find This Kind of Funny Some-People Keep Say Or Making Their Own Statement That Heisei-G is The Strongest Godzilla In Live Action Movie Bruh The First True-Creator of Godzilla Also Known As Toho Stated That FWS-G is The Strongest Godzilla In Live Action Movie & I Would Not Believe Some-Random-People In Battle-Wiki A Dumb-Person Would Only Believe Their Statement I Rather Believe The Creators Then Someone That Have 0%Knowledge About All Godzilla👌🏻
Being a Godzilla fan since I was three and Dragon Ball fan since the original show, this does bring a smile to my face I would love a part two and yeah anybody in the comments that think Godzilla is not that strong think again he's the king of the monsters for a reason.
After thiis video i understand thath godzilla heisei is really strong, but if its debetable by the goku of the anime if godzilla burning win will he do like a burning godzilla vs manga goku wich griw much much stronger
And goku fans trying to scale him says thath Goku would be rank higher in the tiering system if he turned off ki control
They scale him in outerversal but i don't really know if its true becouse i don't even know what feat nhe needs to perform
But the most interesting feat i know is thath he is alot of times stronger than zamasu wich is stated thath could destroy every timeline i hope its enough PLS GOKU WIN FOR MEEEE
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@@katiarcanjo1 nah i just want goku to win
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@@katiarcanjo1 you mean thath goku win easily 🧐???
Bro you think Heaisi is downplayed!? Showa Godzilla downplay is on a whole other level of downplay. Like people be saying he's only small island level threat. Showa in my opinion is planet level threat at least, mainly because of Mecha Showa G and Showa Ghidorah.
Well I heard that Showa was 4-D.
You’re saying that showa gets downplayed a lot when you’re also downplaying him badly, showa era it’s so crazy that even solar system becomes a downplay
@@thepunisher4841 I chouse planet level threat because its the safest option. I know there is evidence for higher levels of power but until Showa Godzilla is shown to be a higher level threat ( like actual pictures ) Showa G will stay planet level. I know this is a type of down play but there's no photographic evidence and its not the worst of down plays given to a Godzilla.
Heisei is city block level while monster verse is multiversal
@@MonsterverseGodzillafan2019 MV is atom level while Heisei is Omniversal level.
Fax and amazing powerscaling. Your are the only youtuber I have seen who actually power scales properly. I don't like anime personally but good could put up a good fight and I think that heisei would win with extreme difficulty. Can you pls make rage across time godzilla against kratos pls
Here's an idea: Godzilla vs. Ultraman, so the debate can finally end after nearly 50+ years
"I get giddy when I talk about him" me too man,me too.
Relatable
Came a long way from the planetary cap, love to see it
We was fighting the MV tards (mr Sterling) for 2 years but now they got nothing to say 😭
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@@uplays4554 "Goji-C umm" woah thank god there's a space
@@Goji-Cok i resse tthe video and i guess its cool gg
It's honestly shocking that SOME PEOPLE think that final wars Godzilla could beat heisei Godzilla
also congrats on 2k subs
Thank you man!
Final does beat heisei because heisei is city block level at best while fw is solar system
@@MonsterverseGodzillafan2019don't matter because millennium goji and gmk solos both of em hell. kiryu saga goji and sos can as well. also heisei is solar system to universal while fws scales even higher then that.
Finalwars is beating hesei. I don’t see how that’s hard to realize.
Because He Can😑
Think About It The Creators of Both Showa-Era To Heisei-Era & M-Era Which Toho They Stated That Final-Wars-G is The Strongest Godzilla In Movie & I Don't Believe Some-People On Battle-Wiki That Have 0%Knowledge About Godzilla-Movie
I Mean Who Are You Going To Believe🧐The Creators Or Some-Random-People That Have 0%Knowledge In Battle-Wiki A Dumb-Person Would Only Believe This Type of People👌🏻
I've been a fan of both for practically my entire life (I'm really not exaggerating here and I think that's sad) but I never thought this was a debate people had. great video, take my sub and like
Heisei Godzilla is multiversal but the energy of burning form explosion was stated in the movie to only to be a planetary destruction feat ?
Make it make sense
Heisei gets so wanked 😅
2:29 I’m just imagining something blowing up the Earth and it just leaves a lone Heisei Godzilla floating around in space
I've heard that the Multiversal tier goes from 1001 universes to any finite amount
If Godzilla is at least 71k times deeper into the Low Multiversal, it's very plausible he gets Multiversal
Nerds doing math: Do we distribute or multiply?
Nerds doing power scaling: Dividing the power of this character by its mega feats with the variables of its shown fight it’s power scalding is 9479373938393993 or multi universal.
Lmao be sure to sub for more nerd power scaling G (pls I’m so hungry )
If you planning to make part 2 can you make gt SS4 Goku vs heisei Godzilla.
Btw You missed a single feat that is kid buu is also stated to have the power to destroy grand kai planet.
There are calcs for that feat around trillions of times universal.
Also congrats 👏 on 2k subs
Gt goku was destroying deminsions in hell I don't think it would be fair especially after 100 years lol
@@zayy4440 yeah I know not gonna talk about the 100 year timeskip
Goku but the one that fought omega shenron.
Goku is 4D and heisei Godzilla is 5D to 60D
@@hectorsepulveda4797 he was using mid-lowball goku against max wanked godzilla highball wanked goku gets irrelevant speed with outerversal-very low boundless power
@@zayy4440 so true but to be honest I don't think this is consistent with Godzilla's actual feats and lore.
love ur videos man, the most entertaining ones.
Glad you like them!
To be honest it makes much more sense considering that kid Buu's statement of destroying Universe 7 at bare minimum would require that much energy for him to destroy it, and since goku scales to this it means he should be able to replicate the same thing easily.
Wonderful video my man (even though you did it before me) im glad we agree on Heisei winning. Im going to do my own take on this topic and use some higher ends in both AP and Speed if thats alright with you.
Sure man we can both do the same topic I don’t mind I don’t own it, plus if one of our videos blows up the UA-cam algorithm will recommend the others video under the other ones
@@Goji-C alright man thx ill be sure to mention you for the topic
This vid is cap bro you underate goku too much@@Goji-C
People call Heisei a DBZ character as a joke but goddamn were they right on the money. Chadzilla is a Buu Saga + mf.
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More like infinity fax
Heisei Godzilla is powerful, but he doesn't compete with Goku, and I honestly don't think that he's the strongest version of Godzilla in movies.
You just saw a video explaining he does
Great analysis. Yes I said goku would win but I do agree with your reasoning on why heisei godzilla absolutely slaps.
Godzilla will win he went in hell
@@illagermarcos8488 that's godzilla in hell. Heisei godzilla is different.
Goku went to hell too and defeated people who were altering it@@illagermarcos8488
@@illagermarcos8488 and you're gonna act like son Goku didn't?
@@illagermarcos8488goku literally went there and escaped.
Can you make a video about Godzilla versus sonic you can use?Heisei or Showa godzilla
Ayyy lets go!
Omg thank you
To be honest I’d want to see a GT Goku Vs Heisei Godzilla video more than a DBS Goku Vs Heisei vid since I think that GT gets way overshadowed and hella downplayed by everyone. He’s as strong as Kid Buu in his base at the start of the show and gets septillions of times stronger. If possible, I’d like to see both. Great video btw
You can look at Wrath Of The Dragon to get the answer. It took Goku after Buu Saga going Super Saiyan 3 and using Dragon Fist to kill Hirudegarn. Godzilla, in comparison, is frickin massive. I feel like it would take a massive Spirit Bomb in order to damage or even kill Godzilla, and I don't see any scenario where Godzilla is getting distracted or held back long enough to let a gargantuan Spirit Bomb charge.
What? Im not even arguing Goku would win but how does this mean he would lose, it just shows that Hirudegarn is really strong.
Movies are a different continuity and Toriyama said they're another dimension separate from the main story
Wrath of the Dragon and DBZ do not scale to each other
@wlarson55109 I know but still. I'm not a power scaler I just look at feats.
Great video
Oh my god... i didnt know heisei is that STRONG sheeeeeshhh
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great video ayanami 😼👍
Let's say we get to burning godzilla... right? When we get to burning godzilla, that's where we start getting... HEATED. Especially since the spiral heat ray gets more and more powerful every time he uses it. Let's take Goku's Kamehameha wave. It's powerful enough to destroy planets, solar systems, galaxies, and even universes. Let's say, they beam clash 10 times... Heisei's heat ray has already pushed goku to SSG. Let's say 30 or 40 times.. He probably has to go ultra instinct or maybe mui. but let's say burning heisei uses it, 50+ times. The universe would probably be torched for millions and even billions of years for how powerful it would be. Let me know if I'm over exaggerating a bit or if I'm correct.
I'm assuming that the reason you believe the whole Kid Buu being stronger than Buuhan questionable is because unlike the anime it's not specifically stated in the manga, which if that's the case let me tell you that in 516 when Goku is gathering energy for the "Genki Dama" Goku stated that the energy that was only gathered from there friends and families wouldn't be enough to defeat Kid Buu and do keep in mind that Ultimate Gohan's genki was in it as well.
And no one wants to talk about that
Don't think that's much reason to believe so. When you give energy to the spirit bomb. You're not giving ALL of your energy only a fraction. Otherwise you would either be exhausted or dead. The other thing. If Kid Buu really is the strongest form. Why did he absorb the kais to begin with. Why would he ever absorb people in the first place? How would absorbing someone and taking all their power make you WEAKER rather than stronger? It's just illogical. Buuhan was the strongest. Kid Buu was just stronger than Goku and Vegeta even after losing his absorptions and was a far more dangerous fighter because he's just pure animalistic carnage.
@@THENemesisXX99 the "Genki Dama" only gathering genki/spirit energy which is one of the three parts of Ki, also Goku wasn't just taking a fraction of their genki he was taking as much of it as possible.
Therefore it would still make Kid Buu around or above Buuhan's level of power in the manga.
As a big Godzilla fan, I’m not entirely sure that I buy the comparing cosmologies/timelines thing for Heisei Godzilla, but everything about Spacegodzilla and Godzilla’s progression to about universal level I could agree with.
Great analysis as always 👍🏾
Appreciate that
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I would love to see a comparison of IDW/ game sonic vs IDW godzilla ^-^
What does IDW Godzilla scale to?
@HopefulBlue depends on which one rulers of earth can get to multi solar while half century war can get to dwarf star. And then gih who can get to ridiculous levels between 5d and potentially outer
@@captaincringe9480 Not much of a chance for base Sonic unless he's faster and gets to use reviving items. Super Sonic might have a chance since he's comfortable in 5D and if Godzilla doesn't have Immeasurable Speed
@HopefulBlue game sonic vs heisei godzilla is a good match-up considering he actually has solid immeasurable speed metas
@@captaincringe9480 sweet!
You also downplayed Goku, there has already been shown universal statements since namek saga, and goku surpasses frieza in his base form. Also the dragon ball universe having super dimentions, hyper spaces, etc. Buu threatening the afterlife world as well as the kai realm both also infinite and maybe higher dimensional. Id say Goku still outscales and blitz godzilla comfortably
@loukaspoulos9912 lmao 🤣
Gotten tired of Godzilla stans at this point.
@@darktooth4576😂
@darktooth4576 fr
Well hesei Godzilla has outerversal scans in shogakukan databooks I can slide them if ya want.
Make Heisei vs DBS Goku that’s actually debatable
Base goku in dbs one taps
@@pegkyegharevba4482 goku dbs remains at low multiversal, heisei can be scaled to high complex multi
@@primisoda1400 don't even get me started bro he absorbed ssg into base which makes at least uni in base at the start of super he goes through many amps and zenkais through the top he slams mid different in base
Diff*
@@pegkyegharevba4482 enormous goku fanboy, heisei can be scaled to multiversal at biollante, and is 8 billion times more powerful by 1995 and the burning godzilla is an increase of power to that
As a fan of both. I cant see Heisei hitting, Goku but probably dodging his attacks due to the statements here.
I dont scale characters nor go deep in that stuff, because it just sounds hella boring, and obnoxious but I still see Goku winning this I'm just saying..
P.S: I'm not downplaying your hard work and effort! I find it REALLY IMPRESSIVE. I just see, Goku winning this fight
Please make dominion giganotosaurus versus the Indominus Rex power scale video next😁👍
Have you done one with Godzilla vs Superman?
Part 2 would be DBS Goku vs burning Godzilla
Those who watched the Heisei Godzilla movies know goku doesn’t really have any attacks that could hurt Godzilla let alone leave a scratch (literally had a whole argument with a Goku simp)
Goku negs
@@issacclavelo6395 alright explain
@MotionFilmz18 the earth in db is 916× bigger then our sun so the earth in db is solar system size and goku beat demon king who could destroy the earth and this was kid goku and goku survived attacks hotter then the sun didn't get scratches frieza namek sage is hyper level and ssj1 goku beat him and universal 7 is infinite in size and goku almost destroyed it in ssjg with 4 punches beat kid buu who been stated to have power to destroy the universe that's outer feat
And goku swim around the earth as a kid in 3 days that's thousands faster then light
@@issacclavelo6395 let ask one question can Goku survive a black hole and two Godzilla can tank just about anything Goku throws at him let alone kid
why don't you scale eva unit 01I mean you literaly have ray as your profile picture and I love neon genisis evongalion too.
Great video 🔥
BRO said let's make a new debate 💀💀💀
One of the best power scalers
so….. you didn’t mention super at all?
he made a video of Burning Godzilla vs MUI Goku
W channel and W video
Peak 🔥
Super Goku performs way better, if we include what you said as the highest for Z Goku. There's basically no chance for Heisei.
I made a sequel to this video on the channel with that exact concept. Be sure to check it out !
Loved the video dude, keep it up.
This video is wrong because you are using Buu saga Goku but if you're putting Goku at his prime or the newest part of Dragon Ball then that would mean Goku could easily swamp Godzilla because of ultra instinct goku or master ultra instinct goku but i like the video
He literally made two more videos of putting the same Godzilla up against Super Goku, GT Goku, and Xeno Goku
Comic Godzilla once just blew up the earth and tanked the blast. Like how freeze keeps doing
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Liked your video 👍🏾 the only think that you might have missed. Is that db universe is a macrococosm tha Kaioshin realm , transcends space and time so it would be like 5d.
Come on guys the angry lizard vs the crazy hair day dude fight isn’t even a debate we all know the Japanese one wins
Cool video, but goku at the end of z is multigalactic, hesie in my opinion is galaxy to multigalactic level. Goku wins mid to high diff, due to hax, more concrete speed scaling and battle iq
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Love Godzilla and dragon ball so this is nice
Didn't frieza survive a universal spirit bomb which goku said its from the universe
What about Dragon ball Fusion reborn
I would say,
Low ball:multiversal
Mid ball:5D
High ball:11D
He is 60D
Who?
Can you make a video of sonic versus Godzilla who would truly win you can use heisei or Showa Godzilla for this scenario
Wow, I didn't know Z Goku was this strong. Still needs to be dbs Goku tho
His abilities in the anime seem lackluster compared to what he can actually do. But the villians that he goes toe to toe with are the ones that have the planet and galaxy destruction/threat feats
Btw goku in his base form in dbs in 1 punch he can shake the entire multiverse becouse in his fight whic beerus he almost did destroy the universe 7 whic 7 microcosim inside whic are all stated to be infinite in size he shake the afterlife too and afterlife is 99% mass while our normal universe is 0,1% mass and 99,9% space while burning godzilla is highballed planetary
You make a compelling argument. And one thing you said was true but from a certain point of view. Yes Godzilla did kill Spacegodzilla BUT did he do it alone and Could he have won WITHOUT Moguera assistance?
By the end of the movie Godzilla blows up moguera with a single shot of his spiral ray so what help he did do probably wasn’t anything substantial think of it like when cyborg helps Superman split the mother boxes in the Justice league film
Goku would eventually die to radiation, he died to heart disease
Radiation isn’t gonna kill him
@@Crazyee8if a heart attack would kill him in the cell saga
so either its a lose lose, or a win for godzilla and a loss for goku
No goku negs
@@sator2766trunks said it wasn't a normal virus that it would kill a human instant
Goatku and Goatzilla solo fiction simple as that imo
Goatku and goatzilla would make the best fictional duo 💪💪
Goku vegeta better due but godzilla is good to
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Godzilla beat the crap out of super man💀
you know they are still realeasing more officail infomation in guidebooks for godzilla and that information can be used to wank godzilla even more and nic on 2k subs the algrithem likes you.
All of this doesn’t matter when you realize Goku has insane battle IQ if he realized he couldn’t beat Godzilla in a fight he probably just lift Godzilla up and throw him we know due to the show that super Saiyan three Goku could lift Heisei Godzilla as Heisei Godzilla weighs roughly 150,000 tons and super Saiyan three Goku can at least lift 160,000 tons and probably more.
goji bro you know that speed feat you give godzilla doesnt count at all because it was space godzilla that did that plus goku at ssj3 was just shaking the entire universe but everything around him so basically that a universe+ feat just by its self plus the spirit bomb goku uses at his full power at super saiyan when he defeat kid buu was state by the dragonball z manga could could destorying about the universe and the milky way aswell so basically that feat by itself is low muitiverse+
Godzilla vs yujiro make a video and prove everyone yujiro can’t win I’m just tired of yujiro fans saying he is going to crawl inside of Godzilla and kill him from inside I’m just to tired hearing that
But but YUJIROS DUH STRONGEST CREATURE ON EARTH THAT MEANS HES PLANET LEVEL AND GODZILLAS ONLY BUILDING LEVEL!!!
Yujiro gets folded by Kenshiro from fist of the north star
But also where do people actually say that shit? Yujiro at max wank is like city level with lightspeed attacks. And godzilla well the video speaks for itself
@@captaincringe9480in a video a man said yujiro would clap Godzilla and I commented saying that there’s no way and every last yujiro dick riders came and said if Godzilla goes thermal nuclear yujiro will tank it and kill Godzilla from the inside and I want the video to be made so they can see why yujiro can’t win
@@lm_8480he's a comic book batman victim
I had to stop when you said kid buu would upscale buuhon. I KNOW that one's just wrong, and I get to a degree why you did it, but it's just wrong. Whatever statements you made from that point of the video on were... Ugh, it's one of those situations where I hate how people scale certain aspects of goku. He is an absolute beast but kid buu was literally drop in power back to point goku could fight him. Ultimate gohan actually stronger than goku by a substantial margin at this point of the series and his power was a good 60% or so of what buuhan had going for him. Well that focused through the lens of piccolo's training and mind.
I don't doubt goku could destroy his universe at that point in time if he really tried, but I also ain't gonna give the video any more watch time once you pulled that. I was already kind of out of it because I prefer to go for conservative estimates of strength up until that point. For example how you used frieza's durability to scale goku's strength despite the fact one of Frieza's uniquely strong characteristics was raw durability and survivability or how you would say goku was already planetary using filler and completely ignoring that seemed to be the latter end of Vegeta's capabilities based on how hard he had to work to even attempt it but... The buuhan thing was unforgivable man.
If you are using z goku then you haft to consider the movies, meaning that super saiyan god, super sayain blue exist
Well it kind of depends on how many generations of heisei Godzilla you make as well as how much power you feed him
UC in his current state heisei Godzilla does have a limit because if you feed them too much energy to fast so just explode
But if you get a couple senzu beans and have him reload the heisei era a few times basically not exactly obviously needs to be scaled up every time and then after he finally goes burning Godzilla you allow his son to absorb is energy and get upscaled based on that then if you just keep on repeating that process with each generation of Godzilla theoretically Godzilla's power could go up infinitely forever
So it's just kind of based off of the scenario you use cuz then heisei Godzilla has current state he does have a limit even if it's an extremely high limit
Heisei godzilla doesn't actually have a limit to energy absorbtion, only the type of radiation. Its a common misconception that an overload of nuclear energy resulted in his burning form. Its stated in GvD that the his tansformation to burning godzilla was a result of the birth island explosion and the level of unrefined, natural uranium deposits godzilla absorbed. The Heisei godzilla relies on man made radiation sources to fuel his power, though the natural, uranuim sources resulted in his overload, not energy/radiation in general.
@@stupiduck2034 this is only semi true
You see burning Godzilla was a result of heisei Godzilla reaching his current energy absorption limit and then being pushed over it causing him to become burning Godzilla otherwise burning Godzilla would have never happened
(I am aware of the fact that SpaceGodzilla had absorbed infinite energy before coming to Earth and then after having his crystals destroyed lowering him to half then had his energy absorbed by Godzilla)
And of course half of infinity is still Infinity it's not as big of an Infiniti but it's still Infinity (after all when comparing infinity's you are able to place numbers and sizes on them as hard as it is to believe)
And even with the argument of the unspecified amount of uranium on the island that detonated and made Godzilla become burning Godzilla you have to remember that even if the whole island was made up of unstable uranium as densely packed as possible that would still be an infinitely higher amounts of radiation that he would have absorbed from space Godzilla who would have absorbed a seemingly infinite amount of power even if you forgo Infinity statements and just say that he absorbed a few Stars making him only solar system level this would still be a far greater amount of power than all of the uranium on Earth combined
Which suggests that the amount of energy Godzilla absorbed from space Godzilla put him to his limit and the amount of uranium in the island that exploded was the straw on the camel's back pushing Godzilla over the edge
Had Godzilla had time to adapt and wheeled this energy properly he would not have had to worry about that but of course he was not given such amount of time so he just exploded
Godzilla the goat of fiction and before anyone argues, tell me when goku gets an actual citizenship in japan
He does
2:41 Bruh I'm not even a dragon ball fan and I already now the fight would end right here
Godzilla is my favorite character ever but even I think this video is ridiculous
wdym goku always fought godzilla on his great ape form
whatchu talking about theres movies already
Godzilla pulsing with gamma radiation prettymuch scraps this entire argument...
Godzilla is about to fight superman in the comics rn
Could Godzilla absorb Ki cause that would change everything
7:46 C'mon man, we all see the word "like" in there, that plus the word "expansive" being in the next scan stops this from being some all time great feat. Plus, how would Piccolo know what that would be like in the first place? Not to mention, in our own seemingly endless expansive world supermassive black holes have collided and sent shook the universe as well, while not having anywhere the amount of solar masses present that are in one galaxy, let alone multiple.
Same with Goku hyping Buu and Cell hyping himself up. Those guys aren't credible sources for that.
I don’t remember any statements saying the dragon ball universe was infinite.
There are many
Theirs a lot
Yo, just saying the super Saiyan amp is MUCH higher than just 50, 100 or 400, and there are higher ends for the speed for Goku
are we using dbz or dbs?
Godzilla Heisei gets to the Golden Monkey .....loses to Jiren
Goku and Godzilla both have plot armour so nobody will really win or lose🤣
William Oscar garvin: 🤨Look, if Godzilla Dwarfs all of that stuff that goes with done, this will be a whole lot more than what goku has done, and that's a little obvious That's why you need to respect Godzilla a lot more than goku And what do you have to say about bad people? And what do you think about that?
Goku is too skilled too versatile and his small size would prove to be a big problem for any version godzilla.
Fax.
Idk how some can compare Goku with this lizard 🦎. This is getting out of hand
@rampfirejogernutdrive2115 goku negs
@@rampfirejogernutdrive2115 bro how can we compare a monke who cannot even solo his own verse vs a lizard who destroyd the author of his own verse
Like damn Godzilla negs any verse.
@@godzillaop6106 must be on sum stuff there buddy...go do some research.. proper one to...maby ur comic stands a chance but not the movie type Zilla...u know how many times he nearly died? So much for being powerful
Who are the 4 people who disliked this video? This shit is fire!
Yo if u want I can send u my Godzilla scans, they prove heisei being 11D or Outerversal
My disc is just Goji-Chronic so hmu and I’ll let you cook
@@Goji-Cit won’t work for me mine is just all lower case murphvsbattles
Heisei Godzilla is infinite 60D powers ♾️
big lizard go brrrrr
Spongebob still beats both of them as the same moment.
Nah Heisei Godzilla stomp SpongeBob and goku
People who dont know how to power scale Dragonball talk like an authority on the matter
I feel like heisei is very weird to scale for me, especially since this godzilla god melted at 2000 degrees celcius, but somehow managed to survive hotter.
@Goji-Chronic now could you do me and the fandom a favor an absolute solid ok???Go over to Death Battle and Tell them all this Goku Information or would this *still* not be enough to get a win over Kal-el???
it still wouldn’t be enough, Superman has hyperversal/outerversal scaling
@@mohitnair2541 so he's DC's god.
Can goku beat Superman but It’s main line Superman vs goku from dragon ball z,super & dragon ball heroes plus manga