Texas man describes confusion over how to treat wife's miscarriage: "Doctors feel scared"
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Texas radio host Ryan Hamilton says his wife was sent away from one hospital after the drugs to help treat her miscarriage didn't work. In Part 2 of our interview with him on "CBS Mornings," he tells us about driving to a second hospital to get help.
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the newscaster says he doesn’t wanna get too graphic. wrong, it should absolutely be made graphic exactly what women and families face!
Yes it should! Agree 100 %!
exactly!!! wake people up!!!!!
He didn't want want to say the word that rhymes with, shh..."lagina'. Why a medication being inserted into the medical term of a body part in a completely non-sexual way is considered too taboo to him, but talking about bleeding out is of no consequence, is weird. Female bodies are weirdly taboo to way too many people.
@@andromedaspark2241OMG you freaking nailed it! This is a huge part of why we are where we are right now: people not understanding the human body, the female reproductive system, and how it all functions. It's not a mystery, it's not a joke, it's not shameful or taboo, yet the entire country (or at least vast swaths of it) suddenly turn into middle school boys when it comes to frank, open, clear, scientific conversations about how bodies work! Then you throw insane right wing fundamentalist extremism into the mix and voila! - women dying and bleeding out in their damned bathrooms when an abortion would've prevented all that.
At the hands of lazy doctors
Politicians who did not attend medical school need to stay out of medical issues.
EXACTLY!!
I don’t think if you don’t have a uterus you should have absolutely no opinion on women’s health care and needs!😢
Religion should stay out of our government.
@@teamcougars I came from a uterus, therefore I do get an opinion
This is not a political problem. This is a doctor problem if they can’t understand one simple rule then how in the hell are they going to understand how to be a doctor?
They made that poor woman walk around with her dead baby inside of her? That is HORRIFYING. Loosing a child is already so hard the grief is enourmous, but this…this is torture. That poor poor mama. This is a good man speaking up, and so calmly. Praying for this family.
It's happening a lot in Texas. That's what the big class action lawsuit is about. They're like five or six women in the case who had very similar stories. At least one almost died from sepsis.
They're not even suing to get the law changed. They're literally just suing for clarification of the law. Because women who have miscarriages are being forced to go into septic shock because hospitals are too scared to intervene medically until they're like visibly noticeably sick.
It's because Texas in particular incentivize citizens to report doctors. Like you can sue them for I think it's $10,000 if you suspect they did an "illegal" abortion.
That's why it's so bad in Texas in particular. They're literally weaponizing citizens like it's 1984.
@@GreenVibezIguanaDaddyJesus would want women to die? To carry around their dead child around in their belly’s for weeks?
That's Texas for ya. I lived there in late 1990s, and a neighbour received the same standards of care as this poor woman.
Politicians have no business setting protocols for medical care.
Religion is exactly what's causing this issue!! And you want to PRAY for them??
It's going to take men speaking up to get anything done. Unfortunately, women's voices still mean nothing.
The legislators responsible for this should be sued for practicing medicine without a license, at the very least.
They were sued and the plaintiffs lost to the Texas Supreme Court. I’m so sick of these inane comments… “they should sue” Really? Ya they know? Wow, great idea! Gee wonder why no one else thought of it? 🤦🏻♀️
Politicians have NO business in between a doctor and a patient. PERIOD!
The same people who didn't understand how the internet works for "Cambridge Analytica" in Mark Zuckerberg's hearing are making OUR laws on medical practices. 😱🤧 United States' present and future is Fu/ /ked. Govt needs to know their place.
Neither do the Insurance Providers!! But it's not stopping them from dictating to our hospitalsand caregivers?
@@danab4337 Agree. That's because they are profit driven and don't have the oversight we need to protect us. Vote for people who will implement reform.
until the dr. screws up then everyone wants to government involved.... can't slice it both ways....if you think that then there would be no patient protections because the government would not be able to monitor the safety of patients or enact any health care laws....
With some exceptions. Like, say, ensuring that the physician actually went to med school (hence the licensing), as well as that they're up to date on anything that's changed since med school (hence the continuing education requirements of said licensing). Oh, and they would probably also ensure safety of drugs that can be prescribed, as, for an extreme example, I'm betting that cyanide and hemlock could likely produce a miscarriage as well as the safer, FDA approved meds... they'd come with some very very serious side effects and an absurdly high risk of death though. Also, ensuring that the medications actually contain the ingredients that claim to contain. There's probably more tangential stuff that I'm forgetting, but you get the general idea.
But yeah, beyond those basic safety things, agreed.
What an amazing advocate for his wife. This was an injustice, and I guarantee similar injustice is happening every day across the country.
it sure is
I'm going to credit him with ignorance about what TX abortion bans said, because he could have gotten his family out of TX long BEFORE any of them needed an abortifacient. He has a living daughter, he would do well to take this trauma to his wife as a warning and get his family out of TX now, BEFORE more of them get hurt by this abortion ban. When his wife is past menopause, and his daughters are all having lives of their own in a free state, then it will be safe for him and his wife to retire to their TX hometown again.
I want to see her medical records
@@cindylong624That’s illegal.
@@chrissnyder8108not everyone can just move out of state.
This very procedure saved my life, and made our child possible.
Sepsis is terrifying enough without being told to wait for it to happen.
My biggest love to this family.
They aren’t “confused” they’re terrified.
They are too scared to make a decision. It's goes to show 'if u walk in fear u will make a decision based on fear but if u have clarity then u have no reason to fear. These hospitals and doctors are so afraid of getting sued that they do not operate with discernment. It's very sad this has happened but pulling a baby with no heartbeat out of the womb is a medical emergency... someone didn't interpret correctly is all I'm saying.
Legislators are not doctors. Your Preacher is not a doctor. These laws are causing unnecessary trauma. She could have bled out.
So much for separation of church and state 🤦🏼♀️
well said.
Someone else's beliefs should dictate another's medical care
Another's beliefs shouldn't dictate someones medical care.
@@lizcollinson2692 exactly!
Crazy!! 25 years ago I had an ectopic pregnancy. The doctor said he thought I should wait and see if the embryo moved into the correct place. Being young and uninformed, I actually thought that could happen. I should have immediately been admitted to the hospital and had it removed. Instead a week later it ruptured (without me knowing) and hours later I was taken to the emergency room almost unconscious. The hospital had to perform emergency surgery. I almost died. Listening to this man's story breaks my heart. He and his wife were already suffering because of the loss of the pregnancy. Now he was about to lose the life of his wife and his 9month old child's mother. This is ridiculous. This has nothing to do with religious beliefs. This has to do with proper care for women. Let's not go backwards in women's health care.
I can’t imagine how you suffered. You could have bled to death!
What’s happening these days is inhumane.
Men better prepare themselves to raise their children alone.
Statistically a high percentage of women died during childbirth which is why most men in the past had multiple wives. This practice still happens in Arab countries…
Correct. I had 2. The first one was caught in a routine visit. The 2nd one erupted. That was 21 years ago. Glad I did not have your doctor & I asked that question on the 1st one. I had no clue either. The docs and nurses said no for that reason & more.
He certainly was soooo concerned he left his wife alone knowing she was given medication to start the process. I also know of cases that the mother has been told there is no heartbeat and it wasn't it. I was one of those woman who 7 month later had a wonderful baby boy thankfully the doctor told me to go home until my body started the process and did not give me medicine; my mother who was a nurse told me she had seen this happen on many occasions where woman were being prep for a D&C and it was called off when a heartbeat was found. As a doctor your damned if you do or damned if you don't.
@@houston5568Another made up story.
Finally! Finally, the news is interviewing the fathers of these babies and letting their voices be heard. And they should be allowed to tell every gory detail of what their partner went through because of Texas law. I can't believe it has taken this long for someone to interview the men. Men listen to men.
This is so true 😢
I’m sure it has something to do with the wife who is apparently still bleeding at home!
I'd rather men listen to women instead of waiting until it affects other men to care.
I am so proud of this man for calmly expressing his fears and intense emotions for the world to see. You could see on his face what so many men and women go through in silence. ❤
And ppl wonder why we women arent having babies anymore…Im also a nurse - and I know that hospitals do NOT do well with grey areas.
My wife has been talking about wanting children. We've had countless, serious conversations about the state of politics on this topic. So far, we've opted out of having children. Until something changes, I'm not putting my wife in danger because of the archaic stupidity these people are pushing that are costing the lives of women.
Lawyers > Doctors
@@nobodysbusiness3533 Well then you will be childless; there is always something going on about health that people don't like.
@houston5568 yeah, and people will make Choices based on what's best for them. It's really no one's business why or why not people decide to have children. Your comment was snarky and unnecessary.
🎯 Risk aversion informed by lawyers and $$$ NOT physicians/healthcare professionals....and only devaluing lives of girls and women.
This is what we women have been fighting for for. Our right to healthcare to save our lives
Exactly. We just want to live. We just want our lives and well-being to be treated with the same level of respect as a man's would be. But because of all the sexism, we can't even get people to respect us enough to call us Ms. instead of Mrs. or Miss.
really what percentage of women need an abortion to save their life? Approximately 60,000 women had health based need for an abortion in 2023. There were 3,591,238 babies born in 2023. With only .017 percent of women in need of a health related abortion the constant push to make all abortions legal is nonsense. It is time for women to be held accountable for using abortion as a method of birth control... abortion is not birth control... most states have laws in place to save the mother's life by abortion if necessary... it may not be handled in a manner that people accept but it is still available
Then fight for 'Healthcare" and not for 'Abortion'.
@@susanlbkbe quiet Susan
I'm in upstate ny I been to one rally...I don't see us fighting for our rights but I wish we would I'm gonna start a rally myself here in Rochester N.Y.
Tragic. Cruel and inhumane treatment by a hospital during a womans most vulnerable health crisis.
State legislated cruelty
Not a hospital, the fault is in the Supreme Court that was set up to vote the way they did, and the religious right that created this moment in time. Shame on them for forcing us 100 years back.
Those medical staff were cruel
Do the doctors and nurses at this hospital want to be sued by the state and have their licenses revoked? I don’t think so
@@amethystflower8799this is what you pro lifers wanted 😂
The anger when he says the words, "Thank God you brought her," is so real. Medical professionals kept turning her away, abandoning her to whatever was to happen to her, then acted like the result was such a shock. Sure, it wasn't the same individuals, but it was the same system responding in fear to the law, when people's lives are at stake. A miscarriage is hard enough; this couple's grief should not have been compounded by state cruelty and the near death of the mother. I wish this couple a path to healing after the harm that's been done to them.
More men, like him, need to speak up! A reminder that an abortion ban doesn't just affect women.
But why are women's words not enough?!?!
@@katiecurtis9730Because words alone aren't enough to change anything that's why. And not all women feel the exact same way about women's reproductive health collectively so maybe they're only listening to those that feel a certain way about it.
@@katiecurtis9730There’s more female voters than there are male voters in Texas, so statistically women have the voting majority in Texas and can drive policing decisions if they wanted. Sorry but there’s no patriarchy here…
@@katiecurtis9730They should be. But clearly they are not.
@@katiecurtis9730 we know why..
This is insanity! This is pro-life?!?! There is so much hypocrisy and danger behind these decisions made by, primarily, ignorant men. Thank you to this gentleman for sharing this story, and sincere sympathies to his wife and to him.
💯
All in an effort for mothers who otherwise didn't feel they were in a position to be a mother can be forced into having an unwanted child or a child they aren't in a position to care for.
@@JackieDaytona1776 Yes, and then god forbid that child has any special needs, really any needs at all ... or is gay....many lawmakers won't want anything to do with them then. This is a tragedy. I keep hoping we will wake up from this nightmare.
@lhh45123 I am literally a Catholic Republican and I 100% agree with you - the best way for Republicans to reduce abortions (let's get real...they'll never be eliminated) would be to provide sexual education and resource, and improve the quality of life for the lower class. If someone is not in a position to have a child, the government can only increase the likelihood they won't be in that position. Access to contraception, rights for women with their body, etc. I don't anticipate ever needing an abortion because personally, I do believe life begins at conception, but I'm also practical enough to know just because my faith suggests that doesn't mean that's equivalent to being a citizen with an issued birth certificate and social security number. Let's just be practical here. And God forbid I am in a position where I do need one for my health or the babies or whatever - I'll be DAMNED if the government tells me what I can or can't do with my body.
No one is forcing you to live in Texas…
The ER took her until she showed signs of dying. Wow.
She and the baby deserved the dignity of help in the hospital vs in the bathroom toilet. She has a solid case, no heartbeat. That hospital got off easy and deserves to be named.
The legislators who made an abortion law with no exceptions for saving a mother's health deserve to be sued for her suffering, not the doctors and hospitals, whom the abortion bans have made into presumptive defendants accused of murdering fetuses. The hospitals have to interpret those laws defensively, or they will be bankrupted by frivolous abortion lawsuits and their whole region of patients will be suffering and dying from lack of care, not just the pregnant women.
@@chrissnyder8108 it was clear there was no heartbeat and the law stated they could and they didn’t. I would think it’s a longer reach to hold the legislators accountable, though warranted. Some states have made the laws written to confuse, so these things happen.
@@missmustache4207 The abortion bans without an exemption for the health of a mother or for instances where the fetus is already dead are not ambiguous, because they clearly lay out the punishments that can be visited upon medical providers if they provide abortion care BEFORE the mother's death is eminent. If those same laws couldn't be bothered to state that abortions can be given when doing so would not affect the fetus chance of survival (because it was already dead or doomed), than it is probably because lawmakers would like the option to hit back at abortion providers who act in these situations where the mother's health is at risk, and the hospital lawyers see no reason to to believe those lawmakers when they say "just trust us, we would never sue you for conducting an abortion on an already dead fetus just because the mom is still healthy". Because those same lawmakers also said "we would never seek to punish a mother for miscarrying" then in OH a woman who miscarried at home after being turned away from the hospital 3 times got charged with "mishandling a corpse" when she showed up at the ER near death after miscarrying at home in her toilet and having to plunge out the toilet so it would work again and bury the bloody mess in her backyard when she could barely walk from loss of blood. The forced birth people who wrote these abortion bans have no sympathy for pregnant women with complications or for the medical providers who want to give them the care they desperately need, because they have spent years demonizing them as "baby killers" and they are not going to stop now that they have their abortion bans in place.
@@chrissnyder8108 so let me get this correct. They weren’t allowed to do the d and c because it was past 6 weeks? Even though the baby had no heart beat? The mother would have to be near d3ath for them to help her?
@@chrissnyder8108 I feel like anyone or any family that wants to have a baby need to leave texas, if anything goes wrong your life is at jeopardy
My spouse and I just left Texas because we decided to start a family. How anyone feels comfortable getting pregnant as a Texas resident, I’ll never understand. If anything goes wrong you will not be okay. You will not be okay.
Unfortunately, I think the majority of people can’t afford to pick up and move. I’m glad you were able to, but it’s just not an option for most.
@IMJwhoRU That's when as adults we need to make the best decision with the cards are dealt. There are bc options that can be used which is cheaper than moving. I'm not saying mistakes don't happen but prevention should be stressed more if you can't financially move.
Don't come back
@@Texass117such an ugly and petty thought. I hope that if ever you are in a situation where you require empathy and compassion as you seem to not be showing this person, that you finally see the error of your thought process and that you learn the lesson that you so clearly do not know now! Good luck!
I think a lot of women, and men, don’t think something like this will happen to them or their wives. They think they’re the exception, which is why they vote the way they do. But many are starting to see the harm they’ve done, albeit, too late.
Unnecessary harm and trauma for no reason.
It's no fun to live under fundamentalist's rules
you'd think he'd look at his baby girl oj the back seat and decide to vote blue
And now they are trying to deny contraception…
To deny contraception (prior to conception) is ridiculous. There are so many options now to prevent unwanted pregnancies that didn’t exist when I was growing up. Contraception saves potential babies’ lives from occurring in the first place; abortion kills babies.
sick!!!!!
This is infuriating. I miscarried a much wanted baby. But my experience afterwards was much different. My high risk doctor confirmed there was no heart beat. He confirmed I had already lost a very large amount of blood. I was immediately brought in for a D&C.
At that point it was not about the baby, the baby was already gone and not alive. At that point it was shifted to helping me. Which is how it should be.
Yeah, sounds a lot like my miscarriage at 12 weeks. I hemorrhaged 2/3 of my total blood volume, and nearly lost my uterus. If the abortion laws weren’t in place I would have died, leaving my 3 small children and husband without me. This is a logical consequence of letting ignorant lawmakers interfere in medicine. They don’t know what they’re doing and the penalties are so severe that no hospital or doctor will risk losing their liberty or license to practice. It’s a predictable travesty. We knew women would die over this insanity of valuing a fetus over the person carrying it.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. It must have been really scary and painful. I'm so glad you were able to get the care you needed before it was too late.
@@whateverlolawants thanks, I was lucky it happened before a rogue SCOTUS upended a half century of settled law to enact the religious agenda of some members. I will never live in or travel to a state where women are treated this way, for my own safety and that of my daughter. These lawmakers are playing god with no real understanding of women’s anatomy or what happens when pregnancies have complications (very common). Anyway, I have empathy for all the young women who are stuck in places with such badly written laws. And they are intentionally written to be vague for just this reason: to use fear to prevent doctors from treating crisis pregnancies with D&Cs, because they are too ignorant to know that you can’t save a pregnancy or a fetus when the body is rejecting it before the point of viability.
People are being absolutely awful and deplorable to him and his family on Twitter. They're so brave sharing their horrendous ordeal.
They aren't called Deplorables for nothing.
I pray they stay strong and continue to share their story.
Sending prayers to this family - you are right to share this for awareness
I don’t understand why people are being awful to them. It makes no sense in the face of this loss and trauma. I’m not from the US, am I missing something here.
Because, with Musk's stewardship, Twitter has become a right-wing hellhole
I wish I could speak to this couple so badly right now... I went through the exact same thing in 2003 except I had been to 5 different emergency rooms over the course of a couple weeks and turned away 4 out of those 5 visits. I had the same internal ultrasounds and exams while not only bleeding profusely but also being in extreme pain. I was told the exact same thing every time, "it will pass on it's own". I was a newlywed and my husband was active duty military. I was on week 3-4 of hemorrhaging and I was starting to pass out so we decided to drive just over an hour with one last ditch effort try. We were both crying as we walked through the doors, he was holding me up and I began to pass out so we were quickly ushered into a room and again, given the same exams except this time with a semi-answered solution. Being that we were military they had to send me to the local naval hospital and it was by appointment first thing the next morning. We got there and they took me into the exam room performing those invasive exams yet AGAIN but this time, right in the middle of it they began prepping me for an emergency d&c stating that I was going to "bleed out" and possibly go "septic" from the fetus being retained for so long. I am so sorry you are having to experience this. I suggest if you are able to, take her out of state to the nearest trauma receiving hospital. I feel your pain and sorrow deeply and wish there was something I could do more than just offer up this piece of mutual suffering and hopefully some good advice that will work. 🙏
Unfortunately, many people in the US are now many hundreds of miles away from a state where doctors are not hampered by anti-abortion laws that make it risky to provide the care that is best for the pregnant person.
@@JaniceLHz True but each state has different standards of care and this needs to be treated immediately as a healthcare emergency that has nothing to do with a fetus.
@christilayne81
I agree that it needs to be treated immediately.
I was pointing out because now so many adjacent states have laws punishing almost anything that terminates a pregnancy, it could be difficult, expensive, and take a long time to get to a place where the doctors _can_ provide the proper urgently needed treatment. Just getting out of state is not enough - it has to be to a state without such laws.
(If I had any possibility of being pregnant, I would go to great lengths to stay out of that whole part of the country until the pregnancy was over. Sadly, tgat is difficult or basically impossible for many people.)
That is positively medieval.
DOCTORS following LAWS made up by POLITICIANS _without_ MEDICAL DEGREES (and some without much more than a damn HS diploma) smh
Even journalists know to defer to a doctor's expertise for just a conversation about miscarriages and abortions. But lawmakers think they know better than doctors and won't allow these conversations to be deferred to qualified and licensed professionals. This is an evil against women and a violation to their freedom of religion.
He should sue the state of TX for passing such asinine laws.
This very issue was brought before the Texas Supreme Court just in the last couple weeks. A class action brought by 20 Texas women in very similar circumstances was rejected by the Texas Supreme Court.
Texas hates women.
Ken Paxton will block the suit.
Ken Paxton is a criminal! He needs to be held accountable for his numerous crimes. Seems like the red states are full of political criminals running loose.
He can't. The right wing Supreme Court gave the state of Texas, FL, SC and all these other red states to be as cruel as they wanted to be declaring that it was a states right issue.
While Ken Paxton was hanging out with the housewives of Mar-A-Lago. Truly. There is a photo of that.
As a Christian who recently had a miscarriage, I feel deeply for people in TX. I couldn’t imagine going through what she went through! My husband would have lit that hospital on fire (figuratively). But seriously, you MUST treat the patient. Mama’s health must come first as she is the patient.
And if the hospital treats women BEFORE they are at death's door in a state with an abortion ban with no exception for anything but saving the life of the mother, the hospital can then be bankrupted and put out of business by lawsuits for violating the abortion ban, because the woman was not dying yet. And then their region the hospital serves has no hospital, and the whole area will suffer and die from lack of prompt care, not just the pregnant women. This is not how the hospitals want to be serving pregnant women, they are forced into it by bad legislation. Stop blaming the hospitals and doctors, and alter the legislation to have some sensible exceptions that reflect reality!
I work in healthcare. Intervention should have been made Sooners It’s also a legislative problem in addition to.
@@enjoywarmwinters I agree, the moment a woman is showing no fetal heartbeat after having been pregnant, she should be diagnosed as having miscarried, and should be helped to empty her womb in the hospital to preserve her health and fertility, but the abortion ban as written would jeopardize the existence of hospitals if they did that. So the law needs to be changed so it doesn't make doctors and hospitals have to choose between offering the best standard of care for pregnant patients and staying in business. It would have been easy to do by adding a few common sense exemptions that the doctors said were needed, but the legislators preferred to be "purists" and to demonize women and the medical establishment instead and to try to punish them. Now they blame them for acting defensively, when it is they who failed to show a whit of sympathy for miscarrying pregnant women when they wrote the laws. The situation is not going to change for the better in the forced birth states until they change their laws, because the lawmakers have created an existential crisis for medical providers where they can not do what is best for women and be assured of continuing to practice medicine.
I'm from Texas, and agree we're the worst. Feel for the man and his wife.
I had a devastating 14 week miscarriage in a hospital...i cant even fathom this level of horror
I’m so sorry ❤
This was horrendous to listen to and watch. Nobody should have to go through what that woman went through, and her husband. They both did not deserve that outcome.
I'm 46 now, when I was 21 living in London (im Australian) where I still live I scheduled a termination. I was told it was not required as I was in the process of a miscarriage. I woke up in severe pain, called home crying and had to go to hospital to have the foetus removed with alligator clips. There are so many things that can go wrong, require medical intervention, inutero complications like organs don't grow correctly, bones don't connect, abnormalities appear post 12 weeks. These politicians who have zero medical knowledge legislating based on religious beliefs is outrageous. It has to stop
So sorry for your loss
i had one at 17 in the emergency room. They didn't do anything and i went back after i was released with a high fever, cause i almost died of sepsis!! the medication didn't work I had to get a D&C.
Their 9 yr old daughter watched her mother go through this. This is the kind of trauma that causes women to decide to not have kids.
EDIT: i misheard the daughter’s age. She was 9 MONTHS OLD. But there are many young girls AND BOYS right now that watching their moms endure this medical torture.
You probably don’t have love in your life.
their kid was only 9 months old.
@@DeAnnaG_KissingFrogsMedia ….. oh snap. I totally heard 9yrs old. Thanks for correcting me.
@@Monarchbutterfly3yeah sure blame the woman. This shows pro life is anti choice and anti freedom. Basically you want women to be forced to give birth. Which is why a 10 year old had to fly eto another state to get an abrtion
This kind of stuff does encourage young women not to have kids. They arent going to be willing to die to give birth.
What happened to this family is unacceptable. Vote blue for women’s rights.
I absolutely agree with your comment. What year are we in 2024 and any woman having to go through this is absolutely disturbing and upsetting. We must vote blue to stop these horrible attacks towards women our rights and freedom.
@@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj and Republican who women truly disagree but are afraid to say si in front of their husband. He can’t go with you behind the curtain in the voting booth 💙💙💙
@@marydone6501 100% agree with you. We have no choice but to vote accordingly this election year because women's rights and freedoms are definitely under attack.
Unfortunately Americans will vote against their own interests in order to maintain the status quo.... we all know what that is...✌🏾
@marydone6501 There is going to be a HUGE backlash in November and a HUGE blue wave. Women have seen all these horror stories on TV and heard about what friends in red states are going through-its become unsafe to be pregnant in red states. 330,000 Republicans, mostly women, came out to vote 'yes' to enshrining abortion rights into the ruby red Kansas constitution. Republicans have jumped the shark on this. #voteblue
This story made me cry. I was terrified that she was going to die. I’m so glad that she is alive. My heart goes out to that family.
It’s not about babies, it’s about control. Controlling women. Period.
THIS👏🏾!!!!!!!😡
Yes this is Salem 2.0, which wasn’t about witches but about controlling women and abortions.
Yes!!!!
Absolutely
People. Controlling PEOPLE!
So glad he's speaking out. I'm feeling like a man might have more of a chance to be listened to and to change people's minds
Perhaps, but it is sad that years of healthcare professionals, healthcare professional orgs and women themselves are NOT listened to or given such little consideration.
Yes, men please support us! This affects your mothers, wives and daughters and the overall health of your family.
And how F’d Up is that?!!
We support you this is a horrific issue that affects us all
Sad, but true. We need men to speak up. It has a different impact.
This is another heartbreaking story of how women's healthcare is on the line. This should have never happened.
Miscarriages are common, and to not be able to have a D&C is cruel. I absolutely know what it feels like to have a doctor tell you in the ER there is no heartbeat 😢. Me and hubby were crushed!
I'm so sorry
I hemorrhaged after my losses. I almost died during the second loss because it was a ‘missed’ miscarriage, ie the baby was out but placenta remained attached. My body used blood to try to ‘wash’ it out. I had an emergency D&C surgery at 2:00 am to save my life. What could have happened to me had I lived in Texas? Medical decisions should never be made by politicians.
if you had a good hospital they should have seen the baby is not in you, and saw you were having an emergency and helped you...... I get your upset, but this case was clearly hospitals being stupid about a clearly cut and dry case of dead baby and acting like it was still alive and therefore couldn't help. Doesn't take 2 brain cells to figure that one out, but some hospitals are treading in the grey area and being stupid. TYPICAL hospital behavior.
My miscarriage experience was incredibly similar. Absolutely frightening. America- we MUST do better by our females. THEY ARE WORTHY OF CARE DECIDED UPON BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS; NOT BY MEN IN SUITS WITHOUT A UTERUS!
Can I ask what the purpose of this question is to a person sharing about a scary situation they suffered without need?
@@relaxdream9626 female is a female, of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs.
There is not controversy about this, it is what the definitions of girl and woman are based upon.
Infant and adult female respectively.
@@czhusky anyone can self-identify as a female
@@relaxdream9626the subject is about miscarriage, don't be stupid
@@CuriousRockAren't there women who couldn't have a miscarriage because they don't have a uterus tho?
I'm glad he spoke up. He's a man, for speaking up for his wife and himself.
Texas says a fetus is a child! Then why can’t a pregnant woman get a tax credit on their income tax!! The State can’t have it both ways!!
He is right. As a high risk Obstetrician these laws are vague for a reason....to make doctors scared to provide the appropriate care that women deserve. They don't care about the trauma that women face undergoing an ultrasound for a second, third, or fourth time to be told that their child is dead. They don't care.....they don't care.
Vote them out!!!
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He should sue every politician who passed this law.
I’m not into suing unnecessarily, but I want them to sue the hospitals.
Sue the SCOTUS!!!! SUE THE GOP & THEIR CONTINUED WAR ON WOMEN!
@@MsJennaBuchanan it is not the hospitals; they want to save lives, but the way the abortion bans are written in TX and other states, they are not allowed to help a woman complete her miscarriage until she is in immediate danger of dying, because the bans make no exceptions for preserving a mothers health, or for a fetus that is already dead. If the hospitals act immediately to save a woman suffering, they could be forced out of business by the forced birthers who will sue them for violating the abortion ban, and then it will be a whole community of people dying from lack of medical care, not just a few pregnant women whom they didn't treat in time. It is the members of the TX legislature who should be sued for writing their law in such a way as to cause predictable unnecessary suffering and death to pregnant women.
Wow, what a fresh new idea that no one else has thought of. Good thing you came along.
There is a lawsuit
This needs to be shared with every other media outlet and played over and over and over! This family has been traumatized and the state of Texas did it.
CONGRATULATIONS REPUBLICANS!
THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED!
You must be so proud of yourselves.
Maybe if men start being the ones to make noise and voice complaints about how the laws against women are hurting men...THEN maybe male lawmakers will listen and let doctors make make medical decisions with women in peace.
This! Because at this point, they're not listening to us.
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men can get pregnant too!
@@cindylong624 the Texan government will never listen to those men unfortunately
@@HunterLvyiXIIIexactly
My heart goes out to his wife, to him and their family. This is absolutely horrific.
A Missouri doctor has suggested that the prosecutor's office has someone on call 24/7. A doctor should be able to have someone to come immediately and tell the doctor what is and is not legal medical care. Republicans want to put doctors in prison for following general standards of care. Soon, a pregnant woman won't be able to get any medical care at all, because doctors will be afraid that any treatment, even for a broken bone, might be considered as endangering the fetus.
I suffered from a miscarriage recently which I documented on my channel. It's horrific, and I'm sorry to hear of their suffering. It's good he spoke out!!
I'm sorry for your loss & thank you for your courage in sharing your story.
I would sue the hospital and the state of Texas. I would also be moving out of the state of Texas.
Please do, and don't come back
When the most devious and corrupt AG in the country is Ken Paxton and the TX Supreme Court is completely biased this is an extreme uphill battle. Their legal/judicial "norms" are NOT like majority of rest of country and certainly NOT a democracy increasingly.
@@Texass117 Only crazies would want to live in Gilead.
I DID take my daughter and move 2500 miles North! Never going back to Texas.
@@Texass117So you're okay with this? You're okay with women dying from miscarriages in order to get an abortion? Cuz that is what your state is doing.
My mother had a D & C after menopause. It is not just for abortion procedures.
I also had one when I was 20, to remove extraneous uterine scar tissue after my first c-section.
I guess every pregnant woman needs a bug-out plan if she lives in Texas. Either that or move. Fetuses die all of the time, and it's extremely dangerous. This woman still needs a D&C to stop the bleeding. They should definitely go to a state where they can get the proper care.
Why would he not sue the doctors or hospitals? Like what? They sent her home with a dead baby inside her when they had the legal ability to do the D&C procedure.
Right? Even if they hold no malice or ill will towards the medical professionals, it could galvanize a movement to reverse these laws. I also understand that there’s no way he’d ever want to put his wife through any type of cross examination in court to relive this horror.
Hospitals and medical professionals Have to follow the law. If you are looking for someone to blame, sue the lawmakers for illegally practicing medicine.
The hospitals don't have the legal ability to do a D&C procedure until the woman is at deaths door, because the abortion ban has no exception for saving the health of a woman, nor for when a fetus is already dead, only for saving the life of a woman. That means unless the woman is actively in danger of dying, the hospital is not safe to conduct any abortion procedures; they could get sued for violating the ban and bankrupted, and then all of their patients would be suffering from lack of medical care, not just the pregnant women. If you want hospitals to act to save women when there is the first signs of an incomplete miscarriage or a life-threatening complication like an ectopic pregancy, get the legislators to add exemptions to their legislation for saving the health of women, not just their lives, or at least for situations in which the fetus can not be saved and born alive no matter what the doctors do.
Lawsuits are expensive, stressful, and take a long time. I understand them conserving their energy to focus on caring for the wife & child.
My "way too proud of Texas" husband refused to move back to his home state with his wife and 2 daughters, after he got out of the military, because of this. Texas lawmakers are killing women.
Thank you to your husband for his service, & giving a damn about the females in his life that he loves.
Well yeah. No sane person should be proud of a state that is trying to make every father a widower. That is literally every dad's worst nightmare.
The way they wrote the law "administrative penalties include the mandatory revocation of a medical, nursing, or pharmacy license. The statute also allows the Texas attorney general to seek a civil penalty of not less than $100,000, plus attorney’s fees and costs." They guaranteed that doctors would not do this out of fear that they would be aiding and abetting an abortion. And the TX Supreme Court just said they aren't going to make any changes to the law and that it's plenty clear. Long story short, it is unsafe for a woman to be pregnant in TX. If anything goes wrong, which happens all of the time in pregnancies, your wife, girlfriend, mom or sister has fewer options than if she was in a sane state.
There is a difference between having a miscarriage and having an abortion.
@@houston5568 I see. So they just need to investigate the thoughts and actions of every pregnant woman to make sure it’s a miscarriage and not an abortion. How else could you know?
@@houston5568 according to medicine - no, there is not. A miscarriage is classified as a spontaneous abortion.
@@houston5568 The procedure to remove the fetus -- alive or not -- is called abortion. Abortion is the name of a procedure. It's the SAME PROCEDURE. Don't get that confused. It terminates the pregnancy. That's all the procedure does. She is still considered pregnant whether the fetus is alive or not it is still in her. The lawmakers are stupid. The public believed their misinformation campaigns.
I think even if the doctors did have confidence that they are following the law they have a crazy and unreasonable AG to be afraid of.
He's not going to sue the hospitals, but he should sue the politicians that created this nightmare.
He should sue the politicians? What a fresh new take🤦🏻♀️
The issue is with TX law! The recent abortion law passed by the TX Legislature has been appealed multiple times up to TXSCOTUS. Each time TXSCOTUS has affirmed that neither a dead fetus nor non-viable pregnancy are enough to intervene medically with abortion care (medical or otherwise), even for doctors seeking clarification of the law (latest ruling). A disgrace!
Listen to this mans voice at the 3 min mark. If you have no empathy your soul has left your body. Insane to the nth degree
Dear fellows, a D&C may be needed when a woman is NOT (!!!!) pregnant -- when there is NO zygote or fetus -- but also when she has heavy bleeding, causing anemia.
Handing out medication is not the same as medical care.
My sons wife just went through this. The fetus had no heartbeat. The doctors gave her that medication and sent her home. The next 2 days she started hemorrhaging in her bathroom as well. We had to rush her to the hospital by ambulance . where she was treated for 4 days in the intensive Care unit from loss of blood. Its been a couple months now and she still can't get her iron levels back up.
Get out of texas NOW!! ANYONE & EVERYONE who intends to have a family in texas - move out.
Anyone who is a person should leave at this point....
Not an option for many reasons for many.
Yes. Please leave 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
And my elderly parents, friends, people I care about and a job I love? Why should we leave and the f&@king laws not change? We have tried abortion bans in the US before. They’re always overreacting into private lives, confusion over who is allowed abortion care always happens.
@@JanefleesTexasthe laws should change, but Texas isn't a place for people. If you can, get out. I'm sorry you're stuck there. If Texas was a country, pregnant women could apply for asylum elsewhere at this point.
This is your GOP 👏
And with the GOP, cruelty is the point. Vote Blue.
exactly.
In the meantime they are getting NOTHING else done. Just destroying womens human rights.
Exactly. Vote Blue.💙
I would sue the F out of them. This madness needs to stop NOW! My mom had three miscarriages when i was young and i vividly remember how much she was traumatized by them. I can't imagine her having to go through this.
What person allowed her not to be treated when there is no fetal heartbeat !!
Texas law made sure she wasn't treated
Texas Republican politicians.
Lawyers
TX has a crazy AG who will go after anybody. They were right to be afraid. .
Greg Abbott
This infuriates me so much. Putting a woman's life at risk only for pro-life reasons.
Pro-birth. The same people care nothing for life, as once a child is outside the womb, you better not take taxes from these people to feed or give healthcare to them (to keep them alive).
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I volunteered at two Womens clinics in Pensacola, FL years ago when I lived there. Doctors had to be flown in once a week on procedure day. The clinics had to have bulletproof windows, one of the clinics had been bombed before and rebuilt. Off duty Police Officers had to work security and a doctor at each clinis still got unalived, also an escort and another escort shot. There were disgusting protesters yelling inaccurate information, holding inaccurate posters and saying horrible things to the patents. They also filmed them. They also told me, an escort I better have on my bulletproof vest multiple times, that my family hated me for "allowing" me to help protect the patients from those crazies. They followed me home and to work. I was around 21 and worked at the mall. They would come into my store just to glare at me and give me dirty looks or stand outside my store and do it. At one of the clinics we were offered bulletproof vests, at both clinics we had to wear construction like vests that said "clinic escort" on them. So many of the patients were afraid to walk from their car thru the protesters. It was so upsetting. The parking lots were not attached to the buildings. Escorts were not supposed to leave the clinic but I always did. The police even told me it was not a good idea. I always brought an umbrella to try to shield the patients and tried to comfort them. I also told them if they wanted to hear what the protesters wanted to say they could. Only one did. It was truly terrible how these self righteous, Christians treated people! The patients were not going in for a procedure for fun. A lot of them were married couples, girlfriends and boyfriends not the "type" of person the Republicans paint them out to be. They all had made a very hard decision.
PLEASE DO NOT CALL THOSE PEOPLE PRO LIFE! THEY ARE ANTI CHOICE! PRO LIFE IMPLIES PRO CHOICE INDIVIDUALS ARE PRO DEATH! PRO CHOICE MEANS YOU WANT WOMEN TO MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THEMSELVES. THEY CAN BE PERSONALLY AGAINST IT FOR THEMSELVES BUT REALIZE NO ONE SHOULD TELL ANYONE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO WITH THEIR OWN BODY. MANY PRO LIFE PEOPLE DON'T THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRO CHOICE AND PRO LIFE.
According to the video, the mother's life was not at risk. Had it been, the law allows for it. Some miscarriages take awhile to pass the baby, but it does occur. I have 8 children and two miscarriages. From this video, nothing was done wrong...unless there is more to the story.
The law is written so badly that the person has to be actively dying before she can get help.....that was done on purpose to scare doctors into not treating patients. There really is no exception. It is disgusting that even when they know she will eventually get sepsis they have to wait till she does to treat her. They could do something before she is that serious but abbott and paxton and the anti abortion crowd demand that she be allowed to come close to death before treatment can be had
@johnsonfamilyhomeschool675 good for you with your 8 kids and 2 easy miscarriages , but you missed the point here.
*They are making it as difficult and painful as possible rather than a quick and painless procedure.They are making NO DISTINCTION between the procedures and acknowledging the woman can die from NOT removing the dead tissue.*
Men we need you all to assist us in speaking out on this!! You all need to denounce these practices!! More women will be in danger of losing their lives, their fertility or other major organ damage! This is outrageous!!
I can't even imagine the pain this poor woman had to endure.
Trump and the GOP are directly responsible. Medical decisions should be between doctor and patient, without government interference.
Yet during Covid, for GoP the mantra was let everyone decide for themselves. The issue is American culture and the adherence to religious ideology in government public office causing a hypocrisy and not representing the American citizens.
Trump??
Absolutely SHAMEFUL that we as a country have fallen so low.
I had a miscarriage in November, my baby was dying inside me. The doctors wouldn’t do a thing for me! I kept complaining! I went home after an appointment and miscarried at home alone. I made it to the toilet, blood was everywhere. I made it back to my bed and literally passed out
This country has gone to the wolves. So incredibly sad.
Well, Trump does admit that we've gone to hell. He just won't accept responsibility for taking us there.
They voted for these people in office and now it’s back firing.
We need to get it back!
If Trump gets elected these problems right now will be the least of your problems
My heart is absolutely broken.
As a woman I would never even get pregnant in a red state at this point.
And that is why they are coming for contraception next. So disheartening.
If I still had a uterus at all I would move out of my state.
I hear you. I would add that for some women pregnancy is utterly unavoidable (ie in the case of non-consensual violence) so even if a woman tried to take extreme measures like total celibacy, it could still happen against her will.
Not at all anywhere
I would never have kids in a country such as this, that hates women and families to the point that this family had to go through this horror. You never think it will happen to you...until it does. I hope that he and his family find their strength and hold these monsters accountable.
Vote for women’s rights to quality healthcare in November
Take the Politicians, and the state to court and then vote them out.
I wonder if we will ever know how many women have died because of these horrid people.
We won't... just like we don't know how many women died per year pre-Roe.
But even if you assume that for every horror story we hear about post-Dobbs, there's 2-4+ more women who go through the same thing we DON'T hear about.... it's horrifying.
It's also not being widely spoken about how the adoption agencies are starting to see the influx of unwanted babies - and there aren't enough foster parents (never have been) & not enough people rich enough to afford the adoption process.
When creating a fetus in a tube (IVF) is cheaper than giving a child their Forever Home... that's f*d up.
Imagine the trauma his wife body went through and is still going through, imagine the trauma this woman will walk with for the rest of her life. A miscarriage is already difficult on a woman and it can be difficult on relationships and now adding this in the mix. What if after all of this she won't be able to have another child, this is a shame, its an absolute shame. A woman's right to do what is best for her is her right and her right alone, the job of a doctor is to safe guard the life and wellbeing of his/her patients. The government should not have a say in this at all, especially in one of the most personal and intimate aspects of a woman's medical health. I hope she can truly recover and rebuild her life, I pray for her husband as well, the way his voice shake during this interview was extremely hard to listen to. May God bless them both.
If she hadn't taken the abortion pill mifeprestone, she wouldn't have bled out like that. It wasn't a natural miscarriage. They offered to schedule a d&c a week out. It wasn't an infection risk at that point...
We had govt involvement with the covid shots
Doctors look after their bank accounts.
Apples and oranges.If there was zero govt involvement in the worldwide pandemic, where would the world be today 🤔
@@CocoaBeige healthier and wealthier
This happened to me. I went to my 5 montn appointment and doc said my baby was dead. He scheduled a D&C. I got a 2nd opinion, then went in hospital for D&C. It was 1977. I have great fear that docs are making women carry dead babies. That is SO DANGEROUS!
In Texas they ARE
I don’t know how they can say complying with Texas laws in the same sentence as complying with standards of care. There’s no care happening here.
“….to help us understand…” Are you kidding me??? Roe roe roe your vote, people.
In 2010 I miscarried with complications. Thank goodness I was able to get the medical care that I needed. Imagine these parents, not only devastated by the loss of the baby, but now the mother is being denied necessary healthcare or, in some cases, arrested! This is sickening. How do they pass laws this convoluted?
Men. Not women are making/passing these idiotic laws sad. If men could get pregnant things would change for sure
@@eddiefniiiThat's not true. Not all women feel the exact same way about women's reproductive health and believe it or not, majority of men are in favor of medically necessary ab*rtion.
@@eddiefniii Actually, IIRC there ARE some women in state legislatures - along with at least 1 female Governor - who sponsored or signed asinine proto-Gilead laws.
Why is there any issue here? If the baby is deceased 😢 why is removing a deceased fetus in a woman’s body even an issue at all?😡
Because the abortion bans in most forced birth states do not make any exceptions for already dead fetuses or for the health of a mother, only for the life of the mother. In practice this means that a hospital can't risk acting until the pregnant woman is at death's door, even if her fetus has been dead for days. If you don't like the outcomes of these laws then the laws need to be changed. There are also no exceptions for rape or incest in most of these abortion bans.
Also if someone questions your miscarriage that could give the government and law enforcement reason to dig into your medical records and question you.
Thank you for being brave enough to share your story. I am so sorry for your loss.
How is this happening in our Country? Vote Blue
Newsflash, Dem men in power care nothing about women's health and rights. When is the last time you heard any dem in leadership advocate for the Equal Rights Amendment? Never.
@@emiliemartin813why are you pressing so hard? 😭
The law is clearly too ambiguous. You are saying that wherever you can! If the law doesn’t explicitly state something, it’s ambiguous. This isn’t fair to anyone.
Stop it. Shoo. Go away.
@@PixieLove5the law is not ambiguous. It was perfectly legal for her to receive a DNC. The doctors were being idiots. If this were any other situation it would just be deemed medical malpractice, but because people want to demonize anything vaguely pro-life (which this had nothing to do with since the baby was miscarried already) they want to put the blame on anyone BUT the doctors. This is squarely the doctors’ fault.
@@emiliemartin813This is EXACTLY what they wanted when they made those laws. Stop trying to spread your misinformation like you’re going trying to cover up the truth. Just admit your people were wrong and help us come up with a solution to stop this inhumane treatment of women!
@@emiliemartin813the way the law is written in Texas this is exactly what it is supposed to be. You need to read the AAPLOG literature about what they really want to do, force women who are having a miscarriage labor for 24 hours, even if it requires blood transfusions and intensive care so the fetus is intact. Their CEO was the republicans invited speaker today at the committee hearing before the vote on the Right to Contraception Act, which was blocked by republicans. Yeah, this is just another part of the plan.
Can you imagine how hard it is if you are single/ newly widowed and are going through this? Yikes
Imagine becoming a single father and a widow BECAUSE of this.
This woman has suffered needlessly. This is a crime by our government against women. She is lucky to be alive and I pray that she will be able to have another child.
EVERY LOVING FATHER, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO STEP UP. DO IT!
Wow, these extreme fundamentalist should not be in any office.
Cruelty is the Republican Modus Operandi.
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Cruelty is the point.
nope, the democrats
@@VSE4me1yes, cruelty is the point
This is a stupid hospital that ignored a clearly dead baby and an emergency in the making... not republicans and cruelty.
Thanks, Texas legislators! You did this!
So sorry for what this family had to go through.
I'm so sorry for this poor couple.
The ER is the worst place for a mother. They seem to have no understanding of how to treat pregnancy conditions and they threaten our lives with this medical negligence. I suffered from a life threatening pregnancy condition that worsened after birth. I fainted and had seizures and was sent home from the hospital even thought the condition was all over my medical records. I too was sent home multiple times from the ER. The father talking about putting his wife on the toilet and dressing her while unconscious was exactly what my husband did for more when I had a seizure in the shower a second time. The physical and mental effects will stay with me forever because they played with my life for too many hours.
1 in 5 emergent medical cases is pregnancy only exacerbated with elimination of free standing reproductive healthcare clinics and criminalization of Obstetrics services with many physicians moving to more practice friendly states creating Obstetrics services deserts....and even less healthcare in quantity and quality for all.
My grandmother worked for a doctor's clinic for years. Since before she was a mom even and has worked for a women's clinic for just as many years. She is the strongest woman I have ever Strongest met. Her tales of at home/back alley abortions, mental health crisis and even hearing and finding her boss, who was a doctor, had un alived himself. Those were my bed time and family stories. She and I cried when Roe v. Wade was overturned. She has seen and I was well educated in the worst possible outcomes. My own cousin who was trying for a baby, chose to abort her 1st child because that baby had serious health issues that would only lead to suffering.
Not all babies who are aborted are unwanted. Many are simply loved enough to ease their suffering.
Politicians should keep their grubby hands off of medicine
they were there during covid
Gilead...under his eye....it's happening. This is Texas.
My heart and deepest condolences go out to this couple.
Texas, Florida, Idaho - and it's coming for many more.