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SA-Israel ICJ case | World awaits ICJ decision on South Africa's genocide accusation against Israel

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  • The world is awaiting a decision by the International Court of Justice (ICJ), on whether or not Israel has indeed committed acts of genocide in Gaza. Last week the International Court of Justice heard South Africa's case accusing Israel of breaching the UN Genocide Convention in the Gaza war, during a three-month conflict that has seen more than 20 000 people killed, and scores displaced. South Africa took Israel to the International Court of Justice accusing it of carrying out a genocide in Gaza. Israel's legal team on the other hand- said South Africa's claim was baseless and they had failed to make the case. To look at the ICJ's next move we're joined in the studio by the head of diplomacy and foreign policy at the University of Johannesburg, Professor Chris Landsberg and virtual by the Senior Lecturer Department of Political Science University of Pretoria, Dr Sithembile Mbete.
    For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.

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  • @ungratefulninja4535
    @ungratefulninja4535 7 місяців тому +24

    Much respect to South Africa & to all people of conscience worldwide!✌🏾💜🇵🇸

    • @riokriok2863
      @riokriok2863 7 місяців тому +1

      Well said

    • @5k1pmuck77
      @5k1pmuck77 7 місяців тому +2

      Love will reach you every time you need it I feel it in my bones :)

  • @greatestsportslegends
    @greatestsportslegends 7 місяців тому +11

    Thank you for even attempting to get the court and world see what's actually going on. But I agree, these judges will be afraid and/or given direction on how they can/will rule.
    Sadly.

    • @billgarrity6720
      @billgarrity6720 6 місяців тому +1

      It's a win-win. It will be the shot heard 'round the world no matter which way the court rules.

  • @wikussedze9292
    @wikussedze9292 7 місяців тому +17

    I just have a thought . Why do SA involved themselves with Israel and Gasa, but while the war between Ukraine and Russia, South Africa support Russia..this is contradicting governments integrity. (if they have any left)
    It more looks like a political movement from AnC. Ramaphosa did mention during their 112 y celebration that they have a special card in their hands to play.
    Why is the world not taking AnC to court for having people dying of Starvation as well as the extreme level of crime. Ramaphosa is actually the last person to say anything. I don't think innocent people dying is right, and that is for everyone.

    • @MrJohnnyBlaise
      @MrJohnnyBlaise 7 місяців тому +1

      Based on your logic, that would also mean that the Republic of the Ukraine would have to answer for the unprovoked attacks on its own Eastern Ukraine citizens in 2013-2014 prior to the Russians involvement. But people just skip over this fact

    • @fazellayoubi1995
      @fazellayoubi1995 7 місяців тому

      Let me remind that Russia support liberation of blacks in SA while Israel unconditionally supported the apartheid. On the other hand PLO supported the anti apartheid movement in SA. So it’s both a gesture of gratitude for Palestinians and bad blood with Israel both of which are justified

    • @MochThamrin-xs7vw
      @MochThamrin-xs7vw 7 місяців тому

      HEY WIKU ARE YOU F00L, DO YOU HAVE BRAIN, YOU ARE WEST PEOPLE WHY MORE F00L THAN ASIA AND AFRICA PEOPLE😂
      you can't understand the topic of this judgement problem is Israel genoside Palestine people! 😅
      Russian vs ukraine use moral when they start war is by not Attack Civillian, they evacute Woman and Children
      I think you all west people now is gay , man half woman 😂 if man become half woman they brain become 50% lose wisdom 😂
      I think your p3n15 become half too 😂
      please dont make me laugh with your stup1d1ty 😂

    • @thulsadoom544
      @thulsadoom544 7 місяців тому

      ​@@MissCleo24That's utter nonsense every sovereign state has a right to join any organisation the wish...Putins Russia don't call the shots.

    • @MariamSayed-iz9pm
      @MariamSayed-iz9pm 7 місяців тому +1

      Every country is fighting why can't south Africa

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu9171 7 місяців тому +75

    South African should expect ICJ act the same way ANC parliament dismissed phala phala case after 3 judges decision

    • @phumlamazibuko3003
      @phumlamazibuko3003 7 місяців тому +3

      Zimbabwe is not far from here, see you mic home. When will you get freedom to speak about your country?

    • @will9751
      @will9751 7 місяців тому +2

      JamesKillu again talking nonsense. You go comment about your own country! Ramaphosa didn’t kill or cause anyone to be killed with utterances

    • @johannesswartbooi1478
      @johannesswartbooi1478 7 місяців тому +2

      Interesting take I like that.

    • @user-zj1xx1ic2m
      @user-zj1xx1ic2m 7 місяців тому

      I love u R comment.... ❤❤😂

    • @petrusesterhuyzen2087
      @petrusesterhuyzen2087 7 місяців тому

      ​@@will9751not true! Daily, his appointed useless minister of police can't reduce the crime rate, in fact it has increased since!
      The minister was found to be corrupt, like jakie selebe and fired!
      But of course it's acceptable because you are probably not affected or just don't care!

  • @biersingh3291
    @biersingh3291 7 місяців тому +40

    Does this mean that after this case the Zondo Commission reports will be taken very seriously n punish the criminals

    • @Straightdeal
      @Straightdeal 7 місяців тому

      😂😂Nice try

    • @nishen1
      @nishen1 7 місяців тому +4

      When you at war in your country or when apartheid comes back don't expect help from other countries.
      And don't expect justice bcos we will tell u go support israel

    • @kooskoekemoer
      @kooskoekemoer 7 місяців тому

      @@nishen1 lol How can South-Africa become an apartheid state when only 16% of the country are employed and the majority living on government grants? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

  • @joonmason2724
    @joonmason2724 7 місяців тому +25

    Omar Albashir sheltered by our moral government. SA flip flopping on rules they like. Same thing they do at home.

  • @A10Warthog_Pilot
    @A10Warthog_Pilot 7 місяців тому +84

    Question : Why can't we also stand together and protest against Load-Shedding? We have so many huge issues in SA

    • @smr4712
      @smr4712 7 місяців тому

      dont worry the ANC is gonna be next for a hiding for they also helped the west genocide our Boers..

    • @vuvulicious41
      @vuvulicious41 7 місяців тому

      Like all South African stood together when non -white South Africans were treated like Palestinians are currently being treated? You mean like that? Selective much🤔

    • @MariamSayed-iz9pm
      @MariamSayed-iz9pm 7 місяців тому +10

      Yes you got the right for that but you got no say of the war palastians went through alot why you don't feel how they must live with food water medical things

    • @jasonsmith-mz9rf
      @jasonsmith-mz9rf 7 місяців тому +10

      @@MariamSayed-iz9pm Why should we care about them? We have our own issues.

    • @JAHBLUNT_di_singer
      @JAHBLUNT_di_singer 7 місяців тому +9

      ​@@jasonsmith-mz9rfam a black born 🇯🇲 I stand with the oppress yes black people & Africa on a whole have a lot of issues but have you not seen these people is going through the same very thing black people faces & still facing so how can you be black & African & turn ur back of these people

  • @johandekock3284
    @johandekock3284 7 місяців тому +20

    when is the Court Case against the genocide in South Africa?

    • @siyabongadlamini7852
      @siyabongadlamini7852 7 місяців тому +1

      You mean the one where apartheid police opened fire on innocent school children in Soweto?, I wonder where is that case docket we must refresh and look into it 😮😢😢

    • @kaenancelliers9870
      @kaenancelliers9870 7 місяців тому

      ​@@siyabongadlamini7852your government has failed you yet you want to blame the past. Your so called heroes knowlingly sent school children into the riots so the world would band together against the then government just like Hamas is using hospitals and schools as their intelligence centers. Go read before you start throwing around the race card.

    • @noobymooby-ty8gh
      @noobymooby-ty8gh 7 місяців тому +1

      For..?

    • @noobymooby-ty8gh
      @noobymooby-ty8gh 7 місяців тому

      You really just said the most random thing without doing research huh?

    • @Galaxy-ho2pk
      @Galaxy-ho2pk 7 місяців тому

      ​@@siyabongadlamini7852please 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @LindahSeloba
    @LindahSeloba 7 місяців тому +3

    South Africa is super power in third World

  • @whoorwhat395
    @whoorwhat395 7 місяців тому +10

    Is this guy beneficiary of the 30% pass mark?

    • @CodeSleeper
      @CodeSleeper 7 місяців тому +1

      sounds like you are.

    • @nishen1
      @nishen1 7 місяців тому

      Whites restricted them from learning from the beginning

    • @nic0072
      @nic0072 7 місяців тому +1

      Probably, I would not give the ANC's case a pass rate of more than 30 percent anyway.

  • @GameboyAdvance6969
    @GameboyAdvance6969 7 місяців тому +13

    What about Marikana massacr? Is the ANC not gonna be prosecuted ?

  • @memeguyTM
    @memeguyTM 7 місяців тому +31

    The Arab countries rather spend money on Ronaldo and Jordan Henderson instead of support Palestine but now SA claim that they are behind the appeal 🤣🤣🤣

    • @angellady6485
      @angellady6485 7 місяців тому

      Need to check their leader bank account on how much Hamas pays them.

  • @user-et3ix7sw7m
    @user-et3ix7sw7m 7 місяців тому +4

    Embarrassing for you South Africa , people of South Africa, you should kick out your useless corrupt government .

  • @AshtonvanNiekerk
    @AshtonvanNiekerk 7 місяців тому +35

    The problem is, it is very difficult to distinguish Genuine Moral concerns from a political power play. If South Africa took both Hamas and Israel to court, it would certainly be seen as a genuine moral action, rather than a political power play.

    • @user-yz4tp7of5b
      @user-yz4tp7of5b 7 місяців тому +10

      I think if Israel thinks hamas is also a perpetrator of genocide it can also go ahead and sue them at the ICJ...don't forget Israel is responsible for killings of their own civilians and not hamas..don't expect SA to sue hamas.

    • @winnersfootballtv5517
      @winnersfootballtv5517 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@user-yz4tp7of5bhow can you sue someone you cannot catch, your argument is deceptive.

    • @sammymoynihan6293
      @sammymoynihan6293 7 місяців тому +1

      Hamas is not a member of the UN as Palestine is not a sovereign state. As such, they haven't signed the Geneva Convention. South Africa is unable to take them to trial. If Israel wants to take them to ICJ, they first need to allow the creation of a Palestinian state. Give them their sovereignty. Then they can take them to ICJ. Although, I can't see that ending well for Israel. South Africa is motivated by their own experiences overcoming Apartheid and their commitment to honouring the legacy of Mandela, who was a staunch supporter of Palestine.

    • @Alignedtop
      @Alignedtop 7 місяців тому +1

      The leaders are based in Qatar and London. U can easily sue them.

    • @petrusesterhuyzen2087
      @petrusesterhuyzen2087 7 місяців тому

      Where did israel kill it's own people? Do u really think that israel planned and executed the incident? How many jihadist muslims, surrender and when u approach they dedonate bombs or grenades attached to their bodies, it's been a long time tactic

  • @desmondmouton7164
    @desmondmouton7164 7 місяців тому +5

    🇿🇦 not my president! 🙏🏻🇮🇱🙏🏻🇮🇱🙏🏻🇮🇱

    • @vaclavkubicek2970
      @vaclavkubicek2970 7 місяців тому +3

      Thank you South Africa ❤️❤️❤️

    • @vaclavkubicek2970
      @vaclavkubicek2970 7 місяців тому +1

      The state of Israel should be cancelled by the UN. 75 years of injustice are enough.
      Israel jeopardises world peace.

  • @ronelpeens7366
    @ronelpeens7366 7 місяців тому +3

    and Leeanne is a dreadful interviewer!

    • @mazibukomail
      @mazibukomail 7 місяців тому +1

      Been saying, she's so mediocre.

  • @srininaidoo
    @srininaidoo 7 місяців тому +7

    If these judges don't call out Israel for genocide then this planet is doomed

    • @jodashpillay7740
      @jodashpillay7740 7 місяців тому

      Call out the ANC first before you jump to Israel.

    • @graceyam1925
      @graceyam1925 7 місяців тому +1

      No News No Jews. quote from Ambassador of Israel. The holy land of Israel must be steadfast in bringing hostages home and the terrorists must surrender to take responsibility for their atrocities on 7/10/23..

    • @Tourimatsa
      @Tourimatsa 7 місяців тому

      If they do not do anything the western powers will loose all left respect of the rest of the World and people will look more to the East. I spit on western politics.

    • @srininaidoo
      @srininaidoo 7 місяців тому

      @@graceyam1925
      Are you aware of the Hannibal doctrine.
      Israel killed the Jewish hostages rather than negotiate for their release.
      This kind of logic is inhuman. But then the Zionists are the scum of the earth, not the self declared chosen ones they'd like us to believe.

  • @bobiel9048
    @bobiel9048 7 місяців тому +5

    This ICJ case is about clarification of human rights and provisional measures for ongoing conflict in Gaza.

  • @thobamngadi5254
    @thobamngadi5254 7 місяців тому +8

    Citizens must be told stop dumping rubbish in drainage. Pay rates, discipline children. Human rights and democracy is our own worst enemy

  • @IbnSulaimanAlAkhyar
    @IbnSulaimanAlAkhyar 7 місяців тому +5

    18:45 this professor is brilliant.

  • @ayanda-zs
    @ayanda-zs 7 місяців тому +4

    Very brave and commendable intervention South Africa 🇿🇦

    • @temporarilyjosh
      @temporarilyjosh 7 місяців тому

      What else are they to be commended for?

    • @temporarilyjosh
      @temporarilyjosh 7 місяців тому

      And which country is brave enough to take Iran/Palestine to the same court of justice for their blatant and outspoken intent on genocide? I must be dreaming. Is the world really so far gone? It's difficult to imagine a peaceful world ahead. And tell me, supporters of Palestine, would you choose to live under Hamas? You want the freedoms of the West, but are not willing to fight for it. It will be a dark, dark world for us all if you cannot see the light.

    • @Wokejokes902
      @Wokejokes902 7 місяців тому +1

      @@temporarilyjoshyour wife’s sideburns

    • @davidgibson3631
      @davidgibson3631 7 місяців тому

      @@Wokejokes902 ha ha no way to talk just drag some wife to show big ball that is low life

  • @marjendemhare5892
    @marjendemhare5892 7 місяців тому +1

    Viva Palestina! Viva Justice! 🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸🇿🇦🇵🇸✌

  • @DotaAvailable
    @DotaAvailable 7 місяців тому +10

    Message to the judges: Every Judge has the responsibility. like here like hereafter its responsibility to say the truth. whatever the consequences. this is responsibility and you will be proud of yourself. and everyone will be proud of you.
    "this is your wining side judges" even if the consequences getting lay from your work.
    "Say the truth please you're the hope of humanity" you will be granted everywhere of saying the truth. you will be heroes.

    • @thulsadoom544
      @thulsadoom544 7 місяців тому

      Yes the truth is its got nothing to do with genocide Hamas started a War with Israel and hide behind the civilians in all Wars civilians are killed that's the nature of War ...how many German civilians died in WW2 in Japan in the UK .

  • @whoorwhat395
    @whoorwhat395 7 місяців тому +18

    The ANC is now the legal arm of Hamas

    • @siyabongadlamini7852
      @siyabongadlamini7852 7 місяців тому

      Khaamaass khaammass khaamaas as if it is a country, some people's IQ is really questionable

  • @mariefourie5314
    @mariefourie5314 7 місяців тому +1

    ANC sort out our electricity problems you caused. Get your priorities straight.

  • @Demawi650
    @Demawi650 7 місяців тому +6

    And why have we not taken Russia to the ICJ? That court ruled against him but we still friends with Russia!

  • @MikeLangfordGoogle
    @MikeLangfordGoogle 7 місяців тому +1

    The ICJ case is all about money for the ANC.

  • @artcrafttalent9857
    @artcrafttalent9857 7 місяців тому +59

    We are amazed by South Africa's humanity, generosity, and kindness to children and innocent people ❤. We are ashamed of Israelis acts on poor Palestinians for not only for the last three months but for more than 75 years, including 1948 Nakba and Genocide 💔. It's really sickening and disgusting and horrific

    • @will9751
      @will9751 7 місяців тому

      The Zionist Jew Israelis are settlers in Palestine. We should blame the British for this. The Balfour declaration gave us this nonsense.

    • @BallsyStud
      @BallsyStud 7 місяців тому +9

      1915 Armenian Christians were slaughtered 500k worse than Nakba before u point fingers make sure your hands are clean

    • @KLM-gp7zp
      @KLM-gp7zp 7 місяців тому +2

      @@BallsyStud Oh grow up - don't change the f subject

    • @Logia1978
      @Logia1978 7 місяців тому +6

      ​@BallsyStud
      Irrelevant....
      It's about the genocide of Israel and nothing else...

    • @NickPax
      @NickPax 7 місяців тому

      "Humanity!". The same "South Africans" crying thier eyes out about genocide at the ICJ are the SAME people trying to hide South Africa's own genocide. Almost R4000 farm murders in the last 10 years, 641 farm murders, and 90% white btw. This with a polulation of less than 7.3% white people against 81.4% other non white cultures. These same IDIOTS at the ICJ are also the same people who look the other way while politicians chant "KILL THE FARMER" (and yes, he does mean kill the WHITE farmer.) So give those SMART South Africans at the ICJ a warm hand. We are so fckng proud of you for standing up against Israel, that btw makes up less than 1% of the people trying to wipe them from the earth. Open your eyes. Stop following the conga line. But this is only my opinion. I have never agreed to violence against any race, culture or group.

  • @FrederickJohnstone-pn2xt
    @FrederickJohnstone-pn2xt 7 місяців тому +1

    According to Professor Andre Thomashusen, an emeritus professor of comparative and international law at Unisa, South Africa has failed to prove genocidal intent by Israel in Gaza. Thomashusen says that South Africa's case in the ICJ rests on an inadequate understanding of international law.
    South Africa's case is based on the comments of senior Israeli officials, which are mostly vague and not backed up by evidence of genocidal acts.
    South Africa argues that Israel's indiscriminate retaliatory bombing and siege of Gaza contravenes the Genocide Convention. South Africa's legal team needs to prove that the indiscriminate mass killings it calls a genocide are indeed happening, and that there is an intent to commit these acts by Tel Aviv.
    Israel's lawyers pointed out that the court must specifically prove Israel is guilty of genocidal intent, not any other violations. 🇭🇲🇺🇲🙏🤠💪😂🤣

    • @ezekielamuaalua4564
      @ezekielamuaalua4564 7 місяців тому

      Israel lawyers poked holes in the SA allegations all because of Hamas violation of IHL and Laws governing wars.

  • @jc2coming
    @jc2coming 7 місяців тому +2

    SA accusing Israel of genocide is like a rapist accusing his victim why she strikes back!!!
    And what UN said matches the definition of genocide:
    "The accounts of sexual violence committed by Hamas and others on October 7th must be rigorously investigated and prosecuted.Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring and kidnapping of civilians.Nothing can justify the launching of rockets towards civilian targets."
    - António Guterres (@antonioguterres) January 16, 2024

  • @deanchapman2302
    @deanchapman2302 7 місяців тому +28

    The Israeli's are right. South Africa has demonstrated their antisemitism based on ANC rhetoric and having followed all sides from a not on the ground perception myself but listening to many who are on the ground, my own opinion is that SA's or rather the ANC's case is severely flawed.

    • @alelzarterl212
      @alelzarterl212 7 місяців тому +6

      I'm guessing you didn't even watch the case made by South Africa in the icj

    • @siyabongadlamini7852
      @siyabongadlamini7852 7 місяців тому +7

      He didn't watch the case ,he is just the UA-cam warrior right in his couch, I used to think white people have high moral standards 😅

    • @friedala4702
      @friedala4702 7 місяців тому

      For isreal sympathizers they would feel diffrently if they experienced 75 years of stealing land and apartheid and genocide and militairy zionistic oppucetion.

    • @Godisgood1980SA
      @Godisgood1980SA 7 місяців тому +2

      And very, VERY hypocritical

    • @Galaxy-ho2pk
      @Galaxy-ho2pk 7 місяців тому

      ​@@siyabongadlamini7852Is that the best you can do 😂😂😂😂

  • @Sabrina-zf1rh
    @Sabrina-zf1rh 7 місяців тому +8

    Thank you, South Africa ♥️ 🇿🇦

    • @CharodyParody
      @CharodyParody 7 місяців тому

      South Afrika never stood for the justice and humanity of the Kurds and neither did the Palestinians.... all convenient politics.... you scratch my back, I scratch your back..... bogus....

    • @angellady6485
      @angellady6485 7 місяців тому

      How much does a terrorist organization pay SA?

  • @theresaburdett1054
    @theresaburdett1054 7 місяців тому +1

    We dont support the govt. Israel have the right to defend themselves. SA has no argument.

  • @joefaber4606
    @joefaber4606 7 місяців тому +1

    What about the Genocide against a South African farmers

  • @johncolumb6014
    @johncolumb6014 7 місяців тому +1

    South Africa should start looking at its own country your people are getting poor and poor ,

  • @flinfaraday1821
    @flinfaraday1821 7 місяців тому +6

    Joke of the century.

  • @Codydoggy
    @Codydoggy 7 місяців тому +4

    South Africa must ask their Hamas friends to release the hostages

    • @arlensmith3717
      @arlensmith3717 7 місяців тому

      How about asking Israel to release the thousands of Palestinians held captive...the kids they hold prisoner without trial?? Do you think people will accept oppression for so long without getting tired of it? Think pre-October 7 hey!

  • @Aqua-Channel.
    @Aqua-Channel. 7 місяців тому +6

    How can the SA be impartial if rescinded politics with Israel, including the deal for water tech that would help the 200+ mil persons in Africa suffering from hunger and open an Hamas office in capetown with the talk to open many more?

    • @sikholamla8299
      @sikholamla8299 7 місяців тому +3

      There is hunger in Europe and water is available in the continant if you see South Africa as a continant. It's only the infrastructure such as pipes and dams. So i dnt think Israel has the money to give 200 million out of hunger when they are being given the money by the US

    • @keithmarais603
      @keithmarais603 7 місяців тому +5

      How pathetic is our governtment we have floods in SA i haven't hear or see any helicopters in the air to help rescue or deliver food parcels but the more worried about what happen in other countries. Shame on the ANC government 😢😢😢. Let's start praying that the poor and vulnerable eyes open and help with their fall.

    • @phumlamazibuko3003
      @phumlamazibuko3003 7 місяців тому +2

      There's hunger in Europe and worse now as the Western countries are collapsing.
      At the other. side SA has other allies in BRICS+. is the solution we need not bullies.

    • @biko8229
      @biko8229 7 місяців тому +1

      Why would it be a problem if Hamas had an office in Cape Town??
      Other countries allowed the ANC to open its offices when the ANC was banned and declared a terrorist organization by apartheid SA, USA and its Western friends.

    • @Aqua-Channel.
      @Aqua-Channel. 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sikholamla8299 Israel offered water techs and sustain with US, but it rejected it for Hamas dealership which provided nothing but offices in their cities. So I do not see how that is a better solution or suggest impartiality in this case

  • @12345678965732
    @12345678965732 7 місяців тому +2

    South America watching tomuch al Jazeera

  • @ScanlonrocNYC
    @ScanlonrocNYC 7 місяців тому +18

    I'm from Ireland. The people of Ireland stand with our brothers and sisters in South Africa and Palestine, even though our government was too cowardy to sign on to your case. ❤️🇿🇦🇵🇸

    • @Alignedtop
      @Alignedtop 7 місяців тому

      You have a smart government.

  • @nazbinnaz7505
    @nazbinnaz7505 7 місяців тому +1

    I hope the juges do watch news.
    And they have a mobile phone and tv to see what is happening. South Africa didn't had to argue and out forward the case.
    The world court of justice should of taken this step long long time ago going back 1945

  • @roybailie1119
    @roybailie1119 7 місяців тому +7

    As a south African, I am embarrassed

  • @leoncoetzer
    @leoncoetzer 7 місяців тому +13

    South Africa does not have the moral right to challenge Israel, the ANC helped Bashir escape when he was wanted for genocide in Darfur, or you may have forgotten. The ANC thugs embraced Putin, when he was wanted for war crimes with far more deaths than Gaza, and the ANC invited the criminal to South Africa without a second thought. This is an embarrassment

    • @WildfyreCreations
      @WildfyreCreations 7 місяців тому

      All smoke and mirrors.
      The ANC are trying to avoid accountability for all of the destruction they have caused in SA

  • @infiniti28160
    @infiniti28160 7 місяців тому +14

    You cant win with narcissist, they are smart enough to avoid any incrimination using a barrage of fallaious logic that would confound the most clear minded individual.

    • @infiniti28160
      @infiniti28160 7 місяців тому +1

      I will give something for people to think about. If conscription exists in the Judaic statehood, is not the IDF embedded in the civilian population? As i stated above, dealing with a narcissist is like dealing with a snake. There are many that are not aware that the system of egoic desires is an upside down world.

    • @Tourimatsa
      @Tourimatsa 7 місяців тому

      And they do not respect anyone else, and think everyone else are beneath them. The real - 99% of the world (not the politicians) will not forget.

    • @infiniti28160
      @infiniti28160 7 місяців тому

      @@Tourimatsa Politicians are flying monkeys, sycophantic

    • @-ScapegoatDiaries
      @-ScapegoatDiaries 7 місяців тому +1

      And they are immoral and amoral. U are not dealing with a normal human being when it comes to narcissists

    • @infiniti28160
      @infiniti28160 7 місяців тому +1

      @@-ScapegoatDiaries The phenomena of a ideology based upon flesh treating anybodu outside of their chosen status, turns some of them into rabid dogs. If you push them long enough they tend to glaze over and become amost robotic.l ike a golem with truth removed from their forehead. They can automatically spit out exactly what they deny when being accused turning it against the accuser. El Shaddai. the destroyer

  • @cathyontong5324
    @cathyontong5324 7 місяців тому

    WOW ! Leigh-Anne , thanks for a lovely discussion.

  • @hgfku-tn6hb
    @hgfku-tn6hb 7 місяців тому +13

    Everyone can see atrocities by Israel on palestine but my prediction and fear is that ICJ will see different

    • @edievanzyl2629
      @edievanzyl2629 7 місяців тому +1

      Your fear is that the ICJ will rule by the letter of the law ... You are hoping for a political vote in favour of South Africa (which is highly possible) ...

    • @user-fu8qe4pb6w
      @user-fu8qe4pb6w 7 місяців тому

      ICJ and UN law puts responsibility on the party which started the war. Russia disregarded ICJ , Israel can and will follow Russian option. Israel clearly indicated it. UN Security members US, UK, Germany, France( all The First World ) are supporting Israel. The result was clear before case was filed, just looking at Russian case and further ICJ actions - it is obvious result for SA.

    • @thepovertyagenda
      @thepovertyagenda 7 місяців тому

      Yes. I also feel that the UN agencies like the World Bank, FAO and others are all controlled by the United States and their allies who are capitalist democracies that only see the growth of their economies as their only self-interest which is served by the policies, strategies and rules and regulations impose on the world by these organisations. I fear that the ICJ will also choose to tow the West's avoidance of the issue of human rights and disregard of the events in the Middle East.

    • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
      @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 7 місяців тому

      ​@@edievanzyl2629I was kinda hoping the case only had to be made ceremonially as everyone can see what is happening with their own eyes and hear the belicose Israel leaders. The only difference is between who think genocide should go on and those who should stop, but that genocide is afoot is unassailable.

  • @ronaldmaburu6389
    @ronaldmaburu6389 7 місяців тому +10

    There is nothing to justify killing of civilians which the whole world witnessed.

    • @Alignedtop
      @Alignedtop 7 місяців тому

      Thays part of war
      Especially when u have a cowardly terrorist group who don't care about their own citizens.
      If the reverse were true, you would actually see a genocide by hamas on Israel. That's the real difference.... dumbass

  • @markkahn8890
    @markkahn8890 6 місяців тому

    Who has paid the ANC to take Israel to ICJ?? We all know the ANC don't do anything without kickbacks.

  • @za9393
    @za9393 7 місяців тому

    Pathetic , weak , despicable SA Lawyers >>>> Since the SA government has announced that they stand by Hamas, 1.4 trillion Rand in investments have been withdrawn from SA -About 6 months ago an application was brought by a service provider who was owed about R 120 million by the ANC for the liquidation of the ANC. The application was due to be heard in November 2023. Earlier last year it had been unable to pay salaries of staff for several months. The ANC was close to bankruptcy. (Sounds familiar? ... like the SAA, SABC, Eskom, Transnet etc. etc)
    In October 2023, the minister of foreign affairs visits Iran. Soon after this visit ...
    1) the government expresses solidarity with the Palestinians in a public display broadcast on TV
    2) hosts a Hamas delegation in SA.
    3) launch an urgent application to the ICJ, accusing Israel of genocide in Gaza. Just the preliminary application costs come to R 200 million for preparation and argument (the final trial will cost about R 1,5 billion.) ...... just shows you how sick the SA gov is .... promoting lies and deceiving the public

  • @jsey20
    @jsey20 7 місяців тому +2

    Jesus was there before Mohamed. 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱

  • @brianlazarus7795
    @brianlazarus7795 7 місяців тому

    Is South Africa not guilty of LOADSHEDDING GENOCIDE IN SOUTH AFRICA? DID THE ANC NOT DELIBERATELY DESTROY ESKOM?😢

  • @marjendemhare5892
    @marjendemhare5892 7 місяців тому +1

    Next case: South Africa vs U.S.A.

  • @leonhue722
    @leonhue722 7 місяців тому +9

    For all the hamas sympathizers they would feel differently if they had experienced the violence at the concert on the 7th October.

    • @friedala4702
      @friedala4702 7 місяців тому

      For isreal sympathizers they would feel diffrently if they experienced 75 years of stealing land and apartheid and genocide and militairy zionistic oppucetion.

  • @user-sf3uh6ev1o
    @user-sf3uh6ev1o 7 місяців тому +21

    Will taking Israel to court create tension between SA and Israel?

    • @phumlamazibuko3003
      @phumlamazibuko3003 7 місяців тому

      Of course already cut ties with Israel and nothing positive is expected from Israel especially now as the court case filed by SA.
      Until the ceasefire and 2 states solution are implemented.
      It looks like SA has no time for bullies these days.

    • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
      @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 7 місяців тому +20

      Hasn't it already?

    • @goodywardhunt3605
      @goodywardhunt3605 7 місяців тому +9

      it will surely NOT help SA with it's ELECTRICITY
      .
      .
      😂😂😂🎉😂😅

    • @user-sf3uh6ev1o
      @user-sf3uh6ev1o 7 місяців тому +3

      @@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 should we prepare for the worst?

    • @biersingh3291
      @biersingh3291 7 місяців тому +7

      Tensions are already embedded

  • @becauseyoucan2171
    @becauseyoucan2171 7 місяців тому +2

    The south African lady was sitting facts. I like hearing her

  • @mphomangole3768
    @mphomangole3768 6 місяців тому

    The fact that Israel poked holes in the ANC is a concern. If they lose the case, they still have the problem of having created enemies. Their mission was totally useless and unnecessary

  • @InstigatorDJ
    @InstigatorDJ 7 місяців тому

    The world doesnt GAF about this farce.

  • @liatpittaway4372
    @liatpittaway4372 7 місяців тому

    South Africa is a disgrace

  • @stephaniechandler3842
    @stephaniechandler3842 7 місяців тому +2

    On look what country is the accuser South Africa is the last country to say anything UGH

  • @Malisti04
    @Malisti04 7 місяців тому +1

    Why have both guest from the same side- seemingly

  • @vijayantgovender2045
    @vijayantgovender2045 7 місяців тому +2

    What about Russia please don’t forget what did are doing is so unfair

  • @elainemckenzie864
    @elainemckenzie864 7 місяців тому +3

    How much money did hamas pay south africa

  • @margarets1465
    @margarets1465 7 місяців тому +1

    Have you ever worked for an Isreali or Zionists Company or.Organization ...In South Africa...???

  • @andrevisser7542
    @andrevisser7542 7 місяців тому +2

    The international court of justice should have arrested the "South African" team for supporting Hamas terrorists.

  • @user-pr4sw2jj4f
    @user-pr4sw2jj4f 7 місяців тому

    Which country is going to make a case against South Africa for the genocide of the whites&farmers since their Independence?

  • @bitemebudha8571
    @bitemebudha8571 7 місяців тому +7

    Oh I enjoyed this very much!
    ❤ From Britain! X

  • @teresakelly7131
    @teresakelly7131 7 місяців тому +3

    It’s war that’s what happens

    • @thulsadoom544
      @thulsadoom544 7 місяців тому

      Exactly and it's not called genocide...think the Jews know all about proper genocide not this nonsense case.

  • @caramazzola2399
    @caramazzola2399 7 місяців тому

    Thank you leaders

  • @1986aurora
    @1986aurora 7 місяців тому +4

    As a south african thia makes me so angry. Its the last straw the anc has broken . Fighting other wars while we r suffering and have been under ur rule anc. This should make every single perso. Who struggles here upset . Why are we forgotten and allowing anc to put a foreign issues and ppl before what we are surving everyday here due to Nc failure. This is insulting . I pray for the ppl iver there suffering but i prY more f9r us south africans as we have been living a war for many many yrs under these false heros

    • @mazibukomail
      @mazibukomail 7 місяців тому

      You care about South African? Since when?

  • @kennyesposito6477
    @kennyesposito6477 7 місяців тому +3

    One should expect that this stupidity on SA's part shall mean the beginning of the end for all Western Countries to provide any further financial support to SA in the future.

    • @azizgierdien4837
      @azizgierdien4837 7 місяців тому +2

      Hope people like yourself sleep well at night with this line of thinking (placing material wealth above humanity) being applied in your own life.

    • @srininaidoo
      @srininaidoo 7 місяців тому +1

      They take more than they give anyway.
      They will do us the greatest favour by not being here.
      South Africa has it all. We don't need anything from the west. We are capable of sustaining ourselves. We are self sufficient. Following in the footsteps of the Russian people.

    • @rosminajusoh5085
      @rosminajusoh5085 7 місяців тому +1

      Salute n thanks to SA for bringing the israel genocide case to ICJ n very shame on people who supporting war crimes n genocide above humanity!hope all judges will make a professional decision!!

    • @abgnadk
      @abgnadk 7 місяців тому

      SA can stand with their on feet. No need western country anymore, Western people are not master to black people anymore, the idea of western supremacy are long gone.

    • @nic0072
      @nic0072 7 місяців тому

      @@srininaidoo You are making a HUGE mistake.

  • @ronelpeens7366
    @ronelpeens7366 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow lady .. slow down counting your chickens ..

  • @joritajacobson
    @joritajacobson 7 місяців тому

    SA quiet on what Russia is doing in Ukraine

  • @cherrylhogg5760
    @cherrylhogg5760 7 місяців тому +3

    Embarrassed to be a South African

  • @piwaizharare266
    @piwaizharare266 7 місяців тому +3

    When is the elections in SA?Are the political parties already campaigning.😊

    • @memeguyTM
      @memeguyTM 7 місяців тому +3

      Soon, yes ANC already campaigned for the Muslim community 😅

  • @rubyali5337
    @rubyali5337 6 місяців тому

    israel saying it has tried to avoid humanitarian damage is not enough we have seen what they have done and thr lies wont wash

  • @user-ch7kf1yw6u
    @user-ch7kf1yw6u 7 місяців тому +4

    The truth will always come out. The ANC appears to have had an outstanding final quarter of 2023 - South Africa, not so much.
    Let me explain. Heading into October, South Africa's ruling political party was on the ropes. The larder was bare; it was on the hook for a R120 million court settlement to an unpaid service provider; staff had suffered several missed paydays; and donors had been fleeing in direct proportion to opinion surveys showing the party's sinking popularity. Prospects for the 2024 Election appeared bleak, mainly as this political party's vote-catching relies heavily on funding (food parcels, t-shirts, transport, etc.).
    But as the new year begins, we are told the party's finances are suddenly in excellent shape. It's hard to miss the coincidence between the ANC's miraculous financial rejuvenation and the country's sudden interest in forcing a ceasefire in Gaza. An obsession costing SA taxpayers hundreds of millions of rand through their funding of the high-profile prosecution against Israel in the UN's International Court of Justice.

  • @Tourimatsa
    @Tourimatsa 7 місяців тому

    Imagine Iran helps native Americans make country in the middle of USA. This is Israel.

  • @kudamutee2203
    @kudamutee2203 7 місяців тому +2

    When is the decision being made?

  • @acqueenarkpyanne721
    @acqueenarkpyanne721 7 місяців тому +2

    Israel learnt their lessons from previous attacks..Israel gives notice to civilians to vacate but hamas are not helping

  • @kelrogers8480
    @kelrogers8480 7 місяців тому +13

    Not only is SA Gov making taxpayers pay millions for its UN anti-Israel bid (in a country where it's own citizens are starving) but the ANC also got massive kickbacks from Iran!

    • @elizabethmarshall1996
      @elizabethmarshall1996 7 місяців тому

      Your stupidity is showing

    • @aimanmarzuqi4804
      @aimanmarzuqi4804 7 місяців тому +6

      Source?

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 7 місяців тому

      @@aimanmarzuqi4804 today's BizNews.

    • @user-et3ix7sw7m
      @user-et3ix7sw7m 7 місяців тому

      You are right, the lack of ANC’s ability to govern it’s own country and it’s ability of the ANC government to stop the barbaric murder of over 30 000 citizens every year inside of South Africa

  • @MK-gn1nz
    @MK-gn1nz 7 місяців тому +3

    Original inhabitants of Pallestines (Canaanites) are long gone for a thousands of years. Since then occupier after occupier occupied Pallestine. Occupiers are now waging war against each other. Arabs vs Jews. Jews occupied Pallestine much earlier than Arabs by a thousand years. But Muslims are higher in number, by a few billions. You be the judge.

  • @jamespang6571
    @jamespang6571 6 місяців тому

    WE ARE A DIME A DOZEN 😢

  • @AbideAdame-pr7my
    @AbideAdame-pr7my 7 місяців тому +2

    We love you South African

  • @olwethusibanyoni1715
    @olwethusibanyoni1715 7 місяців тому +7

    ANC will win elections, DA might have problems in Western Cape due to this conflict. We might see a coalition in western cape, DA lost a lot of voters.

    • @Alignedtop
      @Alignedtop 7 місяців тому

      U on crack again?
      Hope Israel wins.
      Hamas is pure scum.

    • @petrusesterhuyzen2087
      @petrusesterhuyzen2087 7 місяців тому

      Yep, maybe but then those that vote them in again, don't complain, demonstrate, cause unrest when load shedding continues, railways and transport doesn't function, roads are falling apart, the economy crashes, the provision of water and food decreases!
      Those that vote keep on voting for poor service delivery, useless courts, no crime fighting strategy, further murders, rape, theft, fraud, corruption!
      Every time they are voted for the anc elite believe the citizens find their poor service delivery, increased tax, inflation and fuel prices acceptable! That all the ministers have tax payer bought generators at their residence, tons of fuel to run them and not be affected by load shedding!
      That the purchasing power of the unaffordable grants get less and less each month, to starve and not have clean drinking water is a sacrifice while the anc elites live comfortably!

    • @GameboyAdvance6969
      @GameboyAdvance6969 7 місяців тому

      Are you smoking tik. The reason why the ANC will never govern WC again because of racial demographics.
      Us coloured people have persecuted during apartheid and now. We will never be free until WC is free from SA.
      You support black Zionist trying to steal white and coloured Palestinian land. You are the Zionist not us.

    • @Godisgood1980SA
      @Godisgood1980SA 7 місяців тому

      You wish!

    • @jodashpillay7740
      @jodashpillay7740 7 місяців тому

      Surprising its the opposite, there's more support for Israel than Palestine among our citizens.

  • @cathyontong5324
    @cathyontong5324 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for a very interesting and informative talk by the prof and the doc.

  • @user-kl8yx3lh7z
    @user-kl8yx3lh7z 7 місяців тому +1

    SA is charging Israel for commiting "Genocide" a word coined by a Jew Lawyer. And now what will happen to SA with all those technologies that is helping SA includinding water technology that is helpning more than 200 Million Africans.

  • @julezwayne7155
    @julezwayne7155 7 місяців тому +8

    As a german myself i feel nothing but ashamed for the stance that my gouvernment is taking...
    It seems as if our leaders in politics have learned nothing from our terrible, younger history.
    I cant thank south africa enough for beeing such a beacon of light in these dark times !!! Thank you so much

  • @inamulislam7141
    @inamulislam7141 7 місяців тому +6

    Ww are with south Africa. We are proud of south Africa. May Allah bless the people of south Africa Aameen

  • @obaraksennahoj7191
    @obaraksennahoj7191 7 місяців тому +26

    People who say South Africa should focus on their own problems should follow their own advice. No comments on other news stories but they want to complain when South Africa dares to participate in the international community, funnily when it stands against an Apartheid state

    • @edievanzyl2629
      @edievanzyl2629 7 місяців тому

      Funnily ... Apartheid is alive & well, & living in South Africa ... deeply entrenched in racially discriminatory South African legislation, violation of its own Constitution as well as the Human Rights Charter ...

    • @ScanlonrocNYC
      @ScanlonrocNYC 7 місяців тому

      They want people in the global south and black people in general to shut up.

    • @awidikor2821
      @awidikor2821 7 місяців тому +2

      Funny 🤣

    • @leoncoetzer
      @leoncoetzer 7 місяців тому

      The ordinary person in SA does not agree with this political charade when they are hungry and unemployed. we have our own daily murders and rapes. Gaza can fvck off

    • @robotzombie2481
      @robotzombie2481 7 місяців тому

      Yes theyre silent on gender based violence and on hamas atrocities on oct 7th

  • @FurianXX
    @FurianXX 7 місяців тому +3

    riddle me this.... if the ruling party in SA was the DA... would they have brought the case to the ICJ ?

  • @hizstory1813
    @hizstory1813 6 місяців тому

    I don't choose to spread a narrative of low expectation so I will say that those countries that decide to bow down to this mysterious "power" will be shamed and the hope is that Africa turns its back on them as well as the future unfolds. At some point Africa as a continent will be forced to mature in its political prowess by the people itself and when that happens much of the West including the US will face MAJOR financial problems. This could take 2 generations but when it happens woe to those who openly disrespected The Continent.

  • @Sabrina-zf1rh
    @Sabrina-zf1rh 7 місяців тому

    STOP GENOCIDE QAZA ‼️

  • @Muhamadjufry8637
    @Muhamadjufry8637 7 місяців тому

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
    Thank you Africa 🎉🎉🎉

  • @gomoconsumingfire7269
    @gomoconsumingfire7269 7 місяців тому

    South Africa touch not God's people the Israelites

  • @barnardafrika657
    @barnardafrika657 7 місяців тому +8

    I want to know what the cost is for South Africa to send this legal delegation and other to this hearing. I also feel as a developing country that rely on foreign funds to griw econonmicly can afford to get involve in procedongs like this. The other I question SA's motive to do this , why does SA not doing the same and judge Russia accordingly ?????

    • @Godisgood1980SA
      @Godisgood1980SA 7 місяців тому

      It's all political!

    • @acqueenarkpyanne721
      @acqueenarkpyanne721 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah why cant they judge Russia too with Ukraine

    • @shanilbharath9327
      @shanilbharath9327 7 місяців тому +2

      Don't worry,the Muslims in south Africa will fund the legal team coz they jumping very high

    • @Cheateaux
      @Cheateaux 7 місяців тому

      Russia has not inflicted the same civilian casualty rate over time that Israel has in the past few months, and Israel is not nearly done with Gaza; there’s a more solid case there. Yes it’s also political, but coming out ahead of the US/Euro governments morally, gaining popular support is always a win.

    • @ezekielamuaalua4564
      @ezekielamuaalua4564 7 місяців тому

      Was the whole town of Bucha not wiped out ?😳​@@Cheateaux

  • @Aan_allein
    @Aan_allein 6 місяців тому

    How does Russia sit in SA view?

  • @sawyou8912
    @sawyou8912 7 місяців тому +1

    1) intent

  • @acqueenarkpyanne721
    @acqueenarkpyanne721 7 місяців тому

    Just because its to.do with Israeli

  • @rafaelbendavid4041
    @rafaelbendavid4041 7 місяців тому

    SA ANC one party regime, Hamas legal arm

  • @mooselipsify
    @mooselipsify 7 місяців тому

    Yahoo for life in prison! Free Palastine.