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  • The Telegraph, The Times, GB News and Unherd are all turning away from the Tories.
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    "Conservatives have never seen the right wing media so powerful and also so hostile to their party."
    Andrew Marr explains why the right wing press are shedding their support of the Conservative Party in favour of Richard Tice and Reform UK, and how the sale of the Telegraph could give rise to a new, powerful media empire to rival Rupert Murdoch's News UK.
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    Andrew Marr is Political Editor for the New Statesman, and is one of the UK's most senior political journalists. He spent over 20 years at the BBC where he was Political Editor and hosted the wildly successful Andrew Marr show. He is now based in Westminster where he brings his deep experience of political reporting to his analysis of the most important events in UK politics. He also hosts Tonight with Andrew Marr on LBC Radio.
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  • @NewStatesman
    @NewStatesman  3 місяці тому +21

    Watch next: Brexit has made Britain more multicultural - Andrew Marr: ua-cam.com/video/ci9j_-G3J_E/v-deo.html

  • @Kotch111
    @Kotch111 3 місяці тому +486

    This is why the UK needs a law requiring owners of media companies to be both UK citizens and UK TAXPAYERS. Rothermere is a tax exile and doesn’t give two figs what life in the UK is like, only that Billionaires can get richer.

    • @rickatatastan2695
      @rickatatastan2695 3 місяці тому

      Indeed. I'm sick of these non-dom, non-British (rothermere is apparently french), sinister foreign agents telling my which minority group to despise today. Taxpaying is the best way to make sure they're British. Cue the newspapers telling me to hate taxes ... hey, I love taxes - on the superRish.

    • @MatthewAndrewsStoryPortrait
      @MatthewAndrewsStoryPortrait 3 місяці тому +42

      and they should only be allowed 1 media outlet each.

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 3 місяці тому +16

      The Independent was owned by former KGB officer Alexander Lebedev until fairly recently. It's now 41% owned by his son, and 30% owned by a Saudi sheikh. Bill Gates part funds the Guardian but doesn't own it. It still creates a kind of client relationship.

    • @stevenpaterson5100
      @stevenpaterson5100 3 місяці тому +8

      No asset in the uk should ever be owned by anyone other than an indigenous Brit (min 10 generations on this island). 45 years of voting tory,NEVER AGAIN!! Only reform or harder right or this country is done.

    • @johnwright9372
      @johnwright9372 3 місяці тому +1

      Correct, and some standards need to held to ethical standards, but the Tories the Leveson Report.

  • @markwelch3564
    @markwelch3564 3 місяці тому +295

    It's almost like selling everything to the highest bidder has consequences...

    • @kincaidwolf5184
      @kincaidwolf5184 3 місяці тому +16

      You mean lowest bidder!

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 3 місяці тому +2

      YEP

    • @Rae-qf7xv
      @Rae-qf7xv 3 місяці тому

      Back handers and bribes = Tories.

    • @bigbarry8343
      @bigbarry8343 3 місяці тому +4

      @@kincaidwolf5184 yeah, how much tata and gupta paid to take over british industrial metals industry? if I remember correctly, they were actually subsidised by tax payers to take it over.

    • @AB-zl4nh
      @AB-zl4nh 3 місяці тому +7

      Labour needs to reform & better fund the BBC. We can't have billionaire elites hostile to British parliamentary democracy controlling most of our news media.

  • @vaughancapstick9961
    @vaughancapstick9961 3 місяці тому +47

    "The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
    Sigh...😢

  • @musicman5075
    @musicman5075 3 місяці тому +131

    Thanks for a fascinating analysis Andrew. I do wish Sunak and the Tories could give at least 5% of their concentration to the NHS and the cost of living crisis rather than the Rwanda deal and who owns the media outlets.

    • @sensiblename295
      @sensiblename295 3 місяці тому +6

      Nothing in it for them. At least with the media issue, there's a lucrative column deal in the offing.

    • @kincaidwolf5184
      @kincaidwolf5184 3 місяці тому +9

      It's all linked. Net immigration was over 700,000 this year. The huge population growth is unsustainable. In the past two years, immigration was the population of NI. In the past 5 years It's the population of Scotland. In the past 15 years, it's been the population of Wales, Scotland, and NI combined.

    • @JamesGaunt369
      @JamesGaunt369 3 місяці тому +8

      @@kincaidwolf5184 not linked at all, the vast majority of legal immigration is students/working age people. They don't drain NHS resources, they do contribute to taxes/exorbitant student fees.

    • @musicman5075
      @musicman5075 3 місяці тому +5

      @@kincaidwolf5184 How does that work? The office of budgetary responsibility (the government group set up by the tory party to make projections on the countries finances) states that immigrants pay more taxes per head than uk citizens and higher numbers of immigrants reduces national debt and pressure on taxes and services.

    • @jeffreyjoshuarollin9554
      @jeffreyjoshuarollin9554 3 місяці тому +4

      Expecting a Tory to care about the NHS or the poor is like expecting a cat to bark.

  • @stankarpenko
    @stankarpenko 3 місяці тому +170

    Who else is subscribed to this channel solely to follow Andrew Marr's outstanding commentary?

    • @crossy364
      @crossy364 3 місяці тому +14

      Love his monologues

    • @Aco747lyte
      @Aco747lyte 3 місяці тому +9

      I've always had a big respect for Andrew Marr; he speaks as he finds. Bravo! 🌻

    • @1erkyrob2
      @1erkyrob2 3 місяці тому +3

      Andrew Marr seems to have forgotten that all the editors he has listed are all TORIES.

    • @michaelkenny8540
      @michaelkenny8540 3 місяці тому +1

      I used to think like that-then I watched how (on LBC) he predicted there was no chance of Liz Truss sacking her Chancellor or being removed by The Tory Party.

    • @davidhardy9419
      @davidhardy9419 3 місяці тому +6

      I miss his Sunday morning sessions on the BBC! Kuensberg can't match him.

  • @kabl00muk94
    @kabl00muk94 3 місяці тому +140

    If the British public haven't clocked on to the whole 'Beware ex-car salesmen waving the British flag around' lesson by now, this really is the end of the UK as we've known it our whole lives...

    • @archvaldor
      @archvaldor 3 місяці тому +7

      I genuinely don't know who are you talking about now since that applies equally to both major parties.

    • @foolbritannia956
      @foolbritannia956 3 місяці тому +13

      @@archvaldor grow up

    • @handarokadath1515
      @handarokadath1515 3 місяці тому +5

      Think Brexit.​@@archvaldor

    • @quillo2747
      @quillo2747 3 місяці тому +8

      As oppose to the establishment political parties that have allowed millions of people into the coutnry that actualy is ending the UK as we've known it our whole lives.
      There are towns English people grew up in that are now Pakistani towns that Pakistanis grow up in.

    • @Lemonyora
      @Lemonyora 3 місяці тому +8

      @@quillo2747this is the result of the empire, of the commonwealth. Most Pakistani origin are hard working British citizens. There’s no need to be so hateful. Also the right wing governments have allowed more and more immigrants todo the jobs that you don’t want todo and to help stop population decline. You can fearmonger all you like and join populist causes but the fact of the matter is immigration has increased since brexit. There are just less immigrants from the EU now and more from third counties. Don’t buy into the lies of the right they don’t care about you and little will change in regards to immigration because capitalism demands cheap labour.

  • @tonyaustin4472
    @tonyaustin4472 3 місяці тому +40

    Oh my :-) you have to hand it to Murdoch: he did exactly the same for Blair….so it rings true doesn’t it. I’m old enough to remember George VI and it’s dawning on me that the next election, if I’m still here to see it, really has the prospect of witnessing the end of the Tories as we’ve known them. My father, a staunch Tory for all of his life, probably would say that the end of the Tories began with the election of Thatcher.
    I was watching the debate in the Lords over the Ruanda Treaty bill and I was suddenly struck by the contrast between the intellectual vigour of the members of the Lords as opposed to the current almost complete lack of the same in the Commons. Ironic isn’t it that if one wants to see a proper thoughtful examination of the facts one has to turn to the unelected body rather than the elected one. :-)

    • @paulcasey5204
      @paulcasey5204 3 місяці тому +4

      Indeed so, or at least amongst those who bother to turn up. Can i recommend Rory Stewart's most recent book to you as a real insight into the Commons and the denizens that inhabit it. Or, perhaps not, it will give you nightmares.

    • @mickmcnich
      @mickmcnich 3 місяці тому +3

      Could not agree more. I am very afraid of the populist style of politicians and voters who appear to not put too much thought or due diligence into proposals before the house.

  • @bonk5207
    @bonk5207 3 місяці тому +26

    Thank you Andrew Marr - you can’t know how much your intelligent, insightful journalism means to so many of us at this time.

  • @ramansharma6986
    @ramansharma6986 3 місяці тому +63

    Hell, I love this man. I know it’s his job to be absolutely on top of his game but to make it so accessible, interesting and concise is an art and he does that by the spadeful. If nothing else, it helps to really challenge your own thinking and loyalties. Marrsterclass!

    • @wyzachidmond
      @wyzachidmond 3 місяці тому +4

      Hear hear

    • @cupguin
      @cupguin 3 місяці тому

      Really? He spends more time on Tice, making it seem like the Tories are facing losses to Reform rather than on the actual oppression likely to win the next election. While clearly Labour is moving to the center to pick up votes the Tories attempting to move further right in response has clearly backfired because the bulk of the votes, as always, are at the fringes. Even the Telegraph's ridiculous poll wasn't properly explained. It wasn't a choice between two candidates. The question that leads to a massive Tory win is a hypothetical leader who can essentially magically solve everything before the election. Lower taxes, balance the budget, massively up funding for the NHS and give everyone their own unicorn. Not quite that bad but a poll expert did call it "one of the worst polling questions I’ve ever seen" and yet people are treating it with complete credulity because it's in the Telegraph.
      His insights into the current media landscape are interesting but rewatch it and see how little balance is given between Labour vs Reform. Yes Reform matters but they haven't won a single by-election which is when we should be seeing their best chances.

    • @richardlenthall1268
      @richardlenthall1268 3 місяці тому +1

      I couldn't agree more. As long as you have this man (and those like him) speaking frankly, transparently, and without an overarching political agenda, to the people then at least we know the UK is not completely sunk.

    • @angelapendlebury3971
      @angelapendlebury3971 3 місяці тому

      Totally agree...well put!

  • @angussoutter7824
    @angussoutter7824 3 місяці тому +46

    And that is what this country needs a Leveson 2 inquiry and then fully enacted to ensure we have journalists doing their job not their masters bidding

    • @thetragicyouth
      @thetragicyouth 3 місяці тому

      No surprise at all that the cowardly Red Tory Starmer has caved in to Murdoch and Dacre. If only there were a real centre-left party to vote for instead of the ghastly Heir Blair Bunch.

    • @glassmuxxic
      @glassmuxxic 3 місяці тому +4

      You could have saved yourself some characters by simply typing 'Only journalists who largely agree with my worldview should be allowed.'

    • @AB-zl4nh
      @AB-zl4nh 3 місяці тому +1

      Plus, Labour needs to reform & better fund the BBC. We can't have billionaire elites hostile to British parliamentary democracy controlling most of our news media.

    • @MrBizteck
      @MrBizteck 3 місяці тому

      ​@@glassmuxxichow in the origional comment can you get THAT take away ?
      Your showing Stupidy thats borderline criminal!

  • @flyingdutchman3483
    @flyingdutchman3483 3 місяці тому +120

    I wish we could lose the foreign owned anti British right wing press as well.

    • @LightninBolt
      @LightninBolt 3 місяці тому +1

      Loose goose moose. Lose = lose

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 3 місяці тому

      @@LightninBolt Rhymes with dose?

    • @ScratchySlide
      @ScratchySlide 3 місяці тому

      Nothing more anti British than left wing everything.

    • @flyingdutchman3483
      @flyingdutchman3483 3 місяці тому

      Does it.. 🧐

    • @AB-zl4nh
      @AB-zl4nh 3 місяці тому +3

      Labour needs to reform & better fund the BBC. We can't have billionaire elites hostile to British parliamentary democracy controlling most of our news media.

  • @NeilEvans-xq8ik
    @NeilEvans-xq8ik 3 місяці тому +15

    "An extinction level event for the Conservative party". That put a big, beaming smile on my face.

    • @Kicklighter.A
      @Kicklighter.A 3 місяці тому

      It won’t in 5 or ten years when an Orban style right wing government get into power.

    • @RichardBrooklyn
      @RichardBrooklyn 3 місяці тому +2

      Careful what you wish for... The alternative might be worse.

    • @lusciouslou250272159
      @lusciouslou250272159 3 місяці тому

      @@RichardBrooklyn Exactly. If we've learned anything about US politics its that the middle-of-the-road Tories will vote for the Reform party if the conservatives can't win.

  • @pippaleighton3278
    @pippaleighton3278 3 місяці тому +7

    Andrew Marr is such an excellent journalist. Always so insightful.

  • @hohohohehehe6910
    @hohohohehehe6910 3 місяці тому +33

    It's about time the media realised how bad its got.

    • @TheLucanicLord
      @TheLucanicLord 3 місяці тому

      They think the Toerags aren't right wing _enough;_ they want to make things worse.

    • @vinylrulesok8470
      @vinylrulesok8470 3 місяці тому +2

      They're entirely self serving and twist the truth to suit their narrative. There are a few exceptions like the Guardianv and Channel 4 but too few and far between

    • @randomrandomness8743
      @randomrandomness8743 3 місяці тому

      The media are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

  • @JohnHillRSNStudios
    @JohnHillRSNStudios 3 місяці тому +24

    This election isn’t reminding me of 1997 but of the one in Canada in 1993, where the Progressive Conservative Party went from a majority government to just two seats and their Reform Party went on to become the major conservative party in Canada until they merged with the PC and became the Conservative Party that is the main opposition to the Liberals in Ottawa today.

    • @user-gd1yg6le1h
      @user-gd1yg6le1h 3 місяці тому

      Reform is or will sell the nation down the river totally in in the hand s of hedge funds and Brexit billionaires only for the few some not British the Tory near the same.

  • @angusmalcolm7738
    @angusmalcolm7738 3 місяці тому +13

    Brilliant analysis. Thank you as ever for providing insight amidst insanity, Andrew.

  • @MarkInOxford
    @MarkInOxford 3 місяці тому +31

    The most fascinating 16:36 I have watched for a very long time. Andrew Marr is a colossus and absolutely unsurpassed in the world of political commentary.

    • @therealrobertbirchall
      @therealrobertbirchall 3 місяці тому +2

      'Not all Conservatives are stupid, but all stupid people are Conservatives.' JS Mill

    • @coverful78
      @coverful78 3 місяці тому +1

      Have you seen the average leftist? 😅 you are deluded

  • @martynhaggerty2294
    @martynhaggerty2294 3 місяці тому +7

    Poor old blighty.. the dying embers of a once mighty empire.

    • @XYZ-td6sn
      @XYZ-td6sn 3 місяці тому +3

      It truly fascinates me more people aren’t seeing it this way, the country is finished any attempts to fix things or resume some sort of normality are pointless. I left in 2021 age 27, and never intend to return. Incredibly sad.

    • @Andrew-ti8hi
      @Andrew-ti8hi 3 місяці тому

      @martyn Does it affect North London?

    • @paulgibbon5991
      @paulgibbon5991 3 місяці тому +1

      You should find some random people from India, Ireland or the native people of Canada or Australia, and ask them if they think the British Empire being gone is a bad thing.

  • @Bar-Hillel
    @Bar-Hillel 3 місяці тому +7

    Love listening to Andrew. I feel he is one of the old style journalists who gives facts, balanced opinion and is actually trustworthy. We need more of his like.

    • @martydav9475
      @martydav9475 3 місяці тому +1

      Absolutely - he's a quality journalist and broadcaster.

    • @silondon9010
      @silondon9010 3 місяці тому

      Balanced opinion 😂😂😂

  • @east-saxon
    @east-saxon 3 місяці тому +8

    Andrew’s insights are always so helpful to understand what’s really going on….brilliant journalism. But also scary how so much influence is concentrated into a small group of people who are basically “playing” the British public.

  • @gregory-white
    @gregory-white 3 місяці тому +7

    Commentary accurate as usual. He pursues facts, not emotions.

  • @trashman1358
    @trashman1358 3 місяці тому +17

    Great journalism! Well researched and didn't pander to the usual tropes. Keep it up!

  • @darrenwilson8042
    @darrenwilson8042 3 місяці тому +5

    The fact that so many of these sleazy shadowy figures are " Sirs " tells you how dodgy it all is - and I include the honours system in that

  • @JRattheranch
    @JRattheranch 3 місяці тому +25

    Listening intently to your discourse Andrew and having listened for many years! I'm really thankful that you appear to have overcome your debilitating stroke , to be able to focus so clearly on the current political predicament, which you've been brilliant at for years! Full of admiration for a voice of stable assessment in these turbulent times!

    • @HealthyMindProject
      @HealthyMindProject 3 місяці тому +1

      He is brilliant. I regularly listen to political commentators such as James O'Brien, Nick Ferrari, but I always find Andew Marr's to tbe the most engaging and captivating.

  • @geofflittler2035
    @geofflittler2035 3 місяці тому +8

    I never in my life thought that I would witness anybody so out of touch with reality as Liz "Lady Lettuce' Truss. Along comes Sunak and makes her appear positively grounded.

    • @Andrew-ti8hi
      @Andrew-ti8hi 3 місяці тому +2

      @geoff A little name calling to disguise the fact you have nothing to offer. Didn't work tragically!😊

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 3 місяці тому

      At least she had some ideas. Even if they were bad ones.

    • @geofflittler2035
      @geofflittler2035 3 місяці тому

      @Andrew I feel I should be allowed at least a little bit of name calling when I am forced to sit and watch while these charlatans turn my country and my society into a banana republic. The economic illiteracy that they both portray suggests they do not have the ability to run a bath.

    • @MeeesterBond17
      @MeeesterBond17 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@andybrice2711 She did have ideas, and reminded me of the old quote "Whoever is stupid and industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous." - allegedly from Kurt von Hammerstein

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@MeeesterBond17 Well that's the thing. If a leader comes out and says _"Here's my grand plan."_ then at least the public have a chance to respond _"That sounds terrible and you should resign."_ Sunak just makes vague promises about steadying the economy whilst everything slowly declines.

  • @philipsmith7913
    @philipsmith7913 3 місяці тому +8

    An excellent article on the background to media allegiances (and the owners). Great “real” journalism and very enlightening.

    • @hurri7720
      @hurri7720 3 місяці тому

      Well, you cannot call a country, a people, enlightened ending up like this. And that is the real problem.

    • @philipsmith7913
      @philipsmith7913 3 місяці тому

      @@hurri7720 I didn’t. I said I was enlightened at the changes in media allegiance. However, I feel you are generalising in stating that “a country, a people” are necessarily unenlightened.. Your comments sound good but mean little

  • @AliHassan-hb1bn
    @AliHassan-hb1bn 3 місяці тому +31

    I live here in London for about 24 years and remember when even small businesses were making big profits but today I only see dark clouds gathering from everywhere, politicians don't feel their responsibilities and if they say Thatcher was responsible for all this mess we are in that is far away past and she can't hide any one.

    • @thomaswilliams6690
      @thomaswilliams6690 3 місяці тому +8

      She's not the current cause of infection but she may have been patient zero in the UK

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 3 місяці тому

      Most of our problems are self inflicted, usually caused by over regulation. It's a nightmare for anyone trying to do anything in this country.
      We're also tied hand and foot to agreements we've foolishly signed with supra national organisations. There is a serious proposal from the World Health Organisation, which is a private organisation funded by the likes of Bill Gates, that in the event of an emergency ( a term that is not defined in the document ) the WHO can override governments and order a lockdown in countries that have signed the document. Why would any country even consider this after the damage caused by the last lockdown. It's utter madness, but typical of administrators unwilling to protect their own country. Unfortunately those are the kind of people we have in charge at the moment and typical of the reason why everything is failing these days.

    • @taneejaram489
      @taneejaram489 3 місяці тому

      Agree. As soon as small businesses made a profit, billionnaires or big companies buy them out. Kids' tuition centres, small shops, cafes are some examples. Schools, NHS, Transport are all run by billionnaires.

    • @christophergill-qn1ui
      @christophergill-qn1ui 2 місяці тому

      Housings policy in UK is a total joke ! I started working
      In it as a planner 1970 .Nothing has changed !

  • @jordan-kj1bh
    @jordan-kj1bh 3 місяці тому +4

    We NEED a leverson 2 inquiry
    We NEED media scrutiny and reform.

  • @donkeytonk
    @donkeytonk 3 місяці тому +13

    Andrew Marr is a real treasure

  • @richierich7609
    @richierich7609 3 місяці тому +5

    Brilliant analysis. I never miss these. Thank you.

  • @helenhiggs6171
    @helenhiggs6171 3 місяці тому +8

    At the end of this lets hope that the right wing media, the Tories and the further right factions will finally get that it's not about them, it's about the people of the United Kingdom, who have struggled on ungoverned for many years

  • @dreamcrusher112
    @dreamcrusher112 3 місяці тому +21

    I have had enough of this country. Falling apart at the seams.

    • @jonnyenglish36
      @jonnyenglish36 3 місяці тому

      It fell apart some time ago

    • @LordOfLight
      @LordOfLight 3 місяці тому

      Did you vote for Brexit?

    • @dreamcrusher112
      @dreamcrusher112 3 місяці тому

      @@LordOfLight I was not old enough to vote about Brexit in 2016.

    • @LordOfLight
      @LordOfLight 3 місяці тому

      @@dreamcrusher112 Would you have done?

    • @dreamcrusher112
      @dreamcrusher112 3 місяці тому

      @@LordOfLight nope.

  • @sylviawilliams8333
    @sylviawilliams8333 3 місяці тому +5

    Than you Andrew for your interesting and informative journalism .

  • @martinvaux9843
    @martinvaux9843 3 місяці тому +7

    A splendid piece of work, Mr Marr! Very much enjoyed it, and found it useful to hear your analysis, as well as a few bits and pieces from behind the curtain. Between these editorials and your shows on LBC (which I enjoy as podcasts) I'm very happy. Much more Andrew Marr per week than we've had for many years! And although I very much miss your Sunday programme, not least the time you had with some of the bigger beasts of the day on that show, this all marks a definite net gain. More power to you. And perhaps it's time for a sequel to My Trade? After all, the newspaper and media landscape has changed so much since you wrote that excellent book. I'd be very interested in hearing a developed, extended take from you on that ongoing transformation, which, of course, is discussed here in part. 👍

  • @michaelpolya4924
    @michaelpolya4924 3 місяці тому +7

    Thank you Andrew for this spot on analysis of the media landscape in the UK. The prospect is horrifying and it heralds further destruction of British democracy.

  • @jeremynoble931
    @jeremynoble931 3 місяці тому +3

    Fascinating. Joining up the dots in a way you won't find anywhere else.

  • @VeronicaS50
    @VeronicaS50 3 місяці тому +3

    Absolutely brilliant! More like this, please, Andrew!

  • @mhoppy6639
    @mhoppy6639 3 місяці тому +26

    Dacre is a truly horrible individual and there’s plenty of evidence out there of his malign influence on politics in general and newspapers in particular. I sincerely hope his parent company doesn’t get hold of the telegraph.

    • @UKAlanR
      @UKAlanR 3 місяці тому +1

      Not sure it could actually become any worse

    • @mhoppy6639
      @mhoppy6639 3 місяці тому

      @@UKAlanR fair point. Great sport section though. 😉

  • @wesleygold7997
    @wesleygold7997 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Andrew. Refreshing to have a media commentator as revered as you, who is also unshackled. In a way your own migration from an institutional behemoth to the “outside world” was an indicator of this change!

  • @j.4332
    @j.4332 3 місяці тому +3

    Most people,even those who voted for Johnson in 2019 now despise Sunak.Just want rid of him and his cronies like Hunt and Cameron.They say"Well,you vote for a party,NOT a person".Yeah?Most people voted FOR Boris.No-one asked about Sunak.

  • @iangrundy758
    @iangrundy758 3 місяці тому +42

    Who cares who will be the next Conservative or, indeed, Reform leader, when neither will have any influence in the UK politics over the next possible ten-year tenure of the Labour party government!

    • @PassiveAgressive319
      @PassiveAgressive319 3 місяці тому +8

      I dunno, I think we are heading towards US far right wing politics. Look at Biden, even as President - the right dominate wing American politics ( yes a different system but becoming eerily similar here)

    • @yeahsureimdownforthat1698
      @yeahsureimdownforthat1698 3 місяці тому

      Sadly, I have to agree. Horrifying. Never wanted to be more incorrect about something in my life. @@PassiveAgressive319

    • @harrypainter7472
      @harrypainter7472 3 місяці тому +1

      Whoever is the Tory or Reform leader (whichever emerges as the opposition) after this election will have an impossible task, kind of like William Hague after 1997, because if Labour get a landslide this election then a second election victory is pretty likely. I think the opposition leader after that second election will be the one to look out for.

    • @0w784g
      @0w784g 3 місяці тому

      Labour will have total control on a miniscule share of the popular vote. If you think that's healthy, you should probably think again.

    • @archvaldor
      @archvaldor 3 місяці тому +2

      "Who cares who will be the next Conservative or, indeed, Reform leader, when neither will have any influence in the UK politics over the next possible ten-year tenure of the Labour party government!" Except in determining what Labour's actual policies are.

  • @suemorris9453
    @suemorris9453 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant! Hoping Andrews perceptions of where media are heading very much come to fruition.

  • @accesszero4803
    @accesszero4803 3 місяці тому +4

    I think many are like me. Am a Conservative, and a business owner, but i dont feel the Conservatives arnt Conservatives anymore. And the biggest issue is the fact i just cant vote for the leader

  • @pollymath2010
    @pollymath2010 3 місяці тому +3

    So the Murdoch team spotted lunching with the Starmer team just before Christmas?! I bet that didn’t appear on the BBC or the Guardian!

  • @keesreinderkoopstra5284
    @keesreinderkoopstra5284 3 місяці тому +24

    The media should report without taking a position. Let people make up their own mind.

    • @pbtips1
      @pbtips1 3 місяці тому

      If there is an empty space, where the mind is, it has already been filled, with small boats bad brexit could have been done better, Labour bad; BBC biaised; EU are bullies; Boris did his best

    • @arieltejera8079
      @arieltejera8079 3 місяці тому +1

      The media should report both sides of the coin.

    • @MeeesterBond17
      @MeeesterBond17 3 місяці тому

      I partially agree, but I strongly recommend "Re-thinking Objectivity", an article by Brent Cunningham in 2003. Objectivity is great in theory, but impractical in reality. My opinion is that if people go to only one source for news, no matter how neutral, they're too lazy to make up their own minds.

    • @cupguin
      @cupguin 3 місяці тому

      Nice idea but in reality impossible. Look at the Post Office scandal. People have been reporting on that for years without anyone seeming to care. The amount of coverage in the more popular news sources clearly mattered more than if people cared about the facts of the story since after those became known everyone cared. And even more importantly arguably the dry facts weren't getting people involved but a fictionalized and emotive story did get the population invested.
      And realistically that's true about countless other stories. Look at the Philip Schofield and Huw Edwards media blitzes. Not exactly moral pillars but also not accused of crimes. Also both of them were the single biggest news story for days. Meanwhile look at Dan Wootton, clearly not as well known a celebrity but was a fairly well known media figure. Where is the media coverage about the allegations he's facing? Because those include actual unambiguous crimes. There's massive overlap between all three stories and if you were upset about Edwards or Schofield, outside of partisan reasons, the Wootton story in theory is even more of a bombshell. Yet all the factual reporting has gone nowhere. And I'd argue there are plenty of less emotive news sources but people simply aren't reading those when they can go for think pieces and fake outrage.

    • @jonnyenglish36
      @jonnyenglish36 3 місяці тому +1

      bet you all still pay the licence fee for woke bbc

  • @markjohnson4717
    @markjohnson4717 3 місяці тому +1

    This mans voice is a very calming prediction of the political world as usual, Marr will forever be good to listen to !

  • @pmreid4262
    @pmreid4262 2 місяці тому

    From Canada : very, very interesting and informative. Thank You!

  • @craigreilly2603
    @craigreilly2603 3 місяці тому +6

    Interesting and insightful analysis Andrew. In reality how the Broadsheets divide is irrelevant, if Murdoch and by extension The Sun come out for Labour (for whatever reason) it's over for the Tories.

  • @ndavies8
    @ndavies8 3 місяці тому +4

    Intelligent facts as always. Venture Capital has no business in news and media. Thats a can of worms that everyone almost always regrets

  • @ShowRyuKen
    @ShowRyuKen 3 місяці тому +2

    Smashing summary and analysis, and very well-delivered.

  • @marksimons8861
    @marksimons8861 3 місяці тому +1

    The staff need to take over the Telegraph and run it as a cooperative.

  • @DamienRowatt
    @DamienRowatt 3 місяці тому +3

    Very informative. As a general observer of current affairs I would say the analysis of the state of play is pretty accurate.

  • @georgesotiriou7051
    @georgesotiriou7051 3 місяці тому +3

    Great analysis.

  • @MargaretJordan-wu1vt
    @MargaretJordan-wu1vt 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for a coherent analysis of tide of change coming.

  • @pastyman001
    @pastyman001 27 днів тому

    Top class analysis as ever from Marr. "He's simply the best.....better than all the rest"

  • @joefarrow1599
    @joefarrow1599 3 місяці тому +10

    So, labour move right and get voted in, and the tories are wiped out and replaced with reform uk. This autumn, labour are in and that's net positive, but on the whole british politics have shifted to the right in a world that's already very favourable to right wing politics and increasing wealth inequality. Seems a bit bleak.

    • @Noallegiance
      @Noallegiance 3 місяці тому +5

      Labour a net positive.
      Now I've heard it all.

    • @rachelmatthews3070
      @rachelmatthews3070 3 місяці тому

      Imperfect politics for an imperfect world. Remember that a Tory/rightwing govt will never give working people anything that they actually need. It's completely antithetical to their ideology. At least with Labour we have a chance.

    • @JD83000
      @JD83000 3 місяці тому +2

      Something needs to break. Either the Tory party, or the FPTP electoral system. Things can't carry on as they are.

    • @adam7802
      @adam7802 3 місяці тому

      What is labour going to do that is actually going to benefit us? I don't think increasing our taxes and (presumably) reversing the recent immigration changes are going to benefit any of us.

    • @joefarrow1599
      @joefarrow1599 3 місяці тому

      ​@@adam7802well, the Tories have a vested interest in for example moving the NHS towards a more privatised system. So if Labour increase taxes, the money will be more likely to get spent on improving the NHS. Also I think Starmer was talking about tighter economic integration with the EU

  • @skinwalker_
    @skinwalker_ 3 місяці тому +16

    If Labour get a massive majority then we can implement massive press reforms.

    • @georgesdelatour
      @georgesdelatour 3 місяці тому

      Labour is very much the anti-free speech Party, so that's to be expected. They're committed to introducing a law which defines Islamophobia as racism. It's effectively a blasphemy law. If a brown-skinned Hindu criticises the religious opinions of white British converts to Islam, that's racism, apparently.

    • @johnfaulkner6776
      @johnfaulkner6776 3 місяці тому

      Yes. Like Russia you could abolish it!

    • @TheKipperedOne
      @TheKipperedOne 3 місяці тому +1

      Don't hold your breath. These press barons are extremely powerful. I agree that we need massive reforms but I can't see it ever happening.

    • @Madame702
      @Madame702 3 місяці тому

      No your talking. Because that what is needed these right wing newspapers couldn't even run a small country with their economic policies.

    • @jeanmyers1787
      @jeanmyers1787 3 місяці тому

      I’m not so sure, Starmer is fervent Zionist so would present more problems. Although I would certainly not vote Tory it’s very different to know who to vote for?

  • @RicWales
    @RicWales 3 місяці тому +1

    Dear Andrew, I hated your pro-euorpean crap expressed during the "B" referendum. However as a 110% Brexiteer I think your reading of the current UK political situation is spot on. I'm aware of many members of our local Tory Association who are horrified by what the MPs have done in Westminster since Boris, but including the way the got rid of Boris. Loyalty is an important thing in the Conservative Party. I already have a "ReformUK" badge to wear on my lapel. A lot of us Tories luv Nigel, because we have known him for years....! GO NIGEL....!!!

    • @martydav9475
      @martydav9475 3 місяці тому

      The Tories are always ruthless in getting rid of unpopular leaders who have led them to electoral defeat or are going to lead them to electoral defeat. It's why they got rid of Margaret Thatcher, Iain Duncan Smith, Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. Sunak's a decent bloke but it was always a poisoned chalice leading this particular Tory Party. Will it split into two separate Parties with the One Nation Tories and the Right-wing Tories going their separate ways or will the Centrists bide their time and hope the tide eventually turns in their favour?

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for posting.

  • @paultaylor7082
    @paultaylor7082 3 місяці тому +7

    You Gov disowned the Telegraph's interpretation of the poll within 12 hours of the paper making it, it assumes every single voter who didn't vote Tory because of Reform would return to the Toriesd if Reform didn't stand. That is utter nonsense, something that no sensible psephologist would suggest, it's simply a Torygraph opinion not based on actual facts.

  • @tobywiddop4817
    @tobywiddop4817 3 місяці тому +3

    Maybe it's time to look st ownership rules for British media companies. Seems like you might get X-party support if they're hostile to both sides. Say... you have to be a British citizen to own one? Doesn't sound too radical.

  • @pappaxray2
    @pappaxray2 3 місяці тому

    Fascinating insights, was a great watch!

  • @talesofcanterbury42
    @talesofcanterbury42 3 місяці тому +2

    Great stuff Andrew. Thank you.

  • @AlexLancashirePersonalView
    @AlexLancashirePersonalView 3 місяці тому +3

    Whatever happens, Andrew, we are all DOOMED.

    • @jontalbot1
      @jontalbot1 3 місяці тому +2

      I’m not.

    • @andybrice2711
      @andybrice2711 3 місяці тому

      Don't be so dramatic. Except for poorer people suffering high inflation, this is one of the safest times to alive in the entirety of human history.

    • @tefalhead7396
      @tefalhead7396 3 місяці тому

      @@andybrice2711 We're causing a mass extinction of animals and plants, and climate change is starting to bite. The population is still increasing - will go above 10 billion this century. All reasons that this ''safest times to be alive' is incorrect.

  • @edbop
    @edbop 3 місяці тому +3

    Because journalists like to think they are insightful and the owners of media companies want leverage; a dish cloth could beat the Tories in the next election so they are just positioning themselves for the inevitable.

  • @prnicho
    @prnicho 3 місяці тому +2

    One of the memories of TV images from the early ‘60’s I share with others of a certain age is MacMillan looking patrician, statesmanlike, smiling and comfortable walking across the airport tarmac next to a similarly smiling JFK. The absolute end of an era.

  • @petertarleton8924
    @petertarleton8924 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you, Andrew, refreshing and thought-provoking, as usual

  • @PlanofBattle
    @PlanofBattle 3 місяці тому +4

    I’ll say it again. The fruits of the 2019 GE Tory victory laid the seeds of future ruin.
    Andrew, this was brilliant. Thank you.

  • @michaelstanley3961
    @michaelstanley3961 3 місяці тому +4

    As a true Conservative, this shower have had their time, we need a time in the wilderness and get back to true conservative values and get rid of this batch of self serving charlatans.

    • @1297wombat
      @1297wombat 3 місяці тому +2

      Glad to see that even ideological conservatives can see this shower for what they are.

    • @blazzz13
      @blazzz13 3 місяці тому

      @michaelstanley3961 what in your view constitutes a 'true conservative'? credit for acknowledging the failure of this current shower.

  • @Barnabybright
    @Barnabybright 3 місяці тому +2

    How did this happen? Because they trashed the country, Andrew. Help them pack their bags!

  • @davidkennedy6812
    @davidkennedy6812 3 місяці тому +1

    First class analysis as always. Sixty years on I have started subscribing to the NS as my old grandfather did in the 1960s.

  • @rw20000
    @rw20000 3 місяці тому +4

    I'm watching this from Australia and desperately hope that our country can find a way to be as politically engaged. It seems as if apathy has enabled scumbags like Sunak and Johnson to get away with governing for moneyed interests. Very sad to see and unfortunately something we are starting to experience

    • @paulgibbon5991
      @paulgibbon5991 3 місяці тому

      Look at Russia for the final form of a country where people "don't care about politics".

  • @willyum3920
    @willyum3920 3 місяці тому +3

    Starmer doing a deal with Murdoch is the best news I've had all day. Obviously the system is perpetually terribly broken if I think that but also it does give him the best chance of winning (just ask Blair.) A politicians job is to win people over and win an election. That's what makes them a good politician. Representing your constituency well makes them a good MP which is a different thing.
    It's a smart political move to woo Murdoch and I'm glad Starmer is. Its a terrible political move to pin your hopes on a nonsensical Rwanda policy, pick a fight with the Greek PM, reboot your campaign every other week lurching from very right wing to centre ground and/or talk about investing in the future of the country the day you cancel the biggest and only massive investment project at the time etc.
    I know what the polls say but it certainly ain't over until it's over and I'll be sure Labour win the day after it actually happens. Where social media and all the AI fakes takes us from now until the election is anyone's guess.

    • @petertherealist7089
      @petertherealist7089 3 місяці тому +1

      He's done no deal with Murdoch as you well know, and nor does he need to Murdoch as very little influence compared to 1997 , but why let the truth get in the way of a daft story, I can only assume this video is satire

    • @thetragicyouth
      @thetragicyouth 3 місяці тому +1

      "A politicians job is to win people over and win an election." No, the important thing is what you do AFTER winning power. Starmer has demonstrated no ambition to do anything other than maintain a Conservative status quo. All his big ideas, pledges and commitments have been either abandoned, compromised or downgraded to mere 'aspirations'. Murdoch (who is not a British citizen and pays no personal tax in the UK) has had the most pernicious influence on British public life for as long as I can remember and I certainly won't be voting for anyone who is going to keep letting him do it.

  • @joannelewis3390
    @joannelewis3390 3 місяці тому +1

    They've made life so hard for so many people

  • @thomasrobinson4401
    @thomasrobinson4401 3 місяці тому +2

    Very interesting. Thank you 👍

  • @corintaylor-salter2059
    @corintaylor-salter2059 3 місяці тому +6

    You didn't once point out that Murdoch, Rothermere, along with the previous and potential owners of 'The Telegraph' are extreme right wing, tax avoiding fascists? Thanks for the insight . . . . . . .

  • @nikkihamilton4374
    @nikkihamilton4374 3 місяці тому +3

    Vote Reform!

  • @benthatcher1772
    @benthatcher1772 3 місяці тому +1

    This was an absolutely brilliant bit of insight - well done New Statesman and Marr

  • @angelapendlebury3971
    @angelapendlebury3971 3 місяці тому +1

    This was a really interesting narrative and reflection on the state of the government currently! I enjoyed listening...keep it coming! 😊

  • @Schiltron
    @Schiltron 3 місяці тому +10

    The terms "right-wing" and "left-wing" as they were used until relatively recently are now out of date. It is perfectly possible to have a socialist viewpoint on the economy and equally be unhappy about mass migration and gender and race identity politics.

    • @Frithogar
      @Frithogar 3 місяці тому +7

      That sounds like, "I'm vegan, except for cheese, eggs and bacon."

    • @davidmullens2464
      @davidmullens2464 3 місяці тому

      True but the actual purveyors of Right wing politics be it RefUk or the right of the Tories will NEVER deliver anything even remotely socialist, they're all free-marketeers and globalists.
      Further their attraction to gender & race is surely just populist convenience rather than any deep seated principle. The Left of course very largely has it's head down at the possibility of Starmer giving them jobs.

    • @richardh8082
      @richardh8082 3 місяці тому +5

      @Schiltron Sounds like "I'm not a racist, but..." (On second thought, it just sounds racist mate)

    • @mrD66M
      @mrD66M 3 місяці тому

      Possible? Where/when has this happened?

    • @Anmeteor9663
      @Anmeteor9663 3 місяці тому +1

      The hint is in the word, Socialist. It's about society as whole and not just the economy. The two are social structures and economic ones that are so intertwined it is a logical fallacy to try and separate them.

  • @jasonedwards6870
    @jasonedwards6870 3 місяці тому +1

    Great analysis. TQ❤

  • @angusp5178
    @angusp5178 3 місяці тому +1

    Top quality commentary, thank you

  • @aperson251
    @aperson251 3 місяці тому +1

    Incredible video thank you

  • @brouettesylvie8077
    @brouettesylvie8077 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant.Thank you!

  • @Simon-zb6fp
    @Simon-zb6fp 3 місяці тому

    One of your best videos because you are providing analysis on a topic which you are an expert on instead of lecturing us what to think on policy. Thank you.

  • @tobiasfucke
    @tobiasfucke 3 місяці тому +1

    This is great, fascinating

  • @heathermalcolm7639
    @heathermalcolm7639 3 місяці тому

    Fascinating. Thank you.

  • @normasarsby1350
    @normasarsby1350 3 місяці тому +2

    We are all doomed.

  • @murraymorison3924
    @murraymorison3924 3 місяці тому

    Fantastic analysis. Thanks for sharing, Andrew.

  • @jameshill8711
    @jameshill8711 3 місяці тому

    Greatly informative summary, thankyou Andrew.

  • @andrewwjmamo9707
    @andrewwjmamo9707 3 місяці тому

    Spot on!

  • @janetpazio9992
    @janetpazio9992 3 місяці тому

    As always an excellent analysis. Thankyou Andrew

  • @terrymolloy2246
    @terrymolloy2246 3 місяці тому +1

    Well done Mr. Marr.

  • @larryselinker9372
    @larryselinker9372 3 місяці тому

    insightful, as ever.

  • @johnshaw9578
    @johnshaw9578 3 місяці тому

    Really enjoyed it, great insight 😮

  • @mzo.7333
    @mzo.7333 3 місяці тому +2

    Its quite pathetic how our politics.. which should be about the people... has become about who can appeal to the media more. Its not a bloody sitcom.. its peoples lives

  • @malcolmdennis7083
    @malcolmdennis7083 3 місяці тому

    You're great Andrew

  • @simoneh1639
    @simoneh1639 3 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting commentary

  • @Jon-hh3gz
    @Jon-hh3gz 3 місяці тому

    I've been waiting a loooong timee for this moment, my little blue frienddd HAHAHAHAHAHA