This Bronze Tank thinks THIS is what wins games... | Spectating Bronze
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Everyone was playing ranked while this tank was playing mystery heroes
nah he was just playing ranked mystery heroes lmao
He took tank can you switch to heart
Mystery tank^
Emmong said skill issue in the most polite way lol
I think the main issue with counter swapping is if your a tank and you know it exists at least in the lower ranks i think you just end up psyching yourself out and tilting when the enemy team starts counter swapping. I know for sure I have lost games because of that.
And you never get an ult because it always resets to 25%
“Why do you jump so much?” I need to raise my actions per minute
I know that this was recorded before the mei updates, but i can say for sure that she is powerful. the amount of control she can have is insane. I out tank my tank simply by just playing Mei and focusing enemy tank. More CC was not what Overwatch Needed.
That was Mei before the updates too.
@@foldedcandlemei changes were not a nerf, overall she's stronger but you have to change up your playstyle to match
@@diablotry5154 since her damage is significantly lower for the cc that other characters use to finish them off, it does make mei feel more like a support. so not a nerf but not fun to play or play against.
@@PurpleMoon799 well her dps is reduced but she can deal significantly more damage with an icicle now because of the bonus. A headshot after freeze has been applied means pretty much every non tank is dead instantly, no matter what
When players jump too much when I'm healing on bap and they jump over my healing I am mad lol
Exactly!! I get so annoyed when people dodge my heals and I'm just like "Do you want to be healed or not??" .. I always think about just not healing them but I always end up healing them anyway because I don't want to throw 😭
Basic rule of thumb: if you are outside of top 500, counter swapping isn’t the issue. It’s a skill issue.
18:48 that Orisa's pose 😂
Is there a counterpicking issue in the current meta? I'd say so.
That being said, a single hero countering you is nothing insurmountable so long as you don't try to engage them head-on.
yeah, it's important to take advantage (as best as one can) of the strengths of your chosen hero and minimize your weaknesses and the enemy's strength
A counter picking “issue”? Overwatch has had counter swaps since day 1. But only at the highest level of play. Anything outside of top 500 and it isn’t a counter swap issue, it’s a skill issue. Accurate play cannot be countered.
Just because someone counter swaps it doesn't mean they know how to play the hero. If someone swaps to your "counter" then you see their profile and they have only 2 hours on the hero....lol. So much of the tank 1v1 is your mental and creativity to approaching problems that seem insurmountable such as counter swaps.
Did the blue team Moira ever intentionally heal the tank? Feels like we need to start having a "tiktok Moira" counter on these spectating bronze videos
I’m pretty sure she healed a bunch. It’s a bronze game, so she’s not playing perfect but you also have to take into account that the blue team’s support comp is ana-moira. Ana’s probably doing the bulk of the heals.
Usually I try to counterswap the enemy getting them most value. If I see a genji rolling my team and a Lucio being a nuisance, I’ll swap Winston and make it work.
I also jump all the time and it's not clear why, because in other games I don't have this habit
I think he thought it was Tuesday
1:40 rofl *..if it would i would not complain that would be funny as hell ....* xD
Sometimes its necessary to shake the tree till the desired fruit fall out.
People go immediately to counter swapping rather than counter playing.
I.e thinking of swapping in JQ vs Dva when they could actually just hold high ground
This person jumps almost every time they shoot with JQ
That seems to be a common thing with low rank tank players. Rein's play style is the default play style no matter what tank they pick. They'll even play Winston like he's rein....
The sad side of any rank below gold is the fact that no one seems to know the term "Team Game" T. T
Its easy. It is a game with a team to flame if things go downhill.
@@julibean5125yeah fr. The minute one person makes a mistake you and 3 others have a new alliance
Question: you talk about taking high ground a lot, but when I play dva I always feel like between damage falloff and the huge spread, using primary fire high ground just does like 2 damage per second. How do you like, accomplish things from high ground as dva?
if you are there, they can’t be there, it’s about taking position and applying pressure, since you have jet packs you should take high ground, although be it for 10 seconds. you can play off of high ground 👍
You have a team
With Dva you’re able to boost back up onto the high ground. You can fall off and get a pick on a squishy character and fly back up onto the high ground. You’re giving your team high ground and space, as well as distance.
@@diablotry5154did you see a single player go high ground this game. Its a different gane down here
In season 3, as a dva main I had a weird surge of people that would counter swap Zarya. I did better on dva during the Zarya meta than season 3. I still get the counter swapping Andys, but I deal with it better now. Sometimes I can force it, and sometimes I just don’t want to deal with it so I go monkey
Who's Andy?
It's not aboout "Countering", it is about "Tank Better Than The Other Tank."
I don't think counter swapping matters in lower ranks as much as people think they it does. Your positioning, use of cover, and just general game sense will win you more games if you actually try to improve by being willing to look for your own mistakes.
Honestly I don’t think that Jq isn’t that bad against Orisa
Maybe not Counter Swapping, but I see swapping all game. I don't know what's up with the people in Mystery Heroes.
All of the tank heroes are Rein re-skins in bronze
Real talk, counter swapping doesn't matter a ton until you get out of the metal ranks. You can win in plat and below by simply being better than the enemy
I absolutely agree with this. However, I can make a case of "swapping to counter the tank" as impactful in lower ranks to Diamond and above.
You can be better, yeah, but how the game functions is so easily exploitable to win in favorable match ups, even more in lower ranks. The higher you go, the better an understanding players have on how their heroes are in bad and favorable matchups (of course, this doesn't matter as much as of lately, curse you Discord Orb), lower ranked players are also easily exploitable and break under pressure more easily. So, for the Bronze player that might read this, don't be afraid to swap! Making adjustments can be for your playstyle and character. Just don't play mystery heroes while in a ranked match lmao. Understanding the why isn't the same as knowing the answer.
@@KuroVergilre: don't be afraid to swap, yes exactly! in lower ranks, confidence and comfort with playing a character has more impact than whether a hero theoretically counters another, imo
Eh high Plat not so much
Tip: Dont switch characters to counterswap unless your ult is trash.
Examples of trash ults:
barrage
deadeye
meteor strike
.etc
Winton (unless you can juggle)
@@gamingwithjack1332 Primal is such an odd ult as it's pretty useless in low ranks but actually good in mid GM+. Being able to displace the enemy team while your team pushes in is a fight win 65% of the time
@@gamingwithjack1332as long as you don't juggle the enemy winton
Rocket Barrage is a decent ultimate for singular picks or to crush an enemy with your team behind you. Pharah is a good enough hero by herself to make up for her lack of an ultimate ability.
Deadeye can work in the same way Death Blossom works, you need to watch out for abilities that can shut you down before you use it. Additionally, Deadeye can also work as a zoning ultimate as unless the enemy team dedicates a CC tool to McCassidy or have a strong defensive ability active, then they have to respect the ultimate.
Meteor Strike is poor on the basis of it being bad at getting kills. But it is a great escape tool for Doomfist as it allows him to quickly reposition himself if he is about to die. As well as granting him a full power Rocket Punch once it lands. Plus, it can handle death ball compositions well if the enemy team stacks up behind their tank.
@@ALEX0W they are not bad ults but in this context you have to consider why the player is considering swapping.
Phara is swapping due to hitscans, hitscans destroy barrage.
Cass is swapping because something is shutting him down like a sombra and sombra very easily counters deadeye
Meteor I agree with you but if your playing into a orisa or sombra, there is no point staying doom just for an escape tool every 2 fights
This was a game...
Jack of all trades but master of none
I know Emongg is such a nice person so he would never bash someone but saying it was "mechanical okay" after the Queen couldnt destroy a Lamp with !4! shots at 18:29 is just wrong
How do people that know so much about the game and implement strategy stay in the metal ranks? It doesn’t make sense
Counterwatch is a thing but only if they're good at the hero, this player just isn't good enough to win unless they have the advantage. I play Reinhardt and will roll bad orisa/rammatra players
Why is Winton the clear counter to zarya?
Because he can destroy the backline and zarya has judt the bubbles to protect your team?
He won't give her much in the way of charge
Spectaiting bronze my fav
new mei with rein is really strong against queen you cant play queen in that
people who ask why jump all the time... havn't played tf2. it's mandatory to jump during setup
WTF a bronze player that peels for their team? Who even does that?! And in this economy?!?
His team failed him massively first point.
I would have to disagree dude got out of his mech because he pushed so far forward when the enemy had a JQ, Echo and Moira. Also knew the Sombra was in his backlines messing with his healers. Not only that but the Cassidy sat there and was pushed far ahead with him also.
Their team problem as a whole was positioning. They should've been playing high ground. Giving the enemy team as a whole no way push threw them or pick them off easily. The only reason why they actually capped first point as Zayra was because they took the high ground forcing the JQ to have to walk all the way up solo. You would think that they wouldve learned that being high ground was their best bet especially with an one trick junkrat on their team.
Then after they capt the point he SAW that his entire team had long spawn and just stood there feeding the other teams ult charge instead of pushing back and waiting for them. The questionable Cassidy did the exact samething.
Instead of worrying about the other tank, he should focus on the mistakes he made. Because he played like a bronze player, definitely not because the enemy tank switched. I'm honestly not sure why lower level tanks are always so tunneled vision on the enemy tank instead of trying to go for the people standing behind them supporting the tank. All players on his team had bad positioning and bad mechanical skills. Including him because on defense he was obsessed with playing so far up KNOWING that it would take him forever to turn around and stop the other team taking any other route to kick his team butt.
i wanna know the interesting names
Same
You know what I find really dumb? They won't show you the enemy team comp before the round starts but they will show you the enemy team comp after. That makes zero sense to me.
idk, I like the suspense and needing to be prepared for anything and how we have to try to strategize based on what teammates we have, not the enemy. it's more interesting to me than knowing immediately what the enemy is doing
@@sethescope I agree, I just find it dumb that it's a big secret before the round starts, and then it's like, "here's what they are for the remainder of the round. You can even see them swap!"
@@Rudy92284 tbh I haven't thought about it much to consider the downsides and okay let me be honest with you, I rarely have the presence of mind to even check LMAO so I think it's totally okay to be a little annoyed (idk the right word, this feels too Harsh) with it, sometimes we feel a way about something, it's not the end of the world. I'm plenty annoyed by a lot of things after all, not like I can judge haha
Maybe so people don't go for counter picks out of the gates?
The attackers would be able to switch at the last second before the round starts.
Aside from that it's more predictable where the enemy would be if you know what heroes they play at the round start
@@CharterForGaming all valid points but it doesn't matter after the first team fight. It's just the lack of consistency that doesn't make sense to me.
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i love that emongg always thinks people might be learning from his supposedly pepega plays 😂 we love a self aware king, but we all gotta be responsible for ourselves and our mistakes
I hate counter swapping, just git gud.
I play characters who I enjoy and if I can't win against a "counter" then I just need to get better and it's a skill issue on my behalf
It's true in the metallranks.
@@killerkeks8843 Every single hero (except lifeweaver to my knowledge) has been 1 tricked into top 500 at one point. It's not about metal ranks, its about getting gud
@@skinnysnorlax1876 my thoughts exactly
@skinnysnorlax1876 Liveweaver got onetricked after Season 5 patch in top500 too.
Onetricks are the exeption and not the role. There are some player who are good enough to overperform a reality bad disadvantaged, but they are rare. Normal matchups in top ladder are mostly just metaheros.
If all player almost maxed out the heropotatial, the difference statswise matters more.
@@killerkeks8843 you don't necessarily have the data to back that up
Yes, most players will roughly play meta. Most players are roughly flex players. But that's actually kinda my point
There's a small minority of players who one trick, and they exist at every rank, despite (and rarely, because of) specific metas. But these metas aren't just bestowed upon us by blizzard (usually, lol)
They're discovered, by skillful, creative, risk taking players. These players exist at every level and are in fact necessary for the health of the game state. I would argue we need more players like that. Fuck meta, fuck counterpicks, learn the matchups. That's how flower successfully played widow against dive at the height of it's prestige
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Emongg I tried to unlock junker queen but for some reason the game wasn't giving junker queen to me I completed all the quest and for some reason it says I have 34 out of 35 wins and wen I clicked on more details it said I completed it
This reminds me of a match i played recently. I was playing tank as DVa with a full squad of friends and the enemy tank was also DVa. We had a really close first round and went into round two expecting a tough fight again but because their tank kept switching characters, we ended up totally rolling them.
Overwatch should have a feature that limits character switching, especially in comp. Maybe switching is only allowed in between rounds? I think it'd make for a better experience all around
That would absolutely break the game. Some matches would be determined at random by the initial picks, so it would become a game of luck. Counterswapping is an integral part of the game. Like, imagine you go Hanzo and the enemy team has a Pharmercy, and now you're stuck with Hanzo until the end of the round.
@@krautgazer games already broken 🤷🏻♀️
@@krautgazer ua-cam.com/users/shortsPSx0caHzfVk?feature=share4
Wait... why all the players had those weird names? Is that a function it to keep the players anonymous during a replay? Edit: so it's called streamer mode to serve the same function as what I asked
nobody knows how to play numbani in lower ranks. i probably should be around high gold in tank (judging by overwatch 1 ranks) but it decayed since i havent placed that role since season 1 of ow2 because i only play dva and i dont want to learn any new tanks lol but ive recently been playing in bronze again because my support is now too high to queue with one of my bronze friends so i pick tank which is silver rn. we attacked first and won very easily first fight because i know how to take the high grounds they just left open for free, and we full held on defense because i told my team to stay on high ground and not drop until its absolutely necessary, and they actually listened to me. i really hope those players take that into other numbani games so the word gets spread around bronze and silver! i really want those players to love numbani the way i do now. i used to hate it in ow1, but i feel like its a perfect ow2 map. first point always felt so claustrophobic with 4 tanks on the field but now it feels so nice
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helloooo
First
Omg a First comment that is actually first usally it’s something random like waffles
"I, a top 500 player, do that sometimes, why? I dOn'T kNoW. But you, a bronze player, have to make perfect sense all the time and never deliberately go for smth silly" Emongg logic 🤣
Honestly this tank shouldn’t have been bronze. They were playing fine aside from Some small issues here and there that are easy to fix. The dps kept dying as soon as the tank pushed up which wasn’t their fault.
No way you can convince me that these are real people IF YOU JUST TAKE A SEC AND LOOK AT THEIR NAMES!”
In the beginning emong says that he put streamer mode on because of spicy names
Maybe IF YOU JUST LISTENED TO THE FIRST 10 SECONDS OF THE VIDEO, you would know
People like you should learn to listen, and think, before opening their mouths.
i don't play widow pls stop playing widow