You are right in differentiating between man made organisations and the true church. However, the church was always meant to be organised by God. Acts 14v23; Titus 1v5 - elders were appointed in each church. Acts 4 - God has set in the church various ministries. See also 1 Cor 12 - interesting to note that when the Lord gives us His plan for church, in describing the organisation of it by the Spirit, He actually uses ORGANS to describe how it's ORGANised. 🙂
What do you mean by organization? Do you mean believers all united under one? God, one doctrine, one baptism, and for evangelization for the salvation of the world? Would you or I be a Christian today without the church that Jesus started 2000 years ago? Would we have the holy Bible with 73 books to inspire us and guide us and be one of gods revelations to us for our benefit? Do we need a Church to tell us when we are wrong?
The Church has no sanctity, and it is not forbidden to insult it if it does not lead to the Christians reciprocating and insulting Islam. That - and the people of knowledge have mentioned that he is judged to be apostate to whoever believes that what he does is an act of worship Whoever believes that churches are the houses of God, and that God is worshiped in them, or that what the Jews and Christians do is worship of God and obedience to His Messenger, or that he loves or is pleased with that, or helps them to open them and establish their religion, and that this is an act of worship or obedience, then he is an unbeliever. Whoever believes that visiting the dhimmis’ churches brings them closer to God; he is an apostate, and if he is ignorant that it is forbidden, he knows that, and if he insists, he becomes an apostate; To include a denial of the Almighty’s saying: “The religion with God is Islam.” As for if it is feared that they will be insulted for the religion of Islam, then it is not permissible to insult the church as a way of blocking pretexts, for God Almighty said: And do not insult those who invoke other than God, lest they insult God as an enemy without knowledge {Al-Anam: 108}.
@Chickengun That is a misinterpretation - Jesus never said 'I am God', but a " Son of God". Who do you think he prayed to? Also, " My Father and I are one" - "The Father in me & I in the Father" .That is why he taught that those who believe, follow & obey his commands will do as he did & greater works than he. We are ALL children of God, Jesus is the first born, our elder brother showing us the Way home - to be one with the Father also. Read his teachings more carefully & listen to the Spirit within (as promised) instead of those "teaching as doctrine the commandments of men"!
@@Ararimu9 Is this good Christian discourse? You are making a huge claim there with no evidence. How do I disagree with Scripture exactly? This entire video depends on the "tradition" of protestant explanation of what a Church is rather than getting it's definition 100% from the Bible. Do you agree with the Council of Nicea that the Church is ONE HOLY CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC ? All of these have specific meanings and biblical basis that is far beyond what this video explains... It literally said: "The Universal Church is all those who have received Salvation". That is not what the church is at all. This is like the world' definition of a woman. "A church is anyone who identifies as saved". lol Under this definition, why would there ever be any reason for anyone to split from the church and start their own denonmination.
FORGET THE GREEK WORD EKKLESIA! What exactly is church? That’s the 10-million-dollar question that only I can answer correctly today, and would not disclose for 100 million dollars; because knowing what church is, is not about money, it’s about the time one spends studying to show themselves approved unto the Lord! If anyone is interested knowing what church really is having aspirations of becoming a very popular [Christian] book author; I would consider entering into an agreement.
I agree 💯👍🏾
Interesting. Grace be to you.
Amen
Local Church is now an organisation? Not true. Organisations are man-made and started with the catholic Church.
You are right in differentiating between man made organisations and the true church. However, the church was always meant to be organised by God. Acts 14v23; Titus 1v5 - elders were appointed in each church. Acts 4 - God has set in the church various ministries. See also 1 Cor 12 - interesting to note that when the Lord gives us His plan for church, in describing the organisation of it by the Spirit, He actually uses ORGANS to describe how it's ORGANised. 🙂
Sorry, Ephesians 4 instead of Acts 4.
What do you mean by organization? Do you mean believers all united under one? God, one doctrine, one baptism, and for evangelization for the salvation of the world?
Would you or I be a Christian today without the church that Jesus started 2000 years ago?
Would we have the holy Bible with 73 books to inspire us and guide us and be one of gods revelations to us for our benefit?
Do we need a Church to tell us when we are wrong?
If something is organized, does that make it an organization?
you mean the Orthodox Church, from which Rome broke away from the other 4 Patriarchates.
The Church has no sanctity, and it is not forbidden to insult it if it does not lead to the Christians reciprocating and insulting Islam. That - and the people of knowledge have mentioned that he is judged to be apostate to whoever believes that what he does is an act of worship
Whoever believes that churches are the houses of God, and that God is worshiped in them, or that what the Jews and Christians do is worship of God and obedience to His Messenger, or that he loves or is pleased with that, or helps them to open them and establish their religion, and that this is an act of worship or obedience, then he is an unbeliever.
Whoever believes that visiting the dhimmis’ churches brings them closer to God; he is an apostate, and if he is ignorant that it is forbidden, he knows that, and if he insists, he becomes an apostate; To include a denial of the Almighty’s saying: “The religion with God is Islam.”
As for if it is feared that they will be insulted for the religion of Islam, then it is not permissible to insult the church as a way of blocking pretexts, for God Almighty said: And do not insult those who invoke other than God, lest they insult God as an enemy without knowledge {Al-Anam: 108}.
@Chickengun That is a misinterpretation - Jesus never said 'I am God', but a " Son of God". Who do you think he prayed to? Also, " My Father and I are one" - "The Father in me & I in the Father" .That is why he taught that those who believe, follow & obey his commands will do as he did & greater works than he. We are ALL children of God, Jesus is the first born, our elder brother showing us the Way home - to be one with the Father also. Read his teachings more carefully & listen to the Spirit within (as promised) instead of those "teaching as doctrine the commandments of men"!
This video is trying so hard to be anti Catholic it avoids the Truth of Christian History.
You just disagree with the scripture so you must be ignorant
@@Ararimu9 Is this good Christian discourse? You are making a huge claim there with no evidence.
How do I disagree with Scripture exactly?
This entire video depends on the "tradition" of protestant explanation of what a Church is rather than getting it's definition 100% from the Bible.
Do you agree with the Council of Nicea that the Church is
ONE
HOLY
CATHOLIC
APOSTOLIC
?
All of these have specific meanings and biblical basis that is far beyond what this video explains...
It literally said: "The Universal Church is all those who have received Salvation". That is not what the church is at all. This is like the world' definition of a woman. "A church is anyone who identifies as saved". lol
Under this definition, why would there ever be any reason for anyone to split from the church and start their own denonmination.
FORGET THE GREEK WORD EKKLESIA! What exactly is church? That’s the 10-million-dollar question that only I can answer correctly today, and would not disclose for 100 million dollars; because knowing what church is, is not about money, it’s about the time one spends studying to show themselves approved unto the Lord! If anyone is interested knowing what church really is having aspirations of becoming a very popular [Christian] book author; I would consider entering into an agreement.
Omg😅