Yamaha WR250R VS YZ450FX - WR250R is a SLOW TURD??
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2018
- WR250R VS 2019 Yamaha YZ450FX Supermoto Street Legal
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Believe it or not, my KYMCO PEOPLE GTi 300 has about 30hp its 29.5hp @ 8500rpm & 22ft lb of Troque @ 6250rpm .It weighs 364lbs. Do the math that like 12.5lbs per HP im in love wth this Scooter compared to my 150cc Scooter. Kind of the same comparison as your WR 250r,& your YZ450FX . AnyWay enjoyed the video bro.
TMF thinks you are a looney channel. I like both of you.
Man nobody wants your cheap ass shit!
@@PB-gr4ro NO BOOT CAMP
@@lb150t NO BOOT CAMP
WR250R is the wife. YZ450FX is the side fling.
Great analogy! She is a good loyal wife too! The side fling is fun but I don't know how long she will be there for sugar daddy. lol
hey cyclecruza
glad your not getting rid of the WR250r brother (BIG thumbs up from Alaska )
No way, the wr250r is a legend. I would argue that it's the most reliable motorcycle.
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You have the best set up man. Both the wr250r and yz450fx 😍
grats on the new bike! Enjoy it
You got great options for riding and that’s really cool.👍🏼👍🏼
Great rides! Appreciated the comparisons and info. Cheers!
CC I've been subscribed to your channel for at least a year and I probably watched almost all of your videos. I was super stoked to see you do a comparison video of these two machines, even though I'm not in the market for either of them. In fact I am a Harley guy, straight American Cruiser the whole way. I really do appreciate your approach to motovlogging even though I would never ride any of your rides I still value your opinion and enjoy your entertainment content so I will always watch your videos. That being said you will have your 250 or 450 up for sale by the beginning of Spring, it's a fact I know one of those machines is leaving you like to rotate your inventory too much and that's why we love your station! Anyways I can't wait to see what your next bike is!
hey thanks for being a long time viewer! I appreciate it. These two bikes are staying. If anything, the cbr could be rotated out for new streetfighter of some sort. I'm waiting for Aprilia to redesign the tuono already. This YZ is SICK!
Oh, a "REAL BIKE" kinda guy!!!
There is a lot more to what makes a bike "great" than simply power. I have ridden many incredible and incredibly fun bikes that are far from the most powerful on the road. In fact, sometimes it is their lack of power that makes them so fun. It's the whole slow bike fast vs fast bike slow cliche' but it's true. People that obsess over power just have something to prove or just really really like power. I have a bike with 165whp, and another bike with MAYBE 16 wheel hp, and I ride both and enjoy both equally. Little bikes are fun!
I love all of the bikes, even bicycles! Anything on two wheels keeps me happy.
Go head Cycle Cruza! You’re doing it man. Luv it!👍🏼👍🏼
Always looking forward to your next video Bro. GOD Bless..
Thanks! God Bless!
I need to comment just because there is to many fan boys which encourage companys to make 2 wheel grenades. Love the wr250
+Nz Johny However, the YZ is the best of the Grenades.
@@shockadellick no it's not
You never talk about the Chinese scoota anymore.
I was thinking the same thing I guess we just love them and leave them. 🎵All My Ex's Live in🇨🇱 Texas.. I may need to reside in Tennessee 🎶😂
Tony Rain that’s not the Texas flag. That’s the flag of Chile.
U A IDIOT
St. Francis yeah ur right in Texas the blue goes down the entire left side
I would love to see some video of Cycle Cruza learning to wheelie!!!
The 250R has a great purpose !i think it’s a great decision to keep it! But man that 450 is sexy.
Love the new bike! You did an awesome job. What tail bag is that? I’ve been looking for one for my 450L.
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If you come out to Oregon, LETS GO FOR A RIDE!
awsome video !!
Wooo! I LOVE IT BEBY!
Gets me everytime xD love it
Your vids are dope man. You should've got the Husky 701 Sumo...
Yamaha is much more reliable and wayyyyy lighter, the 701 is nearly 100 lbs heavier! The only benefit for the 701 is less maintenance, otherwise, it's much bigger and heavier.
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I got a wr125r as my first bike a few weeks ago and i literally go everywhere with it and thats why I love it, its great on amd off road tried everything and its perfect although you need to get used to it
Yo thanks for the heart brother appreciate it
I'm thinking about picking up a wr250r as well they seemed to be a great bike.
You need to work on standing up when you try to do hill climbs and your stair climbs you will have much better control, the maintenance is not to bad thats half the fun. Cool bike I love Yammy, when are you gonna get that bike in the thick of it? Ready to see some gnarly now you have the right gear to do it, I know my 690R loves to eat all of it offroad in the nasty stuff loaded up with adventure gear or not. If you ever wanna do the TAT better get ready it will be you biggest test ever it can break most riders after OK and you get into Colo. Great vid
I loved the shinko 705's on my drz400sm I'm on street tires on my 701 right now. Still not bad for casual offroading
Shinko 705 tires are fine on dry terrain, but sucks bad in mud. I can't venture into the woods too much with wet conditions or I may not make it out. lol
You might be able to run a relay off the ignition circuit for the light . That way it automatically goes off when the bike isn’t running. Who knows the ecu may already have an unused circuit for that purpose or even a lighting circuit.
You keep mentioning the maintenance of the 450, those are race maintenance schedules. You probably don't need anything like that on the street or even the way you ride?
Bass Player lmao right? This dude is dropping 1k miles a year on his WR250. There is no way he’ll be doing that much maintenance on his 450 judging by his track record.
Ripping this bike the way I have be doing in these videos, I doubt woods/dirt racers would even get close to the speeds I'm ripping it at. 105 mph on the highway, 0-80 mph like a mofo all over the streets! I need to do race maintenance! lol I just won't have to clean the air filter as much because I'm not in dirt but the engine is being stressed for sure.
Cruza;
Racing is full throttle or brakes, is that your riding style? No it is not by a log shot....
@IndyHelis - The YZ450FX is not a Motocross bike though, on the Yamaha website it's listed with the WR450F as a cross country woods bike, so the maintenance schedule is reflecting this type of riding and not Motocross riding. There is no way in hell anybody is doing 105 mph and 0-80 mph stints in the woods like I'm ripping it around on the streets. This engine is getting stressed and needs just as much maintenance as the manual states when it comes to oil changes, valve checks and piston cleaning/replacement.
Wrapping the piss outta these 450's on the street does require a maintenance schedule equivalent to racing.
Raffle off the 250 when you hit 500k subs
$10 a ticket
I'm not focused on subs, if I did, I would have done crazy collaborations with vloggers (I have not done one yet.) This is more of a hobby and sharing a passion to the world to help bring happiness to people by motivating them ride motorcycles. The best natural high next to sex! lol
CycleCruza and that my friend is why I love your channel! Cant wait to be able to afford the luxury of a hobby well financial one anyway lol God Bless!
@@CycleCruza I respect that. That 450 is absolutely gorgeous. Congrats and enjoy!
Glad you are getting used to and enjoying the shinkos man. You'll get a good 5k plus out of them plus or minus. They're great on pavement, but give them a bit to warm up. Steer clear of mud and when roads puddle up.
yeah these tires are bad in mud, so the wr250r will see plenty of ride time because all winter the woods off-road areas are mud pits.
Is your oil nasty on the wr when you change it? Or is it still ok? I’m torn between a few bike. I want a street bike , adventure and dual sport lol. I had a street legal Honda 450x. It was bad ass but I kinda want something with less power. The power is awesome but sometimes it fucks me up. I accidentally looped it on a whoooooed our trail. Just whiskey throttled that shit. And the bike was terrible on the road.
To do the steps, if you slow down a little on the approach, stand up on the pegs, and lean way forward it'll probably go a little better. More throttle while sitting down gets you a wheelie and possibly a hot bike on top of you. I'd practice on a dirt hill...steps can be hell on tires. Not criticizing...it's always good to get a new CC video. : )
I have the wr250r down pat, but still need to get used to this YZ and play with some maps for it on my smartphone. This thing is a beast. It wheelies itself, I work to keep the front wheel down.
CyceCruza, MAAAaaann.... what's the seat height of the 450 with the supermoto wheels on it?
Get that WR 250 on the Tat bro, gear up with a Mosko bag system, some Beef Jerky,
And send it
Yeeeeaa Buddy!! 🤘
The Twisties mite be more fun on the 250 with the continental tkc80s , could scrape my pegs on my xr250r and still a decent off road.
No il be sticking with my 250r as I don't like doing maintanance on bikes and I think it's quite expensive to do what you did on the 450fx
CycleCruza, maaaannn, are you gonna check 450 speedo against GPS?
yes
I legit thought Cycle Cruza was black until now
I have a WR250r and I just bought a CRF450L. I am totally keeping my WR just for buddies to ride, long distances, passengers, and LOVE
Cool! Yeah you can't take these dirt bikes on long distance riding. The wr250r is probably one of the most reliable bikes on the planet that you can trust to travel the world and have fun doing it.
How would the YZ450FX compare to the WR450F? I'd go with the latter probably, as soon as i get my licence. Or perhaps start out on the WR250. Can't go wrong with that.
Have you read the book “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”? It talks about loving the work. I don’t think having the extra maintenance is going to be much of a burden, if you love it more.
Hahaha....how many more bikes are you gonna fit in your garage my dude ;)
Keep doing you...be safe enjoy your vids CC ✌🏾👊🏾😎
it's getting crazy. lol I have a real addiction but I love them all.
Yeah it’s cool what you did w this but way too impractical for me. That maintenance is a killer!
That's why you have it as a third bike.....
I live vicariously thru you CC.......you know since I'm married lmao great choice CC on that 450FX , a dual sport is definitely my next bike!!
"This thing is just sick! It's just violent, I like that!"
Please ride the 1290 Super Duke R as soon as you can.
My personal choice for the TAT would be the DR650S all fully modded to my weight, power, and seat liking.
Now that ya got a sumo, you just need to hit up Supercamp (or local equivalent) to learn how to ride it!
IMO, CycleCruza and I have it figured out - get your WRR all set up the way you want it and paid off, then you can get fun project/ experimental/ more road or dirt specific bikes on the side. WR250R = Old Faithful
You Could of just got a wr450r ,but if I had the option of make a yz450 into a street legal supermoto I would do it no matter what the cost🤙🏻thanks for the vids btw👌🏻
Wr450r doesn't exist...
Dude! That thing kicks ace. Imagine that thing in the hands of a super experienced super moto rider.
I already have a fast bike, so I’d get the wr250r - or a DR650?
The way I see it is someone builds a bike for the way you ride buy what makes you happy. I would love to see a UA-cam video series on a new bike and the guy does zero maintenance to see how long it will last. Breaking in according to the manual and then just go.
Its good to have two bikes..one for play and one for longer adventures. If I had to only have one though the Beta 480 rr looks like the way to go to me.Just too bad its close to 10 grand :( !
I'm stuck between the two u have. which is better for highway and off road.i want it for fun and to ride as commuter bike mostly for fun
I can clarify what you're thinking. The WR is a good off-road bike. The YZ is a great street bike. The YZ is a handful on tight trails. You can't grab a handful of throttle on the YZ on a slow trail without an o snap moment. But controlling the beast is what makes it so fun.
That xDiavel scene never gets old bro lol
lol I've used the hell out of that edit but I love it because it truly reflects the strong pull that bike has. That was a fun bike!
The WR250R has it's place, it's called Craig's list!
Maybe, but then again ... it's the perfect bike for learning dirt skills. Not urban fookery, but the real deal nasty, filthy, hot and sweaty, rain soaked. bug infested goat trails. Where balance, clutch and brake control, line management and trail vision are more easily executed on the lower powered machine. The WR250R has it's place in the stable for now, and I'd much rather jump straight into the saddle of the WR250R for dirt school than spend a half hour swapping out rims on the way out, then putting them back on after the ride when you're exhausted and a cold beverage is inviting you to dance ;-) It's all about fun and carpe diem ... seize the day and enjoy the moment :-) If you're a biker stay up right bro, otherwise always carry spare bass strings ;-)
To each his own, I stated what I would do...
The dump....it belongs in a dump.
@Mal Boyce - I agree, the wr250r is a great bike for someone new to dirt. However, it's also great for established riders as a true lightweight dual sport that can do a little bit of everything with little maintenance.
@Mike KO very true Mike and you speak from experience. My opinion, also from experience, is that if I had gone straight onto IT's/CR's/YZ's etc I would've crashed and burned and most likely not had a great deal of fun. As it was, my XL100 then XR250 [23inch front wheel] provided a steady and safe skill growth and with it a heap of fun and great memories ... I'm just saying given the opportunity, which CC has, learn your chops on the WR so that when you get serious, you'll fully appreciate the YZFX :-) My last dirty boy was a KLX650R where I had to spend as much time on cardio and muscular fitness as I did on the bike ... oh those were the days! Stay upright bro, if not stay safe :-)
I love the my WR250R but wish some days it had more power. I plan on keeping my WR250R and probably gonna do an Athena Kit down the road. But my wife wants to get into riding and it would be a perfect starter bike. I may go to the CRF450L and mod that bad boy up down the road. I wish I could buy a dirtbike and put the baha kit on it but in BC we cant do that anymore. Kinda sucks. But great bike. Cheers
if you live in a state that is easy to plate a dirt bike, skip the CRF450l, it's corked up with emissions bs and has an ecu that keeps you from getting full power. It requires too much to get that bike opened up. This yz450fx has 60 hp compared to the 44 hp on the crf450l.
CycleCruza true but I can’t do what you did where I live. Otherwise I woulda street legaled my 2002 xr400r haha. It was mint. Sold it to buy the duel purpose wr250r. Hence I wish it had more power. Just not practical to ride the xr two times a year and collect dust in my garage is all. I commute on my wr250 to work now and it is awesome. Just needs more juice hehe
Do you have multiple bikes? That’s probably your best bet.
Collin Mac would be nice but no. I’m happy with wr250r. Done lots of mods to customize already a ton. Still lots to do tho. I’m having fun working on it.
Sadly there’s only so much power you can squeeze out of the little yami! What mods have you done to it? If I get one it would just be a farm bike really or like a trail bike
Hey cyclecruza I wanna bet that your new SICK yz4fiddy would perform a lot better off-road and it should feel smoother with the fuckeryy if you used the MAP SWITCH lol I’m curious
yeah the other map is smoother, I look forward to messing around with tuning it via smart phone. I still have yet to take the time to do that. The wifi module is still sitting new in the box.
CycleCruza, I want to get a WR250F and do what I have to to get a plate on it, should I just get the R or convert the F. The F is lighter and I wanna ride in the woods 80% of the time I just don't want to buy a truck. Also I have a 2003 Z1000 that I want to sell in the future to get a GSXS1000, do you have an opinion on that machine? Thanks bro.
Two completely different bikes. If you want to be in the woods most of the time get the F. The R is for those who want a true dual sport with ultra low maintenance. Btw, this 450 feels LIGHTWEIGHT in the woods and can be tuned via smartphone to smooth the power and make the power violent. I love it! You have two bikes in one.
@@CycleCruza that 450 is sick, congrats. I have a spending limit unfortunately so I'm probably going to be looking for a early 2000s WR. Maybe someday though I really like what you did with that bike.
I currently have a RMZ250f and I want a wr450f one for each world's RMZ for the MX tracks wr450 for road/trail rides
Man, I’m thinking about trading my 2017 grom in for either one of these bikes. Can’t make up my mind for the 250 or 450. Any input is appreciated.
get the 2019 yz450fx, can tune via smartphone and has two awesome maps on a switch on the handlebar. This bike makes my cbr1000rr feel slow off the line. This is the most fun motorcycle I've had so far.
Can you change the wr’s wheels to something a little better for the street?
You need to download the TP 2.0 map. I heard it's really good.
Yeah I heard, I have yet to even connect the wifi module, it's sitting brand new in a box. However, that will be my next project.
cruza is good, only thing missing is where I could I find his gear
Plz no
Omfg 😂
What oil do you run? Cc? I wonder if you use REDLINE OIL wich is 100percent real synthetic not just refined crude that's refined so much they are allowed to call it synthetic if it would help your yz out as far as worrying about street miles
Its expensive chit. I know guys that drag race use it and swear by it
That and put like an ounce or two of synthetic two stroke oil in when you fill your tank with gas.
Who has a superMoto and doesn’t know how to wheelie?
30 hour valve change is crazy
Love your work....Mark Cuban
Keep it you might want to do some serious urban fookery and slyde action.😎😄
I can't ride this YZ in sumo trim in mud, and that's what we have a lot of in the woods. So come winter, most of my urban fookery will be on the wr250r unless I add a set of dual sport wheels with a cush drive for the YZ. I really want to only do supermoto and dirt only with this bike and leave the dual sport riding for the WR250R.
That 450 you can do whatever you want to with the durability on that bike is crazy which you’ll find out
I love this blue beast ^^
What’s your tops speed with mods and not stock on the wr250r
CycleCruza videos are more important than focusing on my school shit
lol
What you Should be doing is wearing those new Sidi boots and putting the gp7 on your helmet.
Yamaha discontinued the wr250. If they come out with a new 250 with updated suspension and all the new dirt bike technology and the same low maintenance will you upgrade?
You talking about the R or F? If the R, no it’s not discontinued
wr250r is still alive!
these clips are pure gold... haha
*3:44** Again? LOOOOL*
That's the same place Cruuza had his Wheelie fail lol
No that was at the fairgrounds. I don;t go there anymore since they put up a 'No Motorcycles' sign. lol
Why not wire the lights to the oem cutoff switch so one switch shuts off both
I hate to mess with stock wiring, could end up with gremlins. Best to keep the wiring stock. I don't park the bike anyways, just ride it out and back home. When I get home I put the trickle charger on.
How come you didn’t get a CRF 450L?
CycleCruza i notice you and a lot of supermoto riders tend to use after hours truck dock yards to ride and trick. Just be aware truck drivers sometimes forget to put fuel tank caps back on after refueling. Then they leak diesel all over the place and unsuspecting riders slip over on their bikes in the mess. Very slippery and less noticeable than oil.
I'm getting the WR250R as my first vehicle
Great choice!
Pansy doubt.
Auto subtitles killin' it today lol.
In your opinion. Would of the 250 been a better motard?
no, the 250 makes a better dual sport. Leave the fast bikes for the motard trim.
*Hey Cruza I have a question if it's not too much trouble. Would you say it's a bad idea to buy used bike of this caliber seeing as so much maintenance is involved & a personal seller is rarely known personally?*
If you dont know about bikes or if you dont wanna wrench tl much dont bother buying a bike like that for the strset2
@@CollinMac96 you're right, I tend to be a impulse buyer at times unfortunately. That's why this channel has saved me a lot of money.
I’ve had 13 bikes in 2 years so I know what impulse buying is 🤕. Stick with the wr250r. Less and longer maintenance intervals
Imo, get new when it comes to dirt bikes. Most people BEAT on dirt bikes and parts get worn.
@@CollinMac96 Amen
Bro, CC, this probly sounds petty but could u tell me the seat height on this with the SM wheels/tires? I'm only 5'8 and most of that's in the torso lol. I know seat height don't really matter but I mean these things are known for being super tall.
Watch his first video on the YZ450
Rieska of course, the one I didn't watch. Thanks.
You will like a sumo, sits lower. You'll be fine! Just do it! Check out Sarraz (or however you spell her name), she is only like 5'4" and rides supermotos and dirt bikes like a boss. A little petite chick who rides 12 o'clock wheelies and stoppies and rides motocross and trails!
CycleCruza well, damn. That chick is dope😳. Yeah, I think I'll be alright lol. Thanks for responding dudes.
Your 250 has more than 30 hp right? After all the mods I thought you would have gained a few more
just 30 hp for the wr250r. I have my 2019 yz450fx for all the power I need. The wr250r is bullertproof reliable and ultra low maintenance.
Did you adjust your bike at all for your weight? Such as sag, clickers, maybe valving?
He doesnt ride hard enough to need any other than setting his sag.
Not yet but suspension feels good though.
The size of the 250 is bigger.
The smaller one has a bigger engine.
I would say the smaller bike with the bigger engine would be easier to get places in the woods.
But you need dirt tires for that.
I am betting the 250 has better ground clearance.
yeah there is only so much I can do off-road with sumo tires, dual sport wheels give more ground clearance and better traction with the DOT knobbies.
when you didn't try the stairs again i quit caring.
Hey!
Do you have the video of how did you solve the headlight battery powered!
The 19' YZ450FX has a stator that provides enough power to add a LED headlight. Just make sure to get a speedometer that has a voltmeter to keep track of the battery level. I have not had any problems since. The reason i had a problem when I first rode the bike was because I was cutting the bike off and leaving the headlight on. I don't have the headlight wired into the bike's system because I did not want to mess with the stock wiring. The good thing is my battery always keeps reserve power so the battery never really dies.
@@CycleCruza because I don't want to use a switch exclusively for the headlight (it would be to many controls in the handlebar) my idea is to power the headlight to the bike's wiring system and that way light will be always on if motor is running, not taking the risk of running out of battery. I'm not that skilled with electrical systems if you happen to find someone powering the yz450fx like this, just send me the link. Appreciate your answer. Thanks
I hated your WR250 before you got the 450....cyclelooza.
WR250r and YZ450F are completely different machines. YZ will probably need complete top end rebuild in 50 hours, maybe 100 if you're lucky. WR first valve clearance check is 20k miles and they're usually fine at that time. They are not comparable bikes.
I bet you have more smiles per oil change on the yz over the wr even though the yz is so much more often though.
I don't always feel like ripping it, sometimes I just want to chill ride.
Took you long enough. Like I told you, SUMO is LIFE my son. Welcome to the darkside.
NO BOOT CAMP
Should make a lil oil cooler or just add a little more to it then as far as the so called maintenance no one does it that much only hardcore racers really need to do it ever 1500 or 3000 I'm sure there's a bunch of people that do that and have no problems
Next video: how to replace top end on YZ450FX
It's not trash. But anyone who says it isnt terribly slow is just lying.
Being on the slow side is what makes it great. You can pin the throttle and it still pulls but won’t kick you off and gets great traction in the dirt. You can also blast through the gears and not be breaking the laws. It’s a different kind of fun than adrenaline g-forces. I have most of the same mods as cycle Cruza and I wouldn’t call mine terribly slow, and I’m coming from an r6. If your used to a 450 my bike and ride a Wr250r for a few minutes it’s probably going to feel weak as hell
Into The Mystery - I agree with you, the wr250r is a fun bike that can do a little bit of everything with ultra low maintenance and super cheap to own. People that don't own these race dirt bikes don't realize all of the maintenance involved and the engine lasts a fraction of how long a wr250r engine will last. There are people with over 100k miles on a wr250r with no top end rebuilds. The WR is a bike you can travel the world with and can ride gnarly terrain and ride highway all day and still have fun. It wheelies great too as you know!
@@CycleCruza sure. You can do all that on a 650 as well, but yet still have more HP than a scooter.