No boycott it’s called see yah later… my 2 legs will never walk through a dealership door… you don’t need the perverts parts or motorcycles.. there are to many aftermarket dealers that sell better parts.. by a used bike from a non pervert
The main reason why I will never buy another Harley, the dealerships themselves don’t even hold value to their bikes when trading them in. So why should I value their product at MSRP or markup.
Bud Light still hasn't recovered from Sturgis.....The CEO of Harley Davidson should be fired for taking the brand down this path it was his decision not anyone else's at the end of the day. Do your research and you will understand that this is more about a green initiative that allot of Europeans push...... Put an American CEO in there that preserves the companies roots and its V twin engine because without that the bike loses its soul.
Its more to it that the Green Initiative. The GI is just an excuse to tear down every first world country(Financially, culturally, spiritually) to the point that they beg for a One World government.
Really wish people would just ride their motorcycles and enjoy life. Take the politics out of your everyday lives and just live and enjoy this short time we have on earth.
In today’s world, if you know how to check your oil level, you’re considered a mechanic by 99% of people. That should explain a lot about why America is in the current situation we are in.
The only voice consumers have is in where they chose to spend their money. If a company virtue signals that their values are different than yours, than you have every right to not give them your money. I don't agree with Socialist/Marxist tenants so I don't agree with Harley, hence I am driving a brand new Indian Challenger. Thanks for the video.
I have been riding Harley since I was 18yrs now I am 71 and I am not going to STOP. Jochen Zeit president & CEO is NOT Harley and does NOT REPRESENT ME or MY BIKE.
Got rid of my last Harley a couple of years ago! The dealerships are assholes, the parts are stupid expensive, etc! I ride my Indian Scout and Chief! I also enjoy my Yamaha 700 Tenere !
Instead of boycotting any company that has a humanitarian [woke] approach to its marketing... boycott companies that adopt greedy and/or predatory practices as part of their culture. Companies that require consumers to pay $38K for anything priced at $19K is a company you might wanna pull out your torches and pitchforks for. ✌🏾 & ❤️
hell thier not even american made thier a japense made bike now with thier new m8 honda golwing engine dont even sound like a harley anymore a sewing machine sounds better
I agree in many ways with you. Here is my story: i'm a native Swiss, used to work at Harley, as a contractor selling german machinery to produce Harlys. The Problem in fact is the downturn of the economy first, second the age of the customer base. I rode all my life a lot with groups of Harley riders, I remember was always the youngest of the groupe still I am but I turn sixty soon...Harley is NOT woke!!!
Actually HG is run by a German socialist for the blackrock commie agenda, similar to the German 40s agenda. The issue with age is that you spend your life building wealth. Older people continue to have the wealth and younger people are stuck working to buy a Harley at 60. With the white genocide being committed in the west, the larger ethnic European riders aren't riding because there aren't enough. Good thing we have Indian and Chinese bikes for those markets, but China might be doomed from their 1 child policy and having killed all their baby girls
The CEO is definitely WOKE and can be proven. Values in companies come from the top. The company will become more open about what they support as time goes. They always do.
I can define what it was when first used as a slang term by Black people in the 60's. It simply meant being "aware" socially and politically. A simple and positive term has been turned into something else.
Was looking at an Indian, rode in on my 2011 ultra. Looked at the difference salesman never came up to me or showed me any bikes. So I left ad went to Harley and got a cvo ultra. Will never go into a Indian dealership again
Boycott thousands of hard working of Americans into layoff. Nope, not me. I'm a Conservative, but I'm an American first. Every company in America is woke including Polaris/Indian. I refuse to let the media no matter what they tell us to do have any weight on my life choices.
Indian is more of a 'made in usa' bike than a Harley, been a while btw. Doesn't matter it's own by Polaris (it's a rather good sign, they have excellent track record as far as quality and reliability), then you still have the opportunity to buy Buells , which they try ro restart properly, this one is 99.99% made in usa (some washer or rubber might come from overseas)
@@philippeallemant8524 I’m looking at the new Buell and considering it. And I really do like the Indian challenger. Next year, depending on our economy, I may be buying an Indian challenger.
@@0hi0hdmc the challenger actually has a victory born engine if I recall correctly, they were awesome machines. Very reliable . Buells 1125's from which are derived the actual 'reborn' ones are incredible bikes, aluminum fuel in frame chassis are amongst the best even by today's standards and the engine design is amazing, can't speak for the new ones since we don't have them in Europe though, but these coming from a similar design are bound to be even better than the original 1125s design I would guess, you should probably try one if given the chance, they are something else, nothing feels like a Buell.
If you want to make a boycott more effective remember to also boycott merchandise. That's where the profit is. Any little thing with the Harley logo on it.
Everyone: Motorcycles bring a smile to my face. Harley Riders.. 😠 The mean mug image can only last so long. Modern retro styling can work. It worked for the Challenger for 20 years. But Dodge also innovated over the course of its production. You’re not going to get a new crowd if you’re still selling to the old one. I’m not Harley guy but the ones I like actual HD riders don’t like them LOL! Everyone’s hates the XR1200.
Just ride your Harley man. People need to stop complaining about everything and do something with their lives. Like who actually bought a Harley cause the commercials were cool or the marketing really spoke to them. I just got it cause it looked cool and inspired me to ride. And to boycott a brand when it employs people from all walks of life who just trying to make a living is silly.
You seem like a nice dude but these stats are off. They are not facts. Harley WAS a working mans bike and was a huge part of the 60’s and 70’s Outlaw circuit. Jochen Zeitz forcing white employees into DEI camping excursions was only brought on over the last few years and the Reveals ALWAYS having to feature gay bike engineers is all in Recent years. I dont give a f who buys Harleys but to see a brand I grew up loving move this far Left is disgusting and I have ZERO problem boycotting them. Indian as well. We need to send a Clear Message to all newly woke companies they will LOSE their “Base” if they mess with Masculine, American values.
They absolutely hated the outlaw clubs and chopper clubs of the 60’s and 70’s because those clubs modified the bikes and did not buy their parts or accessories. Also they did not want the stigma of being associated with the clubs. Watch the interview with Sonny Barger and how they were treated until Willie G started introducing their style in the 80’s
My Pops was in a national club back in the seventies and boycotted them back then because they've always distanced themselves from the very people that kept them in business. So for over 50 years I've seen the Davidson either taken off the bikes or crossed out leaving the Harley name plate untouched. I've always ridden my bikes (I collect) the same way. All someone has to do is make another American bike that has the shake and the sound, which is the allure of Harley. Don't think that the 1% clubs haven't contributed to that allure. Sure people like the shake, the sound, the look but don't be mistaken. Alot of people also went for the bad boy biker thing as well. All the board of directors if you investigate their past and the companies they've managed everyone if them went hard left. I've always bought my Harleys used anyway. I mean, where are you gonna buy a Dyna Wide Glide with 8 thousand miles on it for 5 grand. It's why I own 15 Harleys. I buy smart. I'll always ride Harley myself but will not support a company that supports a movement that wants to shove their point of view into my life. The same people (woke) celebrate a criminal doing criminal shit and burn down cities that had nothing to do with "I can't breath". Back when I was 40 years old I'd spent half my life incarcerated. I've had my ass whooped by several cops back in the 80s. Wanna know something? I deserved all I got and knew I was going to have to pay the piper some day. Those ass whoopings I took by the cops? I gave as good as I got. I've blacked some eyes, broken some noses. Never got an assault charge out of it. Men fighting Men back then. Cops and bikers used to enjoy a good knuckling up. Became " friendish" with a couple of them later on in life. Point being the people I ride with and a lot that I don't ride with are just simple no nonsense people. No gray areas. Right is right, wrong is wrong. Harley's future depends on those types of people. Or just start making mopeds in Taiwan.
I honestly like the older dyna models. I miss my wide glide. Wife loves riding so, baggers after that, but as long as your riding, most people don't care what it is. Any kind of grown man would ride with you or stop and help you all the same.
Most of the younger generation have no interest in motorcycles. Very few of the woke generation will buy Harleys. Also Harley's high prices scare off people.
I was with you until the Indian hate, haha. So what if they're Polaris. They're nice bikes. Harley used to make golf carts and snowmobiles and... EVs. Who cares.
The only reason I mentioned Indian was because everyone who is talking about boycotting Harley has mentioned they will buy Indian. And Indian motorcycles are not the original Indian that produced American motorcycles. Just pointing out further that Harley is the only original American motorcycle manufacturer still producing motorcycles.
I would buy and ride and Indian any day of the week, I love the challenger I think personally it looks better than the road glide, but I’ll always own at least one harley
I’ll ride Japanese bikes, they’re a better bike anyway. I owned an FJR when my ryd’n partner rode a road glide. I sold my FJR only because it didn’t have cruise control. I test drove Harley and Victory. Victory won the handling part of riding so I bought one. Then my buddy sold his bike, then I sold my bike. Now I’m buying another FJR. I Don’t have to plan my passes when I’m on an FJR like I did on my Victory or if you rode a Harley. The new thing is the Adventure bikes. 200 miles on dirt roads doesn’t appeal to me. I have a dirt bike for off road riding. Besides that 90% of Adventure bikers spend most of their time on pavement. I don’t make my decisions on what everyone else rides. I ride what works best for me. BTW I can get a great buy on a used FJR FOR NEXT TOO NOTHING 😎
Aligning with people or a group that share your values is normal and a natural instinct for survival. Sooner or later you will have to choose too, whether you like it or not.
@@spartanx169x There is truth to that but by default you're forced to admit that you believe there's only two values, conservative or liberal. I don't live in a two-dimensional world, but hey maybe you do.
Umm I ONLY align with the Right. I wouldnt EVER join what the Left has become. No one earning a paycheck should either. Look back to how much your paycheck earned you in 2017.
I was riding in 60s-70s, not seeing woke even with Harley advertising girls in poodle shirts nothing to do with woke? Your talking $19,000 in 1990s is about costs not woke? I didn't really see Harley being woke until German woke CEO?
Boycott politics on both sides stop letting yourself be told what to do by Karen's like Robbie Starbuck refuse to vote be yourself and stop being a sheep following political parties
People don’t buy Harleys with their money. They buy them with their emotions. Which is why they are constantly whining. Ride your ride, let others ride theirs and shut up.
@@horsedog3674 Yeah that’s it. It must be. I mean what else would I be? You got me. Of all the things I could be, how did you guess? What does Joe Biden have to do with my opinion? At least I think you’re referring to President Joe Biden. I would hate to assume.
Boycotting Harley for a couple years now
😢
No boycott it’s called see yah later… my 2 legs will never walk through a dealership door… you don’t need the perverts parts or motorcycles.. there are to many aftermarket dealers that sell better parts.. by a used bike from a non pervert
The main reason why I will never buy another Harley, the dealerships themselves don’t even hold value to their bikes when trading them in. So why should I value their product at MSRP or markup.
Now when I see someone riding a Harley I hear them saying I'm here and I'm queer
That’s awesome. We felt the same way about Honda riders since the 80s. 😂
Bud Light still hasn't recovered from Sturgis.....The CEO of Harley Davidson should be fired for taking the brand down this path it was his decision not anyone else's at the end of the day. Do your research and you will understand that this is more about a green initiative that allot of Europeans push...... Put an American CEO in there that preserves the companies roots and its V twin engine because without that the bike loses its soul.
Its more to it that the Green Initiative. The GI is just an excuse to tear down every first world country(Financially, culturally, spiritually) to the point that they beg for a One World government.
Bro defending his HD tramp stamp rn.
😂🤣how did you see that?
Red rock Harley in Las Vegas has a pathetic amount of inventory. People are broke and this economy is in shambles.
Election comes soon
Or maybe people are being responsible with the finances they do have?
According to most democrat voters, the economy is fantastic and they can all afford to buy a HG. That's what they say in polling
@@logangodofcandy ride your motorcycle not your mouth!
Maybe they should add a bunch of extra dealer charges. Oh wait... they probably already did.
Overpriced bikes. Should cost half.
Really wish people would just ride their motorcycles and enjoy life. Take the politics out of your everyday lives and just live and enjoy this short time we have on earth.
Exactly, I love my heritage classic and there's no way I'm letting others influence me to get rid of it. Ride for the love of the ride.
Go for 100% aftermarket!
In today’s world, if you know how to check your oil level, you’re considered a mechanic by 99% of people. That should explain a lot about why America is in the current situation we are in.
I love my Harley and will continue buying the bikes they make.
You support your own destruction. That is your choice.
The only voice consumers have is in where they chose to spend their money.
If a company virtue signals that their values are different than yours, than you have every right to not give them your money.
I don't agree with Socialist/Marxist tenants so I don't agree with Harley, hence I am driving a brand new Indian Challenger.
Thanks for the video.
“AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE” That freedom includes the freedom to be as stupid and hateful as you want.
I have been riding Harley since I was 18yrs now I am 71 and I am not going to STOP.
Jochen Zeit president & CEO is NOT Harley and does NOT REPRESENT ME or MY BIKE.
Got rid of my last Harley a couple of years ago! The dealerships are assholes, the parts are stupid expensive, etc! I ride my Indian Scout and Chief! I also enjoy my Yamaha 700 Tenere !
Instead of boycotting any company that has a humanitarian [woke] approach to its marketing... boycott companies that adopt greedy and/or predatory practices as part of their culture. Companies that require consumers to pay $38K for anything priced at $19K is a company you might wanna pull out your torches and pitchforks for. ✌🏾 & ❤️
Fucking A 100% Correct
hell thier not even american made thier a japense made bike now with thier new m8 honda golwing engine dont even sound like a harley anymore a sewing machine sounds better
I agree in many ways with you. Here is my story: i'm a native Swiss, used to work at Harley, as a contractor selling german machinery to produce Harlys. The Problem in fact is the downturn of the economy first, second the age of the customer base. I rode all my life a lot with groups of Harley riders, I remember was always the youngest of the groupe still I am but I turn sixty soon...Harley is NOT woke!!!
You had a good thing going, until that last line.
Actually HG is run by a German socialist for the blackrock commie agenda, similar to the German 40s agenda.
The issue with age is that you spend your life building wealth. Older people continue to have the wealth and younger people are stuck working to buy a Harley at 60.
With the white genocide being committed in the west, the larger ethnic European riders aren't riding because there aren't enough. Good thing we have Indian and Chinese bikes for those markets, but China might be doomed from their 1 child policy and having killed all their baby girls
@CandyMan2001 hahahah you must not see the 50,000$ bikes they are selling! Not going to poor people
The CEO is definitely WOKE and can be proven. Values in companies come from the top. The company will become more open about what they support as time goes. They always do.
No one can even define woke.
Agree! Just a bunch of over emotional people! Especially men! Just ride your motorcycle!!
Explain?
I can define what it was when first used as a slang term by Black people in the 60's. It simply meant being "aware" socially and politically. A simple and positive term has been turned into something else.
New sub, I like where you're coming from on this. Always more than one perspective.
Was looking at an Indian, rode in on my 2011 ultra. Looked at the difference salesman never came up to me or showed me any bikes. So I left ad went to Harley and got a cvo ultra. Will never go into a Indian dealership again
Boycott thousands of hard working of Americans into layoff. Nope, not me. I'm a Conservative, but I'm an American first. Every company in America is woke including Polaris/Indian. I refuse to let the media no matter what they tell us to do have any weight on my life choices.
Spoken like a true patriot. Enjoy your ride brother!
Really Really appreciate this video. Finally I'm not the only tuber speaking up. Thanks for standing up brother. 🍻 👏 ✌️ great video well done.
@@bleekrides just my honest opinion! Appreciate it
Nothing's gonna get me off of my Harley
🇨🇦✌️😎
Same here
I’ll race you on my FJR?
@@terryhagen180…keep racing your FJR
@@breakoutpete210 HELL YEAH😎
@@terryhagen180…stay safe man✌️😎
Indian is more of a 'made in usa' bike than a Harley, been a while btw. Doesn't matter it's own by Polaris (it's a rather good sign, they have excellent track record as far as quality and reliability), then you still have the opportunity to buy Buells , which they try ro restart properly, this one is 99.99% made in usa (some washer or rubber might come from overseas)
@@philippeallemant8524 I’m looking at the new Buell and considering it. And I really do like the Indian challenger. Next year, depending on our economy, I may be buying an Indian challenger.
@@0hi0hdmc the challenger actually has a victory born engine if I recall correctly, they were awesome machines. Very reliable .
Buells 1125's from which are derived the actual 'reborn' ones are incredible bikes, aluminum fuel in frame chassis are amongst the best even by today's standards and the engine design is amazing, can't speak for the new ones since we don't have them in Europe though, but these coming from a similar design are bound to be even better than the original 1125s design I would guess, you should probably try one if given the chance, they are something else, nothing feels like a Buell.
F HD
If you want to make a boycott more effective remember to also boycott merchandise. That's where the profit is. Any little thing with the Harley logo on it.
Censorship testing...test..test.
@@hfd413 just freedom of speech and an honest opinion. Thank you for watching
@@0hi0hdmc I was testing youtube to see if they would censor anything I said. Not about you.
@hfd413 hahahaha
Everyone:
Motorcycles bring a smile to my face.
Harley Riders..
😠
The mean mug image can only last so long. Modern retro styling can work. It worked for the Challenger for 20 years. But Dodge also innovated over the course of its production. You’re not going to get a new crowd if you’re still selling to the old one.
I’m not Harley guy but the ones I like actual HD riders don’t like them LOL! Everyone’s hates the XR1200.
🐸🐸🐸GET A HONDA NOT WOKE AND SOME OF THEM HANDEL GREAT LIKE MINE🐸🐸
😂😂😂😂😂😂 RIGHT
Just ride your Harley man. People need to stop complaining about everything and do something with their lives. Like who actually bought a Harley cause the commercials were cool or the marketing really spoke to them. I just got it cause it looked cool and inspired me to ride. And to boycott a brand when it employs people from all walks of life who just trying to make a living is silly.
Say it louder for the people in the back please!!
Exactly!
Sad folks in these comments.
You seem like a nice dude but these stats are off. They are not facts. Harley WAS a working mans bike and was a huge part of the 60’s and 70’s Outlaw circuit. Jochen Zeitz forcing white employees into DEI camping excursions was only brought on over the last few years and the Reveals ALWAYS having to feature gay bike engineers is all in Recent years. I dont give a f who buys Harleys but to see a brand I grew up loving move this far Left is disgusting and I have ZERO problem boycotting them. Indian as well. We need to send a Clear Message to all newly woke companies they will LOSE their “Base” if they mess with Masculine, American values.
They absolutely hated the outlaw clubs and chopper clubs of the 60’s and 70’s because those clubs modified the bikes and did not buy their parts or accessories. Also they did not want the stigma of being associated with the clubs. Watch the interview with Sonny Barger and how they were treated until Willie G started introducing their style in the 80’s
If you would have said 30’s 40’s and 50’s I would have agreed
My Pops was in a national club back in the seventies and boycotted them back then because they've always distanced themselves from the very people that kept them in business. So for over 50 years I've seen the Davidson either taken off the bikes or crossed out leaving the Harley name plate untouched. I've always ridden my bikes (I collect) the same way. All someone has to do is make another American bike that has the shake and the sound, which is the allure of Harley. Don't think that the 1% clubs haven't contributed to that allure. Sure people like the shake, the sound, the look but don't be mistaken. Alot of people also went for the bad boy biker thing as well. All the board of directors if you investigate their past and the companies they've managed everyone if them went hard left. I've always bought my Harleys used anyway. I mean, where are you gonna buy a Dyna Wide Glide with 8 thousand miles on it for 5 grand. It's why I own 15 Harleys. I buy smart. I'll always ride Harley myself but will not support a company that supports a movement that wants to shove their point of view into my life. The same people (woke) celebrate a criminal doing criminal shit and burn down cities that had nothing to do with "I can't breath". Back when I was 40 years old I'd spent half my life incarcerated. I've had my ass whooped by several cops back in the 80s. Wanna know something? I deserved all I got and knew I was going to have to pay the piper some day. Those ass whoopings I took by the cops? I gave as good as I got. I've blacked some eyes, broken some noses. Never got an assault charge out of it. Men fighting Men back then. Cops and bikers used to enjoy a good knuckling up. Became " friendish" with a couple of them later on in life. Point being the people I ride with and a lot that I don't ride with are just simple no nonsense people. No gray areas. Right is right, wrong is wrong. Harley's future depends on those types of people. Or just start making mopeds in Taiwan.
I think the buell super cruiser is going to open a lot of doors. I’m looking at one and can’t wait to ride one
@@0hi0hdmc Always enjoyed Buell.👍
Not that I don't want one but I'll never be able to afford a brand new Harley-Davidson. That's why I bought a 2003 FXDL Lowrider a few years ago.
@@davepelfrey3958 great bike! I honestly prefer the classics
I honestly like the older dyna models. I miss my wide glide. Wife loves riding so, baggers after that, but as long as your riding, most people don't care what it is. Any kind of grown man would ride with you or stop and help you all the same.
Well spoken sir..👍👍👍👍🇦🇺
I haven't liked the direction they've taken since 2017 and they haven't made any bikes I would buy since November 2022.
Well you seen the way the dealership looked when we were there couple weeks ago.
@@muddybranch1678 flooded
Most of the younger generation have no interest in motorcycles. Very few of the woke generation will buy Harleys. Also Harley's high prices scare off people.
I was with you until the Indian hate, haha. So what if they're Polaris. They're nice bikes. Harley used to make golf carts and snowmobiles and... EVs. Who cares.
The only reason I mentioned Indian was because everyone who is talking about boycotting Harley has mentioned they will buy Indian. And Indian motorcycles are not the original Indian that produced American motorcycles. Just pointing out further that Harley is the only original American motorcycle manufacturer still producing motorcycles.
I would buy and ride and Indian any day of the week, I love the challenger I think personally it looks better than the road glide, but I’ll always own at least one harley
@0hi0hdmc Good video, though, dude. Level headed response.
@@shooter-vx7xy thank you I feel like too many people are reacting over this but not speaking out about local issues or policies
I’ll ride Japanese bikes, they’re a better bike anyway. I owned an FJR when my ryd’n partner rode a road glide. I sold my FJR only because it didn’t have cruise control. I test drove Harley and Victory. Victory won the handling part of riding so I bought one. Then my buddy sold his bike, then I sold my bike. Now I’m buying another FJR. I Don’t have to plan my passes when I’m on an FJR like I did on my Victory or if you rode a Harley. The new thing is the Adventure bikes. 200 miles on dirt roads doesn’t appeal to me. I have a dirt bike for off road riding. Besides that 90% of Adventure bikers spend most of their time on pavement. I don’t make my decisions on what everyone else rides. I ride what works best for me. BTW I can get a great buy on a used FJR FOR NEXT TOO NOTHING 😎
Aligning yourselves with a corporation is silly. Blindly aligning yourselves with one of two political camps is brainless.
Do commonly align yourself with bad things? You seem to have experience.
Aligning with people or a group that share your values is normal and a natural instinct for survival. Sooner or later you will have to choose too, whether you like it or not.
@@spartanx169x There is truth to that but by default you're forced to admit that you believe there's only two values, conservative or liberal. I don't live in a two-dimensional world, but hey maybe you do.
Umm I ONLY align with the Right. I wouldnt EVER join what the Left has become. No one earning a paycheck should either. Look back to how much your paycheck earned you in 2017.
I was riding in 60s-70s, not seeing woke even with Harley advertising girls in poodle shirts nothing to do with woke? Your talking $19,000 in 1990s is about costs not woke? I didn't really see Harley being woke until German woke CEO?
Just ride your motorcycle!
Boycott politics on both sides stop letting yourself be told what to do by Karen's like Robbie Starbuck refuse to vote be yourself and stop being a sheep following political parties
They suck.
People don’t buy Harleys with their money. They buy them with their emotions. Which is why they are constantly whining.
Ride your ride, let others ride theirs and shut up.
Great philosophy! 😓
Mark B you must a Biden Boy.
@@horsedog3674 Yeah that’s it. It must be. I mean what else would I be? You got me. Of all the things I could be, how did you guess?
What does Joe Biden have to do with my opinion? At least I think you’re referring to President Joe Biden. I would hate to assume.
Indian bikes are better than Harley!