Jonathan Wong you guys know that’s also dependent on how much you played during those days right lol. I’m extremely low spend, I buy monthly gems and battle pass. At the same day I have like 14 6s and my athel has been in the vault for months
I'm almost at 250 and I'm Dragon 17, spider 15-ish and fireknight 1 (lol) so. I'm not sure how unless you are getting free resources or dumping every crystal into energy instead of new units (which I feel new units to be incredibly helpful until you have a good stable)
Adam Taylor it’s possible he hasn’t received game changing champs yet. Hopefully his starter is Kael and then it’s totally fine to use him into near endgame. Any other starter and they’re not bringing anything to the table you should need anymore
Best videos. The details that you cover are great and the length of the video s perfect.... the Goldilocks of video length... not too long and not too short.. just right.
Gotta love that this guy is better than legendary Teela Goremane..... Why are there so many bad legendaries? Makes pulling something like Teela feel so bad : (
I been using him in the clan boss for a week now and it may just be me, but he always seems to put the crit debuff first, havent seen the attack debuff applied first once.
Wow, I've struggled with even 4 keying brutal CB. I saw your CB bit at the end and was like "holy shit I have 4/5 of those champs and the only one I didn't have was the poisoner, but I have a number of S tier poisoners. Turns out I have a new goal to shoot for in CB. love your content, truly truly. Blessings :)
Have him already and will be getting a second in two weeks, he is really good, will be using both, i want to test if when a dec c.dmg debuff is already there, the second ghrush will be forced to place the dec atk debuff. If yes i will keep both for cb
His 2nd skill having an OR in there does serve to reduce the number of debuff slots he takes up on the clan boss. Also, decrease crit damage has more impact on non attack scaling skills than decrease attack. Which means that the one you get more often is the one that is less effective against the type of enemy that is going to attack next. So he'll put decrease attack on a Tayrel and decrease crit damage on a Foli. Simple math.
HH, during CB action, you had NO DECREASE DEF for the run! So you have had massively lowered your outcome. This ogryn champ is very strong, I guess he's able to be used in 1-key NM with ease. I do use my Lightsworn like that, mostly 1-key runs!
I pulled him early from a shard. Not fully maxed or well-geared yet. The leach is very effective. He's gotten me a few more faction wars stars so far since my only other good Ogryn champ is Big Un.
Perfect timing ... I haven't reached that point yet, but I just pulled him the other day. And, that spider team ... this may be one of the first videos where I actually have all the champs you used: Coldheart, Kantra, Ghrush, Khatun and Mr. Stag Knight. (Of course my Kantra, Ghrush and High Khatun are only level 5 ... )
I pulled him 2 weeks ago and I was so happy I got my first frozen banshee at the same time that I went mehhhhh looks ugly ... This is why subscribing to your channel is important !!!! Thank you !!!
Can you explain why you don't like the decrease crit damage as much as the decrease attack, because everyone always says when you're building your own team you want crit damage on your own champs and attack doesnt matter as much... isnt this strange?
Something along the lines of bossed tend to have more attack versus crit rate/damage. That’s why something like Avenging gear won’t do you much good. Bosses aren’t particularly likely to crit therefore the gear wouldn’t trigger.
I get him tomorrow night. I'm looking at those two AOE attacks and thinking along the lines of a stun set. With him and Bellower both in stun they will deal with the waves, he heals the party, maybe use an Immortal set as the 2 part set that way he heals himself. I'm pretty weak in Ogrin faction wars and that might make it a lot easier.
Why run Jareg on the CB showcase? Surely he will get in the way of testing ATK down? I notice you have done this on a couple of champs you tested previously with ATK down.
I am very lategame, bunch of 60 champs. Used to play for D-champs a lot, and I say: built him for full power. VERY GOOD, A -class even close to S. You wont be disappointed!
They should change it to "50% chance to place Decrease DEF. 50% chance to place Crit Down if enemy is not under Decrease DEF" so it tries defense down 1st, then Crit if that isn't placed? Seems like other champs have this type of mechanic (none springing to mind atm).
HH, have any of you creators mentioned to the devs to do a QoL update that would allow a preset gear load out? where you can save all the gear you have on a champ, to easily reset your champ to a previously used and saved set of gear?
@@TheSianFromAtlantis Thanks for the quick answer. So I have another straight away, shall i add Seneshal to cb team for its leech (no other benefits from him just the hits) or wait for this fella who seems to have way more tools. (though it is like 4 months to get there to me.)
would 100% decrease c. damage be OP? probably. but 30% does not seem comparable to 60% decrease attack. Anyway, I wish they would put out a champ that had a ton of decrease c. damage for the arena
I would think that in his personal opinion he thinks Ghrush needs books, but maybe he talked to a lot of people and they said he didn't so using the popular vote he put it in as you don't need books :P
Noticed you've got a occult brawler. Could you please do a video where you compare nightmare damage of occult vs frozen banshee? I have them both but can't decide which to 6*
HH - allot of people have been saying that "since introducing speed gear for sale" ".... Dragon has been dropping crap speed gear" I'm curious.,... are you seeing this as well? Do we have reason to believe the "Conspiracy Theorists"? Thoughts?
Im no where near level 20 and im 2 days away from 240 days. but i tend to get drunk and decide to up the level of somebody and not have the silver to take off th egear so i just trash it. have done it so many times i should have so much good gear that i dont anymore lol damn you beer
Everytime Champions are getting equiped it is like "C-Dmg scales easily much better thank Atk" ....and now C-Dmg reduction is worse than decrease atk? Can someone please explain? Is it just a fact by experience or is there any formula?
Attack from gear only scales off the character's base attack stat, whereas crit damage scales off your full attack including gear. Attack down similarly reduces the total stat and not just the base amount. Someone with 50% crit damage reduced by 30% still hits for 120% of their attack. The same character with attack down will hit for 75% since it cuts their attack stat in half.
Day 240 today for me... only having 5 lvl 60 now... I am ashamed... :-S Always farming... I do have many lvl 40 and lvl 50 now... but getting it up to lvl 60 requires many I think.
HH. Could you investigate Brutal 12-3 levelling up reduction in xp please. Testing another person's theory, as they had wrote down how much xp 12-3 gives, I noticed a level 1 common will now only go to level 6 in one run. It used to be around level 8. Have Plarium craftily reduced it ? Cheers.
Not gonna lie I thought this was decrease atk AND decrease crit. dmg, why is it even a OR ? I mean even it was both, this wouldn't make him insane, it's just stupid ? :D
That word need to be AND not OR ... now kinda low bcs only that leech usefull on cb otherwise u can use him on dec atk slot . idk im on 120 day now i dont think i will use him anywhere in game im full free to play and i can say i have no luck ... no decrease defense or decrease atk champ for now -.-
Lol, “behave Siphi, behave!” Priceless.
cracked me up xD
Siphi is such a bad girl!
I loved his first pause...he was going to kill the dog and then realized...I'm recording.
3:20 somebody wanted to be noticed 😂
"Hopefuly At day 240 you coming up at the End game..."
Me at day 212, still using my starter as my main. :(
Lol, I just hit level 70 and I'm like ... uh, I don't feel like I deserve that...
I’m at day 224, level 58, with only 5 6* champs and relying heavily on my starter Elhain
Jonathan Wong you guys know that’s also dependent on how much you played during those days right lol. I’m extremely low spend, I buy monthly gems and battle pass. At the same day I have like 14 6s and my athel has been in the vault for months
I'm almost at 250 and I'm Dragon 17, spider 15-ish and fireknight 1 (lol) so. I'm not sure how unless you are getting free resources or dumping every crystal into energy instead of new units (which I feel new units to be incredibly helpful until you have a good stable)
Adam Taylor it’s possible he hasn’t received game changing champs yet. Hopefully his starter is Kael and then it’s totally fine to use him into near endgame. Any other starter and they’re not bringing anything to the table you should need anymore
HH: that keeps us staying alive.
Me 2 seconds later: ha ha ha ha stayin aliiiiiivvveeeeee
nice! It's even more like: stayin' aliiii hi hi hiiiii ah hahiiiiii iiii ve! lol
damn, I actually wanted to comment the same thing haha (great minds think alike)
I love that reaction to the Crimson Helm, dont you hate it when your team slows down because of a block damage champ never getting their turn. XD
Yeah so annoying haha
Best videos. The details that you cover are great and the length of the video s perfect.... the Goldilocks of video length... not too long and not too short.. just right.
Pulled mine today with 56 days played :) Used an Ancient Shard and got him. I think I will focus him for CB at my low level stage.
Gotta love that this guy is better than legendary Teela Goremane..... Why are there so many bad legendaries? Makes pulling something like Teela feel so bad : (
worst off all is that she is not on the buff list
I put him in poison gear for NM CB team. Keeps my team going for extra rounds and drops poisons too.
IT should be "or if the enemy already have an atk down".
It's funny cause he's starting to say "The other thing to be aware of" and the dog barks like "Yeah, me dude! Play with me!" Hehehe
I been using him in the clan boss for a week now and it may just be me, but he always seems to put the crit debuff first, havent seen the attack debuff applied first once.
Wow, I've struggled with even 4 keying brutal CB. I saw your CB bit at the end and was like "holy shit I have 4/5 of those champs and the only one I didn't have was the poisoner, but I have a number of S tier poisoners. Turns out I have a new goal to shoot for in CB. love your content, truly truly. Blessings :)
Can’t wait to get him and try him out!
Have him already and will be getting a second in two weeks, he is really good, will be using both, i want to test if when a dec c.dmg debuff is already there, the second ghrush will be forced to place the dec atk debuff. If yes i will keep both for cb
His 2nd skill having an OR in there does serve to reduce the number of debuff slots he takes up on the clan boss.
Also, decrease crit damage has more impact on non attack scaling skills than decrease attack. Which means that the one you get more often is the one that is less effective against the type of enemy that is going to attack next. So he'll put decrease attack on a Tayrel and decrease crit damage on a Foli. Simple math.
HH, during CB action, you had NO DECREASE DEF for the run! So you have had massively lowered your outcome. This ogryn champ is very strong, I guess he's able to be used in 1-key NM with ease. I do use my Lightsworn like that, mostly 1-key runs!
You are very good luck! I was watching as I was pulling shards, hoping for an epic and I got a Lego !
Didn't expect that instagram
@@demersplaylist923 Instagram?
Thanks a ton I just got him today
He looks good, wonder how he'd pair with Ma'shalled, as the Salad A1 targets leach. But I guess, overkill heals.
I pulled him early from a shard. Not fully maxed or well-geared yet. The leach is very effective. He's gotten me a few more faction wars stars so far since my only other good Ogryn champ is Big Un.
Can you explain the placement in CB? How does it affect what debuffs get priority? Does ally attack pull them in that order or something?
He is perfect for my arena. I have a mausoleum mage and my drexthar hits for around 60 k (as a defensive champ). This dude will be another drexthar :)
Another really informative video, I shall look forward to getting him now as I was feeling the new free champs didn't seem very good.
he's a great champ, especially for CB. Just wish his his a2 was _and_ and nor _or_. Can't rely on him as your only atk down.
Do u recomend not using life steel and using him instead for cb?
Perfect timing ... I haven't reached that point yet, but I just pulled him the other day. And, that spider team ... this may be one of the first videos where I actually have all the champs you used: Coldheart, Kantra, Ghrush, Khatun and Mr. Stag Knight. (Of course my Kantra, Ghrush and High Khatun are only level 5 ... )
Great video Hell Hades, will level him up once I get him!
I pulled him 2 weeks ago and I was so happy I got my first frozen banshee at the same time that I went mehhhhh looks ugly ... This is why subscribing to your channel is important !!!! Thank you !!!
Gotta love it when #HellHound interrupts and you flex those self control muscles. Great vid HH. Looking forward to this champ now!
IG seems like hes spot for sure. Atk down is op for that and less cdmg would make a team not wipe
There’s a spot in the video where I think you bark ha hahahahah 👌🏻😝👌🏻😝
Does the "lay on hands" talent on the support tree buff the 15% and 7.5% heal?
Lol shipi beheiv, champ looks good nice video
Can you explain why you don't like the decrease crit damage as much as the decrease attack, because everyone always says when you're building your own team you want crit damage on your own champs and attack doesnt matter as much... isnt this strange?
Something along the lines of bossed tend to have more attack versus crit rate/damage. That’s why something like Avenging gear won’t do you much good. Bosses aren’t particularly likely to crit therefore the gear wouldn’t trigger.
I get him tomorrow night.
I'm looking at those two AOE attacks and thinking along the lines of a stun set. With him and Bellower both in stun they will deal with the waves, he heals the party, maybe use an Immortal set as the 2 part set that way he heals himself. I'm pretty weak in Ogrin faction wars and that might make it a lot easier.
"Hopefully at day 240 you're already at Dragon 20."
Me: *cries in Dragon 12* ;-;
great guide thanks
HH, you need to update your Champion Tier List where you have him ranked #4 but in the column "needs books?" you stated No
Why run Jareg on the CB showcase? Surely he will get in the way of testing ATK down? I notice you have done this on a couple of champs you tested previously with ATK down.
Would corpse collector be able to do a similar job to this guy?
What if you pulled him early like I did? I’m about to go into Day 112. My Grush is still 40. I’m on Brutal CB. I have mostly 5 star gear
I am very lategame, bunch of 60 champs. Used to play for D-champs a lot, and I say: built him for full power. VERY GOOD, A -class even close to S. You wont be disappointed!
Thanks for the video. I absolutely refuse to build an unkillable cb team... lol
HH how would you do Berlanor? He is my only void legend that isnt Wurmlin. And hoping for a strong buff. If anyone has suggestions lmk
They should change it to "50% chance to place Decrease DEF. 50% chance to place Crit Down if enemy is not under Decrease DEF" so it tries defense down 1st, then Crit if that isn't placed? Seems like other champs have this type of mechanic (none springing to mind atm).
Golden Reaper's A2 for instance
HH, have any of you creators mentioned to the devs to do a QoL update that would allow a preset gear load out? where you can save all the gear you have on a champ, to easily reset your champ to a previously used and saved set of gear?
I keep ranking people around him maybe one day lol. He looks good though thanks for the great content.
Is miscreated better than valk in spiders 20? I guess I'm missing something about his kit
im unlocking him tomorow, only got 5 books saved and cant lvl him yet
Maybe if dec attack is already up, it defaults to def CD?
no ratings? will he be added to the tier list?
I always wanted to ask this. Warmaster also heals if there is a leach placed on target, or only the dmg of the skill matters?
Warmaster works with Leech. It's a beautiful thing.
@@TheSianFromAtlantis Thanks for the quick answer. So I have another straight away, shall i add Seneshal to cb team for its leech (no other benefits from him just the hits) or wait for this fella who seems to have way more tools. (though it is like 4 months to get there to me.)
Ohh, and it was answered by HH too, i was just firing my question way early before get to the cb part..
Just got him off a ancient shard! Not even 60days in :D
Thanks for the video
would 100% decrease c. damage be OP? probably. but 30% does not seem comparable to 60% decrease attack. Anyway, I wish they would put out a champ that had a ton of decrease c. damage for the arena
Does the position of champs matter in CB other than the leader ?
Well make a great addition to my FW team.
I just pulled him on day 117, should I use the login reward one as a book when I get him? xD (can't get enough epic books as f2p x.x)
I actually got brush pulled from a shard at 60 days
Do you use Kantra often?
You tried him everywhere but faction war, which is his best use.
What is the weird ring at 4:10
I have mashalled for leech so not sure I’ll be needing the big guy lol
Was thinking the same thing
why do you say in the video that he needs books and on your tier list it says he does not need books? :P
I would think that in his personal opinion he thinks Ghrush needs books, but maybe he talked to a lot of people and they said he didn't so using the popular vote he put it in as you don't need books :P
Just realizing how good of a healer he actually is in CB...wonder what his multipliers are...
Siphi nuker!
not me noticing that CH got a 312k heal :o
why so much speed artifacts ?
Lol I got him early and using him for Cb
What does the leech debuff do?
Noticed you've got a occult brawler. Could you please do a video where you compare nightmare damage of occult vs frozen banshee? I have them both but can't decide which to 6*
OB is better without counter attack FB is better with.
Check my CB series best poisoners
Pulled him a while ago on my F2P account that's a little behind yours. Maybe I should use him.
HH - allot of people have been saying that "since introducing speed gear for sale" ".... Dragon has been dropping crap speed gear" I'm curious.,... are you seeing this as well? Do we have reason to believe the "Conspiracy Theorists"? Thoughts?
Im no where near level 20 and im 2 days away from 240 days. but i tend to get drunk and decide to up the level of somebody and not have the silver to take off th egear so i just trash it. have done it so many times i should have so much good gear that i dont anymore lol damn you beer
hilight of the video. "BARK"
it's weird because they said it's not possible pull champs for daily login from shards, today i pulled from anciend shard YAGA, so?
You can't pull them from sacreds
@@mattbarnes379 ok,thx
As Seneschal cries in a corner because Ghrush's A1 and 3 make him infinetly more useful than Seneschal.
Everytime Champions are getting equiped it is like "C-Dmg scales easily much better thank Atk" ....and now C-Dmg reduction is worse than decrease atk? Can someone please explain? Is it just a fact by experience or is there any formula?
Attack from gear only scales off the character's base attack stat, whereas crit damage scales off your full attack including gear. Attack down similarly reduces the total stat and not just the base amount.
Someone with 50% crit damage reduced by 30% still hits for 120% of their attack. The same character with attack down will hit for 75% since it cuts their attack stat in half.
Does the clan boss actually crit?
I'm Frugo the one attacked in arena and those 30k A1 from a support champ on my trunda aren't fair T_T
the spread sheet says he does not need books but your video says he does... a little confused here from a newbie
Countdown to getting him 10...9...8...7...
Oh ye
How can I improve my account with bad legends 😑 like my luck with shards is so bad
Do you think he could be better than Mashalled?
as effective for leech i think, not a better overall champ
salad is more usefull than like Stier,This guy need more sauce to be saleable.
Much easier to speed tune, if anything.
Sad, I want to do this man but I have no books
Been waiting for this.
wooof
Day 240 today for me... only having 5 lvl 60 now... I am ashamed... :-S Always farming... I do have many lvl 40 and lvl 50 now... but getting it up to lvl 60 requires many I think.
Another great vid hh
defense on boots? I have been trashing everything but speed boots
HH. Could you investigate Brutal 12-3 levelling up reduction in xp please. Testing another person's theory, as they had wrote down how much xp 12-3 gives, I noticed a level 1 common will now only go to level 6 in one run. It used to be around level 8. Have Plarium craftily reduced it ? Cheers.
You say he needs book to be useful, but your Tier List says he doesn't need books. Can you help me out?
Not gonna lie I thought this was decrease atk AND decrease crit. dmg, why is it even a OR ?
I mean even it was both, this wouldn't make him insane, it's just stupid ? :D
Please make a champion guide for Shatterbones🙏
That word need to be AND not OR ... now kinda low bcs only that leech usefull on cb otherwise u can use him on dec atk slot . idk im on 120 day now i dont think i will use him anywhere in game im full free to play and i can say i have no luck ... no decrease defense or decrease atk champ for now -.-
Behave siphi loll
I’m f2p and at the same login rewards as you, but I’m certainly not end game, more like mid game, end game is p2p takes a lot longer to do it f2p
And I’m at dragon 17, it’s much harder without the correct toons
in that case he is well worth your time
Or
lol fortnight, for americans....you mean young kids. thanks for review got him 2 week ago, good to have some low down on him.