|The Crow| 4k vs. Bluray - Full Review
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Taking a close look at the new 4k of The Crow vs. the older blue ray with side by side comparisons along with a full review of the film.
00:00 Start
2:29 Overview of The Crow
5:05 Unboxing of Steelbook
8:46 Side by Side Comparisons
12:12 Video Quality Rating
13:25 Audio Quality Rating
14:08 Ungraduated Perspective
15:00 Overall Rating of Release
16:03 Closing Thoughts
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Home Theater Video:
Projector:
- 4k Native Laser Projector - Sony VPL - XW5000 (2000 Lumens Standard Throw)
- HD Fury VRROOM (8k VRR adapter HDMI Switch) for Low Latency Dolby Vision (LLDV) and HDR10
Screen:
Elite Screens Cinagrey 3D
4K Bluray Player:
- Panasonic DP-UB820
3D Movie Set up:
Projector:
- Epson PowerLite 3000 (2300 Lumans)
Bluray Player:
- Sony UBP-X700
11.3 Home Theater Audio System:
Speakers:
- Front Speakers - Klipsch Forte IV’s
- Center - Klipsch R-34C
- Surround Sides - Klipsch RP-1400
- Surround Backs - Klipsch R-15M
- 4 Atmos Heights - Klipsch R-140SA
- 2 Klipsch KD-10” Subs placed in front
- 1 Soundshaker Amp in seats acting as 3rd rear sub
A/V Receiver:
- Denon X3800 (powers 9 channels and up to 4 subs)
Power Amp / Pre Amp powering front L&R Klipsch Forte IV speakers:
Vincent SP-332 (power)
Vincent SA-32 (pre)
2 channel stereo Vinyl / Streaming Set up:
Turntable:
- Project Debut Carbon Evo
Upgrades include:
- Aluminum Subplatter
- Acryl-It Platter
- Power Supply - Xinsu Global Switch Model SEC150100 (220v - 60hz - 1.3A)
- Project Record Clamp
Phono Pre-Amp:
- Vincent PHO-701
Sweet Vinyl Sugar Cube SC-2 Plus (pops & click remover / recorder) - Фільми й анімація
The transfer is amazing. Highly recommended
Yes
For me, and it's just a personal thing, I think the dark grittiness of the original film is an intrinsic part of the whole world of the Crow. I don't think I'll be buying the 4k version.
Agree - it’s part of the aesthetic of this film…it’s how it’s meant to be. And hey…you like what you like 👍🏼
Thank you for the video.
I am going to have to strongly disagree with you. The Blu-ray images actually look a lot better than the 4K. The 4K looks like they bumped up the brightness way, way too much, making it look grainy and low quality. It is hard to tell just from some screenshots though.
You are right about the movie and storyline not being particularly good. That is not why we love the movie or comic book though. They do visuals very well and the movie taps very much into 90's nostalgia, just listen to that Stone Temple Pilots song that sold the soundtrack. Interestingly enough, the comic book is very 80's, just look at that hair.
In the comic book, his name is not Draven and O'Barr hated that they gave him a last name in the movie. In the comic, he does not have a last name but you can see when they show his case file, his last name ends with the letter S, so you can surmise that his last name would be Curtis.
They gave him the name Draven as in d raven. You were right to call the bird in the film a raven because it is a raven, not a crow.
Big time! The 4k looks terrible here...
@@MattEdwards1 Oh, so I'm not alone in thinking that. I saw another video talking about how amazing this film looks in 4K which made me really want to see it in 4K. However, I thought the screen shots in this video looked terrible. The Crow is coming to theaters for 2 days this month, but not in my city, otherwise we would go. My dad and my uncle went to The Crow in the theater in 1994.
@@KadeBronson oh, fantastic! I'm gonna check if it's on anywhere near me now you've said that...I love this movie...yeah I thought at first maybe the 4k and Blu-ray stills had been reversed or something lol..
@@MattEdwards1UA-cam does actually output native 4k with HDR 4k60p, never go by actual UA-cam screenshots, they mean absolutely nothing. I’ve seen the 4K in real life side by side (got my copy already) and I can say unequivocally that it looks much better than the bluray.
That is a very in depth and informative response. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
Part of what may be making it look the way it does is I’m literally taking a picture with my phone directly off the projector screen. It’s a highly reflective screen so I think it can often make images look brighter even though I’m taking them in complete darkness.
But I’m trying to show what it would look like on “the big screen.” So maybe not apples to apples.
In the future, I’ll see if I can do more of the same from the bluray so the comparison is more “apples to apples” because when viewing with my own eyes on my equipment, I do believe the 4k is better
I’m not sure if it was Originally in 2:39 aspect ratio in 1994 or 1:85. I know the bluray was in 1:85 same as the 4k so I don’t think they did a resize on this one.
Bottom line if you're a fan of the 1994 The Crow and you're a fan of 35 mm film this is the movie for you this is one of the best transfers I've ever seen. I seen this movie 30 years ago in the theater more than 20 times I know what it looks like and this is how it's supposed to look the regular Blu-ray is okay and there's nothing wrong with it but if you want a better picture quality more detail and filmic like structure and grain this is the movie for you also the title of this video doesn't say anything about criticizing the storyline I thought it was just a transfer review anyways get the movie you won't be disappointed it's better than the Blu-ray by far . Movie studios should pay attention , this is how 35 mm film transfers should look . they're supposed to look like this .
I thought it looked great! But I do always try and talk about the films some too. As much as I love side by side comparisons I also love talking about what we can gather for discuss about each film.
Glad to have had you here checking out the review and thanks for providing your thoughts and perspective.
The only thing they should have done is digitally erase the wire that is seen when one of the bad guys falls in the meeting/massacre scene. Too much grain, strange color at times and even vertical stripes in a few shots on one corner of the frame. An overrated botched transfer.
@@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz how about no , people that think like you end up growing up and turn into James Cameron types and ruin beautiful 35 mm film preservations !
Hi Ken, thanks for this detailed side by side comparison, watched this movie long back on star movies. Need to check it out again.
Just a humble remark, I agree with some of the other commentators here that the 4K looks like we're watching in vivid mode of our TV and the bluray is probably the worst PQ ever. And I guess it's to do with your cam quality or may be since you're watching it on projector screen? Like with Aliens comparison also, I rewatched my bluray on my Sony X95L and believe me or not, it was on par with your 4k Aliens screenshots!
I believe you could probably watch it on your TV to see any difference? The projector lacks some brightness and contrast compared to modern days TVs, may be that's what is revealing here.
Yeah - I’m going to start just simply showing the actual images from the player so that there can be no confusion. It’s probably the best way to show it “neutrally.”
Great review, Ken. I ordered both 4k steelbooks, and they're arriving today. I live in Narnia aka PNW, so my items usually arrive late, or on release day. If everything arrives, my review should be posted tomorrow.
I’ll be checking out your review for sure Frank! Excited to see your thoughts…
@@ungraduatedmedia If you do. I appreciate it. I'm really excited for Friday's video, which is about Giallo and Italian Horror movies.
Great review as always matey.. I haven't seen The Crow since it originally came out on DVD so am long overdue a rewatch lol 😎👍
I didn’t LOVE the film but enjoyed it. Saw it once when I was like 14…still appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed the review.
Watched the 4k yesterday. Looks amazing and one of the best 4Ks available
Hey Ken, would you do a review of Gran Turismo 4k uhd movie. I hear it has fantastic video and audio quality. Would be interesting how you found it before I went about ordering it. Thanks in advance.
Most definitely- I’ll have to grab a copy but as I do, and then work to check it out….stay tuned my good friend!
Thank you my friend.
@@Sas-wk9lj Gran Turismo 4k is ordered on Amazon and when I get it I’ll check it out and get up a review
that's great to hear my friend, really appreciate it that you considered my request. Can't wait to watch your review on how you found it.
Great in-depth review! 4k genuinely looks terrible though compared to the blu ray
I didn’t think it was the best ever transfer but curious to know from your perspective what you most dislike from the 4k vs bluray?
Got my steelbook today. Great looking steel.
It’s gorgeous! But I do hope to find that Walmart exclusive out in the wild somewhere
@@ungraduatedmedia honestly they’re both equally good to me, I don’t need both lol, unless ur looking to resale it
Good review. Still, taking pics with a external camera or a phone for comparing them is not the way to go for various reason. I already said that in one of your previous review.
If I didn't understand or know anything about media stuff and would rely only on your pics to take a buying decision, I wouldn't buy a single movie, no offense intended. Per example :
4K : look way to bright, grain to obvious which take all the place in all your pics. I see only that and it's not supposed. The bird close up at 11:04 is the perfect example of OVER-bright image and lacking contrast, it look almost like a black & white movie. Contrast and depth is 2 different things.
Blu-Ray : look washed out, to dim, DNR at max, lack contrast.
I have the same 4K player as you. 90% of the time, HDR is set to Natural (a notch above Standard) or the third setting (don't know the term in English since my player is set to French), the last setting (I think is Vivid) make the picture too bright since it crank the brightness too much and you lose some fine details and depth in most case.
There are free tools we (media collectors) use since years for backing up our movies (DVD, BD, 4K, etc) and you can even find free tuts on UA-cam that explain step by step how to do it. MakeMKV is the most use one which you can download freely, use to backup your movies in mkv files without losing any A/V quality.
All fair comments - I’m learning the best way to do this / show. I do think I have my player set to natural. And for the bluray I have been just putting it in the player and “recording it” and then saving it to an SDD so I can then capture the screenshot as legit as I can. The problem has been that the recording device doesn’t capture HDR10 or Dolby Vision.
But I do have make MKV as I burn my discs to a NAS unit to play on Plex while I travel and it does capture HDR10 and Dolby Vision.
My hope was to “show what I’m seeing” by taking images from my phone right off the screen. But I see your point…
Moving forward, I’ll be changing to all off make MKV.
@@ungraduatedmedia Yep, I understand your goal of sharing what you see to your audience.
The thing is HDR content is manage and handle by the player and also by the TV / Projector. Having 2 devices in the equation alone and changing only 1 setting will show something different on the screen. Imagine now changing a multitude of settings on both devices... That is why I suggest you to show the image directly from the MKV. Since you already aware of the process, that simplify much. MakeMKV rip everything from the disk indeed. All HDR content.
Also, since 2022, the difference between HDR10, HDR10+, DV and HLG is less pronounced since TV manufacturers color grading chips are far better than 4K TV's prior 2022. For what I saw, the latest 2024 TV's from top brand like LG, Samsung and Sony, HDR content is very well rendered, no matter which HDR encoding is use. DV is becoming more useless than before with latest TV's.
As for UA-cam, HDR content isn't supported so your audience will always see a SDR presentation.
My setup is much simpler than you. I rip my disks to a Windows PC server which is connected to my TV. I watch my movies on this 65" OLED only. I can't watch my movies elsewhere like you but it satisfy me that way.
Continue your good work!
@@SteviesCornerUA-camChannel - completely get where you are coming from and it makes total sense.
Moving forward that will be exactly how I display these side by sides.
Appreciate your thoughts and feedback!
@@ungraduatedmedia Great, happy I can help. Looking forward your next review!
The screenshots are bad yes
movie 4k rezise ?
I'd rather have a DTS-X over an Atmos mix. DTS-X doesn't require height speakers and if you have them then it sounds even more believable. Also DTS-X hits harder/bassier than Dolby Atmos.
I’m actually starting to notice that some. Just finished watching Crimson Peak from Arrow Video which has a DTS-X and with my height speakers it was very active. It was almost like it was Atmos. Not quite ready to call it better yet, but I can see where you’re coming from.
I wonder if it costs labels less to do in DTS-X over Atmos?
@@ungraduatedmedia I found this out when my height speakers won't even installed and the movie Don't Breathe when The Blind Man is walking upstairs it literally sounded like someone was walking above my ceiling. The even freakier thing is there is no floor above my media room and that scene scared my nieces.
@@randybradley4151 I have noticed a few DTS-X mixes where I literally turned around to look at the screen of my Denon receiver to see if it was actually ATMOS or not. Because it damn near seemed like it was or even better.
So great call out - I’m going to be looking more for DTS-X mixes.
Looks like they pumped up the contrast & brightness but lost color on the 4k. I'll stick with my blu-ray.
Don’t completely judge the 4k image from what you’re seeing here…those images were taken directly off my screen with what I was seeing. Was trying to give a view of “my experience” but moving forward will just stick to images off the player so you all can make informed decisions.
@@ungraduatedmedia I have the blu-ray and had the 4k and sold after what I saw. But I was thinking that I watched it on a 80inch tv and maybe that took away the quality.
@@ricogomez4020 yeah IDK brother. Most of mine looked good to me, and I was thinking with the highly reflective 120” projection screen I have that maybe that was making it look worse in the side by sides I put up.
@@ungraduatedmedia I do know that when I watch a bluray on my 40 inch tv the bluray looks amazing but on my 80 inch that same bluray looks like no big deal.
The 4k hdr disc on the TV looks better than these screenshots. Looks amazing
The only thing they should have done is digitally erase the wire that is seen when one of the bad guys falls in the meeting/massacre scene. Too much grain, strange color at times and even vertical stripes in a few shots on one corner of the frame. An overrated botched transfer.
Interesting perspective- most people are raving about this transfer. I thought it was “ok.”
Thank you for chiming in…
Did not notice