First pick workshop seems so bad. Even if you aren't just trying to win first pick workshops is 50/50 to be a huge trap. I love me some Shops but I'll only ever take it on the wheel or packs2/3.
Andreas Hinrichsen I was referring to the fact that LSV has called it overrated several times, and it is. It's great with fast mana, but if you can't accelerate it out it's mediocre, and it's a horrendous top deck. It's a good card but people seem to think it's one of the best cards in the cube and it just isn't.
Jack Buttery I was not aware of That, so I apologise for the condescending comment. All I Can say is That Mind Twist has been a beast in My own powered cube from Day one. Ramp or not, topdeck or not, Mind Twist performs All Day every Day around here.
at 48:50 I assume it was actually right for them to activate survival off wall of roots to discard a creature card to get one of their best reanimation targets in their hand--which you'd be forcing them to discard with mind twist. If they found another reanimation spell or could kill your brain maggot by any means, it was a huge possible advantage for you to force them to discard their hand. My guess is that they forgot that wall of roots could be activated on your turn.
Man that last opponent, have respect man. Magic is a game, people have lives. If someone has to take a call, don't insult them xD totally deserved that savage beating. It's a shame there's toxic players in Cube drafts, seems like a format where thick skin is required.
These pro streamers do shit like that all the time, though. LSV (I think it was) would go over his deck for 5-10min prior to making a first play in like every video..... And, you're totally right that "people have lives". Have you considered that LSV and the like literally play mtg for a living. They have all the time int he world to play mtgo. More likely the opponent may only have an hour or so to play because they DON'T play mtgo for a living. 5 minutes wasted is kinda annoying in that (very realistic) scenario. Fk the hero worship.
I'd be willing to bet that Louis didn't even type "hey man, I'm recording for a video and I just got a very IMPORTANT call so I need to go afk for a few minutes. I'm really sorry, bud.", or something else considerate along those lines. Probably just said nothing, went afk. Hence, the frustration?
Here to compare the way @LSVargas drafted 5 years ago to now. Should be fun. (1st pick shop is so far on brand.) though, recommending conc as a first pick, however, is not. (That card used to be wildly busted. It is now unplayable. Rip)
I think the assumption is people don't watch LSV cube drafts to see disciplined deckbuilding and play; they watch to see cool plays and crazy stuff happen. So he builds toward bomby high-impact strategies. Plus people complain that he only drafts blue decks, so I'm sure that impacted his decision-making to shy away from the Sphinx etc.
I started watching this with headphones on but had to take them off when I first heard you smack your lips together. I watched the rest with the volume down real low to make sure I didn't wake up my parents (it's 1 am here)
What? Hymn, Mind Twist and RR are all great in grixis control builds. Either force op to discard whole hand or enough mass to slow them down. If they are already empty then great, you probably already won. Also this is vintage cube so EVERYONE has fast mana
Mind twist is pretty medium. It's a card I'll play but I'm hoping to pick it up a bit later than most I think. Ya it's good with fast mana but there's tons of good stuff to do with fast mana, and it's a horrendous topdeck.
I was implicitly promised a Necropotence from the thumbnail and I feel so betrayed right now
I loved all the "We don't need X card." Next pick...."We should have picked up X card." lol
How do I know LSV loves cube? Literally every new pack he says “Oooo”
Wilson Fisher honestly his excitement for the format makes the content that much more enjoyable.
Lsv didn't first pick consecrated sphinx... blink twice if they're holding you hostage
blink twice, and we will sense it.... somehow.
I guess he would rather blink with kicker
Flashback momentary blink on battleball seems solid
First pick workshop seems so bad. Even if you aren't just trying to win first pick workshops is 50/50 to be a huge trap. I love me some Shops but I'll only ever take it on the wheel or packs2/3.
And no Force of Will second pick. I'm shocked.
"Braids and Smokestack? I can't resist The Bad Plan"
Me either dude.
13:46 "All right, this deck's pretty sweet."
50:37 "We went 2-1 with a deck which I thought was pretty bad."
Ah yes
I've never clicked on a notification so fast in my life.
This kind of content is why I'm subbed to this channel. Vintage Cube ftw!
I'm a simple man, I see a vintage cube draft video with LSV, I click.
I go to the hospital afterwards to get my priapism cured.
When Luis picked the manabase there was a brief moment when his voice sounded just like Efro's... Trippy
Chalupacabra.
I clicked the like button because this video involved lsv and magic the gathering
the glorious return of vintage cube
its crazy how many standart cards are in this format!
Because WOTC puts them there. :p
Workshop into Mind Twist: "Pick the Top 8 Most Overrated Cube Cards" Challenge.
Jack Buttery stipulation draft ;)
Mind Twist overrated? Sure bud...
Andreas Hinrichsen I was referring to the fact that LSV has called it overrated several times, and it is. It's great with fast mana, but if you can't accelerate it out it's mediocre, and it's a horrendous top deck. It's a good card but people seem to think it's one of the best cards in the cube and it just isn't.
Jack Buttery I was not aware of That, so I apologise for the condescending comment. All I Can say is That Mind Twist has been a beast in My own powered cube from Day one. Ramp or not, topdeck or not, Mind Twist performs All Day every Day around here.
Yes, LSV cube videos are the best thing on CFB!
Necro for thumbnail but no necro in deck
Since this video LSV's assessment of Library has drastically changed...
For real, it's funny hearing him trash it now after gushing over it in these vintage cube drafts
FINALLY A CUBE VIDEO 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Wow....watch again from first pack and draft mono white...
But then you have to play 3 matches of mono white...
Necropotence as thumbnail=Dylan WILL watch this
Hope this one goes down as a classic.
LSV + Vintage Cube I cant wish for more
at 48:50 I assume it was actually right for them to activate survival off wall of roots to discard a creature card to get one of their best reanimation targets in their hand--which you'd be forcing them to discard with mind twist. If they found another reanimation spell or could kill your brain maggot by any means, it was a huge possible advantage for you to force them to discard their hand.
My guess is that they forgot that wall of roots could be activated on your turn.
Man that last opponent, have respect man. Magic is a game, people have lives. If someone has to take a call, don't insult them xD totally deserved that savage beating. It's a shame there's toxic players in Cube drafts, seems like a format where thick skin is required.
These pro streamers do shit like that all the time, though. LSV (I think it was) would go over his deck for 5-10min prior to making a first play in like every video..... And, you're totally right that "people have lives". Have you considered that LSV and the like literally play mtg for a living. They have all the time int he world to play mtgo. More likely the opponent may only have an hour or so to play because they DON'T play mtgo for a living. 5 minutes wasted is kinda annoying in that (very realistic) scenario.
Fk the hero worship.
I'd be willing to bet that Louis didn't even type "hey man, I'm recording for a video and I just got a very IMPORTANT call so I need to go afk for a few minutes. I'm really sorry, bud.", or something else considerate along those lines. Probably just said nothing, went afk. Hence, the frustration?
48:00 Are you kidding me with that ad placement?!
Wurmcoil engine > reanimate. I love it
In game 2 round 2 you played Spellskite in preparation for the Mindtwist, but then didn't use it? =S
blue back would have been so sick
how Do you count your manasources with urbog in the deck?
When you forget how to pronounce a word, but have to keep talking to keep viewer interest.
6:36 "Ooo, Massakree Wurm"
My first guess, before the video even starts. He forces storm.
LSV doesn't draft blue control but proceeds to get passed all the best blue control cards. Why doesn't this happen to me in vintage cube? Lol.
Maybe a dumb question but why didn’t LSV have to discard to hand size when drawing to eight cards with Library? Am I missing something?
Rastrisfrustreslos Gomez yeah, but doesn’t he end the turn with 8 cards?
Pissed he passed on Sundering Titan, then didn't even play Sneak Attack :T
Picking sneak and all those sick creatures then not playing it hurt me inside
We demand Cranial Plating in Vintage.
Saw the first pick and would've bet my house that LSV would take Sphinx. Guess I'm homeless now...
Should have use command to destroy their manglehorn and signet earlier. No craterhoof, no tapped artifacts and less combat damage.
Can you not spellskite the equip of the sword in match 2 g3?
No I believe the activation of equipment says target creature you control.
no, the spellskite target has to be legal, and equipment can only target creatures you control.
Here to compare the way @LSVargas drafted 5 years ago to now. Should be fun. (1st pick shop is so far on brand.) though, recommending conc as a first pick, however, is not. (That card used to be wildly busted. It is now unplayable. Rip)
round 1 opp doesn't like the brown nor the Smokestack/Braids
I'm glad pack 2 of the draft was kinder than pack 1 was.
they thought it was GG, but it was BG (midrange)
I would've 100% taken the chrome mox.
Then even if he draws a land, he only has 2 mana lol, the opponent would have no chance
Massah-Cray Worm
its crazy the amount of views this has compared to likes
In match 2 game 2 couldn't you have kept them off of sword by using spellskite to retarget it?
Couldn't Massacre Wurm have won the game in r2g2?
i cant tell if you're mispronouncing words on purpose or not xD
He is.
He always is.
What do you mean? He says everything fine.
massacré
Ohh yes daddy
Why the silly picks tho?
I think the assumption is people don't watch LSV cube drafts to see disciplined deckbuilding and play; they watch to see cool plays and crazy stuff happen. So he builds toward bomby high-impact strategies. Plus people complain that he only drafts blue decks, so I'm sure that impacted his decision-making to shy away from the Sphinx etc.
I started watching this with headphones on but had to take them off when I first heard you smack your lips together. I watched the rest with the volume down real low to make sure I didn't wake up my parents (it's 1 am here)
uh....ok.
Unfortunate flooding a few games there. Library OP needs nerf.
Mind twist terrible until now apparently
mind twist is fine in cube
argsgsgs gnngndg tell that to LSV a few months ago
Its terrible unless your in fast mana it's good as a late pick up rubbish early
What? Hymn, Mind Twist and RR are all great in grixis control builds. Either force op to discard whole hand or enough mass to slow them down. If they are already empty then great, you probably already won. Also this is vintage cube so EVERYONE has fast mana
Mind twist is pretty medium. It's a card I'll play but I'm hoping to pick it up a bit later than most I think. Ya it's good with fast mana but there's tons of good stuff to do with fast mana, and it's a horrendous topdeck.
Why does he always sound like he’s got food in his mouth?
LSV. FFS. FIX YOUR AUDIO SYNC
So many turn 1 Libraries--I HOPE YOU'RE ENJOYING THE #WHITELIST