CH7 Sydney 300W NEC TV Transmitter Teardown

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  • Опубліковано 23 лют 2024
  • This is the actual NEC V360CH 360W TV transmitter that was used for the CH7 analog TV transmission in Sydney for many decades until analog TV was switched off.
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  • @johncundiss9098
    @johncundiss9098 2 місяці тому +29

    Circulator, circa 1982. Splitter/ combiners used in all kinds of RF applications. More please. It is rare that Dave does something with RF involved and would love to see more.

  • @hoofie2002
    @hoofie2002 2 місяці тому +26

    RF design is a form of art.

    • @echelonrank3927
      @echelonrank3927 2 місяці тому +2

      ha ha, people at work said its black magic. the same people who are doing more complex things 🤣

  • @tlhIngan
    @tlhIngan 2 місяці тому +7

    Circulators are a bit more advanced than that. Basically it's a multi-port device, and if we label the ports (for a 3 port device, port 1, 2 and 3), RF that comes in on port 1 goes out port 2., RF that comes in on port 2 goes out on port 3, and RF that comes in on port 3 goes out port 1. They are very useful in amplifiers because you can put the amplified output in port 1 and have port 2 be the antenna, and if you receive anything on port 2 (either due to antenna mismatch or a received signal), it goes out on port 3, so you can transmit and receive on one output. Useful for things like modems and such where you want full duplex operation so your cable modem transmits out to the cable, and receives on the cable and the tx and rx circuits are relatively isolated so you're not blasting your rx circuit with transmit power.

  • @msylvain59
    @msylvain59 2 місяці тому +7

    I have been waiting for the teardown of this unit for years 🥺

  • @zebo-the-fat
    @zebo-the-fat 2 місяці тому +3

    Brain melts at the idea of a 300 watt pre amp!

  • @Chriva
    @Chriva 2 місяці тому +6

    "Little stargates inside". Well, that was certainly unexpected lol

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics 2 місяці тому +11

    Always appreciating a teardown, especially if it comes in a 19" form factor. Thing of beauty, joy for ever.
    IMSAI Guy made a few videos on circulators, BTW.

  • @rtronicslab1253
    @rtronicslab1253 2 місяці тому +1

    when i eat i use to watch your tear down videos...don't know its kind of wired for the person sitting next to me or others in the room...but i enjoy watching your tear down videos long ones specially.....this gonna be a wonderful one ...cause i kind of develop interest in RF recent days...lots of things to learn...

  • @Edisson.
    @Edisson. 2 місяці тому +2

    Soooo and Sydney is off the air for Channel Seven's Twentieth Century Time Travelers - Dave took apart the amp 🤣
    Ingenious construction, thanks for the example .

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 2 місяці тому +4

    Durability and protection circuits. Things have to be important to design all that in.

  • @cambridgemart2075
    @cambridgemart2075 День тому

    The 'preamp' is actually an IPA, an intermediate power amplifier.

  • @cambridgemart2075
    @cambridgemart2075 День тому

    The 'rigid' coax looks more like semirigid coax; it can typically be formed by hand, whereas rigid coax is exactly that, manufactured in the particular shape rather than being made from coax cable from a roll as semirigid cables are.

  • @aspergerio
    @aspergerio 2 місяці тому

    You're right, I became a tripod when that cover came off

  • @MikeJohnMentzer
    @MikeJohnMentzer 2 місяці тому +2

    Can't help but say that the circuitry looks beautiful!

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 місяці тому +1

      Looking at the right side it seems the board was hand drawn. Non of this CAD laziness. 😁 Just beautiful.

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 2 місяці тому +1

    I have a device that looks like this but it has way more stages but also in 19" rack format. The combiners and spliters in the one I have are made from discreet torroids. The final stage has an off the shelf combiner that takes the signals from all the amplifier stages, combines them and spits the signal out the output jack. The one I have appears to take 3-phase AC as input which is rectified to DC for all the power stages.

  • @mikewillis1592
    @mikewillis1592 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow - VHF TV, That's not been used for many decades here, I think the last UK stations was retired in 1985 owing to the 1.21 GW of power needed. Good to see something RF. The main PA would probably have been a valve back then.

  • @leandrolaporta2196
    @leandrolaporta2196 2 місяці тому

    Please do a full video of this!!❤❤❤

  • @kalhana1
    @kalhana1 2 місяці тому

    Circulators can also be used to connect Tx PA and Rx LNA to a single antenna

  • @pete3897
    @pete3897 2 місяці тому +3

    Circulators are also used to separate out RX and TX to/from a shared antenna system are they not?

  • @PaulKeppler
    @PaulKeppler 2 місяці тому

    Beautiful

  • @HectorLopez-jw2ke
    @HectorLopez-jw2ke 2 місяці тому +1

    The signal path trembles. More

  • @Mr.Unacceptable
    @Mr.Unacceptable 2 місяці тому +5

    Love to have a unit like this to fire up pirate TV. I live in the mountains and there is only one radio station before the internet. I have run a pirate radio for years as i can only broadcast to the valley. So nobody ever bothers me. Have an audience of about 200 at any time.

    • @echelonrank3927
      @echelonrank3927 2 місяці тому

      bad news, regular tv receivers are not built nearly as sensitive as radios. u will be lucky to get a few km clear range with this thing.
      i got 500m with a 7 watt test. that means 700 watts only gets u 5km. inverse square law. this is why this 300 watt thing is a only a preamp.
      also dont forget this is a class B linear design, so the power consumption can reach 1000 watts, its thousands of dollars per year in power bills.
      the bang per buck just isnt there.

    • @Mr.Unacceptable
      @Mr.Unacceptable 2 місяці тому

      @@echelonrank3927 That's not great. I only have a 5km by 15km area to cover.

    • @echelonrank3927
      @echelonrank3927 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Mr.Unacceptable its no loss, stick to radio, it keeps people free to do other things as they listen instead of getting them stuck to a screen like zombies.

    • @ljubomirculibrk4097
      @ljubomirculibrk4097 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Mr.Unacceptable Antenna whit field distribution as needed, yagi perhaps. Why waste power all ower...

  • @SupremeRuleroftheWorld
    @SupremeRuleroftheWorld 2 місяці тому +4

    so this box contains black magic.

  • @onesandzeros
    @onesandzeros 2 місяці тому +1

    Can't believe that transmitter tour video is 10 years old

    • @davidkilpatrick1640
      @davidkilpatrick1640 2 місяці тому +1

      Yikes!

    • @onesandzeros
      @onesandzeros 2 місяці тому

      @@davidkilpatrick1640 You were in it weren’t you? Thank you, it was very interesting. I have periodically googled waveguide ever since :). I hope all is well with you. Greetings from Pennsylvania.

  • @Opel_Guy
    @Opel_Guy 2 місяці тому

    We make some ridged coaxs where I work like this. There are some odd shaped one's!

  • @iancockett7591
    @iancockett7591 2 місяці тому +1

    I would steer clear of those RF transistors especially if any of the cases look cracked. Possible that they contain Beryllium oxide which is very nasty.

    • @echelonrank3927
      @echelonrank3927 2 місяці тому

      meh. i cracked some of those open. despite myths, beryllium oxide doesnt disintegrate easily into nasty dust, it just cracks in half.

  • @memejeff
    @memejeff 2 місяці тому

    We're in like flynn.

  • @muctop17
    @muctop17 2 місяці тому

    1:37 the coax connection to the BNC input inside look rather weird I think! What frequency? 300MHz?

  • @zaprodk
    @zaprodk 2 місяці тому +6

    I don't believe the circulator protects the output. What it does is re-direct reflections into a dummy load.

    • @echelonrank3927
      @echelonrank3927 2 місяці тому

      the circulators are used as power splitters and combiners

    • @cambridgemart2075
      @cambridgemart2075 День тому

      It does both, reflected power is sent to a load instead of causing damage to the output stage.

    • @cambridgemart2075
      @cambridgemart2075 День тому

      @@echelonrank3927 No, that isn't what circulators do.

    • @echelonrank3927
      @echelonrank3927 День тому

      @@cambridgemart2075 right, it even says combiner on the schematic because its not what they do.
      dont forget u just watched an RF video by a guy who keeps calling RF black magic and not a qualified RF engineer.

    • @cambridgemart2075
      @cambridgemart2075 21 годину тому

      @@echelonrank3927 I know, but I am an RF guy! It isn't possible to use a circulator as a combiner, but it can be part of a combiner, in fact they often are used on the inputs to combiners to prevent cross leakage.

  • @NiHaoMike64
    @NiHaoMike64 2 місяці тому +2

    Any idea if it could be modified/retuned for amateur radio use?

    • @dragonlard4595
      @dragonlard4595 2 місяці тому +1

      I think the Transistors could be used for 145MHz.

  • @volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
    @volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740 2 місяці тому

    A little 'Circilator'? You mean a little circus near a stargate? Nice.

  • @canaldopicco
    @canaldopicco 2 місяці тому

    Capacitor de poliéster no desacoplamento em circuito de VHF???? Como pode isso se eles não trabalham bem a partir dos 5MHz?

  • @sefarkas0
    @sefarkas0 2 місяці тому +1

    Schematics ?

  • @EastAngliaUK
    @EastAngliaUK 2 місяці тому +1

    defo a pice to hold on to. you could get a dummy load for it

    • @echelonrank3927
      @echelonrank3927 2 місяці тому

      i will never understand people transmitting into a dummy load

  • @pete3897
    @pete3897 2 місяці тому

    Moar pls

  • @WacKEDmaN
    @WacKEDmaN 2 місяці тому

    ...nice bit of gear....
    but...how is a Pre-Amp a "transmitter"... cmon Dave, youre better than that...

    • @barrieshepherd7694
      @barrieshepherd7694 Місяць тому

      If you put an antenna on the output, rather than connect it to the upstream RF amplifiers, it becomes a transmitter.

  • @eimparas
    @eimparas 2 місяці тому +1

    First !

  • @MattyEngland
    @MattyEngland 2 місяці тому +3

    Imagine the amount of fake news that went through that thing