"Maybe if we psychologically torture Wolverine we can make him do what we want. It didn't work the first 15 times but i have a good feeling about this one."
Even Logan's limited, but OP, healing factor can't heal the consciousness. Look at Magneto, lived through a Gen-o-cide, became a supremacist, when he and X could have changed the world from Day ONE! The Human psyche can only take so much before it breaks and molds itself to it's surroundings. It's not an exact thing, Magneto V. Logan is good example, Magneto lived a horrendous and beyond terrible thing only to advocate for that thing without dying, Logan, or Wolverine has arguably died multiple times, been tortured beyond comprehension and has healed from things not even a tardigan can, And it all takes a toll on Logan's Psyche, hence the constant memory loss. Eventually though, a break would happen. Logically speaking, if his OP healing factor didn't just crap out on him, Wolverine would eventually just become a living active trigger weapon. An Immortal NUKE without the fallout.
@@docHOLLAday53 I always find it interesting how what for some people is absurdly over the top cartoon villainy is for others their actual day-to-day real life. That so many people don't understand this really says a lot about how we are able to have so many who think things like the military or police are not necessary, or that criminality is just a an economic issue.
@@docHOLLAday53 propaganda by whites colonialists and their pet Indians that were parasitic to the country's resources...but, do tell us the ridiculous lies the racists colonialists were spreading
Writers are lazy, you can find plot holes in anything if you looked for it. Like how Cyber has adamantium skin even though he switched bodies. I know comic book writing isn't Shakespeare but come on.
@@2ndHandSmoker Worst thing about comics. It makes stories and characters inconsistent and lessens the ability for readers at least anyone with critical thinking ability to care.
Wolverine is more terrified of Proteus than this guy. was the only one wolverine ran away from and cried when he had to fight him. he was just a kid named kevin who had the most dangerous kind of reality warping.
You read Ultimate X-Men, huh? Proteus' weaknesses, his Kryptonite, was any kind of metal Wolverine and Colossus were their absolute edge against Proteus, but removing that limitation kinda made fighting him pointless, especially when Chuck was refusing any and all methods that included killing him
In the Claremont/Byrne Proteus arc, we can assess that the part of Wolvie scared to death by Kevin, is the animal, because of the messing with super-senses and instincts - his material world system of perception. It takes the rationnal mind of Logan to cool it off enough, to not fleeing like a wolf before a inflamed torch. With Cyber, it's the affective psychology of Logan's human mind that were tortured. Not the same plane at all. And that seems normal, since Logan cooled down his feral nature all those years with the X-men and normal peuples... allowing his old psychic scars to resurface and be dealt with, which his feral persona and introvert behaviour prevented him to do, as long as he wasn't ready.
@@daleford8621 Wolverine has adamantium bones. Big difference because that means all his skin, blood, and muscles are still purely organic and crushable. Anyways I think Syber got a new scientist to do it for him who we saw when the AI was talking about his heart monitor messing up and that guy probably did the experiment
@booderg3246 but then that still doesn't make sense on how he "broke" his arms. Just would of meant he crushed them. Very different things. But with Wolverine's healing factor, this would have been an inconvenience for him. Very painful but his body would recover very quickly. So not really worth a mention in the fight honestly
You just described 90% of Marvel/DC comics, writers just keep coming up with stupid back stories and revenge missions until it doesn't even make sense.
@@chafikjaaouan7347 Let me tell you the dark truth 1- *Batman defeats planet destroyer Hulk with Sleeping gas* 2- *Havok brain shots Planet destroyer Hulk into Banner* 3- *Dreadpool killed Planet destroyer Hulk and Punisher kills planet destroyer Hulk* 4- *Namor defeat Planet destroyer Hulk underwater* 5- *Top 10 characters planet destroyer Hulk can never defeat in comics*
@@-castradomis-1773It's not even that it gets rebooted, that would be a much better option as it let's established runs get a proper end and allows them to start anew. What Marvel does is they retcon shit from established stories while then still being connected to those stories so you get one big confusing convoluted timeline that makes 0 sense. All to appease their status quo lol.
@@pelican19so we’re delusional now ? Joker manipulated a man for three years making him forget his family left him making him so delusional that he was forced to kill his family literally check out the video posted before this one 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@d-_-bunknownassassin188 Joker definitely has some crazy evil stories in his many years, but as a lineup vs lineup Wolverine has the more vicious enemies.
The reason Cyber was killed wasn't Romulus. Genesis (Cable's adopted son from future) had become evil, came back in time to lead the Dark Raiders (inhumans and mutants who followed 'survival of the fittest') after Apocalypse was defeated by Stryfe, who was also later defeated by Cable but left the legacy virus, which killed mutants. Cyber was brought to the base was betrayed by the group. They unleashed bugs that ate all his organic parts, leaving his adamantium, which Genesis planned to bond to the semi-feral Wolverine (Magneto stripped him of adamantium). Storm and Cannonball burst in, with her evenly matched against Tempest when it came to wind, but her lightning took him out and cannonball was getting overwhelmed until his pleas reached logan, who was one of those fluid tanks, he woke up, adamantium shards flew out and he eventually slew Genesis.
So... we have an amazing soldier way too stupid to know who he's fighting for. I know, too good to be true. Logan is already an amazing soldier. Let's screw all that up by attempting to make him... wait for it... uncontrollable. Yes. Yes, make him worthless to us and anyone else.
Bro, I feel so bad for Milo. I work with the disabled and buddy didn't deserve to be used like that. He was just a big poor baby who didn't understand his strength and he was used by an irredeemable monster.
I can’t express this enough man, PLEASE don’t stop making these videos I love them and I showed them to my mom and there just so fun and entertaining man. From the bottom of my heart KEEP POSTING 🎉❤
The writers made that Silas burr was the third accomplice of William Burke and William hare in the West Port murders in Edinburgh in 1890s, these events actually occurred in real life and the third accomplice theory was is a really interesting one between criminologists, and it's cool that marvel made Silas burr participate secretly in a real life murder spree
Bull, he was so terrified of Proteus, that Cyclops had to whoop his ass to get him back in Wolverine best at what I do mode in the 1970s.... love that issue.
i honestly like this story, not every villain needs to have a reason to be evil. it’s no wonder that wolverine is scared of him because silas is so outrageously evil for no reason at all.
Im not even a marvel fan but Logan always has some of the damdest stories like really traumatic i almost want to say in all of fiction but hes probably top 10 in trageic heros 😢😢😓😓😓 great story though
I cant believe it took me decades to read manga and apreciate stories that were actually plausible with himan behavior and psychology, where marvel comics always felt like crazy people making irrational decisions no person would make ever
I remember reading this comic at the library! Was my first introduction to Daken, Cyber and Romulus! Romulus instantly became a fave just like when i saw H'el in DC
"Maybe if we psychologically torture Wolverine we can make him do what we want. It didn't work the first 15 times but i have a good feeling about this one."
@@BobTheBuilder294 “and if it doesn’t work we can always brainwash him and try again”
You know what they say "the 16th time is the charm"
Even Logan's limited, but OP, healing factor can't heal the consciousness. Look at Magneto, lived through a Gen-o-cide, became a supremacist, when he and X could have changed the world from Day ONE! The Human psyche can only take so much before it breaks and molds itself to it's surroundings. It's not an exact thing, Magneto V. Logan is good example, Magneto lived a horrendous and beyond terrible thing only to advocate for that thing without dying, Logan, or Wolverine has arguably died multiple times, been tortured beyond comprehension and has healed from things not even a tardigan can, And it all takes a toll on Logan's Psyche, hence the constant memory loss. Eventually though, a break would happen. Logically speaking, if his OP healing factor didn't just crap out on him, Wolverine would eventually just become a living active trigger weapon. An Immortal NUKE without the fallout.
@@LivingHe11 www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=do+i+have+alzheimer%27s
@@LivingHe11 I don’t think you said it enough😂
The biggest victim here was Milo poor guy didn’t deserve that
You should see how the hulk looks with this art style 😂🤢
Neither did Logan but I get what you mean
Why was he that strong too?
My question is what the hell has Milo’s parents been feeding him?
@@sergiodelrioreyes7655 He was born a mutant
The Boys comic starts to make sense with cartoonishly evil characters like Silas
Exactly my thoughts. He's the perfect mix of Soldier Boy and Butcher
Until you realize what the guy in the comics did compared to what Idi Amin did in real life is nothing.
@@docHOLLAday53 I always find it interesting how what for some people is absurdly over the top cartoon villainy is for others their actual day-to-day real life. That so many people don't understand this really says a lot about how we are able to have so many who think things like the military or police are not necessary, or that criminality is just a an economic issue.
@@docHOLLAday53 propaganda by whites colonialists and their pet Indians that were parasitic to the country's resources...but, do tell us the ridiculous lies the racists colonialists were spreading
This is just real life union busting shit
You know the judge has made up his mind when he breaks the gavel
It's as if multiple people on drugs took turns writing a story. So convoluted and confusing.
Just insane. Wikipedia pages have been around for a very long time. There's no excuse.
That's the beauty of comics
So in otherwords, an average comicbook arc
Writers are lazy, you can find plot holes in anything if you looked for it. Like how Cyber has adamantium skin even though he switched bodies. I know comic book writing isn't Shakespeare but come on.
@@2ndHandSmoker Worst thing about comics. It makes stories and characters inconsistent and lessens the ability for readers at least anyone with critical thinking ability to care.
Thank you Morgan Freeman for narrating this video
In what insane world, is THAT Sabertooth? like bro, thats Tom Petty.
U should see hulk in that art style😂🤢
Steve Dillon can only draw ONE face.
1912 Sabertooth* his mutation fluctuates
@@jaydawg7 Cut the crap, it's the artstyle.
@gabrielfmm5465 a little of this, a little of that 🤣
I'm so happy Morgan Freeman is narrating again😂
OK I thought I was the only one who hears this
It's not him?
@@jtotheunk its an A.I. voice
Wolverine: ”I don’t fear anyone, bub. However, that man... he haunts me.”
nice reference brother.
He.s gay
@@KaliU-ix2kf whered that come from???
@@Volti-Vagra TF2 Heavy reference in meet the pyro
I get an erection everytime TF2 is mentioned.
nah ofc the guy wolverine fears is buddies with sabertooth
Fr saber tooth is to damn fucked up the birthday ritual is crazy
no cyber. he doesn't fear sabertooth
@@TORQ111 lol
@@unclejesse22546 huh
@@HNry-OG I said it in plain English
Wolverine is more terrified of Proteus than this guy. was the only one wolverine ran away from and cried when he had to fight him. he was just a kid named kevin who had the most dangerous kind of reality warping.
You read Ultimate X-Men, huh?
Proteus' weaknesses, his Kryptonite, was any kind of metal
Wolverine and Colossus were their absolute edge against Proteus, but removing that limitation kinda made fighting him pointless, especially when Chuck was refusing any and all methods that included killing him
In the Claremont/Byrne Proteus arc, we can assess that the part of Wolvie scared to death by Kevin, is the animal, because of the messing with super-senses and instincts - his material world system of perception. It takes the rationnal mind of Logan to cool it off enough, to not fleeing like a wolf before a inflamed torch.
With Cyber, it's the affective psychology of Logan's human mind that were tortured. Not the same plane at all. And that seems normal, since Logan cooled down his feral nature all those years with the X-men and normal peuples... allowing his old psychic scars to resurface and be dealt with, which his feral persona and introvert behaviour prevented him to do, as long as he wasn't ready.
That's right my friend.
@@axelwulf6220that was ultimate marvel, the biggest weakness of Proteus was that he would burnout the bodies
Wait, how did he get the adamantium body again after reincarnating? I thought the guy who gave it to him turned against him
Comic book plot armor at it's finest.
The tinkerer
Then on top of that, he broke Wolverine's arms that are also coated in adamantium.
@@daleford8621 Wolverine has adamantium bones. Big difference because that means all his skin, blood, and muscles are still purely organic and crushable. Anyways I think Syber got a new scientist to do it for him who we saw when the AI was talking about his heart monitor messing up and that guy probably did the experiment
@booderg3246 but then that still doesn't make sense on how he "broke" his arms. Just would of meant he crushed them. Very different things. But with Wolverine's healing factor, this would have been an inconvenience for him. Very painful but his body would recover very quickly. So not really worth a mention in the fight honestly
What a confusing, convoluted story.
You just described 90% of Marvel/DC comics, writers just keep coming up with stupid back stories and revenge missions until it doesn't even make sense.
@@James_Byron yeah but this one is the pinnacle of stupid, how stupidly underpowered is wolverine and how stupid in general is he acting lol
@@chafikjaaouan7347 Let me tell you the dark truth 1- *Batman defeats planet destroyer Hulk with Sleeping gas*
2- *Havok brain shots Planet destroyer Hulk into Banner*
3- *Dreadpool killed Planet destroyer Hulk and Punisher kills planet destroyer Hulk*
4- *Namor defeat Planet destroyer Hulk underwater*
5- *Top 10 characters planet destroyer Hulk can never defeat in comics*
@@-castradomis-1773It's not even that it gets rebooted, that would be a much better option as it let's established runs get a proper end and allows them to start anew.
What Marvel does is they retcon shit from established stories while then still being connected to those stories so you get one big confusing convoluted timeline that makes 0 sense. All to appease their status quo lol.
y’all must not like comic books…
Wolverine's rogue gallery is so over the top with super killers it makes Batman's look like an Archie comic.
I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. Even Joker isn't this bad.
@@pelican19so we’re delusional now ? Joker manipulated a man for three years making him forget his family left him making him so delusional that he was forced to kill his family literally check out the video posted before this one 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well he debuted to fight the Hulk, so…
@@d-_-bunknownassassin188 Joker definitely has some crazy evil stories in his many years, but as a lineup vs lineup Wolverine has the more vicious enemies.
Good point. I think Marvel tries too hard to make Logan a bad ass. It's not necessary the guy is a natural born killer
Wolverine doesn't fear him. Wolverine fears himself *around* the guy. Let's not get it twisted.
Nope. Wolverine fears him
@@MAYANKSAXENA-ms1nshe fears you
@@dude9318 Oh okay 🐰
I feel bad for the milo guy
and he's technically still a child with an adult body.
The reason Cyber was killed wasn't Romulus. Genesis (Cable's adopted son from future) had become evil, came back in time to lead the Dark Raiders (inhumans and mutants who followed 'survival of the fittest') after Apocalypse was defeated by Stryfe, who was also later defeated by Cable but left the legacy virus, which killed mutants. Cyber was brought to the base was betrayed by the group. They unleashed bugs that ate all his organic parts, leaving his adamantium, which Genesis planned to bond to the semi-feral Wolverine (Magneto stripped him of adamantium). Storm and Cannonball burst in, with her evenly matched against Tempest when it came to wind, but her lightning took him out and cannonball was getting overwhelmed until his pleas reached logan, who was one of those fluid tanks, he woke up, adamantium shards flew out and he eventually slew Genesis.
Exactly!!! I read that story!
how are you not top comment
exactly! First time they mentioned Cyber in this video I was thinking "didn't he get eaten?"
Wat?
6:11 he took over a new body and regrew his adamantium skin? How did he get that back?
So... we have an amazing soldier way too stupid to know who he's fighting for.
I know, too good to be true.
Logan is already an amazing soldier.
Let's screw all that up by attempting to make him... wait for it... uncontrollable.
Yes. Yes, make him worthless to us and anyone else.
Bro, I feel so bad for Milo. I work with the disabled and buddy didn't deserve to be used like that. He was just a big poor baby who didn't understand his strength and he was used by an irredeemable monster.
I can’t express this enough man, PLEASE don’t stop making these videos I love them and I showed them to my mom and there just so fun and entertaining man. From the bottom of my heart KEEP POSTING 🎉❤
Silas was about that life.
Had that dog in him😊
If wolverine gets a solo movie in the MCU cyber should be the main villain
Cyber over Omega Red?
@@darrenkey207 maybe they Can team up or omega red could be the villain of the first film and cyber is in the sequel
@@darrenkey207 Cyber was definitely that dude.
Wouldn’t it be Romulus
@@the_real_tay_loud2072 true
YES! Cyber! I remember when Magneto pulled all the adamantium off Logan and Cyber found out... so good.
Deadpool: "just cleaning the timeline~"
Bro, memory loss may as well be one of Logan's super powers.
This was amazing and such a great flow.
Damn. This is the best UA-cam comic telling channel ive seen. Awesome voice cast. 👍 new subscriber today
how can he break his arms logans bones are adamantium
bro never stop making these videos theyre such high quality and they are so enjoyable to watch
i can definitely see you reaching 1m on UA-cam soon
felt illegal to be this fast
Im gonna touch you
Lol
So how did he get the adamantium skin the second time? Not exactly something you just pick up at a hardware store.
Great question
He sole liquid adamantium from a UN research facility and had the Tinkerer coat his body in it before he ambushed Logan
I love your editing. Keep up the good work !
The writers made that Silas burr was the third accomplice of William Burke and William hare in the West Port murders in Edinburgh in 1890s, these events actually occurred in real life and the third accomplice theory was is a really interesting one between criminologists, and it's cool that marvel made Silas burr participate secretly in a real life murder spree
That was good! I love your channel, please keep this going.
For those who don't know, this is actually accurate to the kind of people the Pinkertons actually were
Bullshit. Save your propaganda.
@@gimmethepinkelephant3685Pinker-tons we’re basically outlaws dude 🙄
@@gimmethepinkelephant3685they don’t know you lil bro💀
Wolverine describing Sylas: he has no rules, no boundaries. He isn't loyal to a country, a flag or any set of ideals.
Bull, he was so terrified of Proteus, that Cyclops had to whoop his ass to get him back in Wolverine best at what I do mode in the 1970s.... love that issue.
Sam Kieth! Such an amazing artist.
Wouldn't Magneto's ability to rip out his adamantium scare him?
clearly not since wolverine jumps at him every single time xD
You sir have the perfect voice for this.
i honestly like this story, not every villain needs to have a reason to be evil. it’s no wonder that wolverine is scared of him because silas is so outrageously evil for no reason at all.
6:29 How could he break wolverine’s arms, they are made of adamantium. Cyber is strong enough to break adamantium?
Plot Strength.
"Well, how evil is Silas?"
"He was a Pinkerton."
"Ah, say no more."
Im not even a marvel fan but Logan always has some of the damdest stories like really traumatic i almost want to say in all of fiction but hes probably top 10 in trageic heros 😢😢😓😓😓 great story though
Geez.... That was brutal! Poor Logan...
I love your videos, keep it up! 🔥🔥🔥
I'm really impressed you got Morgan Freeman narrating.
Art of the late Steve Dillon. I will bet the writer were Garth Ennis.
So Silas Burr is a combination of The Jokers insanity & Carnage ruthlessness
I always thought it was Sabertooth...but the Morgan Freeman like comic narration. I can dig it.
Wolverine is legendary character❤️
So is your mom, OOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
@@Romo69 She is the best bicycle and everyone has had a turn!
Top notch product here
As soon as you said Romulus I knew it was gonna get wild lmao
The artwork for when Wolverine is talking to the woman about his past is some of my favorite.
Mean while saber tooth killing everyone wolverine loves on his birthdays "am I a joke"
I cant believe it took me decades to read manga and apreciate stories that were actually plausible with himan behavior and psychology, where marvel comics always felt like crazy people making irrational decisions no person would make ever
The Problems with Western Comics, too many people writing on one damn character. 😭
this was actually hella entertaining
These voice overs are great...After cominstorian deminise, you're videos has helped me get back in comics again.. thanks and never stop uploading
Wow...this would be an amazing movie series.
4:44 I had this edition on paper in the 90's
Feeling nostalgic now.
I’m old enough to remember when Silus started as a grave robber.
Continuous effort, not strength or intelligence is the key to unlocking our potential.
This guy doesn't seem nearly as psycho and scary as Sabertooth.
Wisdom is knowing what to do next; Skill is knowing how ot do it, and Virtue is doing it.
My man 👍
I remember reading this comic at the library! Was my first introduction to Daken, Cyber and Romulus! Romulus instantly became a fave just like when i saw H'el in DC
Awesome 😎😎👍
masterpiece video
In the comic everyone has someone to be genuinely afraid of, Hulk is afraid of his dad, Wolverine fears Silas.
2010 was a edge year for comics
yet they age like wine 🍷
This guy would feel at home in a Garth Ennis story.
Poor milo, kid didn't deserve it
Edit: damn, 115 likes? I've never gotten that many, thank y'all so much
2nd edit: Jeez 154?!
3rd edit: 164?!
4th edit: wow 224! Thank you all! :D
Wow, what will you now do with all these Likes? omg youre so famous 🥳
I don't know just yet
Lol you gotta be in middle school
Who? Me?
@@Bearlymanyt yes you
The early MCP story is fraking awesome.
Sirus possessing Milo was so sad to me
What a Story 👏🙌
2:15 what comic is this from? i love the artstyle
Issue 3# has pili wars
Unbreakable adamantium ,proceeds to break Logans arms.
James is NOT afraid of Silas.
He would’ve made a great enemy of the punisher
The Pinkertons?! He killed the vanderlinde gang!?
Pinkerton? Does he have beef with the van van linde?
How the fuck did this mf broke both Wolverine arms 💀
He didn't have adamantium then
You guys know that the bones still have joint right?
Love Steve Dillon art.
I knew he was pure evil the moment you said he was a pinkerton.
Nice to see art by Steve Dillon and Sam Keith in the one video,
How have i never heard of this extremely pivotal villain to wolverine
It was genesis who requested to kill cyber and take his adamantium to give back to wolverine.
Daken is a damn snake😭 how you gonna leave your dad after he saves your life
“Pinkerton National Detective Agency” made me yell out MICAH BELL!
Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.
Cyber was one of my favorite villains.
I love this story; I think I might have a new favorite villain. Sabretooth was already 1 of my favorite Xmen villains.
God bless Morgan Freeman ❤🎉
Wolverine is terrified of Proteus, so there is at least 2 people he fears.
This artstyle reminds me a lot about Punisher's "weclome back frank" arc. Same artists i guess.
The Marvel version of Jax is just ruthless and brutal
Pinkertons? With agent milton? DUUUTCHHH THERES PINKERTONS!!
I remember getting these comics in the mail when I was a kid
How did he regain his metal skin after the possession?