Great to see the line being rebuilt, and great drone shots! Would love to see passenger trains run on it. It could have potential to form part of a Limerick commuter network.
The layout will be decided at the very end by the Port. Likewise, don't expect any announcements by Irish Rail on what and for who they'll be carrying. That will likely only happen when the freight is in active service, if at all, and both parties would have to agree to disclose. This is a commercial operation, not a PSO passenger service. Irish Rail don't have to disclose commercially sensitive contracts. Despite what the armchair idiots think; they're not stupid.
@@spacetweek I don't think it's the government that will be finding customers for the line but rather the Shannon Foynes Port Company in conjunction with Iarnród Éireann. That's how it happens today, except that it's currently between the Port Company (and the ship owners) and road hauliers.
Thank you so much for your generous support . As stated by others , no confirmed customers. The Government is working on the principle " Build it , and they will come"
I don't think the traffic it will see will ever justify a double line , not to mention passing loops at the stations. They're is no talk of passenger services , just freight only. Also the N69 overpass and the single track bridges prevent double tracking .
It will be container traffic and possibly bulk. The Port Masterplan is to have Neo-Panamax container ships on the East Jetty. Look up the 2041 Masterplan for the Port, but make sure it's the 2022 Review version, rather than the outdated one from 2013. There are too many critics giving opinions that they don't have a clue about. These same people would be the first to complain if these things weren't planned.
It's for loading the rails onto the little train that carries them to the workmen at each end of the line once the sleepers are layed for track formation
@@dronehawk Yep, that's right DH, though I wonder what will become of that hard once those cranes are removed when the line's finished Do you have any ideas on that too DH?
Do you know if there more plans to make this into a passenger route too? the original idea was for passengers but to me it seems they sold it to everyone as a passenger route then made it freight witch is horrible considering the amount of rail links we could get from this i really hope even a lightrail is established
@@Flying_Shamrock "anything that would help us" Freight rail traffic is important in helping us, as a nation, to reduce road congestion and pollution as well as reducing injuries and fatalities on the road network.
@@arnomrnym6329 It was originally back whhen it was open calling at patrickswell kilgobin adare askeaton and foynes if the open the cement spur it could also service raheen and doradoyle with a station at the industrial park and or church or crescent shopping centre
@@dronehawk that line was lifted if i remeber in 1978? i say a cab ride in foynes and the line was overgrown someone said the following year it was lifted
I read that the port is classed as "deep-sea" and apparently all EU deep-sea ports are soon going to be required to have a rail link as part of some directive or other, so I believe that is what spurred the project on. Although Arklow also has a deep sea port and no way of making a rail link to it so I don't actually know if this is accurate!
Agreed there doesn't seem to be anything by the way of sidings, rail access to the docks etc. And there doesn't seem to be room for any of them either??
found this in the Foynes Port Strategic Report so maybe it wil happen in time New rail sidings at the Port for freight will make cargo movements to and from rail cars competitive for medium and longer haul routes. This includes bulk solid cargo, break bulk, and containers. There is potential at the port to re-introduce the branch lines running parallel to the quay and develop a rail freight centre located within the port estate
Yes it's accurate, Ringaskiddy Cork is also deep sea but the directive from the EU only calls for rail links to be established to these ports only where it is feasible to do so .
There's a stronger argument for the likes of spain to do so with the french border and standard gauge AVE lines. We are an island with no border requiring gauge change. It would make a wider range of future rolling stock available due to the more popular guage but that's about it and it would be expensive and disruptive to do. Additionally while in the middle of the gauge and fleet changing role out, there would be reduced flexibility and resilience in the network as a train cant serve as a replacement if its a different gauge than the broken down train to be replaced.
They will offload containers from a ship at Foynes, put them onto a train and take them to Dublin. The ship will then sail to Dublin, where the containers will be put back on the ship and returned to Foynes by sea, where the whole process will be repeated!
@@dronehawk When the rail sidings are configured and built within the estate of the Shanon Foynes Port Company, then we can expect to see the emergence of systems to transfer freight from ship to rail. Making such ship to rail transfers was feasible in the previous incarnation of the Foynes railway and there isn’t, at this stage, a reason to believe that it won’t be feasible in the future. There are things yet to be done in this project, including, as has been pointed out before in the comments to your videos, the provision of suitable rail freight rolling stock for the cargos on offer.
Impressive progress on this forward thinking project. Let's hope the sceptics are proved wrong by this freight link.
Wow, a fantastic achievement, and an even bigger achievement to those men who constructed the railway with picks and shovels in the 1800s.
brilliant drone job. Super project, Thank you for sharing
Your welcome
Great to see the line being rebuilt, and great drone shots!
Would love to see passenger trains run on it. It could have potential to form part of a Limerick commuter network.
Great to see how much progress has been made, thanks very much for bringing this to us all 👍
Great to work on the ground to get itfinished looking Forward to finish the line
Love seeing this being build. Thanks again for making this video.
Your welcome
Mr. Eamon Ryan, Green minister for whatever, wants this project and that’s good enough for me. 😳
Great to see. I imagine it will be a lovely line to drive when it's in service.
Thanks for this update!
Great video very interesting, thanks for your time and hard work.
Well done boys, you're doing great! Keep going! 💯
Excellent footage as usual. I look forward to the Adare bypass update.
Coming next week ! If I spend anymore time editing on the pc i'll be divorced
Looking forward to it.
@@BC-jh6ln just as long as it is paving way for more train tracks in the area that could be returning possibly & new ones too possibly
Great footage. Thanks
Very enjoyable video! Great production quality!
A very picturesque “new” line! 📸
Thanks!
Many thanks
Excellent
Very interesting.... Fair play
Thanks for the video
Thanks for the update, let's keep our boys at Irish Rail going at the line reopening!!💯
Much appreciated
At this rate of progress the Foynes line will be making profit before HS2 does
It’s great to see the progress being made, but I don’t see any connection to the port? How will you unload a ship onto a train on this railway line?
That's what we are all wondering.
They will find a way, they will because they will need to@@dronehawk
The layout will be decided at the very end by the Port.
Likewise, don't expect any announcements by Irish Rail on what and for who they'll be carrying. That will likely only happen when the freight is in active service, if at all, and both parties would have to agree to disclose. This is a commercial operation, not a PSO passenger service. Irish Rail don't have to disclose commercially sensitive contracts. Despite what the armchair idiots think; they're not stupid.
Thanks! I love to see this line reactivated. Are there any projections as to how many trains per day or week it might have when fully up and running?
There are as of yet no guaranteed customers for this freight line, the government has left that to the end.
@@spacetweek I don't think it's the government that will be finding customers for the line but rather the Shannon Foynes Port Company in conjunction with Iarnród Éireann. That's how it happens today, except that it's currently between the Port Company (and the ship owners) and road hauliers.
Thank you so much for your generous support . As stated by others , no confirmed customers. The Government is working on the principle " Build it , and they will come"
was this originally a single track line?
Yes always , although the rail spur to Irish cement ran alongside for about 5 miles on the way out of Limerick
Great video 👌🏻😍 nice update like BUT COULD or should it have been into a double line railway??
I don't think the traffic it will see will ever justify a double line , not to mention passing loops at the stations. They're is no talk of passenger services , just freight only. Also the N69 overpass and the single track bridges prevent double tracking .
Does anyone know what kind of freight will be on this line? I'm guessing liners to Waterford and Dublin?
No , nobody knows . And It won't be container traffic as Foynes doesn't have Gantry Cranes .
It will be container traffic and possibly bulk. The Port Masterplan is to have Neo-Panamax container ships on the East Jetty. Look up the 2041 Masterplan for the Port, but make sure it's the 2022 Review version, rather than the outdated one from 2013.
There are too many critics giving opinions that they don't have a clue about. These same people would be the first to complain if these things weren't planned.
Any idea what the point at 7:11 is for?
It's for loading the rails onto the little train that carries them to the workmen at each end of the line once the sleepers are layed for track formation
@@tomfitzpatrick7335 cheers
As Tom said , it's temporary and will be removed when the track works done
@@dronehawk Yep, that's right DH, though I wonder what will become of that hard once those cranes are removed when the line's finished
Do you have any ideas on that too DH?
Any chance of following the old north Kerry route in your unique style?
Maybe at some stage . Would like to do Mallow to Dungarvan one first , before that gets the dreaded greenway treatment
@@dronehawk greenways are very popular and successful in Ireland.
@@spacetweek Not if you want to run trains
@@davidfgeraghtyit’s not a contest. Let’s have trains on new straight alignments and turn old dead railways into cycleways
Do you know if there more plans to make this into a passenger route too? the original idea was for passengers but to me it seems they sold it to everyone as a passenger route then made it freight witch is horrible considering the amount of rail links we could get from this i really hope even a lightrail is established
No , there are zero plans for passenger services , and the line signalling is being set up to reflect that.
@@dronehawk yeah i guessed should have known are money wasn't going into anything that would help us we could have a really good lightrail set up
@@Flying_Shamrock "anything that would help us" Freight rail traffic is important in helping us, as a nation, to reduce road congestion and pollution as well as reducing injuries and fatalities on the road network.
Nice flight. But it took me a while to figure out, where it is located. More info would be great. 😉
Will this be freight only?
Yes, freight only.
@@odunadhaigh Hm, is that smart?🤔Looks like a beautiful train ride. 😉
@@arnomrnym6329 It was originally back whhen it was open calling at patrickswell kilgobin adare askeaton and foynes if the open the cement spur it could also service raheen and doradoyle with a station at the industrial park and or church or crescent shopping centre
@@Flying_Shamrock While your at it reopen the north Kerry line at Ballingarane Station and you could service Rathkeale too.
@@dronehawk that line was lifted if i remeber in 1978? i say a cab ride in foynes and the line was overgrown someone said the following year it was lifted
Interesting project , but what is it for , there doesn’t seem to be anything in Foynes worth the journey ….
I read that the port is classed as "deep-sea" and apparently all EU deep-sea ports are soon going to be required to have a rail link as part of some directive or other, so I believe that is what spurred the project on. Although Arklow also has a deep sea port and no way of making a rail link to it so I don't actually know if this is accurate!
Agreed there doesn't seem to be anything by the way of sidings, rail access to the docks etc. And there doesn't seem to be room for any of them either??
found this in the Foynes Port Strategic Report so maybe it wil happen in time
New rail sidings at the Port for freight will
make cargo movements to and from rail
cars competitive for medium and longer
haul routes. This includes bulk solid cargo,
break bulk, and containers. There is
potential at the port to re-introduce the
branch lines running parallel to the quay
and develop a rail freight centre located
within the port estate
Yes it's accurate, Ringaskiddy Cork is also deep sea but the directive from the EU only calls for rail links to be established to these ports only where it is feasible to do so .
@@Almex228 it's a pure waste of money will not do the business Ireland to small for rail
Should be reopened on time for Easter in 2025.
Yes but reopened for what?
Good to see that the Neanderthals still walk amongst us - judging from some of the comments, 😄
Ireland needs to change its rail guage to standard European rail
There's a stronger argument for the likes of spain to do so with the french border and standard gauge AVE lines. We are an island with no border requiring gauge change. It would make a wider range of future rolling stock available due to the more popular guage but that's about it and it would be expensive and disruptive to do. Additionally while in the middle of the gauge and fleet changing role out, there would be reduced flexibility and resilience in the network as a train cant serve as a replacement if its a different gauge than the broken down train to be replaced.
When it's finished it can be rented to the RPSI so they can run excursions for the public to see where all their taxes are spent!
Immigrant city being built, need railway to get em there.
Some waste of money it won't be used
They will offload containers from a ship at Foynes, put them onto a train and take them to Dublin. The ship will then sail to Dublin, where the containers will be put back on the ship and returned to Foynes by sea, where the whole process will be repeated!
@@andrewhotston983 🤣
@@andrewhotston983 Where's the container Crane in Foynes ? Even that plan isnt feasible
@@dronehawk Dummy containers made of polystyrene. Easily handled by a couple of guys with wheelbarrows and a plank.
@@dronehawk When the rail sidings are configured and built within the estate of the Shanon Foynes Port Company, then we can expect to see the emergence of systems to transfer freight from ship to rail. Making such ship to rail transfers was feasible in the previous incarnation of the Foynes railway and there isn’t, at this stage, a reason to believe that it won’t be feasible in the future.
There are things yet to be done in this project, including, as has been pointed out before in the comments to your videos, the provision of suitable rail freight rolling stock for the cargos on offer.