Ned Stark VS Jaime Lannister Sword Fight Review Game of Thrones!
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Ned Stark and Jamie Lannister's Game of Thrones Season 1 legendary sword fight - FIGHT REVIEW! With Matt Easton of Schola Gladiatoria.
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"It will not make a schwing when Jamie pulls it out."
Seriously, how does this man keep a straight face on his own channel?
Matt's true superpower is throwing outrageous innuendo completely deadpan.
As Cersei will attest, Jamie never pulls out.
Cant schwing if you leave it in ah sis!
He can even say sentences like "stiffness aids penetration" and "i love the butt" with a straight face
Not to mention the "you know how we love penetrating power on this channel"
Plot armor, the only armor that works.
@@jameshedrick4490 He wasn't playing belegarth
I noticed in the later seasons that characters with armor were more likely to die than those without or less armor. The main characters are all allergic to helmets for some reason, but they don't get head injuries.
@@jameshedrick4490 because it was the plot blade - the only thing that cuts through the plot armor
The only time physical armor works in GOT is when the wearer has recently stated how armor works (Jorah vs. Drogo's bloodrider, Hound taunting Arya). If Ned's soldiers would have chanted in unison about the benefits of armor before the Lannister soldiers threw their spears, they would have been safe.
Much stronger than even Euron’s legendary Valerian steel armour 🤣
This dramatic and fairly well-choreographed fight is doing a wonderful job of setting up Jaime's final battle, Jaime vs falling rocks.
the most epic game of rock paper scissors ever imagined. conclusion, cersei and jaime would still be alive if they just had a piece of paper.
@@tommerker8063 or if they just stood two feet to the left 😆
@@opus5770 you can't move two feet to the side in rock paper scissors though. their commitement to the game was obviously stronger tahn their will to survive
@@tommerker8063 "When you play the game, you either win or you die" -cersei
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 so rock paper shotgun it is ;)
He didn't die from the sword - he died from shame for leaving himself so open.
🤣
@@osirisatot19 hollywood armor doesn't even function properly, so it's nonetheless the same.
Two options:
1. half circle of armed soldiers
2. a wall and two horses chillin
Ned: I need to keep an eye on that aggressive wall or it will stab me i the back.
"Just kill me already"
@@baumkuchen6543 during the fight, Jamie and Ned switch sides to give the back to the wall again you need to go through Jamie …
I thought this was one of the better fights of GoT. Also Jorah's duel with one of Khal Drogo's bloodriders. The one and only time plate armor actually worked. Do you think you can review that one Matt? It's also from season one.
Gumaro R. Villamil the Jorah fight was pretty cool, definitely two of my favorites.
Agreed love the fight and the armor actually works! Lol
The actor playing Jorah seems to one of the very few who are competent enough to wield a weapon.
This fight was atrocious a smost fights are in Game of Thrones.
No farther, sword-lord!
"You weapon is not attached to your hip."
Well, maybe yours isn´t...
Hah
I think you're misreading Jaime's motivations in the end of this scene. I don't think he's motivated by any sense of honor; I think he's motivated by pride. Ned Stark is believed to have defeated Arthur Dayne in combat, and largely on that basis is regarded as an excellent swordsman. I think Jaime wants the fame and notoriety of defeating one-on-one the man who beat Arthur Dayne.
After all, consider Jaime's actions leading up to and following this fight. Was it honorable to bushwack Ned and his men in King's Landing with a superior force in revenge for Tyrion's arrest? Was it honorable for Jaime to then flee the city to escape the consequences of his actions? I think these are clearly not honorable actions, but they are consistent with the actions of man with a stung sense of family pride.
Pride is nothing if not a Lannister trait. Remember, "A Lannister Always Pays His Debts", and Cersei and Tywin certainly exhibit plenty of pride. When Jaime is with them, he acts like a Lannister in making immoral actions with rotten motivations. It's only while he's spending time with Brienne -- a person who very earnestly believes in knightly ideals and a sense of honor -- that he rediscovers his own honor. With the Lannisters he's a villain; away from their influence he can become something better.
Jaime's relaxed, sneering demeanor in this fight can certainly be viewed as prideful.
Beat me to it. Although I think his attitude makes it clear the he suspects Ned isn't really that good. I always thought a huge part of his motivation was to expose him as a fraud so he could continue to think of Arthur Dayne as the best.
Jaime already lives in infamy for stabbing the unarmed King Aerys in the back during the Sack of King's Landing - in fact, it was Ned Stark who publicized Jaime's deed and earned him the nickname "Kingslayer." We don't know at this point in the show that Jaime had the best possible reason for killing the Mad King, and feels unjustly punished for it. Jaime is the kind of guy who will kill someone in cold blood, but only "for love." Killing the Mad King saved the city; killing his cousin Alton helped him escape prison. So when Jaime speaks with Tywin at the Lannister camp, I think he's being earnest earnest about wanting to do the right thing. He didn't want to kill Ned while he was helpless, because it would make him a murderer - unlike killing his king and his cousin, which he thinks of as heroic sacrifices. But Tywin thinks of Jaime the way most of Westeros does, as a back-stabbing opportunist - so Tywin thinks he was just being vain and image-conscious.
@El Bearsidente , killing Aerys was the right thing to do, but I don't think it necessarily indicates adherence to a code of honor.
Jaime also bears a grudge against Ned (at least in the books, can't quite remember for sure in the show) for what he perceives as a judgmental, holier-than-thou personality from Ned. Ned looked down upon his killing of Aerys and refused to consider whether or not Jaime had any valid justification for betraying his oaths. Jaime also implicitly believes Ned to be a hypocrite due to Ned allegedly also being an oathbreaker, having fathered Jon Snow as far as anybody was aware. He likely wanted to apprehend or kill Ned himself, rather than his men take the credit.
It's interesting that that there are so many differing opinions of Jaime's reaction to Ned getting stabbed through the leg. I always put it down to him being frustrated, as he was enjoying the rare challenge of a skilled foe. Ned was doing ok up to that point, but Jaime was mostly in control and likely to win, though not without his own skill being tested.
The last standoff by Conan the Barbarian and his friends against Thulsa Doom and his minions would be a fun clip for Matt to review.
fuferito what’s good in that is the spikes they set up to negate the horses. It’s the simple things that work best lol
Mullets and warhammers
I'd watch a full-length commentary of the entire movie to be honest!
@@Phlack,
The orgy scene with the human meat cauldron would be appropriately quiet for Matt, till they start fighting again.
@@JeffPenaify,
Our childhood video game arcade hit, Golden Axe took tons of sound bites off that movie.
I would like to see you take on Syrio Forel’s stuff in Game of Thrones here.
I'd like to see that too. It's a shame we never found out what happened to Syrio.
@@perfectibility999 Syrio's dead, and Meryn Trant's not. Because Trant had armour. And a big f**king sword.
Braavosi Water Dancing is something akin to smallsword fencing. Great for gentlemanly duels or the backstreets of a city, but at a severe disadvantage on the battlefield against armoured warriors.
He might nor be in the books for all we know😊
@@perfectibility999 One theory is that syrio is the faceless man, would explain that he was imprisoned when defeated. He was keeping a eye on his future investment,guiding her towards her fate.
The count of monte Cristo had a pretty good fight. It even had disarms.
Stormie Wutzke yeah that was a class fight
1934 or 2002?
Which version ?...
@@quaesitrix881 2002, the finale. And when Edmon is captured early on in the movie.
Don't get me wrong, the story in the book is much more sophisticated, but the 2002 movie told a good story in its own right.
@Kali Southpaw and how did you find out my sandwich making skills?😜
With regard to the dagger through the brain, ignoring that we don't really know if he's really still conscious or if this is kind of the final death throes of his synapses, there are cases of people in modern times being stabbed or otherwise impaled through the brain by foreign objects who not only didn't lose consciousness or who regained consciousness while the object was still embedded, but also who have recovered from such injuries with minimal loss of brain function (granted this isn't likely to happen without modern medicine and swift treatment). So the idea that someone could be stabbed in the brain and not immediately lose consciousness or die isn't too crazy. Particularly if we're talking something relatively thin and sharp like a dagger. I'm not going to say someone could definitely stay conscious or take more than several seconds to die based on the injury in the clip because I'm not a doctor and which part of the brain gets skewered matters a lot and I doubt the people working on the show asked any neurologists if the path the blade took could plausibly leave someone alive for a few seconds. But is the overall idea plausible? Yeah actually, it's surprisingly plausible. Damaging the brain isn't always the instant death sentence movies and video games would usually like us to believe.
I had a coworker who got shot twice in the top of the head with a framing nailgun. 4 inch nails right through the crown area. Survived with no disabilities, just occasional headaches. Pretty crazy stuff. I though i was driving a dead man to the hospital.
Pheneas Gage: He was a railroad foreman in 1848, and had a long tamping rod go right through his brain. He survived and recovered. However, people noticed his entire character changed. That started the idea that changing the brain could change behavior. Effectively, although Gage recovered, he was lobotomized. Interesting story you should look up.
As far as I know, those cases where people have survived without much or any lasting effects, it's mostly been rare occasions where the implement has missed the vital parts and gone in between the two halves of the brain. A stab through the eye with a quite wide dagger would probably kill a man within seconds, especially since the stab is so deep that it came out through the back of the skull.
@Caramel Johnson I think you're being way too hard on the fight choreographers. Some of them suck, yeah, but their main priorities are to a) get exciting footage that the directors can use for storytelling, and b) keep the actors safe while making it look like they're trying to kill each other. Film has a lot of constraints as a medium, and achieving perfect realism for any sort of situation is damn near impossible. They're not idiots who don't understand basic physics.
@@niall_sanderson Absolutely. When I'm watching a work of fiction, I want to be entertained and the same goes for 99.9% of the audience. Apart from the points you mentioned, there is also the issue of budget.
If the actors or stunt doubles move too much at the wrong time that means that a larger part of the set has to be lit and that the camera's have to be moved. Making absolutely clear to the audience knows what is going on without using multiple camera angles is also a cost saving measure. A spear going through a body that is being filmed from the side for example, is easy to add in post and conveys to the audience that somebody has been killed.
12:16: Having the Lannister guard stab Ned in the leg WHILE they were doing the Movie Blade to Blade Push thing would've been far better. Having the shot where Ned steps back and does nothing just kinda breaks the flow. Have the close up on Ned's face, a RARGH from offscreen, and then the expression on Ned's face changes to a mix of surprise and pain. The shot moves to a wider angle, and there's a spear in his leg.
At 2:45 - I think that they're actually wearing a sheet of chocolate bars over a grey knit sweater.
In the books - Ned and his retinue are on mounted, while Lannister men are on foot. Jaime just commands his men to capture Ned and then rides away. Ned's horse falls down and crushes his leg under the weight.
@Pinkaugust There seems something slightly off about the idea that Jaime would actually try to kill Ned at this stage, rather than just teach him a lesson. Yes, he was furious, but killing the Hand in the street, and not only that but the king's best friend, would be suicidal, and even in his disinterested, id-driven phase in Book 1, I can't see him doing something that stupid.
The other thing that bugs me slightly about this scene and its buildup is that it plays into a different conception of the characters than the books displayed. Bookwise, Jaime and Ned are the same age, and Jaime is a far superior swordsman. That Ned seems so much older is a comment on the characters' relative maturity, and lends weight to Jaime's character development as he becomes more Ned-like in later books. Here, they're essentially of different generations, and even if Jaime is technically better, it seems we're supposed to gather that Ned makes up the difference with experience.
For the version of the story we get on screen, it works fine, but its existence bothers me as a book-reader.
I liked what happens in the book a lot more.
@Nikolaij Brouiller Ned was a general, Jaime was a warrior. Jaime wins duels, Ned wins wars. Different skill set. And you're right, Ned didn't fight in tourneys to keep others in the dark. It's never revealed how good a swordsman he was or not.
@Pinkaugust It's in his personality to fight with people, yes, but at this point in the story he wouldn't try to kill Ned. He was very protective of Tyrion, who was captive of Catelyn at this point. The whole point of the attack was to send a message. Killing him, however, would have given Catelyn a reason to kill Tyrion. That's not a risk Jaime would take.
@Pinkaugust no Ned is about the same age as Jaime about 32ish. He is a few years younger than Robert. Ned was about 16 when he went off to war the first time. Comes back a year later with a baby. Start of book one, we have a 14 year jump (Jon Snows age). So 15 years puts him about 31 to 32. Just read through all the books again. I was surprised at how young everyone is. Also Robert is still alive, he has yet to go hunting. And you are right on the fact that Jaime doesn't really care, in book 3 he talks about how the night they were headed back to kingslanding. Robert was so drunk he had passed out, Jamie fucked Cersi in the same room, and He figured he Robert woke up he would have just killed them, he kind of wanted that to happen. Talk about wreckless.
*Rainier Wolfcastle voice*
"My chest! Ze armour, it does nothing!"
Only effective movie armour is plot armour 😉
at that point Jaime being angry about spear dude could have also been interpreted as pride and/or arrogance.
Have you done any break downs of The Duelist? I'd be interested to see that.
Back when this show was actually good.
battle of Castle Black - and all downhill from there
"Coat of plates or brigandine..."
An interesting video could be to talk about the differences between the two - is it just the name?
I think Brigandine had more smaller plates and was popular at a later date than Coat of Plates? I'm not an expert tho so take it with a pinch of salt.
Off the top of my head the coat of plates existed before the brigandine.
Coat of plates was worn by higher class people because it was the most advanced armor of that time, and it was made up of plates as big as they were able to make them, which slowly evolved into full plate armor.
Brigandine on the other hand coexisted with plate armor and was the armor of the less wealthy soldiers. It was made of small plates that were easy to replace or repair and was fastened at the front so a soldier didn't need servants to help him with his armor
Classically, brigandine is going to have a bunch of small, uniform, lamellar-like plates while coat of plates will have 3 large shaped plates that articulate across the chest and strips like lorica segmentatta over at least the front of the belly.
There's a very fuzzy middle ground of course and a lot of variation within each form, but in simple terms small, uniforms plates = brigandine and larger, location-specific plates is a coat of plates.
Historical sidenote, while they co-existed for a while, the coat of plates fell out of favor as an awkward middle ground between the lower cost of brigandine and the improving full plate harness forms in later period but they were an interesting form of articulated plate armor I hold a fondness for.
In short, it's just the name.
Longer story however: The Coat of Plates were the plate-armours riveted to a cover made during the 14th century (prior to this, we have the armored Surcotte in the 13th). They are basically a way of dressing in steel before the cuirass came about. A coat of plate is often made up of larger plates (although not exclusively so, especially on the back) that overlap slightly and the overall cut of the armour tends to serve function more than style. However, as the domed breastplate becomes dominant inside of the construction of coats of plate and the wasp-waist and dove-chest of doublets become social norms in civilian clothing, this starts re-shaping the Coats of plate.
Toward the second half of the 14th century, coat of plates basically look like cuirasses hidden underneath fabric, either with multiple smaller plates building up a domed chest, or one solid plate doing so. This is quite different from the 20's-40's style "wearable barrel" that we see in the Visby findings, as well as differing from the 40's-60's style of a more slender, weasel-like look. We now have slim waists, large domed chests and very, very complex backs made up of several dozens smaller plates riveted to the back of fabric.
Eventually, this splits off in two directions: the cuirass (or white harness, what we think of when we say "shining armor"), and the brigandine.
Now, the main difference between Coats of Plates and Brigandine can be said to be the smaller plates, and generally, this is true, although not exclusively (italian manuscripts from the 1380's show coats of plates made exclusively of super-small steel plates riveted together for instance, and we have finds of rebuilt lamellars and other things in the Visby battle).
Brigandines, however, are a stylistic denomination of the 15th century style of riveted metal defenses. Much like we call 14th century steel-strip limb armour for "splint" and 15th century steel-strip limb armor "jack chains", whilst it is true that the individual centuries used those individual terms, we see "splint" used as a term to describe what we today call Jack-chains, and we see Corrazinne, Pairs of Plates, Brigandine and Armored Doublet describing both Coats of Plates and Brigandines on both sides of the transition between centuries.
The main thing that makes Brigandines unique to Coats of Plates is that Brigandines are often cut to be similar to the doublets of the 15th and 16th century, following the body in the high-fashion of the period.
During the first half of the 14th century, the Coats of Plates were primarily Rich-people-armour (and the armour of Men-at-arms employed by said rich people). Steel plates were expensive and metallurgi hadn't come quite that far. However, during the middle of the century, we see it transition to be widely available. The militia of Visby had it (although outdated), kings and nobles wore it as well. It is first when we see breastplates and covered breastplates become a thing that we start seeing a shift down the ladder of "who wears what", with people of all casts still wearing coats of plates, but a larger part of the nobility wearing Breastplates/cuirasses.
This sort of split stays throughout the centuries. With the small plates and heavy rivet-work of the brigandine being cheaper to buy than the breastplates and cuirasses. However, brigandines were still comfortable (although less lance-proof) and thus popular in several situations for Nobles and Men-at-arms alike, even when a breastplate would probably cost about as much.
Brigandine was also used for other armor parts, not just the cuirass.
For example, there are brigandine gauntlets.
Turns out Game of Thrones was more of a High magic setting than we thought, everyone has +3 weapons of armour piercing. On the leg attacks, in the books Jaime was armoured during this scene (it also happened at night, just after the rain and with Ned of horseback) so I wonder if it wasn't choreographed with Jaime in armour, and they were actually trying to reflect what you talked about earlier. I do wish they had emphasized armour in the fights more, the books do a good job of making fighting a fully armoured knight a terrifying concept. From what I remember this scene had problems while shooting, and had to be reworked a few times.
Even the most important piece of armor, the helmet they never wear in movies because they have to see the actors face all the time.
@@AlexG-xl1cc That at least I can understand to a degree. THey are after all paying a pretty penny for some of those faces. But the rest, the armour would only serve to enhance the drama if it was properly reflected. We are seeing some improvements with time, but it still rankles.
8:00: I never noticed how bad Ned's attack was, because I was always distracted by how BLINDINGLY bad Jaime's parry was. Look at how off balance he is! Look at how mechanically weak the position of his arm is! He could've just lifted up his sword and been in a way better position!
Any fight from Captain Alatriste. Hope I spelled that right. But especially the fight between the captains apprentice and the bad guy. Cant remember the names, need to watch it again. But I remember excellent fight choreography.
What about Arya vs. the Night King?
Just kidding...
Weird match up, why would Arya fight the night king?
...That would just be silly.
Michael Jordan would be the perfect man to review this.
Ah, yes. Arya vs the Night King, or, as I call it, the One-Thrust Girl fight:
Night King: You're a fast one. Who are you?
Arya: Just a girl who's an assassin for fun.
Night King: For fun? What kind of half-assed backstory is that?! I was a leader of the First Men before I was turned into the ultimate weapon! I am the world's vaccine against life itself! And you say you do this for fun?! But then again, what do I expect from a pathetic little huma-"
Arya stabs the Night King, and the Night King explodes. Arya looks at her dagger and cries.
Arya: Not again; all it took was one thrust. Dammit!!!!!
@@AggelosKyriou jaha
"...actors aiming to miss..."
Oh man, just made me think of the throne room fight in The Last Jedi. I'd live to see you review that, disappearing weapons n' all! 😄
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Glad to see another fight review :) could you do another 5 questions video? I loved those. Stay safe from the plague. Love from Japan.
The shwing is not only because people were used to the military sabres, but also serve a theatrical device in movies.
Similar to firearm sounds, beeing it the cocking every fing time, or the clack when brought into shooting position the sound is used to up the stakes.
It is a noise to get a viewers attention to the tension rather a realistic depiction of the sound happening.
This might sound weird, but the anime "Junketsu no Maria" is set during the 100 years war and (if you discount magic of course) has surprisingly realistic combat and also clothing, weapons etc. ^^
it's a funny fact about japanese: they manage to represent our ancients designs much better than ourselves...
@@benjaminthibieroz4155 bollocks, this specific one does it well, the rest is all anime bullshit with oversized swords and armor and accent on strength over finesse
Skallagrim talked about this one awhile ago as well
Some of them really did research. I respect their attention to detail.
Not only that, there is a lot of cultural and esoteric references that, even when they took liberties, clearly indicate that they understood the reference material.
Eg, the succubus makes a joke early on referencing a French euphemism (le petite mort, 'the little death', as a phrase for orgasm) and most of the supernatural entities come right out of European myth. Even when the supernatural characters' personalities or roles are altered from their own mythos, they still resemble them and the changes are pretty reasonable.
The King 2019 - Henri's duel in England
I’ll never stop requesting Alatriste
"... a lot of penetrative power! Which is something we love on this channel." Oh never change please, hahaha.
I've tried to request before the hound vs. the mountain in season 1. It's a short fight but felt very realistic to me. That's why I wanted to see what you'd make of it. Amazing review today as always!
That fight was so shit and looked like there was 0 weight in the swings
@@daddypoochie or they were super strong. Swords aren't as heavy as you might think
"it will not make a SCHWING! when Jamie whips it out....." .......That's NOT what Cersai Lannister said!
re - 8:37
That riposte by Ned, where he's just parried a strike and turned it into a riposte, thrusted at Jamie's head is- in my opinion- the best part of this fight. It takes Jamie (or should I say 'Ser Jamie') by surprise and almost finishes him, but for his quick reaction to it. His facial expression says it all, really.
I'm a little disappointed that Matt didn't say more about it.
Mat, as a Buddhist apparently i have died countless times in sword fights,every concievable slash and thrust so i can tell you a few things about real swordfights as opposed to hema play and history book learnin.................................
..well i could... but i dont actually remember any.
How about a review of the battle of Rocroi in the spanish film "Alatriste"
As well as several of the dueling scenes in that film. :)
@@carldehaven7672 IIRC the rapier duels of Alatriste are more stabby than the typical Hollywood rapier slash fest. And when cuts are made, they serve as annoyances and distractions rather than insta-death. In my non-expert opinion, I think they are better than most.
Gumaro R. Villamil Rapiers, especially early rapiers, could deliver lethal cuts quite easily.
Yes, anything from Alatriste please!
Another request for Alatriste
Matt: "Fight scenes like this serve the story."
Benihoff and Weiss: "What is story?"
They kind of forgot what a story is :p
@@BrayOfTheDonkey You can't forget what you never knew.
It would be hilarious to reveiw D'Artagnan versus Rogesfort on the ice river from the 1970s musketeer movies.
1) This is wonderful, as always, and 2) wonder if you would please review the Battle of Sodden Hill in The Witcher? I think it's a mess and made an amateur video about it, but I would like to see you talk about it from your position of expertise and make a video that's, you know, better.
I think the best example of how you should fight with armored openent in the show was fight between Bronn and Sir Vardis in Arrens keep. Bronn didn't achtualy pierced a steel aromor, he found the weak places on the knee, and on the neck, that fight was fantastic
The opening fight in the parking lot in Highlander.
Multi-level parking garage, not a lot.
@@davidweihe6052 Well Macleod and Fasil don't go through the levels but whatever.
Nice review! Notice that Jaimie's horse is actually carrying his big battle sword for mounted stuff.
I'd never noticed how bizarrely Jory drew his sword until now.
I would’ve bought Jaime being an incredible fighter if this entire duel with Ned Jaime just looks and acts disappointed in Ned. Have Jaime attack with some probing strikes and while Ned blocks them, Ned is unable to attack in any real way. But hey that’s just me. How would you guys communicate Jaime’s skill?
Please review the fight with the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It's actually more realistic than most movie sword fights.
Which one? King Arthur vs the Black Knight, or the fight before that one between the Black Knight and the Green Knight?
The "shweeeng!" of the sword being drawn is to the British what the "chk-chk" of the shotgun clambering is to an American. Both say, "Things just got real."
Always liked the fight reviews the best 👍
I know you're not en specialist in Destreza, but it would be great to see a review of some of the rapier fights in the movie Alatriste.
Extra like for the Soundgarden Tshirt man. Superunknown. Best album ever. RIP Cornell. ROCK ON.
If the armor weren't being worn by Stark men, the spears possibly would not go through
Also REALLY love to see a review of any of the fight scenes from the 1973 version of "The Three Musketeers" staring Micheal York and its sequel.
Jaime also did use the cross guard to bash his soldier's face in at the end. Always nice to see hollywood remembering that crossguards exist.
I would like to see your commentary on 2 women swordfight at end of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon. I would like to see you play brutal PC combat game Exanima as well.
lol is this a response to Dave Rawlings getting approached by Insider?
I dont have any problem with there being a fight, how ever my problem is that the actors wasnt trained (especially jaime) to look competent, also making jaime seem inferior was a mistake
Seriously, if you do not start your "movie fight choreographer"-career soon, I´ma lose it.
"And... stabbed in the ass! You know how this fight ends."
I think it would be fun to look at some fights from Netflix’s The Outlaw King. There is a variety of weapons used and there are actually instances of armour being shown to protect against blade strikes (I know, a radical idea in a Hollywood production)
Make an analysis of the guy who beats 5 knights with a wooden sword by smacking them with it
I always took Jamie's reaction to interference as he wants prove himself as he was most know for stabbing the old king in the back.
RIP Arthur Dayne. I hope he shows up with Howland Reed in the next book.
Indded very interesting!
I would suggest a review of the duel in the polish movie The Deluge.
You wearing a band shirt, still feels strange to me. Where is the Superdry??? 😁
Superdry is feelin outshined outshined outshined outshined.
Superdry fell on wash (black) days
@@billpalmer7745 Blackhole sun, woncha come, and explain all the relevant context.
The king, and Outlaw King? That would be cool. The battles at least in Outlaw
I'd like to suggest a look at the saber duel in the TV series Centennial between Richard Crenna and Chad Everett.
This is Thrand, Great fight review and agreed Movie fights are not like real combat by any means. I did do the Sword experience with Adrian Paul and at least when he teaches fight choreography he makes sure the cuts and thrust are aimed at the opponent and the opponent must parry or move. Cannot wait to see you axe cuts M8!
Love your Soundgarden shirt!
Jaime's guard isn't that far away from Meyer's "Schlüssel", the Key Guard
Did you ever review the cliffs of insanity duel in Princess Bride?
Matt! Another GoT fight to review: The one in the cave in season 2 I think, between the hound and the guy with the flaming sword. From a realism viewpoint, its absolute dogshit, but from a hollywood cinematic viewpoint, I think its excellent. If you think about it in the context of some of the older adventure/fantasy films, like from the 40's-60's, they had a certain mindset about having their dramatic, theatrical, sword fights. And that fight in the cave with the hound and the flaming sword guy is like the epitome of that idea of theatrical sword fights.
When I'm high as shit, I sometimes imagine if you could somehow slip back in time and show that to the directors of some of those old adventure films. Think about their reaction to that. The effects, the sounds, the choreography, the music. It would be the most amazing shit they've ever seen!!!
Hey Mat! Have you reviewed the Red Viper vs The Mountain yet?! I thought the wushu footwork of the Red Viper was beautiful, your thoughts?!
Hey Matt, wondering if you could do something from The Last Kingdom, maybe Uhtred vs Ubba, I know you had a few things to say about their choices of props from some of the early stills but I don't think you did a proper video about any of the scenes from the show yet? Don't know if you hate it but I quite enjoy it.
The fight scenes in "Secondhand Lions."
Jaime’s guard looks a lot like “Key” in later German books. I’ve tried it, and while it seems like a decent position to thrust from it just feels way less flexible than Plow or Ox to me
Old video, unless you cover all fight s again.yay
First, I have seen season 1. Then I read all the books and then I went throught the whole TV series. And in both cases, I used to HATE Jamie at the start of the story, but he ended up as one of my favorite characters. Im just sad the TV show suck for the last 3 seasons.
Great review haha, hope to see you go through the rest of the series!!
Love the Badmotorfinger Tshirt!!
*Please do some rapier fights from Alatriste, this movie is very historically accurate and I would love to get your opinion about the fights too.*
I'd like fight reviews of anything from the Michael York, Oliver Reed, Christopher Lee Musketeers movies, or for something more recent, perhaps Ahsoka vs. Darth Maul in the latest series of the Clone Wars.
A great suggestion. Those films are full of extended rapier duels, especially D'Artagnian vs Rochefort on ice then at the convent.
Seconded. I've been requesting those movie fight scenes for years.
One fight scene I suggest reviewing is the fight between Theo Cornaro and Milza Kuces from the anime Record of Grancrest War. For an anime fight, it is extremely down-to-earth, and it utilizes something one rarely sees in a drawn-out big climatic fight: fatigue.
I’ve been in an armored melee and I’ve seen backs get turned before 😂😂. It’s usually from exhaustion and using your weight instead of your muscles to get the weapon swung.
How about reviewing the last fight between D'artagnan and Rochefort in the 70's Three Musketeers film?
@scholagladiatoria you should review some of the fight scenes from the game Kingdom Come Deliverance, if you haven't already. Especially the fight between Henry and Runt in the church steeple.
A review of Uthred vs Ubba in The Last Kingdom would be great with the season 4 released on netflix.
Was this prompted by Dave Rawlings' recent video? Anyway, I enjoy the deeper insight on this particular fight scene, and Mr.R comported himself with his usual humour, bluntness and charm. Really cool video that was, and they should get more people like him in the future.
Incidentally, Matt recently talked about indian clubs, and if you want to see more, London Longsword has some great videos on that subject. Also, netizens will be happy to hear that he has cats. Cats are good.
Rapier duels from Cyrano de Bergerac, film by Rappeneau with Gérard Depardieu. I think they work very well for the story, but I wonder how well they stand up in terms of actual historical combat ?
Henry vs Purcey at the beggining of The King. A Netflix film that is a loose adaptation of Shakespeare's Henry V. I liked the fight and saw it as more realistic than the typical Movie and Show sword fights... Also the film is great!
This fight was fine indeed. Nice to see a pretty accurate depiction of fighting in armor. But personnaly, if think the film is quite bad and full of historical and martial art absurdities
Movie fight review suggestion. 1998s _The Mask of Zorro_ with Anthony Hopkins and Antonio Banderas
remember when we gave a damn about GoT, now its a bad memory about 2 guys destroying an older man's life work.
Unbelievable how good it was until those idiots ruined it completely.
Regarding fight scenes for you to review, I submit the sabre duel in 'The Deluge' /watch?v=ljExTEPNFnM
I'm not the first to ask for it, and considering it's your area of expertise (same weapon, but different systems), I'd love your analysis of it.
Looking at it, I see it's 'moviefied', but is oft touted online as 'the most realistic swordfight scene on film'. I reckon it's perfect for your scrutiny.
For suggestions The Twilight Samurai (2002) has some really great grounded (to my amateur eyes) Japanese swordfighting duels.
When opponents would cross guards face to face like that is when "catchwrestling" and disarming comes into play.
Not likely actualy, you could but its easier to just whack them in the face while halfswording from that position.
Or the Hound and Aryah vs the Lannister men at the tavern
A review of one of the duels from Alatriste would be excellent! Pretty good mid 17th century Spanish rapier & dagger fencing. The opening scene night attack is also a great one! Also it’s free on UA-cam!
Jaime didn’t hit the Lannister soldier out of honour or chivalry, but because he was enjoying the fight. He wanted to be the one to end the fight.
Could you review the Agincourt battle scene from The King? Historically it's a travesty, but to me (admittedly no historian) it looks like it might be a semi-accurate description of armored fighting. Would like to hear your take on it.
I think Luke vs Vader in empire strikes back is an incredible fight because it uses a fair amount of realistic fighting movements from the two and also tells a great deal about their character.
Bronn vs. Ser Vardis Egen at the Eyrie please. A typical “lightly armoured rouge takes on clumsy, armoured knight” movie fight...
Dear Movies,
Pkease do things from the bind it is historical and looks so much cooler.
Sincerly,
Every Sword Enthusiasts Ever
Thanks to whomever liked my comment.
Seriously, just raise an eyebrow, tip the sword to let all the force they're putting into the bind slip off to the side, take their head while they're off balance, and shake yours walking away with a look of disappointment.
Get the timing and framing beats on that right and congrats, with a completely rudimentary technique you've just established your character as more skilled in the audience's eyes than any other they've ever seen on screen.
@@dynamicworlds1 Exactly. Pushing your swords and exchanging dialouge is so dumb. Isn't it the saying that actions speak louder than words. Get your crap together movies!
I wrote a scene once where my protagonist goes to bind in order to talk and reason the oponent. It ends really bad for her...
we need a sword fighting movie with the level of realism of a John Wick movie has with guns
This is gotta be one of my top 5 fights in GOT for sure.