Should I Attend an Unranked or Low-Ranked Law School?
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2020
- Ann stays on to answer a few admissions questions, and the first one is from Deeba. Deeba just nabbed a 75% scholarship (or discount code) from the first school they heard back from (whooo!). But they haven’t heard from any of the other 20 schools they applied to. Even though Deeba’s got a green light from the school, it’s not high ranking. Deeba asks if it’s worthwhile to go to a school for low or no cost even if it’s not well ranked. Ann suggests that Deeba is just in the early part of the cycle at this point and that more admissions letters are sure to roll in, which means Deeba will have some (hopefully) fun decisions to make. The crew weighs in about Deeba’s current sitch.
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Just make sure it is accredited. Most of law school is your effort. Brief the cases yourself. This is vital. This develops your ability to understand the importance of analysis. What cannot be taught in law school but happens in real life is the ability to gather all the facts. This is vital. The worst thing is to apply the law accurately based upon insufficient or incorrect facts. Check your fact sources "every which way". If you need more information, get it. Best wishes.
@@jssjss721 yes but you are an exception to the rule. The numbers are stacked against you.
@@jssjss721 sure some people who attend low or unranked universities find jobs and succeed but employment outcomes all prove it. Also, as your prior claim that you can start a solo practice. Even this is a grim chance because data shows that only 3% of people who come from low tier law schools do as you said. The better question as I mentioned before was about employment outcomes not rankings. Do you think someone in a law school with less than a 50% of chance of finding a job will find a job if they graduated middle of their class? It might be with great hardship. Reducing the risk of unemployment is important. And going to a low tier law school generally increases that!
@@jssjss721 I’m not trying to be rude but it would really be interesting to see you found a job? Especially after going to an unaccredited university.
@@jssjss721 what about class rank? If you are not at the top of your class in a low employability law school will you find a job? I’d really like to know since some attribute the only reason for finding legal employment because of class ranking.
@@jssjss721 this is especially true for those in lower ranked law schools.
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David and Goliath by Malcolm Gladwell is a good reference for picking which school you go to. In it, he argues that you should weigh your personal ranking against your peers (i.e., your LSAT and GPA vs your peers') over school prestige because that will make it more likely that you graduate with a law degree. It's worth giving it a read.
@WorldFlex I agree. You can be ambitious and have it all: pick a cheap law school and be in the top ranks of your peers.
this is horrible advice that only applies to law schools that have to fail students to weed out ones that won't pass the bar. these law schools are never top 50. If you go to a top law school especially a top 14 you don't have to worry about having less numbers than your peers as the law schools aren't failing students and they give them every resource possible to make sure they maintain a 0 attrition rate year to year....
It can actually be less competitive at top schools than at the lower ranked ones. In the t13s for instance, nearly everyone knows they’re gonna have good employment outcomes. So the students don’t have to beat each other out just to get their desired positions. UVA for instance doesn’t even allow students to talk about grades amongst each other.
Contrast that to top-50 schools and beyond, the students actually have to do well to get desirable outcomes. If a student wants big law for instance, they’re gonna have to fight to place in the top 10% of their class.
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Law school rankings matter insofar as they reflect employment outcomes of different law schools. You need to choose a lower ranked law school based on cost and employment outcomes. In general, imho it is better to avoid lower ranked law school since they generally have poorer employment outcomes. The ultimate goal of law school should be to augment a useless degree.
@@jssjss721 Josh the odds of starting a law practice right after graduating are relatively slim. It is simply not possible and impractical in most situations. I might be wrong, but I am purely speaking from experience.
@@jssjss721 Wow. You seem like an exception to the rule. I have not seen that many people do this in my experience. Also, is it true that many lawyers go to law school because they have useless degrees and can't find jobs?
@@jssjss721 What you are saying might have some truth to it as employment opportunities might increase if you try to start your own law firm when you are in a low-ranked law school. But your analysis fails to consider certain other factors which explain why tier 3 and 4 law schools get the bad reputation they do. These law schools are located in podunk locations ie. rural areas and small towns where demand for legal services is lower. Also, the digital revolution is negatively affecting the law field because legal services as a total portion of the United States GDP was higher in the 1970s in comparison to now. What makes you think many people would succeed simply by picking up clients? It might be possible, but the odds of coming out alive in a third or fourth tier or going even further in a second tier are fairly grim.
@@pranavpillai7778 Starting a solo practice right out of law school is a profoundly bad idea. The work product of most first year lawyers resembles rotting sewage. In addition, attracting clients with the sales pitch "I've been working as a lawyer for two weeks, let me help you resolve your complex legal problems" is insane, and a recipe for Malpractice. In my state a young, new lawyer was recently permanently disbarred for screwing up a case so badly that his client was wrongfully convicted and deported. The young man had no idea what he was doing--because law school does not actually teach one how to practice law--and the Grievance Commission and the state's highest court felt that they could not allow him to do any more damage to future clients, so they yanked his ticket on the spot. Seriously, try skydiving, or penny stocks if you want to do something foolish and risky, opening your own law practice when you have no experience practicing law is one of the dumbest things a person can do in life.
Free ride. Sure! Why not? Why get 250k in debt
Like Arbaham Lincoln said " I went to Yale and Harvard"
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You shouldn't attend law school period. The job market is grossly oversaturated and has been for decades. People refuse to acknowledge this reality. . .did you know, for example that the state of Pennsylvania has TEN law schools? 10 in just one state? And some states have even more? Factually, that means that in PA over 1,500 new JD's are graduating each year, maybe more, depending on the class sizes. There is no possible way that there are jobs for over 1,500 brand new lawyers every 12 months in that one state. In fact, there probably aren't even jobs for half of them. Perhaps 1/3 might find some sort of legal employment. And if you say, well, just go to another state--the job market for lawyers is pretty much flooded in every state, and law is a very prestige oriented field. Saying I went to some random out-of-state law school, and it took me two years to learn this new state's law and pass its Bar Exam, so hire me is beyond stupid. Seriously, don't be a sucker and fork out a lot of tuition money and waste three years of your life because you want a job like the ones on Suits, or you like Law & Order, or what else can you do with your Philosophy degree. Getting another expensive, time consuming, worthless degree is not the answer.
Lol Biden/Harris. And you guys are suppose to be critical thinkers?
No, that's why the justice system is what it is. I'm preparing take the bar exam without attending law school because this is what you're going to get.
Smart people lean liberal. If they supported Trump, they could never be critical thinkers. Take yourself, for example, you see one girl wearing a Biden shirt and assume they are all liberal. Clearly no critical thinking skills and thus a Trumper.
@@dragonflarefrog1424 People who adjudicate themselves as "smart" lean liberal. This tendency and trait is a strong indicator of ignorance.
@@GabrielGomez-ur2rc Nah, Trump calls himself smart far more then Obama ever did, and Trump is not liberal. Nice try tho.
@@dragonflarefrog1424 Bro, what are you even talking about? I don't think either of them are especially bright, and when you think in black and white terms like this, it is a pretty strong indicator that you're not either.
If you want ANYONE to consider you as being an intelligent individual with the ability to think rationally do not wear a political shirt, especially when it's a Biden/Harris promotion. As soon as I saw the shirt I knew whatever you had to say was irrelevant and based upon a skewed and flawed reasoning ability. It's a shame that you ruined a potentially valuable video by throwing the pathetically incompetent Biden/Harris nonsense into your presentation.
LOL, how come most people who claim to be anti-political are Trumplicans?
So…you espouse the value of rational thinking whilst claiming that you dismissed a person’s viewpoints/intelligence simply based off of the t-shirt she’s wearing?
Irony deficiency?