i have to say i have been a fan from this channel for years, but the videos are getting more and more focussed on pleasing the advertisers / sponsors, then the people that supported this channel to even get you in this situation
@HomeMadeModern - It’s BIZARRE to see the size of your channel & then seeing ONLY 247 COMMENTS!!! I mean, this video is WELL MADE, doesn’t drag on, & interesting to ANYONE... There’s even a CLICKBAIT HOTTIE!! Every box checked, but still nowhere near the deserved engagement - YT is a strange beast... ANYHOW - IF U SEE THIS - I’m currently fiddling with some water PUMPING/HEATING ideas myself (hence my finding your great video!) and ONE IDEA instantly popped into my head FOR YOU TO CONSIDER: I know you stated you want to explore other “On-Demand” “PROPANE” heating ideas, but IF you’re open to the idea of ELECTRIC HEATING (since SOLAR & mobile power banks have come a VERY LONG WAY), I do know of 1 method that’s SUPER DIY // SUPER LOW BUDGET // SUPER EFFECTIVE which I’m hoping to share with you... It’s difficult to get specific in the comment section especially when the chances of BEING SEEN by the creator average at around 9%... So, if you DO see this & would like further details, please don’t hesitate to email me - at - protonmail - d0t - C0m - by simply adding my YT name to the @ front!! (Code words to avoid algobots & trollonaughts) Having said that, the basic concept of this method is quite simple... Using ANY garbage can sized container, drum, whatever, you can ibstall however many SUBMERGIBLE HEATING COILS you need near the bottom of your container (by inserting them thru the outer wall, and sealing the hole around the coil(s)) I’ve seen this method utilized for a DIY homemade solar power harvesting project (I believe, but can look back to verify if needed) and the water inside the container became VERY HOT within a short period of time using 2 large coils... Then you’d obviously insert your intake/outlet scenario of choice and BINGO, hot water... Now ANOTHER METHOD (which I’ve personally done) is creating a COMPLETELY SOLAR POWERED WATER HEATING SETUP that is BUDGET FRIENDLY, quite an EASY concept to grasp, and honestly?? PRETTY FUN!!! You may have seen this or even have done this yourself in previous videos, BUT this method requires the use of a thin walled black tubing (PLENTY of it; 250FT+ for best results) which your water would be pumped (using a surprisingly LOW POWER pump) FROM your pool/tub into a MASSIVE TUBING COIL that you’d design using that same continuous length of tube... This “coil” or “spiral” of tubing is where your MAGIC happens because you’ll be placing it in a location that receives the most sunlight thruout your day (JUST LIKE A SOLAR PANEL)... the water that flows from your pool/tub travels all thruout your massive coil (or several coils, or an oval, or however you’d like to design it) where it gets baked by the sun... Once it completes the maze, it finds its way back into the tub!! If you’re skeptical, I’ll blow your mind... I tried this for a 15’ above ground pool that my ex-wife setup for the kids at her place... The water was always BONE CRACKING COLD and the money & effort she put into it was being wasted by the day.... Despite her DEMANDING I DO NOT DO THIS, I of course DID IT and the FAHRENHEIT TEMPERATURE of this water AS IT LEFT THE TUBING SYSTEM was 156°....... Yes... you heard me..... that was 156 D E G R E E S..... FAHRENHEIT..... 😳 OBVIOUSLY I had very little to do with it after the installation (just like literally everything else she uses me or takes my cash for) so I can’t testify to it’s lasting effects... The only tests I conducted THAT DAY were temperatures WITHIN the coil BOX I made (forgot to mention that placing your coil in a shallow, sturdy, DIY “picture frame” style box is a must) which I quite cleverly rigged to the roof of a large shed nearby... I struggled with whether or not to put a CLEAR glass over it, a FRESNEL (enhancing) glass, NO glass, etc... But further research after the fact SEEMED to suggest that a SEALED, internally BLACKED OUT, box w/ a standard clear plexiglass top was best because there was some issue with other methods that I’m not remembering... While the 156° RAPIDLY decreases as it mixes in with 6,000 GALLONS of glorious NJ TAP WATER, I’m quite confident that this MUCH SMALLER, better maintained, and COVERED hot tub application would actually benefit tremendously from my solar idea... Again, there are obviously details im forced to scurry past (such as the pump comment above - or HOW you’d use THE SUN to even POWER THAT PUMP - and so on), BUT seeing as how you have nearly 2 MILLION subs and I don’t even have a channel... I’m beginning to feel like perhaps I’ve explained this TOO much and that it was silly to think you’d need to reach out for additional info... lol 😬 my bad, oops! LASTLY - I have several motors, pumps, heating elements that I’ve SALVAGED at ZERO COST that I’ve been fiddling with - Just before watching your video, I was scraping bubbled up paint & mildly rusted metal from within a HEATING ELEMENT I took out of a perfectly good INTEX Hot Tub control unit that I can’t imagine NOT WORKING for you... I’m not sure why, but in my local area alone, on 2 separate evening, I was able to collect FOUR of these units - WEIRD since they’re NOT CHEAP TO BUY - But yes, 4 fully intact (i believe) units with LIKE NEW CONDITION internals that I recently began stripping down to learn how they work and see what fun toys hide inside!!! This heating element is quite interesting. It’s basically a “sandwich” holding an electric heating plate inside it w/ 4 leads on one end (appears to be for TEMP CHANGES)... The entire unit is 8” x 3.5” x 2.5” and there are spaces on either side of the heat plate for water to pass over it... Then there are molded plastic “end caps” that are VERY SECURELY screwed on each end which have the IN/OUT pipe leads and I believe 1 has a heat sensor inside plus there’s another heat sensor on the metal body outside (measurements DID NOT include these end caps, but they’re maybe 2” each added to the length of 8”) If this can heat an intex tub, it can heat your tubs... I’d be MORE THAN HAPPY to send you one of these bad boys so I can see how you implement it & as a thank you for what you do to inspire wannabe makers like me!! Just let me know using the email info above. Take care and keep going with this hard work you do!
I would not recommend a cloth, absorbent material underneath, as this will soak up water and rot your deck. Also massive mold will grow under hot water. You should use a closed cell foam which is used for underlay for flooring, built up to desired thickness.
@@LordOfThePancakes it’s not temporary moisture, it’s the water that gets in, and stays. It WILL go black mold on you. Eventually the boards will give way on you. If there is an air way, that allows the thorough drying of the wood, then rot can be held at bay for years. However, the moisture stays causing the deadly black mould, and mushroom type fungus that literally eats the wood. The heat from the hot tub will condense moist air and cause damp. Closed cell foam will insulate between the differing heat, thus no condensate.
this video is an example for all the youtubers that get famous! The more famous they get, the more they are looking for shortcuts to "just make a video" for ad the sake of ad revenue...getting more and more detached from the projects and possible also the values / reasons that got them started in the first place!
@@ChrisPage68 no, i have not. And i am not speaking against the project, i really like it and the fact that it is affordable, i just don´t like that his videos get more and more packed with mentions of companies and products..That is not something that is helping people with the need for affordable housing, nor are they looking for a squarespace alternative. And if you read other comments, i am not the only one thinking like that
Hopefully you reinforced for deck and foundation to support the weight of the tub, and you want the underlayment to breathe, not hold moisture/water, which is only going to rot the decking below the tub very quickly. Also, try having the hot end (positive flow) feed directly into the tub to prevent heat loss. Insulating the walls would also help drastically hold the heat. Great build!
Cool idea, but with the shower head so high up, you will be losing a lot of heat as it heats the air and evaporates. Have the hose feed directly into the tub.
@The Red One my initial comment pointed out "the sponsored ad was ... *not* ... longer than the video" I also like the way he's broken the content up .. flash of sponsor .. *basic build* .. advert in middle .. *improvements to build* .. self promo .. UA-cam 1-minute end-roll ad tacked on
I built one using a metal tank like yours. Painted the inside blue and used a summer-fun pool filer cut in the side. it lasted about 5 yrs ,but the chlorine finally ate up the tank. It looked great and worked well. I also used an external pump from Harbor Freight to heat by running hosepipe through a solar greenhouse type deal . It worked OK, but never got really hot.I should of developed it some more I'm going to try again using a black 300 gallon Rubbermaid tub from tractor supply.Oh yeah I had a waterfall on my first one by using a small pond from Lowe's
You might think twice about that poly tub, hot water destroys the polymer. You'll end up with black skin, black water and won't want to dump it on the ground.
I enjoyed your clever use of propane and propane accessories. I would like to try this, as this is one of the nine uses of propane I have not experienced firsthand.
I have a fabulous LP heater made Chofu. Been using it for about 10 yrs. Same idea w/ stock tank except I drilled 2 holes in the tank. The heater thermo syphons (circulates) the water. You just need a paddle to stir it up. Water is filtered through 2 sediment filters. Set it on a round hot tub cover for ground insulation then got 1” rigid insulation and scored it so it could be fitted around the tank. Got some dark green marine upolstery and covered it. Found a used round rigid hot tub lid. Has a timer. Runs about 7 gallons a month in winter (northern Ca). I don’t know if they make it anymore.
You should consider a surplus M67 military immersion heater. Military field kitchens use them in standard galvanized steal garbage cans to heat water for cleaning.
We used a caged stock tank heater in my aunt's when we wanted warm. I also saw a coffee maker used for a heater, but I don't remember the video. I gave my broken one to a neighbour who was planning on doing this.
Looks epic!. just a suggestion - if you have the hot water go directly into the tub rather than using the shower head the water will be hotter, as you are losing heat from the water when using the shower head as it hits the air and cools a little before hitting the rest of the water in the tub 😊
I was thinking the same thing. I'd also add to this and say make sure the water you are adding is being added at the bottom of the tank since hot water rises if you add it to the top the hottest water is cooling down the fastest.
Ben you're right on time! My husband and I are redoing our backyard and I have DREAMS of a hot tub. I have begun researching our DIY options vs. traditional options. I am excited to see the series as I continue to explore what others have done and the best path moving forward. My husband and I live near Monterey, CA and my biggest hurdle is insulation. I don't want to use a bunch of energy and time to heat the water and maintain temperature. Thanks for sharing your explorations!
If it were me, I'd hook up my own 12v circulation pump that's sized right for the job and pumps enough water to make the water heater happy- hook up the hoses, adapt them as needed. I would replace the DC battery supply in the water heater with a dc-dc buck converter board (cheap on ebay) and set the output voltage to 3v, that way D batteries are no longer in the equation and the water heater runs now on 12v dc. I'd add an in-line 12vdc digital thermostat (they're cheap on ebay) and run the temp probe sensor into the tub. When desired set temperature is reached, power can be cut from the 12v going to the pump. This stop the heater. When water temp drops, the pump turns back on, heater fires back up, it's self maintained.
What about using the drain plug on the tank which is threaded to circulate water back to the heater with some adapters. also they make tank heater that can go in those drain plugs to keep the tank from freezing. figure out how to rewire the heater to exclude the thermostat and presto!
I own the whole Joolca system and run it off a Goal Zero Yeti as my main shower and hot water sink in an off grid scenario, using a 150 gal stock tank as a bath tub for occasional soaks. I would not buy it just for use in this type of temporary hot tub set up because of cost. As you say, this is not a long term hot tub solution as letting the unfiltered, untreated water sit in the stock tank would get gross. But if you’ll get use out of the Joolca system while camping, at festivals, for everyday use like my situation, then this is a nice additional way to use it.
Why use a propane water heater? Coil 25 ft of 5/8"black drip line tubing onto a 4x5 sheet of plywood. Attach one end to a 12 volt submersible sump pump available on Amazon. The other end dangels in the tub. The pump is powered by a solar panel from, also from Amazon. Both the recirculation panel and the solar panel could hang from the wooden fence behind the tub. There are 12 volt pumps that can circulate 500 gals per hour depending on the size of the solar panel. 100% eco friendly and no burning of hydrocarbons. Probably cost $250. Never needs service. As soon as the panel catches the sun's rays, the pump starts circulating the water through the black heating coil.
I use a similar set up as yours on some off grid property in SW Missouri . I have the Joolca set up as well and use that for my shower and dish washing - it is a great set up. I made a berm around and underneath the tub using rocks (we have tons of them around here) and a simple mortar mix. This gives it some insulation and on sunny days the rocks heat up
Hello, the recirculation idea does not work - we tried it. The Joolca has a safety feature that cuts off the heater when the output water goes above 124 F. The heater is designed to heat cold water, so once your input is over 80F the heater will get too hot even on the very lowest setting. You're limited to heating the water as you fill the tub, and then soaking until it gets cool.
Thanks for this, Ben! This was my concern with buying this system, as many pumps cannot handle too hot of an input and will shut down to cool off. Appreciate you sharing! Any other ideas to combat this problem?
@@civic2004racer no, you just run the water hot and then soak until it cools. In our 110 gallon tub we can run 110 degree water and soak for well over an hour before it cools too much. If you want to recirculate you’ll probably need a heater designed for hot tubs.
Why not just the bucket warmers for horse buckets? You can throw a few in the hot tub and take them out. They prevent freezing in horse buckets in the winter but they electrically warm the water
I just did a wood hot tub project and used an electric immersion heater to warm it up. I turn it off before I get in (though it's fully earthed of course) and it works great.
Im not sure of the pressure needed but adding a sealed through wall interconnect at the bottom of the tub to connect a hose to the propane heater then another hose that connects to a similar through wall connection at the top could be done without a pump. The pressure from gravity pushing on the water may be enough pressure to push it through the heater. If not adding a pump would be just as easy with a cleaner look. Possibly an electric water pump/heater would be better too depending on cost.
That’s pretty genius . I would just adhere treated cedar planks with stain around outside of tub for aesthetics secured by glue and rope strapping or something. Maybe line the top of tub with thickest cut pool noodles you can find. Still trying to figure out how to filtrate it without having to drill into it and set up yet another contraption. Maybe line the inside with some big rubber sheet just to avoid the uncomfortable aluminum interior
SO, i have created this exact setup, the joolca pump is quite, but so weak that the flame cant go above min and flow rate can only be set at 3 or it shuts off due to low flow, tried the Royobi transfer pump and it doesnt really work much better, unit keeps shutting off due to the temperature inside the unit reaching 122. Any tips im willing to listen as im financially invested!
It will heat MUCH more efficiently if you drop the head directly into the water. If you spray it, the water that reaches the tub will be significantly cooler from it what it is at the nozzle because of evaporative cooling. Which reminds me, you might find some really neat applications for evaporative cooling in your Joshua Tree projects. (Evaporative coolers get pretty manky and gross, but the principle of their operation is fascinating).
Thanks for sharing your ideas. I live in Northland New Zealand in an off grid situation and am looking for easier ways to have an outdoor bath than lighting a fire each time. I can't wait for your updates and the cedar version sounds great! Bravo.
As cool as that would be or sounds. That is thermally inefficient, Water has a volumetric heat capacity more than twice that of concrete. So heating water in heating tubes to heat concrete to heat water again, would consume and waste way more BTUs than if you just heat the water directly.
Gotta love Jess goofing off at the end. Off Grid hot tubs. This is an idea I would have loved when I was 20. Remind me to tell you of the Jacuzzi we built at White Water when I really was 20. Ohhh the stories.
Growing up in Florida I knew people that built hot tubs out of plywood and sealed them with boat paint then used the house water heater to heat the water not a very good way to regulate the tempertures my Dad used to say they were going to boil themselves to death lol I bet a replacement heater for those inflatable hot tubs would be great for your idea
Or just use a pump to pump the water from the tank back into hot water heater providing a closed loop system instead of using hose water to fill and drain to have hot water.
wow i.ve been subscribed for a while now and this hot tap really caught my attention now i know i can get hot water if the gas company turns my gas off during the pandemic
I have been in one of these stock tanks that was a hot tub by digging a small hole at one end in the dirt and building a small fire. Three hours later, hot water.
HomeM...390 gallon stock tank..Gotcha. Can I get one at Home Depot or only at Feed Stores or what? !! Awesome...it looks pretty easy to put together. The propane water heater is easily available from Home Depot also?
Good luck getting that water warm enough for a quick bath. By the time you finish filling it with a few inches of water, it will be mostly cold already.
Might be fun to play with for an afternoon... but without any kind of water filtration that thing is going to be green and slimy by the end of the week or even a breeding ground for mosquitos.
Hello! How much gas would you say is used heating this up? I have all my supplies and intend to build this weekend but no one has ever talked about the gas consumption. How soon could I expect to have to get a new tank? Note: I do have a pool filter and pump
you cannot use a Joola for this set up it won't work! It has an internal temperature governor that initiates the safety to shut off the Joola when warm water is pulled into it. So you cannot recirculate this. Camplux will work .
I modified my joolca so it didnt auto cut off at 50 degrees and you can recirculate. It adds about 20 to 30 degrees C onto any water going in. So if you want 45 degree water it will start auto cutting when you get to about 42.
This guys used cement board as a fire barrier for a contained system a foot off the deck, while overlanders are putting the same thing in a plastic box with an inch of clearance on the sides lol
Could anyone explain to me how adding a battery for the igniter which could be made to work without any extra power source (like on a propane grille or old water heater) is an innovation that makes it more off-the-grid friendly?
You don't need a water pump to circulate the water in the tub as the hot water produced by the gas heater will circulate the water by itself through convection.
Why not just put a cheap propane burner under the tub. Or a fire. Ideally a rocket burner system. Heat water directly, skip all the hoses and pumping and filtering.
OK I love this transfer pump idea! How much propane does it take to say heat that whole tub? Probably way cheaper than electric which my friends have and their bill was.....scary haha. Ive watched your other videos with the wood fire hot tub and Ive had the pleasure of using one once (even cutting my own wood) and I was SO surprised by how good it worked! They had a ironcast stove that was submerged partially underwater with an exhaust pipe coming out. I thought it was so wacky that it was under the water but....amazing results!
@@yellowburgereven worse…watching this whole video when: Inflatable hot tubs with jets are $300 or less if you get them used This video is the same as getting in a bathtub. Or run a hose to your water line for your washing machine..but a $30 submersible heater for when your hot water heater runs out. A lot better than buying a propane tank and likely a water heater that costs half as much as an inflatable hot tub.
This video is great I am gonna try it in my backyard. I wish you could bring a hot tub to burning man but sadly it’s against the rules. Would be great for a shower there tho
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Can you please at least write that this is an Ad for 5 companies in the description? where is the diy part?
i have to say i have been a fan from this channel for years, but the videos are getting more and more focussed on pleasing the advertisers / sponsors, then the people that supported this channel to even get you in this situation
V cool diy
@HomeMadeModern - It’s BIZARRE to see the size of your channel & then seeing ONLY 247 COMMENTS!!! I mean, this video is WELL MADE, doesn’t drag on, & interesting to ANYONE... There’s even a CLICKBAIT HOTTIE!! Every box checked, but still nowhere near the deserved engagement - YT is a strange beast...
ANYHOW - IF U SEE THIS - I’m currently fiddling with some water PUMPING/HEATING ideas myself (hence my finding your great video!) and ONE IDEA instantly popped into my head FOR YOU TO CONSIDER:
I know you stated you want to explore other “On-Demand” “PROPANE” heating ideas, but IF you’re open to the idea of ELECTRIC HEATING (since SOLAR & mobile power banks have come a VERY LONG WAY), I do know of 1 method that’s SUPER DIY // SUPER LOW BUDGET // SUPER EFFECTIVE which I’m hoping to share with you...
It’s difficult to get specific in the comment section especially when the chances of BEING SEEN by the creator average at around 9%...
So, if you DO see this & would like further details, please don’t hesitate to email me - at - protonmail - d0t - C0m - by simply adding my YT name to the @ front!! (Code words to avoid algobots & trollonaughts)
Having said that, the basic concept of this method is quite simple... Using ANY garbage can sized container, drum, whatever, you can ibstall however many SUBMERGIBLE HEATING COILS you need near the bottom of your container (by inserting them thru the outer wall, and sealing the hole around the coil(s))
I’ve seen this method utilized for a DIY homemade solar power harvesting project (I believe, but can look back to verify if needed) and the water inside the container became VERY HOT within a short period of time using 2 large coils... Then you’d obviously insert your intake/outlet scenario of choice and BINGO, hot water...
Now ANOTHER METHOD (which I’ve personally done) is creating a COMPLETELY SOLAR POWERED WATER HEATING SETUP that is BUDGET FRIENDLY, quite an EASY concept to grasp, and honestly?? PRETTY FUN!!!
You may have seen this or even have done this yourself in previous videos, BUT this method requires the use of a thin walled black tubing (PLENTY of it; 250FT+ for best results) which your water would be pumped (using a surprisingly LOW POWER pump) FROM your pool/tub into a MASSIVE TUBING COIL that you’d design using that same continuous length of tube... This “coil” or “spiral” of tubing is where your MAGIC happens because you’ll be placing it in a location that receives the most sunlight thruout your day (JUST LIKE A SOLAR PANEL)... the water that flows from your pool/tub travels all thruout your massive coil (or several coils, or an oval, or however you’d like to design it) where it gets baked by the sun... Once it completes the maze, it finds its way back into the tub!!
If you’re skeptical, I’ll blow your mind...
I tried this for a 15’ above ground pool that my ex-wife setup for the kids at her place... The water was always BONE CRACKING COLD and the money & effort she put into it was being wasted by the day.... Despite her DEMANDING I DO NOT DO THIS, I of course DID IT and the FAHRENHEIT TEMPERATURE of this water AS IT LEFT THE TUBING SYSTEM was 156°....... Yes... you heard me..... that was 156 D E G R E E S..... FAHRENHEIT..... 😳
OBVIOUSLY I had very little to do with it after the installation (just like literally everything else she uses me or takes my cash for) so I can’t testify to it’s lasting effects... The only tests I conducted THAT DAY were temperatures WITHIN the coil BOX I made (forgot to mention that placing your coil in a shallow, sturdy, DIY “picture frame” style box is a must) which I quite cleverly rigged to the roof of a large shed nearby...
I struggled with whether or not to put a CLEAR glass over it, a FRESNEL (enhancing) glass, NO glass, etc...
But further research after the fact SEEMED to suggest that a SEALED, internally BLACKED OUT, box w/ a standard clear plexiglass top was best because there was some issue with other methods that I’m not remembering...
While the 156° RAPIDLY decreases as it mixes in with 6,000 GALLONS of glorious NJ TAP WATER, I’m quite confident that this MUCH SMALLER, better maintained, and COVERED hot tub application would actually benefit tremendously from my solar idea...
Again, there are obviously details im forced to scurry past (such as the pump comment above - or HOW you’d use THE SUN to even POWER THAT PUMP - and so on), BUT seeing as how you have nearly 2 MILLION subs and I don’t even have a channel... I’m beginning to feel like perhaps I’ve explained this TOO much and that it was silly to think you’d need to reach out for additional info... lol 😬 my bad, oops!
LASTLY - I have several motors, pumps, heating elements that I’ve SALVAGED at ZERO COST that I’ve been fiddling with - Just before watching your video, I was scraping bubbled up paint & mildly rusted metal from within a HEATING ELEMENT I took out of a perfectly good INTEX Hot Tub control unit that I can’t imagine NOT WORKING for you...
I’m not sure why, but in my local area alone, on 2 separate evening, I was able to collect FOUR of these units - WEIRD since they’re NOT CHEAP TO BUY - But yes, 4 fully intact (i believe) units with LIKE NEW CONDITION internals that I recently began stripping down to learn how they work and see what fun toys hide inside!!!
This heating element is quite interesting. It’s basically a “sandwich” holding an electric heating plate inside it w/ 4 leads on one end (appears to be for TEMP CHANGES)... The entire unit is 8” x 3.5” x 2.5” and there are spaces on either side of the heat plate for water to pass over it... Then there are molded plastic “end caps” that are VERY SECURELY screwed on each end which have the IN/OUT pipe leads and I believe 1 has a heat sensor inside plus there’s another heat sensor on the metal body outside (measurements DID NOT include these end caps, but they’re maybe 2” each added to the length of 8”)
If this can heat an intex tub, it can heat your tubs... I’d be MORE THAN HAPPY to send you one of these bad boys so I can see how you implement it & as a thank you for what you do to inspire wannabe makers like me!! Just let me know using the email info above.
Take care and keep going with this hard work you do!
K. Thanks
I would not recommend a cloth, absorbent material underneath, as this will soak up water and rot your deck. Also massive mold will grow under hot water. You should use a closed cell foam which is used for underlay for flooring, built up to desired thickness.
Maybe I want my deck to soak up water… Not a bad idea seeing as it sits out in the sun 24/7. Since when is a little moisture so terrible?
@@LordOfThePancakes it’s not temporary moisture, it’s the water that gets in, and stays. It WILL go black mold on you. Eventually the boards will give way on you. If there is an air way, that allows the thorough drying of the wood, then rot can be held at bay for years. However, the moisture stays causing the deadly black mould, and mushroom type fungus that literally eats the wood. The heat from the hot tub will condense moist air and cause damp. Closed cell foam will insulate between the differing heat, thus no condensate.
DIY Hot Tub, step 1 buy tub, step 2 buy heater, DONE.
But then you won't get a sponsor 😉
You left out the 3 minute ad and the relentless product placement
🤑🤘🏻
It’s 100 degrees outside. “I want a hot tub”
I can do this lol
this video is an example for all the youtubers that get famous! The more famous they get, the more they are looking for shortcuts to "just make a video" for ad the sake of ad revenue...getting more and more detached from the projects and possible also the values / reasons that got them started in the first place!
You missed the part where he talked about being committed to affordable housing. 🤦
@@ChrisPage68 no, i have not. And i am not speaking against the project, i really like it and the fact that it is affordable, i just don´t like that his videos get more and more packed with mentions of companies and products..That is not something that is helping people with the need for affordable housing, nor are they looking for a squarespace alternative. And if you read other comments, i am not the only one thinking like that
@@MrAndi1281 They don't see to be having more ads, he's always done this.
Hopefully you reinforced for deck and foundation to support the weight of the tub, and you want the underlayment to breathe, not hold moisture/water, which is only going to rot the decking below the tub very quickly. Also, try having the hot end (positive flow) feed directly into the tub to prevent heat loss. Insulating the walls would also help drastically hold the heat. Great build!
Cool idea, but with the shower head so high up, you will be losing a lot of heat as it heats the air and evaporates. Have the hose feed directly into the tub.
The sponsored ad was longer than the video...
That's UA-camrs these days
.. the advert was about 1:30
@The Red One
my initial comment pointed out "the sponsored ad was ... *not* ... longer than the video"
I also like the way he's broken the content up
.. flash of sponsor
.. *basic build*
.. advert in middle
.. *improvements to build*
.. self promo
.. UA-cam 1-minute end-roll ad tacked on
😂
@@DragonGateDesign 👉 right. Lol
I built one using a metal tank like yours. Painted the inside blue and used a summer-fun pool filer cut in the side. it lasted about 5 yrs ,but the chlorine finally ate up the tank. It looked great and worked well. I also used an external pump from Harbor Freight to heat by running hosepipe through a solar greenhouse type deal . It worked OK, but never got really hot.I should of developed it some more
I'm going to try again using a black 300 gallon Rubbermaid tub from tractor supply.Oh yeah I had a waterfall on my first one by using a small pond from Lowe's
You might think twice about that poly tub, hot water destroys the polymer. You'll end up with black skin, black water and won't want to dump it on the ground.
I enjoyed your clever use of propane and propane accessories. I would like to try this, as this is one of the nine uses of propane I have not experienced firsthand.
Are you Hank Hill undercover?
@@jasonfountainofficial304 I came here to same the same lol 😂
I have a fabulous LP heater made Chofu. Been using it for about 10 yrs. Same idea w/ stock tank except I drilled 2 holes in the tank. The heater thermo syphons (circulates) the water. You just need a paddle to stir it up. Water is filtered through 2 sediment filters. Set it on a round hot tub cover for ground insulation then got 1” rigid insulation and scored it so it could be fitted around the tank. Got some dark green marine upolstery and covered it. Found a used round rigid hot tub lid. Has a timer. Runs about 7 gallons a month in winter (northern Ca). I don’t know if they make it anymore.
Wow you just saved me a whole lot of infrastructure installation.
You should consider a surplus M67 military immersion heater. Military field kitchens use them in standard galvanized steal garbage cans to heat water for cleaning.
We used a caged stock tank heater in my aunt's when we wanted warm. I also saw a coffee maker used for a heater, but I don't remember the video. I gave my broken one to a neighbour who was planning on doing this.
How did it work for your neighbor
Looks epic!. just a suggestion - if you have the hot water go directly into the tub rather than using the shower head the water will be hotter, as you are losing heat from the water when using the shower head as it hits the air and cools a little before hitting the rest of the water in the tub 😊
I was thinking the same thing. I'd also add to this and say make sure the water you are adding is being added at the bottom of the tank since hot water rises if you add it to the top the hottest water is cooling down the fastest.
Ben you're right on time! My husband and I are redoing our backyard and I have DREAMS of a hot tub. I have begun researching our DIY options vs. traditional options. I am excited to see the series as I continue to explore what others have done and the best path moving forward. My husband and I live near Monterey, CA and my biggest hurdle is insulation. I don't want to use a bunch of energy and time to heat the water and maintain temperature. Thanks for sharing your explorations!
1 year later update!
If it were me, I'd hook up my own 12v circulation pump that's sized right for the job and pumps enough water to make the water heater happy- hook up the hoses, adapt them as needed. I would replace the DC battery supply in the water heater with a dc-dc buck converter board (cheap on ebay) and set the output voltage to 3v, that way D batteries are no longer in the equation and the water heater runs now on 12v dc. I'd add an in-line 12vdc digital thermostat (they're cheap on ebay) and run the temp probe sensor into the tub. When desired set temperature is reached, power can be cut from the 12v going to the pump. This stop the heater. When water temp drops, the pump turns back on, heater fires back up, it's self maintained.
It's a propane water heater, the battery is just for the igniter
What about using the drain plug on the tank which is threaded to circulate water back to the heater with some adapters. also they make tank heater that can go in those drain plugs to keep the tank from freezing. figure out how to rewire the heater to exclude the thermostat and presto!
Starting with a knife cut moving blanket to “even out the load” is the first indication to not trust anything after that moment.
I own the whole Joolca system and run it off a Goal Zero Yeti as my main shower and hot water sink in an off grid scenario, using a 150 gal stock tank as a bath tub for occasional soaks. I would not buy it just for use in this type of temporary hot tub set up because of cost. As you say, this is not a long term hot tub solution as letting the unfiltered, untreated water sit in the stock tank would get gross. But if you’ll get use out of the Joolca system while camping, at festivals, for everyday use like my situation, then this is a nice additional way to use it.
Why use a propane water heater? Coil 25 ft of 5/8"black drip line tubing onto a 4x5 sheet of plywood. Attach one end to a 12 volt submersible sump pump available on Amazon. The other end dangels in the tub. The pump is powered by a solar panel from, also from Amazon. Both the recirculation panel and the solar panel could hang from the wooden fence behind the tub. There are 12 volt pumps that can circulate 500 gals per hour depending on the size of the solar panel. 100% eco friendly and no burning of hydrocarbons. Probably cost $250. Never needs service. As soon as the panel catches the sun's rays, the pump starts circulating the water through the black heating coil.
what. if its cold , cloudy out ?
I use a similar set up as yours on some off grid property in SW Missouri . I have the Joolca set up as well and use that for my shower and dish washing - it is a great set up. I made a berm around and underneath the tub using rocks (we have tons of them around here) and a simple mortar mix. This gives it some insulation and on sunny days the rocks heat up
Hello, the recirculation idea does not work - we tried it. The Joolca has a safety feature that cuts off the heater when the output water goes above 124 F. The heater is designed to heat cold water, so once your input is over 80F the heater will get too hot even on the very lowest setting. You're limited to heating the water as you fill the tub, and then soaking until it gets cool.
Thanks for this, Ben! This was my concern with buying this system, as many pumps cannot handle too hot of an input and will shut down to cool off. Appreciate you sharing! Any other ideas to combat this problem?
@@civic2004racer no, you just run the water hot and then soak until it cools. In our 110 gallon tub we can run 110 degree water and soak for well over an hour before it cools too much. If you want to recirculate you’ll probably need a heater designed for hot tubs.
Why not just the bucket warmers for horse buckets? You can throw a few in the hot tub and take them out. They prevent freezing in horse buckets in the winter but they electrically warm the water
I just did a wood hot tub project and used an electric immersion heater to warm it up. I turn it off before I get in (though it's fully earthed of course) and it works great.
what do you mean fully earthed? does that mean you dug a hole and put it in the earth?
@@philodonoghue1019 ground
Im not sure of the pressure needed but adding a sealed through wall interconnect at the bottom of the tub to connect a hose to the propane heater then another hose that connects to a similar through wall connection at the top could be done without a pump. The pressure from gravity pushing on the water may be enough pressure to push it through the heater. If not adding a pump would be just as easy with a cleaner look. Possibly an electric water pump/heater would be better too depending on cost.
As "Chris Nicolsen" said, I'm looking forward to the Cedar Hot Tub Build!
In Mexico the on demand water heater are becoming really popular in homes, that is enough to hear the water of the house
That’s pretty genius . I would just adhere treated cedar planks with stain around outside of tub for aesthetics secured by glue and rope strapping or something. Maybe line the top of tub with thickest cut pool noodles you can find. Still trying to figure out how to filtrate it without having to drill into it and set up yet another contraption. Maybe line the inside with some big rubber sheet just to avoid the uncomfortable aluminum interior
SO, i have created this exact setup, the joolca pump is quite, but so weak that the flame cant go above min and flow rate can only be set at 3 or it shuts off due to low flow, tried the Royobi transfer pump and it doesnt really work much better, unit keeps shutting off due to the temperature inside the unit reaching 122. Any tips im willing to listen as im financially invested!
It will heat MUCH more efficiently if you drop the head directly into the water. If you spray it, the water that reaches the tub will be significantly cooler from it what it is at the nozzle because of evaporative cooling. Which reminds me, you might find some really neat applications for evaporative cooling in your Joshua Tree projects. (Evaporative coolers get pretty manky and gross, but the principle of their operation is fascinating).
Thanks for sharing your ideas. I live in Northland New Zealand in an off grid situation and am looking for easier ways to have an outdoor bath than lighting a fire each time. I can't wait for your updates and the cedar version sounds great! Bravo.
Should wrap a blanket or something around that so it doesn't lose or gain heat so fast.
What I want to see is someone build a concrete above ground tub with inlaid heating tubing in the walls and base. I actually want one for myself.
As cool as that would be or sounds. That is thermally inefficient, Water has a volumetric heat capacity more than twice that of concrete. So heating water in heating tubes to heat concrete to heat water again, would consume and waste way more BTUs than if you just heat the water directly.
some great ideas. thanks for the vid
Gotta love Jess goofing off at the end. Off Grid hot tubs. This is an idea I would have loved when I was 20. Remind me to tell you of the Jacuzzi we built at White Water when I really was 20. Ohhh the stories.
Growing up in Florida I knew people that built hot tubs out of plywood and sealed them with boat paint then used the house water heater to heat the water not a very good way to regulate the tempertures my Dad used to say they were going to boil themselves to death lol I bet a replacement heater for those inflatable hot tubs would be great for your idea
Love all your work. Do you recall heating temps and times on the recirculation?
Hot damn! That tub is bigger than some bedrooms I’ve had in the past 🤣🤣🤣
I like it, but the most fun part of a hot tub are the jets.
any recommendations on a submersible pump that would circulate the hot water to and from the hot water heater?
Interesting build, very plug and play. Looking forward to the Cedar build.
Chris Nicolson, I ment!
Probably late to the party but add a drain+spicket and match the flow of the the intake (warm water) with the ouput of the tub water.
Wonder if you can hook up a small jacuzzi pump and filter so chlorine could be used to sanitize the water. Plus clean it out or debris.
Pretty ingenious.
Or just use a pump to pump the water from the tank back into hot water heater providing a closed loop system instead of using hose water to fill and drain to have hot water.
Thanks for the video. Nice trick to put J in the thumb. Simple build. Would be nice to make a more off grid one. Keep safe and stay well
Well done, can't wait to see the cedar version.
Thanks for the inspiration and keep on trucking!
“Pick up and human hair, gunk” human hair is the least bad thing I’d be concerned about finding in a hot tub.
The rubber seal paste along the side of the tub releases toxins when warmed up.? Please some1 correct me.if im wrong? Thanks
What size is the stock tank? and where did you purchase it?
I may have missed it but how hot were you able to get the water in the tub?
wow i.ve been subscribed for a while now and this hot tap really caught my attention now i know i can get hot water if the gas company turns my gas off during the pandemic
Do you have a link for the fiting you needed from hose to water heater?
I have been in one of these stock tanks that was a hot tub by digging a small hole at one end in the dirt and building a small fire. Three hours later, hot water.
HomeM...390 gallon stock tank..Gotcha. Can I get one at Home Depot or only at Feed Stores or what? !! Awesome...it looks pretty easy to put together. The propane water heater is easily available from Home Depot also?
Good luck getting that water warm enough for a quick bath. By the time you finish filling it with a few inches of water, it will be mostly cold already.
Nice little off grid style hot tub 🛀 Looking forward to the version 2.0
If I buy this, how often should I.drain or what to add to.avoid microbes?
Might be fun to play with for an afternoon... but without any kind of water filtration that thing is going to be green and slimy by the end of the week or even a breeding ground for mosquitos.
Tank can also be utilized as a deep dish pizza pan
Hello! How much gas would you say is used heating this up? I have all my supplies and intend to build this weekend but no one has ever talked about the gas consumption. How soon could I expect to have to get a new tank? Note: I do have a pool filter and pump
So what did you learn about propane usage?
You could totally use a solar concentrator to heat the water instead.
you cannot use a Joola for this set up it won't work! It has an internal temperature governor that initiates the safety to shut off the Joola when warm water is pulled into it. So you cannot recirculate this. Camplux will work .
Soooo cool. I would like to make a "Kneipp" bath soon.
What do you think of painting the tub with thermoshield paint?
I've been trying to make a cheap hot tub for years but was stuck. THANK YOU for this vid. I didn't know those little water heaters existed.
@ben, how much propane did it take to heat the tub? How long does a $20 tank last? And how long did it take to fill and heat?
I modified my joolca so it didnt auto cut off at 50 degrees and you can recirculate. It adds about 20 to 30 degrees C onto any water going in. So if you want 45 degree water it will start auto cutting when you get to about 42.
Hi! How did you modify your joolca? Mine does not make my tub hot enough as it cuts off too soon. Thanks
@@venessa7470 hi venessa little bit involved have to open it up etc. If you can see yourself doing that let me know and ill talk you through it
@@driftke70 thanks 😊
@@driftke70 I am interested in the process you used to achieve this if you’re willing to send me a breakdown. Much appreciated!
@@adammuldoon6074 i opened it up and moved the temp sensor on the outlet pipe to the inlet pipe from memory
fill the tub, then resurculation until it reaches the temp you desire
This guys used cement board as a fire barrier for a contained system a foot off the deck, while overlanders are putting the same thing in a plastic box with an inch of clearance on the sides lol
The video is great ads or not. The comment section gave additional info that is very helpful
Perfect
Nice i love it thanks
Congrats: You invented the bath.
Could anyone explain to me how adding a battery for the igniter which could be made to work without any extra power source (like on a propane grille or old water heater) is an innovation that makes it more off-the-grid friendly?
You don't need a water pump to circulate the water in the tub as the hot water produced by the gas heater will circulate the water by itself through convection.
Great add.
Subscribed because of this video - and looking forward to your projects!
Why not just put a cheap propane burner under the tub. Or a fire. Ideally a rocket burner system. Heat water directly, skip all the hoses and pumping and filtering.
Dayna T lol. Burn
Boiled people.
I legit thought of that, then I realized I saw it in cartoons while growing up and it might not be the best idea 😂
i think its a good idea to put a stove under it to warm water!!
Excellent video. Can we make a cold water tub just like this one reversing the temperature and taking it to 13 to 18 degrees Celsius.?
Nice idea, do you think this can be done inside, with a drain hose some how?
I love Joshua tree!!!!
Woo Great
Galvanize rust?
OK I love this transfer pump idea! How much propane does it take to say heat that whole tub? Probably way cheaper than electric which my friends have and their bill was.....scary haha. Ive watched your other videos with the wood fire hot tub and Ive had the pleasure of using one once (even cutting my own wood) and I was SO surprised by how good it worked! They had a ironcast stove that was submerged partially underwater with an exhaust pipe coming out. I thought it was so wacky that it was under the water but....amazing results!
Love it, Ben! Nice work. Can’t wait to see your cedar tub project!
Camp chef has a water heater like the one you use
I love it. Such a great and simple idea.
Nearly 1/3 of this video was the sponsor... im out
You never heard of fast-forward? Jeez, haha.
@@yellowburgereven worse…watching this whole video when:
Inflatable hot tubs with jets are $300 or less if you get them used
This video is the same as getting in a bathtub.
Or run a hose to your water line for your washing machine..but a $30 submersible heater for when your hot water heater runs out. A lot better than buying a propane tank and likely a water heater that costs half as much as an inflatable hot tub.
All of that and I didn’t throw one sponsor in there
@@chris_michael_s I'd be terrified of one of those submersible heaters though.
Thanks for the warning I’m out before it started
What if you were to put a smaller metal tub inside of a larger tub and insulate between the two....
joolca now has a battery pack for the pump
Yes this would great for burning man!
haaaa...I would bet money that anybody who says that this would be great at burning man....has never been.
@@jonathanrossi2135 hahahaha what a recommendation
You need to get one of these out to your sisters house so she can work out doors and cool off. It's been to hot she say's to clean her yard.
Life hack: just use your bathtub and toaster.
Can you please tell me the size of this?
Buried in the ground you'd have the absolute best insulation you could ask for..
But can you travel through time as well?
This video is great I am gonna try it in my backyard. I wish you could bring a hot tub to burning man but sadly it’s against the rules. Would be great for a shower there tho
Thank you for the link for Zyro! I’m having to start up a website for my channel….
This such an awesome idea!! But to save a lot of time and money and have a portable option you might as well just buy a portable hot tub