The 90s Comic Book Garbage that inspired Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. LMDs - Comic Tropes (Episode 39)

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • The Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. tv show is using robot duplicates called LMDs - Life Model Decoys. I went in search of a comic book that used a lot of LMDs and came across a mid-90s comic book that highlights the worst of 90s excess. Poor plotting, bad art, gimmick covers and killing off major characters. This issue has it all.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 135

  • @spandytube
    @spandytube 5 років тому +118

    If Cosbytron offers you a drink get the hell out of there

    • @TheDing1701
      @TheDing1701 3 роки тому +2

      Or if he asks you if you wanna see his pudding pop...

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor940 6 років тому +38

    Now if you want to see a "GOOD" use of LMD's and a gripping SHIELD story, hunt down the 80's "Nick Fury vs SHIELD" miniseries.

    • @woongah
      @woongah 4 роки тому +1

      I second the suggestion.

  • @theomegajuice8660
    @theomegajuice8660 6 років тому +116

    The Crosbytron gag hasn't aged well.

    • @hermeus5239
      @hermeus5239 5 років тому +11

      Could be worse it could have made the robot rape joke.

    • @HetLedie
      @HetLedie 5 років тому +8

      @@hermeus5239 I stilll think that shits funny

    • @CougarLeonII
      @CougarLeonII 4 роки тому +2

      I was just about to say the same thing.

    • @HetLedie
      @HetLedie 3 роки тому +1

      I think this video's script was written before Cosby's activities became public knowledge

    • @davidbeck7615
      @davidbeck7615 2 роки тому +1

      Cosbytron is hilarious!

  • @Regitron3000
    @Regitron3000 7 років тому +15

    Oh 90's comics...the era of over indulgence, where spectacle was prized over substance. Every male character ripped to the max like Mr. Universe competitors, and every female character with the inhuman proportions of a barbie doll. And the plethora of Pouches, crosshatching, over-sized sci-fi guns and nonsensical plots!
    You really did find quite the perfect exemplar of that decade. Great vid!

  • @HCC788
    @HCC788 7 років тому +38

    OMG the nineties. The 90s are so painful to me because there was so much potential that was squandered. There was some legitimate art talent on display. The look of comics was being revolutionized. In the early 90s, I think the right people were in the right places. I loved Jim Lee on X-Men (and it still seems unnatural for him to be working at DC). Todd McFarlane's style worked pretty good for Spider-Man. Then, everybody started to see dollar signs. Instead of hiring artists with good fundamentals and unique styles, we got less talented artists who copied popular styles. We had gimmick covers. We had events that were really non-events. We had speculators. All this was encouraged by the suits who seemed to think there would be endless profits forever.
    It was a dark time. And unlike the 1950s and the advent of the Comics Code, it was a dark time that the industry brought upon itself.
    On the up side, at the time I picked up a few independent comics, and I started to follow Sin City. That kept me a around a little while longer.

    • @Regitron3000
      @Regitron3000 7 років тому +8

      As much as I disliked the storylines at the time, I really did love Todd McFarlane's art on Spiderman. His gritty, over detailed style just really fit the comic well.

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  7 років тому +12

      I was a massive fan of all of the Image founders at the time. Just huge. Their influence was so strong it drowned out a lot of other stuff. Took me a while to really appreciate some of their contemporaries.
      Remember the issue of G.I. Joe that McFarlane drew? Chuckles and Zanzibar, I believe.

  • @tolfan4438
    @tolfan4438 5 років тому +20

    Sergeant Fury's Howling Commandos would have had this whole thing sorted out in less than one issue

  • @sekdl7516
    @sekdl7516 7 років тому +28

    LOLOL CosbyTron totally caught me off guard! :D

  • @woongah
    @woongah 4 роки тому +3

    In the late 90s, too many comics publishers - and authors - forgot the Iron Law of Pulp:
    "The story is more important [worth] than the paper".

  • @tetsujin_144
    @tetsujin_144 5 років тому +20

    13:49 - Should have been a CosbyTron line

  • @gazz_N7
    @gazz_N7 6 років тому +5

    This was indeed a painful time in Marvel comics. A better outcome for the Punisher would have been after killing the "LMD" Fury, that SHIELD would have used him in Suicide Squad manner. That would have been pretty damn cool I think.

  • @RighteousBrother
    @RighteousBrother 6 років тому +8

    Would love it, if robots like that started gathering round mine. Hated the 90's for comics - but this review has ensured that I just HAVE to pick up this comic.

  • @qrissy3742
    @qrissy3742 7 років тому +23

    wow that's some bad art. but i like the drawing of Patrick Swayzee on the bottom of the page at 11:52. Also I heart the robots!

  • @smileyp4535
    @smileyp4535 2 роки тому +2

    Uh oh keep Cosby tron away from the boiler and whistletron 😳

  • @SylentEcho
    @SylentEcho 4 роки тому +3

    I miss those holofoil covers! They should still release one or two a year, IMO.

  • @Rometiklan
    @Rometiklan 7 років тому +2

    Keep the bots. Another great stroll down memory lane. When I was immersed in it as a kid in the 90s, it all seemed so awesome. But looking back, it was really indicative of everything that was wrong with the industry. Greed and speculation were overshadowing story and art. The comicbooks themselves were becoming freakish Frankenstein's monsters with multiple covers, holograms, and polybagged shit. Anywhoo, keep the vids coming. Having a blast going through your old vids!

  • @barrivia
    @barrivia 6 років тому +2

    All I could think about at the end with that shootup was that SNL ‘Dear Sister’ sketch 😂

  • @HeIsTheBluesCat
    @HeIsTheBluesCat Рік тому

    This episode pretty much "bot" me over!
    Seeing CT hangout out with a bunch of robots while looking at another silly 90s superhero comic is nothing short of fun.

  • @HCC788
    @HCC788 7 років тому +14

    LMD=Lorchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark.

  • @DamonCzanik
    @DamonCzanik 4 роки тому +1

    Am I too late for the comments? Sorry CosbyTron gave me a drink, and I just woke up. The 90s had spectacular leaps in technology. It was like the leap to HD. That gave the artists some amazing tools. The amazing artists were dragged down with some of the same bad writing with added dark grittiness... because 90s. I bought too many worthless #1 issues because who knew what was going to be the next Superman! If the adults were doing it surely it was a great idea!

  • @georgetinker1292
    @georgetinker1292 5 років тому +7

    You're like a comic book Alton Brown!!

  • @RobotsPajamas
    @RobotsPajamas 7 років тому +20

    I liked Daredevil's armor. :(

  • @mjjjhaney1
    @mjjjhaney1 6 років тому +3

    Cosby-Tron, lol!! Nicely played, sir.

  • @jimmyju76
    @jimmyju76 5 років тому +1

    Fury will never run out of LMD's, hell i bet the Fury on the moon is really an LMD

  • @Ostnizdasht206
    @Ostnizdasht206 5 років тому +4

    Anxietytron is my favorite.

  • @irongiant775
    @irongiant775 6 років тому +1

    The moment that I knew that this was inked by Jimmy Palmiotti: The words “Ash” and “22 Brides” graffitied on a random building. 90’s ahoy!

  • @operationgoldfish8331
    @operationgoldfish8331 4 роки тому +1

    The absolutely best LMD story is collected in the 1980s trade paperback 'Nick Fury vs SHIELD'.
    I can't say much about it because of spoilers but it's a superb Sci Fi story, comparable to 'They Live' and the Pod People.
    Also, what on earth happened to Nick Fury (and Cpt America) being semi-immortal due to exposure to the super-soldier formula?

  • @mattlerch531
    @mattlerch531 7 років тому +2

    The whole LMD in Agents of Shield feels like Marvels atempt at the Jocasta story arc. i'm sure others have stated the same thing. I missed out on all the 90's comics, the fairer sex had caught my eye by then.

  • @LQuatorze
    @LQuatorze 6 років тому +3

    I dont get one thing about the 90's crisis. Speculators have pumped sales to the EXTREME level. Than it collapsed.
    But why didn't it just come back to the normal level? Marvel ad DC should have had lot's of money aggregated after super sales.
    Why were they at the level of bankrupcy?

    • @shabeki
      @shabeki 4 роки тому +1

      Ron Perelman was looting money from Marvel while he owned it.

  • @markodjuric4282
    @markodjuric4282 4 роки тому +1

    What a great episode of comic tropes! Lobed the infotron familly

  • @kamaazphilpot2746
    @kamaazphilpot2746 7 років тому +27

    the robots messing up the flow of the content just my opinion tho

  • @VorpalDerringer
    @VorpalDerringer 7 років тому +5

    15:06 Is that...a TEC-9...with an infrared scope on it? And wait, how does he see the scope glint, the suns just coming up... Also I'd like to point out that using random commercial tie-in like Grape Nuts Tron also seems like a 90's reference--remember Comboman from Marvel? Trope-Ception...?

  • @willgillies5670
    @willgillies5670 6 років тому +3

    I actually liked Daredevils armor, maybe im the only one but meh.

  • @Lariat_V
    @Lariat_V 3 роки тому +1

    So no one is gonna talk about how in the episode infotron is introduced he states the water heater is his cousin?

  • @Ryan-px8mq
    @Ryan-px8mq 4 роки тому

    Everyone at the family reunion should watch their drinks if Cosbytron is there there is gonna be a lot of sleepy robots

  • @MrIvanisawesome
    @MrIvanisawesome 5 років тому +2

    Cosbytron just killed me!! :)

  • @TheStereotypeA
    @TheStereotypeA 2 роки тому

    I'm glad we don't hear too much from Infotron these days...that was rough.

  • @ryanbenson4610
    @ryanbenson4610 Місяць тому

    Hahaha this episode is great! How did I miss it before! Love it.

  • @TeatroGrotesco
    @TeatroGrotesco 4 роки тому +1

    Comic Tropes: Age of InfoTron!!!

  • @ryanbenson4610
    @ryanbenson4610 Місяць тому

    Flying battleship? The Giant Claw!!!

  • @markukeley2924
    @markukeley2924 4 роки тому

    Dude, crazy mad number of robots you got there--you put Dr. Who to shame! LOL.

  • @willgillies5670
    @willgillies5670 6 років тому +2

    AND OF COURSE: DUM DUM DUGGAN was an LMD the whoooooole time LOL

  • @wessmith6367
    @wessmith6367 6 років тому

    I’d say that even worse example would be the Spider-Man “Maximum Clonage” books. Which also guest-starred The Punisher, as I recall.

  • @mahfuzahmed971
    @mahfuzahmed971 2 роки тому

    Dude I love your Channel so much. Bring infotron back pls!!!!

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 7 років тому +6

    Question I am Just wondering if you can cover clone conspiracy since that story uses way so many tropes that it ain't even funny

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  7 років тому +3

      Yes, it's absolutely something I will cover but I also have the calendar booked pretty solid for a few months so it may be a while.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 7 років тому +1

      okay take your time man no rush

  • @EskimoCreamKing
    @EskimoCreamKing 5 років тому

    That Garth Ennis Steve Dillon Punisher is so damn good

  • @mikethegrunty5968
    @mikethegrunty5968 5 років тому +1

    5:40 flying battleship... so shield headquarters is the giant claw?

  • @TheArchersTungsten
    @TheArchersTungsten 5 років тому +2

    I wonder how Infotron is doing haven't seen him in a while

  • @jimgillespie6109
    @jimgillespie6109 2 роки тому

    I just discovered this video... five years late. First, I wouldn't call the art "subpar." It's stylized and over-the-top (especially with all the male characters' bodies), but the only part of it that seems subpar is the storytelling. And why complain about Val's unique suit when "DOO-gan" had been wearing a derby with his uniform for decades?

  • @ponrix
    @ponrix 3 роки тому

    Lol. At 1:15 hes talking about 90s garbage and has a shiny metal cover. That is 100% 90s right there.

  • @damianmonke3922
    @damianmonke3922 Місяць тому

    We need infotron to return! It’s been so many years

  • @adamandava6emeryandemery18
    @adamandava6emeryandemery18 5 років тому

    Yikes. Cosbytron? Hope you kept an eye on your drinks.
    Great job with the slide whistle though.

    • @adamandava6emeryandemery18
      @adamandava6emeryandemery18 5 років тому

      PS. Cosbytron might be able to help with that water heater date.
      And yes, I know I’m like 2 years late on this video.

  • @tssteelx
    @tssteelx 4 роки тому

    Wasn't the a book called something like live wire in the 2000 that was about lmd's?

  • @jamesgreen8648
    @jamesgreen8648 6 років тому

    I actually enjoyed 90s comics. There may be some bad ones, for example, the one you used in the video, but there are goods ones too. Some examples of good 90s comics include Jim Lee's X-Men, Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man, and Rob Liefeld's New Mutants / X-Force.

  • @scratchd0g
    @scratchd0g 2 роки тому

    I need to find a comic channel who isn't scared to actually read comics!

  • @IlyaKralinsky
    @IlyaKralinsky 6 років тому

    Special Guest Star: Fuck-bot 5000!

  • @Ektalon
    @Ektalon 6 років тому +1

    That was . . . surreal.

  • @frabbydingo12
    @frabbydingo12 5 років тому

    holy crap im addicted. Great videos brother

  • @patrickowens4294
    @patrickowens4294 6 років тому +1

    Someone has seen 'House of Cosbys', Theo!

  • @Glassandcandy
    @Glassandcandy 4 роки тому

    Oh god keep Cosbytron away from the water heater!!!

  • @LurkingCrassZero
    @LurkingCrassZero 4 роки тому

    This shit is why I stopped reading comics. The art is bad, the art style is bad, the plotlines are terrible as is the dialogue. I read the occasional graphic novel now, and most of them are not superhero stories. Superheores really are shit, daft tbh, and this era hammered it home for me.

  • @wendigo1619
    @wendigo1619 4 роки тому

    The Punisher won't kill other SHIELD agents? he'll kill anyone that shoots at him

  • @HovektheArtist
    @HovektheArtist 5 років тому +1

    Is it just me or are half the infotrons having framerate issues

  • @edouardbail9741
    @edouardbail9741 6 років тому +1

    The SFX in this video are seamless! :-D but honestly, i read the over the edge crossover, and i never read the conclusion: i just saw the funeral episode in Hulk. Thanks for the info.

  • @stueygriffith4671
    @stueygriffith4671 5 років тому

    11:08 Nick just doesn't have a hotel Suite on the helicarrrier.... he has a suite from the BUNNY RANCH in Nevada. OUTSIDE Las Vegas. 😉

  • @BitterBatter
    @BitterBatter 2 роки тому +1

    I dunno about this Cosby-Tron guy, I get some bad vibes from him...

  • @lablueguy2000
    @lablueguy2000 6 років тому

    i fucking loved and hated my time collecting comics in the nineties. i was a Marvel zombie and xmen was god. 10 titles a month surely made a big dent in my wallet. WHEW!! but then image came along to ruin it by making clones of the popular mutants and claiming it their own. surely their art and coloring were awesome but every time i decide to read their comics i could always notice bits of pieces of Gambit, Storm, Prof. Xavier and most of all WOLVERINE in their characters. SHEEESSH!!!.

  • @marvelmite1
    @marvelmite1 4 роки тому

    I honestly thought that trenched thug was the 90s version of Johnny Blaze

  • @aiwaloki
    @aiwaloki 4 роки тому

    They forgot to include Wolverine into the mix..

  • @mrmanju6989
    @mrmanju6989 3 роки тому

    the Blonde guy Samson looks like the guy from Comix Zone, the Sega Genesis/MegaDrive game. retty uncanny

  • @robertenyart9883
    @robertenyart9883 6 років тому

    Marvel has no idea what to do with either Punisher or Nick Fury. I'm waiting for another reboot of the Marvel Universe. Leave the Cinematic Universe separate.

  • @redskinStu
    @redskinStu 6 років тому

    They should have given Daredevil a single glowing energy eye.

  • @louisalectube
    @louisalectube 6 років тому

    I like that Daredevil armor (rolling my eyes)

  • @finsoto
    @finsoto 7 років тому +3

    I can't draw better this, but this art is crappy af. Good Vid. Robots,..eh, good cosb impression though.

  • @strawhataddison
    @strawhataddison 6 років тому

    LMDs are the absolute worst. Just like you said, a crutch for lazy writers.

  • @EndPoliticalCorruption
    @EndPoliticalCorruption 6 років тому +1

    This ep really needs subtitles.

  • @dwalta7
    @dwalta7 6 років тому

    Ohhhhhhhh the 90s. So much comic booking.

  • @devinweathers7520
    @devinweathers7520 5 років тому

    Sweet jibus infotron crashing the episode

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 7 років тому +12

    Your robots are funny

  • @purpleperfection6304
    @purpleperfection6304 2 роки тому

    Bring back Anxiety-Tron!!!

  • @kylecarter1599
    @kylecarter1599 Рік тому

    Cosby-tron might be the best part of this video

  • @brennodamicogermani5016
    @brennodamicogermani5016 4 роки тому

    I love Cosbytron voice

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 6 років тому

    i like to think agents of shield doesnt know this comic exists
    or ignores it completely

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  6 років тому

      I'm sure they've never heard of it. And that's ok.

    • @attackofthecopyrightbots
      @attackofthecopyrightbots 6 років тому

      yeah im glad theyve never seen it sounds awful would be great to wipe it from the history books haha

  • @1neinate0
    @1neinate0 2 роки тому

    Is it a UA-cam comic reviewer trope to have aluminum foil robots 🤖?

  • @Quiro26
    @Quiro26 7 років тому +2

    I can't remember a good 90s comic book storyline.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 7 років тому +1

      Francisco Mictil the only good comic book storyline in the 90s was spawn and asm issue 400

    • @johnathanclark79
      @johnathanclark79 7 років тому +1

      Age of Apocalypse, Onslaught, Kevin Smith run on Daredevil.

    • @zackcollins3637
      @zackcollins3637 6 років тому

      Man Without Fear and The Death of Superman

    • @purplevillager8801
      @purplevillager8801 6 років тому

      zack collins the death of Superman is, actually fucking stupid. Since anybody dead comes back, and the whole thing is just... superman dies, bleh.

  • @King_Hyperion89
    @King_Hyperion89 7 років тому +2

    The first time I saw a LMD in a book was Captain America Avengers Disassembled TPB. I liked the LMDs in the Avengers/Invaders book.

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  7 років тому +1

      They've absolutely been well used before.

  • @ArticulatedDoom
    @ArticulatedDoom 5 років тому

    I know this is old but Jake was Nick's brother not son

  • @JordyAbsurd
    @JordyAbsurd Рік тому

    You lost me at Cosby tron...

  • @edwarddillon5886
    @edwarddillon5886 5 років тому

    Are some of the robots ghosts?

  • @LegionofComics
    @LegionofComics 4 роки тому

    Cosbytron. . . . .lol

  • @Aquatarkus96
    @Aquatarkus96 4 роки тому

    Doc Samson= Brock Samson

  • @comixamples524
    @comixamples524 4 роки тому

    Due-Gen.

  • @buttersstotch2014
    @buttersstotch2014 4 роки тому

    House of Cosby’s

  • @WiiFan20XX
    @WiiFan20XX 6 років тому

    man cosby tron didn't age well

    • @GargusSCP
      @GargusSCP 6 років тому

      Cosby Tron was a terrible idea even when he uploaded this.

  • @HetLedie
    @HetLedie 6 років тому +1

    dum dum duegan

  • @shawnsweeting3108
    @shawnsweeting3108 5 років тому

    Lmao cosby-tron

  • @moe3235
    @moe3235 2 роки тому

    Tromic copes

  • @emanym
    @emanym 6 років тому

    I enjoyed the angel story line. I thought it was an intriguing new take on the character.

  • @caballerosalas
    @caballerosalas 7 років тому +8

    please, stop using those awful robots

    • @ComicTropes
      @ComicTropes  7 років тому +2

      Alejandro Caballero Salas Ouch.

    • @HetLedie
      @HetLedie 6 років тому +3

      Infotron forever. How about an episode where the infotrons fight each other comedically

    • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
      @diegodankquixote-wry3242 6 років тому +1

      More robots please. 😶👌

    • @Rometiklan
      @Rometiklan 6 років тому +1

      Keep Infotron, Chris. He's awesome. He's become, ironically, a trope, in a channel about tropes.

    • @TheArchersTungsten
      @TheArchersTungsten 5 років тому +1

      Those robots are hilarious

  • @nohomers100
    @nohomers100 6 років тому +2

    I don’t see how comics today are any better

  • @markmagician2471
    @markmagician2471 2 роки тому

    You say Punisher is a murder I'd say hero