Ranking Every HAND CANNON in a Tier List

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  • @SayWallahBruh
    @SayWallahBruh  7 місяців тому +23

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    • @ANIronhide8
      @ANIronhide8 7 місяців тому

      SMG tier list when? 👀

    • @nittani.
      @nittani. 7 місяців тому

      but walah i use the seventh seraph handcannon it just feels good

    • @drewmasterson7600
      @drewmasterson7600 7 місяців тому

      Palindrome Adept in my opinion is s tier i didn’t see that one on the list

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

    • @whiterspon573
      @whiterspon573 2 місяці тому

      yeah check this trash pc build and you get Malware Gratis really nice behavior on your side and no thank you i have my monster pc :(

  • @TravisLally
    @TravisLally 3 місяці тому +50

    “Ranking every hand cannon from lowest to highest range stat”.

  • @Forcer69
    @Forcer69 7 місяців тому +850

    Number 1, Cry Mutiny. Since it’s a cannon you can hold in your hand.

    • @Yasser2k6
      @Yasser2k6 7 місяців тому +22

      The nade launcher😂😂😂

    • @itzRoman5000
      @itzRoman5000 7 місяців тому +26

      number 2, telesto

    • @VAVORiAL
      @VAVORiAL 7 місяців тому +5

      funny funny

    • @naiko8412
      @naiko8412 7 місяців тому +7

      I support this message

    • @MrSeagallo
      @MrSeagallo 7 місяців тому +7

      Can't argue with the logic

  • @JH-vb1wo
    @JH-vb1wo 7 місяців тому +213

    A lot of hand cannons make or break it by the way it looks when your in combat. Some hand cannons have good stats but if it’s clunky and ugly to shoot it’s a waste of time imo. I think adept pali is still to this day the best looking and feeling hand cannon like I can see everything clearly and the combo of killing wind rangefinder was legendary and I really think bungie will bring it back one day

    • @DaHammerOfGod
      @DaHammerOfGod 7 місяців тому +9

      The Adept Pali is due to come back soon I think. Hoping it's one of the guns coming back into the rotation. Need keep away on that gun

    • @MusMasi
      @MusMasi 7 місяців тому +14

      too bad they nerfed quickdraw and range finder so my god roll is useless.

    • @DaHammerOfGod
      @DaHammerOfGod 7 місяців тому +2

      @@MusMasi that hurts

    • @kenzilbaptiste2519
      @kenzilbaptiste2519 7 місяців тому

      @@DaHammerOfGod it does not need keep away ..it doesn't have poor range or poor reload

    • @kenzilbaptiste2519
      @kenzilbaptiste2519 7 місяців тому

      you didnt loose anything ..

  • @superdarroch
    @superdarroch 7 місяців тому +131

    Thorn will definitely be next season meta. It can 2crit1body 6 resil and with perk up can 2 crit 6 resil. Catalyst is going to make it a real menace.

    • @Pizzabros223
      @Pizzabros223 7 місяців тому +3

      Did you hear about it getting a buff letting you overflow it with its exotic perk too up too 40 rounds? That’s 40, poisoning rounds, in a 96 impact hand cannon, without the catalyst!

    • @colewilliams2906
      @colewilliams2906 7 місяців тому

      the will not matter much in pvp, but it will certainly be nice in pve, especially after the osteo nerf@@Pizzabros223

    • @dennismadrid5146
      @dennismadrid5146 7 місяців тому +5

      @@Pizzabros223that’s probably when you get a LOT of remnants. Your probably not going to get 40 easily unless you pve and use nectrotic grips

    • @Wad3y
      @Wad3y 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Pizzabros223that might be only for pve not sure tho

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

  • @ChaoticD3sTroYeR
    @ChaoticD3sTroYeR 7 місяців тому +115

    I saw the thumbnail and was about to say "Ace of spades is way too low", but seeing the true tier list, great. It's where it should be, cause it's not only significant lore wise, it's a GREAT HC overall.

    • @SayWallahBruh
      @SayWallahBruh  7 місяців тому +25

      Haha sorry I didn’t wanna put all the hand cannons s tier on the thumbnail! Hope you enjoyed the video babe

    • @sansz
      @sansz 7 місяців тому +1

      @@SayWallahBruh nice video bro

    • @sansz
      @sansz 7 місяців тому +4

      @@SayWallahBruh I'm out of the game, what is that ornament on the ace of spades?

    • @tmack8464
      @tmack8464 7 місяців тому

      @@sanszexactly what I was wondering

    • @williammaclean6173
      @williammaclean6173 7 місяців тому

      That lo oked like something straight outta the crafting glitch. Like DMT crafted into an Ace. Somehow?

  • @barelyfunctional1693
    @barelyfunctional1693 7 місяців тому +27

    Kept confidence looks so mid on paper, but feels so buttery smooth to use

  • @tnlerr
    @tnlerr 7 місяців тому +21

    i personally have used igneous a lot (both old and new) and the new one has a consistent recoil pattern and doesn’t kick around randomly, something small that makes it better than the old one, imo

    • @aliscripture9334
      @aliscripture9334 6 місяців тому +1

      There’s a new igneous hammer? What do you mean? I just returned to Destiny after half a year so I don’t understand

    • @tnlerr
      @tnlerr 6 місяців тому

      yes, same name and 120rpm hc, but has new perks and some of the stats change because of it, i personally notice a huge difference in deterministic recoil and prefer the new one @@aliscripture9334

  • @Denik08
    @Denik08 7 місяців тому +5

    Never really considered Sturm because I just always assumed you needed Drang to make it worth anything, but after watching this, I paired it with a shotty and holy crap. This thing slaps!

  • @zhongthekong
    @zhongthekong 7 місяців тому +3

    Something important on 140 hand cannons that I don’t hear too many people talk about is recoil direction. To me, it’s why dire promise, zaouli’s bane, and cantata don’t feel as good as you would think they should.

  • @JasonPTA
    @JasonPTA 7 місяців тому +1

    Nice
    Was looking for an updated HC video

  • @ANIronhide8
    @ANIronhide8 7 місяців тому +28

    I'll admit I got a soft spot for ancient gospel, I have a slideshot Rangefinder roll that still slaps but unfortunately the garden weapons are powercrept to hell

    • @quaxx4042
      @quaxx4042 7 місяців тому +2

      Don't worry mate, we'll get the chance to craft those weapons in a near future...

    • @LaLloronaVT
      @LaLloronaVT 7 місяців тому +2

      @@quaxx4042I really hope we can craft prophet of doom to be matador 2.0, a craftable matador clone god I’d kill for that

    • @alter6243
      @alter6243 7 місяців тому +1

      @@quaxx4042Crafting those weapons also requires grinding Garden of Salvation…

    • @quaxx4042
      @quaxx4042 7 місяців тому

      I mean, if u don't like GoS I'll respect it but I actually enjoy the raid@@alter6243

    • @quaxx4042
      @quaxx4042 7 місяців тому +1

      I also want prophet of doom to be craftable, but I don't think that bunige will put absolute godroll perks on that shotgun sadly@@LaLloronaVT

  • @advicescorner3175
    @advicescorner3175 7 місяців тому +12

    I really hope that Bungie would bring back Palindrome next season or two. That's definitely in my top 3 most loved HCs ever (alongside OG Igneous and Hawkmoon).

    • @KillMeForReal
      @KillMeForReal 7 місяців тому +1

      Respect for using Hawkmoon

    • @4kum41986
      @4kum41986 7 місяців тому

      THE handcannon

  • @jek7828
    @jek7828 7 місяців тому +90

    Day 563: GoldExgle 1v1

    • @sage.697
      @sage.697 7 місяців тому +3

      It prob ain’t ever gonna happen bro

    • @GoeDiPro
      @GoeDiPro 7 місяців тому

      Chato pra caralho hein

    • @Olc-ui8fk
      @Olc-ui8fk 7 місяців тому +8

      Wallah Scurred bro

    • @marcusb553
      @marcusb553 7 місяців тому +2

      You should be making this post to gold he declined wallah twice 😂

    • @TheMaxxter
      @TheMaxxter 7 місяців тому +1

      Keep doing it bro, it will eventually happen
      (Wallah you better do what this man wants this is true commitment)

  • @nocturne4051
    @nocturne4051 7 місяців тому +31

    When rose can be focused I will spend an unholy amount of hours farming for it

    • @mariasoderlund3162
      @mariasoderlund3162 7 місяців тому +2

      I think it is next season

    • @di11onm1nkgaming
      @di11onm1nkgaming 7 місяців тому

      @@mariasoderlund3162it is next season

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

    • @houstonSolo
      @houstonSolo 6 місяців тому

      @@revenge750 because it’s a video game, cheaters in every single semi competitive video game. Destiny is actually better than a lot of other games imo

    • @korbin0717
      @korbin0717 4 місяці тому

      ​@@houstonSolo yea, I'm not a big crucible player, but I've been playing consistently for a while, an I don't think I've come across any cheaters, just people unnecessarily good at the game

  • @Sazanka17_
    @Sazanka17_ 7 місяців тому +7

    You should do this for all weapon types down the line

  • @thedresrosa
    @thedresrosa 7 місяців тому +3

    As a 180 rpm fan. Crota and Trust are the best for the energy and epitaph(but a very specific roll) for kinetic. Those 3 are the only ones i'd say are worth it. (Honorable mention is a crafted Ikelos with rampage\tricorn paired with radiant it's very crispy imo)

  • @ItsJustKas
    @ItsJustKas 7 місяців тому

    Been waiting for someone to do a good one of these. Glad it was you.

  • @autismoprime
    @autismoprime 7 місяців тому +21

    Gary the type of guy to hire an escort and ask if she’s in it for the money 💸🐿

    • @SayWallahBruh
      @SayWallahBruh  7 місяців тому +7

      LMAO

    • @VAVORiAL
      @VAVORiAL 7 місяців тому

      Ayo, Gary deserves better, smh

    • @naiveveg8447
      @naiveveg8447 7 місяців тому

      Hey she could be doing freebies

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

  • @stelthstriker7867
    @stelthstriker7867 7 місяців тому +8

    the fact that kept confidence and eyasluna/austringer are in the same tier just destroys any faith I could have ever had in this tier list. I don't know why people would look to you for hand cannon recommendations if this what they're getting.

  • @angelotomasi9413
    @angelotomasi9413 7 місяців тому +8

    Frontier’s Cry with a reload perk and kill clip is actually one of my favorite weapons to pull out when I’m playing iron banner. Works great in a team shot environment. I use one with compulsive reloader for the insane reload speed up to 9 rounds I believe

  • @S3N_Gaming
    @S3N_Gaming 7 місяців тому +15

    to save everyone some time. He puts all 180s in D or F so just skip to 5:54 for the real tier list to start.

  • @topesimoes
    @topesimoes 7 місяців тому +1

    15:25 i completely understand your opinion on Dire Promise (i cried when Rangefinder nerfed and my beloved Fastdraw HCS/ Hitmark HCD + HighCal + Opening Shot + Rangefinder was murdered)

  • @HCBWx3
    @HCBWx3 7 місяців тому +12

    Vulp with Killing Wind and Adagio lets it become a 150 with close to 40m of range with nice stats after a kill. in 6s its pretty good at chaining. For me it's probably the best 180, with maybe Posterity coming in close

  • @r3hab743
    @r3hab743 7 місяців тому +1

    Whenever you make these tier list I always gotta remember you're making this list in terms of pvp not overall cause i was thinking Malfeasance and seventh sereath (can't spell) is really good in pve but I stopped myself

  • @skycloud4568
    @skycloud4568 7 місяців тому +6

    wtf is your ace of spades ornament

  • @dylanlasky2389
    @dylanlasky2389 7 місяців тому +4

    Idk what it is but I looooove DFA. It's similar to dire promise for me. The sights are the best on any handcannon.

  • @burgscratch6301
    @burgscratch6301 7 місяців тому +5

    The only hand cannon that's won me over on the gameplay side of things is True Prophecy itself, actually. Managed to nab two rolls, both of them Overflow but the one I use the most has Timed Payload. Can't really explain why I love it so much, other than it just feels right to use it.

    • @joshlong6733
      @joshlong6733 7 місяців тому +2

      The ones that xur was selling? He sold a overflow explosive payload and its pretty solid tbh the reload speed is so slow that overflow actually has its uses. Ive personally played the game since it came out and remember trying to get world drops from banshee and turning in literally 500 engrams one season and only got 4 rolls of it none that were good so when i seen xur selling that overflow explosive i was so hyped up lol

  • @LennyLeLenny
    @LennyLeLenny 7 місяців тому +2

    i think cantata is deserving of B tier since it has suros synergy. That flinch reduction does wonders, that plus handling for just reloading is huge.

  • @chaseburkley5325
    @chaseburkley5325 4 місяці тому +3

    Putting Thorn on the outside of the tier list was so dirty

  • @jayhendz939
    @jayhendz939 7 місяців тому +1

    Bro thank you for making this video and list

  • @versusdxxth_4928
    @versusdxxth_4928 7 місяців тому +3

    pov you wish you had even half of these handcannons ☠️

  • @Idkidkidk716
    @Idkidkidk716 7 місяців тому +4

    I got the an adept igneous hammer with the old perk. I would put the old and the new in S tier if you are able to get arrowhead brake on the new one because of the recoil changes the new igneous recoil is to the left and is super bad but if you get the recoil on the new igneous to 100 then you are chilling makes a huge difference imo

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

  • @FormaAlert
    @FormaAlert 7 місяців тому +3

    finally a tier list where everything isn't chucked into a/s tier right off the bat, fairest one ive ever seen

  • @Toneoko
    @Toneoko 7 місяців тому +6

    Fellas wake up Wallah finally made a hand cannon tier list 🤌🏼

  • @markproano50
    @markproano50 7 місяців тому +5

    What skin is that for Ace and how do you get it?

  • @Allupinyamama
    @Allupinyamama 7 місяців тому +28

    Hawkmoon and Thorn better be S tier

    • @SayWallahBruh
      @SayWallahBruh  7 місяців тому +28

      💀

    • @Luketheduke12
      @Luketheduke12 7 місяців тому

      They aren’t

    • @BuffGenji
      @BuffGenji 7 місяців тому +1

      Hawkmoon is really good, but not S-tier. To get extra stats you need to already have been in a fight, and the one shot doesn’t happen too often unless you’re way better than everyone else in the lobby. And thorn, although it is my favorite weapon, has super low range, and can only 2 head one body people up close due to low range, and against low resil targets, which is rare in the titan meta. And with smgs being this good, they get to compete at similar ranges. It also has an average mag size and bad stability, plus the exotic kill perk requires you to run at the orb to get it, which you can’t do a lot of times. Next season with catalyst it will definitely be up at A or S tho
      And I have over 2000 kills on both of these weapons

    • @a118studios7
      @a118studios7 7 місяців тому +2

      Thorn Will be S tier next season, but for now it's mid

    • @xtassy1961
      @xtassy1961 7 місяців тому

      Sometimes Stats Not everything
      Hawk feel amazing and better then all A Tier guns lol

  • @vampahh1171
    @vampahh1171 6 місяців тому +1

    I have a combined action with tunnel vision kill clip, max stability roll at 61, only 120 to compete with igneous for me. I'd put it in high B or low A tbh

  • @huegofarley4684
    @huegofarley4684 7 місяців тому +1

    celerity is such a crazy perk, im so glad i have a few trials weapons with it

  • @dyl10000
    @dyl10000 5 місяців тому

    Was going through my vault and realized I had the nasty steady hand tucked away in there. Probably my favorite feeling 120 right now.

  • @Werslerfull
    @Werslerfull 7 місяців тому +1

    I think Combined action with Adagio deserves very own video, it's fantastic gun!

  • @billythekidrcs1769
    @billythekidrcs1769 7 місяців тому

    Love all the videos you do man ........your probably hands down the best PVP player I've seen.........close 2nd with Grenader Jake..lol I like all the knowledge you guys bring to us man keep em coming bro

  • @TheBlazzam
    @TheBlazzam 7 місяців тому +2

    we just gonna ignore that Ace ornament?? what is that??

  • @nickeyback
    @nickeyback 7 місяців тому +5

    Anyone else wondering what that ornament is for Ace? I haven’t found it anywhere! 23:56

    • @LemonNull
      @LemonNull 5 місяців тому

      It was during the visual bug that made you be able to use any weapon model for any weapon so it’s bugged to look like the Dead Man’s Revenge ornament for DMT, his shotgun is also divinity lol

    • @URDWNF4LL
      @URDWNF4LL 3 місяці тому

      @@LemonNullthat’s sad, it would have been an amazing ornament and definitely pay to win to get, an amazing red dot on it lol

  • @GrimJ1m
    @GrimJ1m 7 місяців тому +1

    Great Video!

  • @Lawlololololololol
    @Lawlololololololol 7 місяців тому +6

    I know they're sunset but I would've liked to see Lunas Howl/ Not Forgotten somewhere there, still fun guns to use (even in their gutted state)

    • @jedispartancoolman
      @jedispartancoolman 7 місяців тому +1

      They aren't that good anymore by today's standards. Rose eats them

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

    • @TheEscapePlan01
      @TheEscapePlan01 7 днів тому

      @@jedispartancoolman boy have i got news for you.

    • @jedispartancoolman
      @jedispartancoolman 7 днів тому +1

      @@TheEscapePlan01 rose still eats lol

    • @TheEscapePlan01
      @TheEscapePlan01 7 днів тому +1

      @@jedispartancoolman i'd say they're pretty close if not on par now, but opinions exist.

  • @houstonSolo
    @houstonSolo 6 місяців тому

    Kept confidence with killing wind eye of the storm feels really good to me, but only if I’m not running crimson. Need a good legendary shotty cus I’ve been using duality with kept.

  • @tspin5642
    @tspin5642 7 місяців тому +1

    Can you do one of these for both sidearms and scout rifles? Even know we all know that the fables ruin and the jade rabbit are the best for there weapon types

  • @storm_velocity5994
    @storm_velocity5994 5 місяців тому +2

    i dont see anyone talking about it so ima say it. What exotic ornament for Ace of spades Is that??? Ive never seen it at all

  • @OnyxINQ
    @OnyxINQ 7 місяців тому

    I’m very happy to still have an old adept igneous hammer with arrowhead, high cal, rapid hit, opening shot or celerity. 90 range, 70 handling.

  • @BottomDollarandaDream
    @BottomDollarandaDream 6 місяців тому

    My bottom dollar is so close, I think it's still a pretty juiced roll though.
    Small bore, accurized, killing wind, eye of the storm, range mw. I wish it had slide shot instead of killing wind maybe surplus to help out in the stability/handling/reload department to make it a stat monster with 2-3 abilies on deck, eye of the storm is really nice on it.
    Gotta wait for a double gambit rank week again to farm for the perfect roll

  • @Ricology56
    @Ricology56 7 місяців тому +2

    My brother man really forgot about the world drop of Thin Line void HC. This thing felt great but you had to get the holy roll of Steady Hand, Ricochet rounds, Slideshot and Opening shot.
    Sits at 65 range and 47 stability at base and when opening shot/ slide shot activate it ramps up to 85/100 range and 77 stability. This thing felt amazing when I last used it before saying goodbye to it for more vault space.

    • @kevinmad0959
      @kevinmad0959 7 місяців тому

      well thats sunset so

    • @marylandman
      @marylandman 7 місяців тому

      Thin line was dope but it’s sunset now. Outside of trials, it’s cool but you can take it into the highest level comp

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

  • @XxDeathxX509
    @XxDeathxX509 7 місяців тому

    I never take off my old adept igneous with QuickDraw celerity. Very few handcannons that feel as good. Mine has 100 range, which is very noticeable compared to my older rolls

  • @Xitronix
    @Xitronix 4 місяці тому

    The thing you said about the crimson is so true cause I used to play on PC and I thought it was so mid and then when I used it in crucible on PlayStation I was dumbfounded at how good it was lol

  • @Deebrewski
    @Deebrewski 7 місяців тому

    this is quite literally the best tier list ive ever seen

  • @Dacrada
    @Dacrada 7 місяців тому

    I know it is not meta, but I just got a Steady Hands/Ensemble, Kill Clip Crisis Inverted with Full Bore, Ricochet, Range MW and it has been supremely enjoyable - for a no Trials player.

  • @SinceCOD4
    @SinceCOD4 7 місяців тому +2

    Feel like you should have went into more detail on why you dislike 180's. I'm going to give you some reasons I like them. #1 - At around 65-70 stability - they have by far the best hand cannon recoil in the game (almost non-existent). In fact, at around that stability - they have top 5 all weapons recoil in the game. #2 - WHILE IN FULL AUTO - they have the best target switching of all semi auto weapons in the game (this goes back to having no recoil). So you can X someone and without pausing your full auto firing - move on to the next target as if you aren't even firing. Most semi's cannot do this. With 180's - there's no resistance. #3 - They are more forgiving for missing shots and missing headshots than any other hand cannon class. Not really #4, but Frontier's Cry can hit 92 range with Iron Reach. And if you have Tunnel Vision on it and get a kill + reload - it can have 92 range and 100 Aim Assist. That lowers it's stability to 29. But 29 stability on a 180 is like 100 stability on a 120.

  • @Konnerading
    @Konnerading 7 місяців тому

    Super situational but ancient gospel with slide shot swashbuckler on solar hunter is really good. 1 knife kill procs swash x5 and radiant which lets you two tap.

  • @PubRunner
    @PubRunner 7 місяців тому

    I have an Epocal integration that I don’t recall you covering. I like it in PVE and I do ok with it in PVP but I’m really bad at PVP. Mine has incandescent and is a mini Sunshot in PVE great at clearing adds if I want to use another exotic ….

  • @samuelmeecham1951
    @samuelmeecham1951 7 місяців тому

    I have a true prophecy with opening shot and ele cap. Its prolly my favourite hc in the game especially on voidlock

  • @supersavvii
    @supersavvii 7 місяців тому

    editor intervention at the end is funny lol maybe the thorn will get a re-rank after the catalyst

  • @CaydeVanlue1999
    @CaydeVanlue1999 7 місяців тому

    About the combined action: While it defo deserves the ranking it got. It can roll hipfire-grip and offhand strike, these 2 together with a freehandgrip mod makes it very fun to hip-fire from bs far. (Also very short and not in the list for obv reasons: back in the day the Duke MK.44 RIPPED)

  • @MrDanedo
    @MrDanedo 3 місяці тому +1

    I have a rangefinder/expl payload bottom dollar and that's a god roll enough for me, very happy with it

  • @Winters_0
    @Winters_0 7 місяців тому +19

    Sturm mains 👇

    • @a118studios7
      @a118studios7 7 місяців тому +2

      Don't mess with sturm fans, half of us are naz-

    • @Nautilus_pilot
      @Nautilus_pilot 7 місяців тому +1

      Just reached 2000 kills with it today.

  • @Someothername2134
    @Someothername2134 5 місяців тому

    Love seeing sunspot get some love. Been using it since day 1 D2 (mostly pve) and it wrecks trash mobs.

  • @Blueroyal3
    @Blueroyal3 7 місяців тому

    The thing that throws me off on sunshot is the orange dot. I just can’t keep track of it sometimes. It’s even worse on certain maps where it just blends in with the background. I wish there was a way to increase the visibility of that thing.

  • @FujiwaraDF
    @FujiwaraDF 7 місяців тому +1

    Ohhh yessssssssss ❤ just by seeing this i can tell people are gonna try on more hand cannons this week i say this week cause..... Auto rifle meta and Smgs still extremely easy to use

  • @acedplays9388
    @acedplays9388 7 місяців тому

    I got 5/5 combined action with zen and adagio the two taps are crispy definitely A tier hc imo

  • @Red790
    @Red790 7 місяців тому +1

    Hawkmoon is S tier tbh, kind of hard to put it lower than Ace when Memento Mori gives it less range now. With Hawkmoon, the 1 taps are nice but you can have a 2 tap that you can store with either getting 1 kill or hitting 3 headshots, and getting the mag down to 2 bullets(also longer range than Ace now). You can swap to your special and still keep this, you lose this ability with Ace. If you want to go for the 1 taps, a x7 will 1 shot any1 in their super with a headshot

  • @fscottnoah7223
    @fscottnoah7223 7 місяців тому +5

    Can someone tell me what ornament for Ace he was using?! It appeared to have a Tex Mechanica theme from the user’s perspective.

    • @SavvyMon4
      @SavvyMon4 3 місяці тому

      Was footage from during the craftening I think

    • @SavvyMon4
      @SavvyMon4 3 місяці тому

      ua-cam.com/video/LKnkz1uoORo/v-deo.htmlsi=A79d9pa92Lm_6hcU

  • @dj_mcfuggernugs507
    @dj_mcfuggernugs507 7 місяців тому +1

    Pure Poetry looks like the comic book version of Hellboy's Good Samaritan

  • @Green_Sentinel_3
    @Green_Sentinel_3 6 місяців тому

    I feel Swashbuckler gets slept on in PVP considering the number of melee kills that frequently happen in the crucible.

  • @lukatosic09
    @lukatosic09 7 місяців тому +3

    Nature of the beast can 3 tap without a kill with high impact reserves

  • @warlockholmes
    @warlockholmes 7 місяців тому +3

    Me when Sturm finally gets love that it deserves

  • @sladeyt1376
    @sladeyt1376 3 місяці тому

    My best dueling hand cannon is the Austringer I literally never miss with that gun and my second is the Rose,fatebringer next and then eyaluna

  • @VigizF
    @VigizF 7 місяців тому

    Wardens Law goes hard, I’m in love with it

  • @nicoquesadiaz
    @nicoquesadiaz 7 місяців тому +3

    Im glad I could help :D

  • @redpandajake7789
    @redpandajake7789 3 місяці тому

    the old seventh seraph officer revolver had timed payload which is very fun and very solid

  • @Seven-Lights
    @Seven-Lights 7 місяців тому +1

    I guess as both a controller player and an Ophidian addict, any hc that has low handling but amazing range or lethality gets boosted significantly, for example Austringer with zen moment and eos is easily the best feeling hc I’ve ever used. Similarly, although I do have an old adept igneous with Celerity (it’s default), the new one is just a lot better to me.

    • @randomchicken0939
      @randomchicken0939 4 місяці тому

      Is it worth me using my deep sight harmonisers on the austringer (I’m a controller player) for pvp?

    • @Seven-Lights
      @Seven-Lights 4 місяці тому

      Depends really. If it was pre rangefinder nerf, then yes, definitely you should, but now, realistically it’s not as useful in general. If you play Warlock and you use Ophidians, then having enhanced zen moment and enhanced eye of the storm makes it one of the best if not in my opinion, the best dueling hand cannon (both enhanced perks give you +5 stability to add up to +10 overall). Otherwise if you play hunter or Titan, Rose is the best option, but you have to rely on RNG to get a good roll.

    • @randomchicken0939
      @randomchicken0939 4 місяці тому

      @@Seven-Lights I’m a warlock so imma use them

    • @randomchicken0939
      @randomchicken0939 4 місяці тому

      @@Seven-Lights thanks

  • @Chicken-rn6ur
    @Chicken-rn6ur 7 місяців тому

    loud lullaby with explosive rounds and surplus would easily sit in a tier if you knew what you were talking about. it feels amazing and competes at further ranges, its also thematically the coolest hand cannon cause it looks like you smacked a goose with it.

  • @Idranim
    @Idranim 7 місяців тому +1

    Thorn post buff is getting its own tier it’s basically just ace on steroids somehow

  • @creep7335
    @creep7335 7 місяців тому

    You can enhance raid adepts now.. been able to for at least a season. Not sure if that changes Zaoulis... plus reloading change next season..

  • @carlssson6769
    @carlssson6769 7 місяців тому

    loud lullaby is probably my favorite 120 besides igneous lol, just feels really good for me idk why, surplus kill clip slayed in trials

    • @KayronTho
      @KayronTho 7 місяців тому +1

      That’s my roll too! It feels incredibly good.

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢

  • @DesmondDoesMinecraft
    @DesmondDoesMinecraft 4 місяці тому

    I regularly run the Seraph’s Officer Revolver, but I do PVE

  • @user-bk4qv3mt6g
    @user-bk4qv3mt6g 7 місяців тому

    I saw a video of someone strand grappling to a Noble Round from Lumina across the entire map because the projectile continues for eons. Consider looking at that for your next video!

  • @risqiekahzii4806
    @risqiekahzii4806 7 місяців тому

    I have a igneous hammer with small bore, ricochet rounds, rapid hit, celerity and a range masterwork.

  • @Moistrazmataz
    @Moistrazmataz 5 місяців тому

    Vulpecula slaps, mine rolled with a masterwork impact so its got that fire rate & damage too

  • @Gravlyy
    @Gravlyy 7 місяців тому +1

    It hurts to see my baby true proph in C, but I gotta agree. Good HC, but it’s basically impossible to get a good roll, and mid rolls aren’t very usable.

  • @thenamesmango7235
    @thenamesmango7235 7 місяців тому

    I really like how you rank weapons, the fact that you acccnowledge that the subject has to be legit flawless to enter the S tier is super good, now a days people put everything in the s tier

  • @1leggeddog
    @1leggeddog 7 місяців тому

    lol the Ace Of Spades footage was with the weapon glitch looking like he was using DMT

  • @xrainmank
    @xrainmank 5 місяців тому

    hey wallah, what do you think of thorn now with the catalyst?

  • @Gabeison_
    @Gabeison_ 5 місяців тому +2

    Thorn not being Meta did NOT age well AT ALL

    • @antiheartless45
      @antiheartless45 2 місяці тому +1

      So the catalyst made it cracked?

    • @Gabeison_
      @Gabeison_ 2 місяці тому +1

      @@antiheartless45exactly

  • @IzSleepyx
    @IzSleepyx 4 місяці тому

    He took his words back when the catalyst came for thorn lmao, its almost one of the best handcannons now and it's everywhere, Thorn is quite literally meta

  • @MichaeLPeterSSClips
    @MichaeLPeterSSClips 5 місяців тому

    I run a crafted austringeer or an old igneous hammer those are my preferred choices :)

  • @kommiraikoni
    @kommiraikoni 3 місяці тому

    I like how all PvP guys stay almost stable when you're shooting them

  • @africanpenguin3104
    @africanpenguin3104 7 місяців тому

    Thorn with catalyst gonna be amazing

  • @sebastian_blair6685
    @sebastian_blair6685 7 місяців тому

    Btw depending what u do quick draw is useless if ur using it to try and swap to a shotgun fast only good to swap off shotgun to the handcannon fast

  • @Mr.Linguini
    @Mr.Linguini 7 місяців тому

    That editor’s intervention 🤣

  • @notoriouspsi
    @notoriouspsi 7 місяців тому

    Great stuff, made me want to play.

  • @chazcarpenter1559
    @chazcarpenter1559 7 місяців тому +1

    Last word has carried me to flawless multiple times in the last few weeks. Yes im on console. But still i think it needs to be in A tier. Throw on a kinetic targeting mod on console and sheeshhh. Things deadly

    • @revenge750
      @revenge750 7 місяців тому

      Why so much cheaters In this game not good for new gamers 😢😢😢