Overhyped yes but you cannot deny that there isn’t any other 140 that handles flinch like Austringer does … it’s got stupid stability ( can reach 90+ ) Maybe I’m just a massive cammycakes fan but personally I like this gun a lot . Again I do agree it’s overhyped tho , I mean shit I think dire promise is one of the best 140s in the game but that’s just me
@@Arctic_Dragon-f6dit pretty much is. snapshot and dexterity mods make this thing the definitive 140 and with the range it has, you dont need rangefinder
Tried it. And I swear I just cannot like the gun. I have 68 range 88 stab EOS and zen and I am still going back to a 4/6 rose everytime I want to like it so bad
Yes it is. I used it for few games earlier and it feels crisp hitting headshots while being flinched. Well your not getting flinched much with this but you can tell when your fixen to hit your headshot
Same guy hyping up Sunshot, with an insanely low aim assist value. "A lot of you guys won't use it because it's too hard to use." How far we've come, SayWallahBruh to Aim Assist Andrew.
It's crazy because I used to think slideshot was such an underrated perk on handcannons, especially 120s in the 2 tapping meta, but now it's definitely overhyped. Opening shot gives a greater range boost than slideshot and stupid accuracy buffs, whereas slideshot only grants range and stability and has more situational activation. I get it has the potential to buff two of your shots during the slide, but still not as good as opening imo
Yeah, you hear so much about it because 1. It’s craftable so no rng and 2. Because it’s amazing on controller 3. Those who champion it (like me) are mainly Warlocks who run Ophidian Aspects, so handling is a non issue. Having to equip snapshot really removes a huge aspect of what makes Austringer great, which is Eye of the Storm. Austringer is my most used PvP gun with ~4.5k kills (I know it’s not that much), but do I use it when I play Titan or Hunter? No, I either my 5/5 Rose with slideshot and explosive payload or my 4/5 Rose with slideshot and opening shot. The reason it’s so popular is because of Ophidians. If Ophidians weren’t a thing, yes it would still be popular on roller due to how busted Zen moment and EOS is, but it would be significantly less used. If you play Hunter, use Rose over Austringer 100% because of the AE and the handling, likewise with Hunter. If you’re a Solar warlock using heat rises consistently, it’s a toss up, but for anything else, use Austringer. High stability so you get flinched less, which is more of an issue on roller, zen moment makes it so you rank flinch and you essentially don’t have to control the recoil, simply put all your effort on strafing and tracking enemies movement. This is going on for too long, but a final mention on why Austringer is so popular on controller is that HCs like Rose, Ace, Igneous, etc all have considerably more recoil which is harder to deal with on controller compared to mnk. Understandably this is completely a skill issue thing, but most players have this so called ‘skill issue’. Why else do you think Autos, Smgs and Pulse rifles are so popular in lower end PvP lobbies?
My Austringer has 64 handling. It does not need Ophidians imo. Quick access sling and a dex mod are enough to make it very snappy, especially with a quickdraw shotty.
@@NickystixYT that roll is so good on controller fr, I even use it on mnk now that rangefinder got touched up and snap + rangefinder isn't my go to anymore
My only positive on the gun is the ability to learn from its lower AA. I suck with hand cannons in general even with hawkmoon being at 94 AA can’t hit Jack and hell but austringer lets me practice with low aim assist for my shots and when I finally start getting better with it I can be a damn near God with other higher AA weapons
Me on the other hand I love this gun. It was the first adaptive frame handcannon I picked up when I was forcing and teaching myself how to use handcannons
I used to hate this gun. Then I put extended barrel and Quickdraw on it. That 5 recoil direction makes a difference. I could definitely feel that and it made the gun feel much better to me.
I have 7k kills with it, so from my experience, I personally think its more of a stable laser HC rather than a quick flick HC like Rose. Its really stable and its almost always automatic headshots. After using it religiously since it came out, i understand Austringuer is so weird (but perfect) that other HCs feel wrong to me
Already made a previous comment and I think I overcomplicated things a bit. Tldr; Austringer is craftable, so no rng, for Rose you need to go into comp and beat rng, for Eyasluna you need to complete and probably farm (unless you’re lucky) said dungeon, for Igneous you need to play Trials and for the adept you need to go flawless and for both you need to beat rng. Additionally all HCs on controller and console with more than 70 aim assist have absurd bullet magnetism so they feel good, Austringer can have insane stability which is good for controller recoil control and flinch resist. Comparatively Ace and Rose can feel a bit unwieldy, especially if you get a low stability roll on Rose. Obviously Rose and Ace will have higher range than Austringer if you have crafted it with high stability, but oftentimes on controller it is difficult to consistently get three taps at the limit of Ace and Rose’s range due to the worse stability, so Austringer provides a more consistent experience. That is all. P.s. weird side note, but I was checking lightgg today and as it turns out, for those logged into lightgg (put out account details in), only 21% of them had acquired just the normal version of The Summoner, as compared to the 51% who have acquired Forbearance. Bruh, Trials ain’t that scary.
Well considering you're using Snapshot sights over EoTS. Also it is better than snapshot... You could at least use Air Assault instead for some added AE
Rose genuinely ruined austringer for me, I had an okay roll for the longest time and that okay roll was still better than my crafted roll that I spent forever grinding for in the haunted leviathan, with the god roll rose I got recently it pushed austringer’s coffin deeper into the ground
What would the god roll be because I have this pattern but never crafted it because I don't like hand cannons in pvp and I might try getting used to them
I guarantee you if you put eye of the storm and rangefinder back on it with 91 stability, you’ll see how insane it still is. It’s goated and still the dueling king of handcannons with that roll. Go test it and come back and tell me I’m wrong.
I'm wondering if we are gonna be overrun with Dukes and Kindled Orchids with double damage perks next season, or if the hype will wear off after a couple weeks.
While austringer is my favourite hc right now. I can respect liking eyasluna more than austringer. But here is my fav hot take... I think rose is overrated... Unless ur a hunter.
I love mine, but Rose (max range slide and opening) and Midnight Coup (max range w zen on controller) have taken over for me. I’ve always thought something about Austringer felt off or not that good, even with max range zen and EOS.
Yep, it did feel off - and once I combed over all the perks I figured it out. It's that 95 recoil versus 100. I can actually feel that difference. You need either counter balance or a recoil barrel. Its bizarre but it fixed that quirk for me.
It’s insane on controller, 3 taps are way to easy to hit with it if you run a high stability role with eye of the storm, and you could go for either zen or os
That’s weird. I cook whenever I break it out. I’m fine with low aim assist. In my cod days I would just turn it off anyway. I hate my scope being dragged just because people are swapping or someone flies across the screen
don't know about you but I play controller on PC and I personally like the less aim assist because it feels more deserving when I get the kill instead of having shit tons of aim assist where I practically don't even need to move my controller and just get a free kill
I don't care about the perk or the stats, I like Austringer just for the Prized Ivory ornament. Single best looking (legendary) hand cannon in the game, I don't care what anyone says. _But it's not a 120, so I'm not gonna use this gun lol._
love you wallah but this gun is one of the best hand cannons in the game and nobody’s changing my mind on that 🥱 also all I see is you hitting shots with it and complementing zen moment so…
I like to think of Austringer as training wheels. If you haven't used a handcannon in pvp then it's there as a solid starter weapon that's reliable and easy to use but not the best. Once you get a enough practice it's best to move on to better options like Rose, Ace or to Igneous. It does feel really good on controller though with all that stability
L take The gun is absolutely busted on roller with the insane stability + zen + EotS. It also looks and sounds beautiful, especially with the prized ivory ornament, I swear it makes the gun 4-5x better
Wallah: _hates Austringer_
Also Wallah: _performs with Austringer better than with the Rose_
The new UA-cam clickbait meta, instead of saying a mid gun is insane like everyone else you say an insane gun is mid. Genius.
Wallah's genius level is mid
The click bait king is Gernader Jack though, can't understand how people fall for those UA-cam clips
Other youtubers will follow now
Bro said he hates the gun, and then preceded to seemingly happily go off on everyone with it
Typical UA-camr.
Overhyped yes but you cannot deny that there isn’t any other 140 that handles flinch like Austringer does … it’s got stupid stability ( can reach 90+ )
Maybe I’m just a massive cammycakes fan but personally I like this gun a lot . Again I do agree it’s overhyped tho , I mean shit I think dire promise is one of the best 140s in the game but that’s just me
valid take, dire promise W
@@grimzael Dire promise huge L gun, for the clint eastwood simps
My stringer has 99 stability with zen moment eots. I can’t lose a duel with it
@@Lightninstrikem Just because you have 99 stability and zen moment, doesnt mean you cant lose a duel lol.
@@xPureAndTheTaintedx it’s called an exaggeration🤓👆
I still think it is decent, but Cerberus +1 is definitely better
This is the rarest L take ive ever seen from wallahi he did not cook
I'm over here like this dude said its ass but shits on everyone while using it. Looked like the best 140 from this gameplay lmao
@@Arctic_Dragon-f6dit pretty much is. snapshot and dexterity mods make this thing the definitive 140 and with the range it has, you dont need rangefinder
Eye of the storm with zen is crazy on a controller
Ong fav hc fs
LET EM KNOW 🗣️
Tried it. And I swear I just cannot like the gun. I have 68 range 88 stab EOS and zen and I am still going back to a 4/6 rose everytime I want to like it so bad
Yes it is. I used it for few games earlier and it feels crisp hitting headshots while being flinched. Well your not getting flinched much with this but you can tell when your fixen to hit your headshot
My go to hand cannon when people begin to abuse cheese weapons
Same guy hyping up Sunshot, with an insanely low aim assist value. "A lot of you guys won't use it because it's too hard to use."
How far we've come, SayWallahBruh to Aim Assist Andrew.
“My handcannon is shooting refrigerators instead of 18 wheelers this gun is so bad!” 😭
Wallah : slaughters everyone w a "ass" handcannon
Also wallah: jims the gally shot
went straight to the comments with this one...
The first minute is the craziest handcannon propaganda ive heard in awhile
It's crazy because I used to think slideshot was such an underrated perk on handcannons, especially 120s in the 2 tapping meta, but now it's definitely overhyped. Opening shot gives a greater range boost than slideshot and stupid accuracy buffs, whereas slideshot only grants range and stability and has more situational activation. I get it has the potential to buff two of your shots during the slide, but still not as good as opening imo
My favourite moment is 7:43 truly a zen moment of all time
Yeah, you hear so much about it because 1. It’s craftable so no rng and 2. Because it’s amazing on controller 3. Those who champion it (like me) are mainly Warlocks who run Ophidian Aspects, so handling is a non issue. Having to equip snapshot really removes a huge aspect of what makes Austringer great, which is Eye of the Storm. Austringer is my most used PvP gun with ~4.5k kills (I know it’s not that much), but do I use it when I play Titan or Hunter? No, I either my 5/5 Rose with slideshot and explosive payload or my 4/5 Rose with slideshot and opening shot. The reason it’s so popular is because of Ophidians. If Ophidians weren’t a thing, yes it would still be popular on roller due to how busted Zen moment and EOS is, but it would be significantly less used. If you play Hunter, use Rose over Austringer 100% because of the AE and the handling, likewise with Hunter. If you’re a Solar warlock using heat rises consistently, it’s a toss up, but for anything else, use Austringer. High stability so you get flinched less, which is more of an issue on roller, zen moment makes it so you rank flinch and you essentially don’t have to control the recoil, simply put all your effort on strafing and tracking enemies movement. This is going on for too long, but a final mention on why Austringer is so popular on controller is that HCs like Rose, Ace, Igneous, etc all have considerably more recoil which is harder to deal with on controller compared to mnk. Understandably this is completely a skill issue thing, but most players have this so called ‘skill issue’. Why else do you think Autos, Smgs and Pulse rifles are so popular in lower end PvP lobbies?
My Austringer has 64 handling. It does not need Ophidians imo. Quick access sling and a dex mod are enough to make it very snappy, especially with a quickdraw shotty.
“I hate this gun… because it gives me free kills.”
Bro i have no idea why but on console this is the only 140 i never miss any shots with. Eye of storm opening shot goes BRAZYYYY
Skill issue
😂
2:02 -> what 10K hours look like
Put opening shot and eye of the storm and its the best dueling hand cannon in the game. I can hit every 3 tap
Exactly I feel like I hit my shots but I’m on the roller
@@NickystixYT that roll is so good on controller fr, I even use it on mnk now that rangefinder got touched up and snap + rangefinder isn't my go to anymore
It ok. 15 AA > eye of the storm. If this game had servers Austringer would be the best, but in this game you need high AA
15 AA > EoT by a fucking mile.
My only positive on the gun is the ability to learn from its lower AA. I suck with hand cannons in general even with hawkmoon being at 94 AA can’t hit Jack and hell but austringer lets me practice with low aim assist for my shots and when I finally start getting better with it I can be a damn near God with other higher AA weapons
watching the austringer auto aim for him half the time "this gun is trash" like huh?
Me on the other hand I love this gun. It was the first adaptive frame handcannon I picked up when I was forcing and teaching myself how to use handcannons
Fatebringer is still bussin tbh
I used to hate this gun. Then I put extended barrel and Quickdraw on it. That 5 recoil direction makes a difference. I could definitely feel that and it made the gun feel much better to me.
I have 7k kills with it, so from my experience, I personally think its more of a stable laser HC rather than a quick flick HC like Rose. Its really stable and its almost always automatic headshots. After using it religiously since it came out, i understand Austringuer is so weird (but perfect) that other HCs feel wrong to me
is I think the easiest 140 to use in controller, decent range, a lot of stability and snapshot feels comfy
my shoulder charge didn't make the cut.
You can get a 96 stability, 60 range with zen moment, on austringer, and that no other hc can do, he’s just another level
Already made a previous comment and I think I overcomplicated things a bit. Tldr; Austringer is craftable, so no rng, for Rose you need to go into comp and beat rng, for Eyasluna you need to complete and probably farm (unless you’re lucky) said dungeon, for Igneous you need to play Trials and for the adept you need to go flawless and for both you need to beat rng. Additionally all HCs on controller and console with more than 70 aim assist have absurd bullet magnetism so they feel good, Austringer can have insane stability which is good for controller recoil control and flinch resist. Comparatively Ace and Rose can feel a bit unwieldy, especially if you get a low stability roll on Rose. Obviously Rose and Ace will have higher range than Austringer if you have crafted it with high stability, but oftentimes on controller it is difficult to consistently get three taps at the limit of Ace and Rose’s range due to the worse stability, so Austringer provides a more consistent experience. That is all.
P.s. weird side note, but I was checking lightgg today and as it turns out, for those logged into lightgg (put out account details in), only 21% of them had acquired just the normal version of The Summoner, as compared to the 51% who have acquired Forbearance. Bruh, Trials ain’t that scary.
“I should be able to deflect with my rope…” ya no…don’t let this man cook.
Honestly, Aus is my second most consistent HC after Luna, idk what it is but I do better with Aus than my Rose
I love it on controller it’s just so stable and zen moment makes it have no flinch.
I thought the 58-0 was a bug until they started scoring.... couldn't be me
nah austringer is fine, great even. it’s just that rose exists in the same slot but it’s ten trillion times smoother
For anyone who loves this gun you’re wrong and Eyasluna is better L + ratio
Speaking facts Eyasluna over Austringer
Well considering you're using Snapshot sights over EoTS. Also it is better than snapshot... You could at least use Air Assault instead for some added AE
Eyasluna sucks now
this is why cammycakes is better, bro crafted it with snapshot too lmfao
Eyesluna and midnight coup are both better
The fact you chose snap over eye of the storm is wild
Rose genuinely ruined austringer for me, I had an okay roll for the longest time and that okay roll was still better than my crafted roll that I spent forever grinding for in the haunted leviathan, with the god roll rose I got recently it pushed austringer’s coffin deeper into the ground
What would the god roll be because I have this pattern but never crafted it because I don't like hand cannons in pvp and I might try getting used to them
Some combination of Eots, Snapshot, Opening Shot or Zen Moment.
At least it’s actually a handcannon 🗿
I guarantee you if you put eye of the storm and rangefinder back on it with 91 stability, you’ll see how insane it still is. It’s goated and still the dueling king of handcannons with that roll. Go test it and come back and tell me I’m wrong.
"Doesn't have many good perks"
- Rangefinder
- Outlaw
- Rampage
- Opening Shot
- High Caliber Rounds
- Ricochet Rounds
- Demolitionist
- Frenzy
- Snapshot Sights
- Full Bore
- Small Bore
- Hammer Forged Rifling
I'm wondering if we are gonna be overrun with Dukes and Kindled Orchids with double damage perks next season, or if the hype will wear off after a couple weeks.
probably not. It will definitely be short lived even if it happens.
While austringer is my favourite hc right now. I can respect liking eyasluna more than austringer.
But here is my fav hot take... I think rose is overrated... Unless ur a hunter.
AA don’t mean anything to me, midnight coup can get 100 but feels like garbage to me
Damn bro you came after the wrong gun
Someone presents MLA formatted essay on why austringer is good.
Wallah:"First of all, fuck you" 😅
You towards Austringer is like me with Scalar Potential (Yes, I think it’s a very mid and overrated pulse)
Darkest Before clears
I love mine, but Rose (max range slide and opening) and Midnight Coup (max range w zen on controller) have taken over for me. I’ve always thought something about Austringer felt off or not that good, even with max range zen and EOS.
Yep, it did feel off - and once I combed over all the perks I figured it out. It's that 95 recoil versus 100. I can actually feel that difference. You need either counter balance or a recoil barrel. Its bizarre but it fixed that quirk for me.
Every saying how he trashes it then goes off, Wallah could slap with a Grey weapon. He's just different.
Zen moment and eye of the storm…
This handcannon is good
I love the Austringer, but after the rangefinder nerfs I haven't really used it.
i’ve always hated austringer man. it feels really weird and fragile (if that makes sense), and always use something like rose instead.
It’s insane on controller, 3 taps are way to easy to hit with it if you run a high stability role with eye of the storm, and you could go for either zen or os
That’s weird. I cook whenever I break it out. I’m fine with low aim assist. In my cod days I would just turn it off anyway. I hate my scope being dragged just because people are swapping or someone flies across the screen
I mean thats not really how aim assist works in destiny on mnk
@@Labs__Thorn I’m talking about my experience man. I don’t play pc
Its one of those guns that i like using even though its not good, i miss the Duke Mk. 44 ;((
somtimes i cant help but roll my eyes bc wallah is the pvp version of saltedgreppo
I used a god roll Austringer and immediately dismantled it. I'm very good with handcannons but this gun just isn't for me man.
I have the same issue, it just feels off. I still use it because i love how it looks and sounds.
Omg thank you bro, rose, eyasluna, ace if spades, thorn bro just use anything else like where is the thing that makes me want to grind this weapon
How dare you say the gun is bad when it gave you that 1:37 and that 1:45 as headshots.
The origin trait is strong though, even if it's pve focused
Warra absolute waffle from saywallahbruh😂
After focusing 1Million Roses and still not getting a god roll, this is definitely a good HC. Fukk RNG.
i mean its a offbrand hawkmoon but i love it so we now have beef 😂
Using any 140 = 🤢 embrace 180, return to posterity
It's actually really good starter 140. But rose out classes it. You either love it or hate it. Btw you stink wallah❤
Don't like Rose, for me better gun than Rose it's Fatebringer, Eyasluna.
Rose also overhyped.
I can't believe austringer exposed saywallahbruh in 4k on stream. This is going to be a huge drama.
Man, it ain’t that bad 😢
Dude my game doesn’t even work that fast
i might have to make a diss track on you for this one man…
don't know about you but I play controller on PC and I personally like the less aim assist because it feels more deserving when I get the kill instead of having shit tons of aim assist where I practically don't even need to move my controller and just get a free kill
Feel likes theres no reason to use kinetic 140 that isnt exotic tbh but im personally a Fatebringer fan if it comes to it
Lord of wolves better than austringer confirmed
Eyesluna is so shit compared to austringer
I hate Eyasluna, just cant get a feeling for it
It has the same stats but waaay higher AA
No
Eye of rhe storm is 100% better than slide shot. Increasing accuracy throughout a gunfight is way better than 1 shot of better range and stability
I don't care about the perk or the stats, I like Austringer just for the Prized Ivory ornament. Single best looking (legendary) hand cannon in the game, I don't care what anyone says.
_But it's not a 120, so I'm not gonna use this gun lol._
Damn dude, just say it ain’t for you
Better controller gun but I agree why tf would you use this when rose exists in the kinetic slot
Literally the best 140 in the game but go off (you ain’t cooking at all and we are starving)
Bro is not using eye of the storm 💀 I love austringer and you are wrong
This is the best legendary HC in the game
Austringer is by far my fav 140 😂😂😂😂😂
Such a strand (and sword) crutch 😂
Austringer makes Wallah dry and Eyasluna gets him moist.
Make a video using for the hell of it?
I literally never understood the hype for this gun. It feels so unforgiving with hit reg
I’m tired of these streamers/youtubers saying guns are trash but continue to show games where they cook and go on kill streaks
This hand cannon is not for you then, take your 95aa rose 🗣️ (i never use my austringer)
Bro not cooking, so raw it's still alive
What’s your pc specs?
u should try xdefiant i think youd like it
Day 55: use final warning with floatlock
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'75 aim assist' - most definately a skill issue. but don't worry, you still have your shotgun and grapple melee to crutch
love you wallah but this gun is one of the best hand cannons in the game and nobody’s changing my mind on that 🥱
also all I see is you hitting shots with it and complementing zen moment so…
I have one with an Adept range mod on it.
I like to think of Austringer as training wheels. If you haven't used a handcannon in pvp then it's there as a solid starter weapon that's reliable and easy to use but not the best. Once you get a enough practice it's best to move on to better options like Rose, Ace or to Igneous. It does feel really good on controller though with all that stability
bro said igneous is harder to use
@@pizza-for-mountains didn't say that. Do you think a person who's just starting out has a igneous?
I play on controller and austringer feels like it has 100 aim assist with eye of the storm
It was good before cause of Rangefinder when it wasn't nerfed
Also it's sexy, even if it doesn't perform well.
I think your problem is the lower aim assist value on this gun. You need to stack targeting mods + eye of storm and zen.
L take
The gun is absolutely busted on roller with the insane stability + zen + EotS. It also looks and sounds beautiful, especially with the prized ivory ornament, I swear it makes the gun 4-5x better
I too personally dont like this gun, I hate the sound and it just feels... off