JINKX!!!! The Devil's Chord | Doctor Who Series 14 Ep 2 | Ncuti | Millie | Season 1
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Fun fact : The actress who played the older lady who was killed by Maestro after playing music was June Hudson, who was the Costume Designer in the last few years of Tom Baker's era, and designed his " maroon look" in season 18.
The lyrics are actually "Snap back to reality, ope, there goes mavity".
“Mario”
Jinkx gave the most interesting delivery possible for every line, never making the easy or most obvious choice. The most delicious mix of camp & scary.
Apparently she did a different performance on each take as well, each after discussing with the director to figure out what was going through the character's head.
The Maestro performance is genuinely interesting. It has to walk that Doctor Who line, it can't be inherently terrifying because there are kids in the audience, but it needs to be at least unnerving.
Maestro initially appears to be massively over the top, but the longer you watch, the more obvious it is that it's a 'performance'. So it slides across the line of suspended disbelief. And then you realize that if you genuinely met someone like that in reality - THAT would be terrifying. That would be a genuinely unhinged way for someone to act.
'The most delicious mix of camp & scary.' - And if that isn't Doctor Who in a nutshell.
@@Stephen-Fox you're absolutely right, Russell T.Davies was really impressed with the effort and hard work that Jinx put in. And I agree, it was a magnificent performance!
Genius who found the chord? Son of the man who composed music for Dr Who 1982-85 eight episodes, the senior who remembered her music? Costume designer Dr WHO 78-81 32 episodes.
I loved the mix of diegetic and non-diegetic music in this. Ruby playing her own theme on the piano for one gave me chills
I hooted with laughter when The Doctor says "I thought that was non-diagetic"... like, has he been constantly distracted by Murray Golds score for years now?
@@OldManFerdiad I got distracted with Murray Gold's cameo on the piano during the end song :)
@@OldManFerdiad I think that's actually an important line. There's been a lot of fourth-wall breaking the last few episodes, including that, and I think it's intentional and related to the big bad "one who waits".
"Me. I'm them."
"You're who?"
"No, that's the Doctor."
"Doctor who?"
I LOVED the sonic being used like that because it literally vibrates atoms at a distance cancelling out waves is a really real world thing it could do out of all the things we see it do.
like there is a devise they've made in Japan that can stop people talking using hat method
Right? The sonic does sonic things.
There’s a big reference to Pyramids of Mars from Classic Who in this episode. The Doctor takes Sarah to show her an alternative future upon her insistence that she knows the world doesn’t end in 1911. I think this may be more than a coincidence. Maybe.
Also in The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith, Sarah Jane is established as an orphan who was abandoned by her parents. She goes back to 1951 tempted by The Trickster (who has a sidekick in the schoolboy Oscar). When Sarah and Luke nip back to present day London it is a ruin and the Elizabeth Tower is partially buried and leaning.
Well...this aged well. 😉
@@votemonty1815 Called it! 🙌
Wild Blue Yonder they travel to 1666 and Newton mentions the devil. It was all there.
Also fun fact - the lil old lady in this episode is June Hudson who was the costume designer for Doctor Who in the 1970/80’s for Tom Baker’s doctor and his companions etc
O.K but I love that the after-effects of defeating a reality-warping villain got established in the Giggle so now a musical number at the end of an episode actually makes in-universe sense 😅 I haven't watched an episode this fun in ages!
I adore this one. Maestro’s an instant classic villain, and I feel like anyone who doesn’t Hate Fun is gonna look back on this one fondly for years to come.
Maestro would've been a good villain for Capaldi to face. Let him put that guitar to good use.
Music Battle!
A lot of guest performers chew the scenery, but it's rare for one to chew the musical score! ❤❤❤
A cool detail- Ruby plays her own theme. She ‘wrote’ and plays it while she’s the only music left except maestro themself.
Jinkx gave the most amazing performance. I’m actually sad they had her in it so early😭😭
Cilla is Cilla Black, a popular singer in the 60s and 70s, and like the Beatles, hails from Liverpool.
I never get tired of watching Maestro kick off the opening tune...
I'm glad and impressed you know who Cilla is/was! I wondered how much of the international audience would have ever heard of her, especially as she's only briefly mentioned in this episode without really going into her biography. I'm not a Cilla superfan or anything but it's nice that you were able to get that reference.
Most people will know her now as the Suprise Suprise meme
I was very chuffed to know her hehe
Cilla being featured in 2021's Last Night in Soho probably boosted people's awareness of her.
I only knew her from a song of hers being reacted to on an American music reaction channel (the Rob Squad) and all of her UK fans talking about her.
The behind-the-scenes things I find often more surprising. Like learning the genius composer at the start is the son of Radiophonic Workshop composer Roger Limb - whose edgy incidental music accompanied Classic Who stories like 'Caves of Androzani' and 'Revelation of the Daleks'. Just in case you thought Jinkx playing the bassnotes was the only meta moment.
Once again, George and Ringo get short shrift in a show with the Beatles.
I know, they didn't even get to say anything!
George is my favourite Beatle ❤
@@PaulaDeming Of course, that's not to say that I didn't enjoy the episode. I thought it was delightfully mad. And though my expression during the final "Twist" resembled the TARDIS crew's reaction to the Beatles singing about a dog, I've come around after processing it.
After missing music for so long, of course there's going to be an explosion of music as it returns. It also follows the "Pandora's Box" that was opened after the confrontation with the Toymaker.
Ringo would have warned off the Maestro with peace and love (peace and love)
I read a comment on another video and had to share its contents... there's a quote by someone called Jean-Michel Basquiat, "Art is how we decorate space, but music is how we decorate time"... seems very apt not only for this episode, but for the conversation afterwards too.
Ooooo that is a good quote
@FromRussiaWithLuv007 it's beautiful. It's etched into my brain now, so I had to share it.
oh, I like that. Thank you for sharing!
'someone called Jean-Michel Basquiat'....oh, as an artsy 80s kid and a HUGE Basquiat fan, that hurt my heart a little that people might not know who he was. Too bad, as he was soooo far ahead of his time and a brilliant light that went out far too soon (sadly one of the doomed '27 club').
If you ever want to get more of a feel for his story, I definitely recommend his biopic 'Basquiat' from 1996 -- it even has Bowie playing Andy Warhol in it. ❤
@NicoleM_radiantbaby purely from that quote alone he's someone I'd like to know more about, so thanks for the recommendation 😊
Also added to cameo central: the two people dancing in the corridor with Tardis Team - Johannes Radebe (Dancer) & Shirley Ballas (Judge) of Strictly Come Dancing.
Shirley was the choreographer who did the "I'm still standing" video for Elton John.
I did catch Shirley , didn't notice Johannes , wouldn't be amazed if there were other Strictly people involved .
Not really a spoiler...But there seems to be someone who has been in every episode since WILD BLUE YONDER.
Lurking in the background, delivering one line here and there. But its been the same actress every episode. I find that interesting...
so in the credits, there is in fact always a twist in the end... I wonder how it will tie in, but I have my suspicions
Wait, she was already in Wild Blue Yonder?? Ok, time to rewatch that ep.
@@theanyktos Newton scene.
@@TheMess9898 oooohhhh, ok cool, well that's interesting
there's a huge amount of metaness going on in this season. Mavity, Susan Twist turning up in every episode as a different minor character, the numerous fourth wall breaks, the stepping on a butterfly, Mrs Flood, the Goblin song, the song in this. There's something afoot, like another pantheon 'god' that's viewing / controlling all of what we're seeing somehow.
The worst people are gonna hammer the show for that song and dance routine- purely so the fighting over it fuels their engagement. Meanwhile RTD is like "don't say I didn’t warn you." I just get the feeling that scene is more important than we think.
Mrs Mills was a super famous sing-a-long pub style piano player. Her LP records were a must for family parties. She was one of EMIs biggest stars. Her specially tuned piano was at Abby Road studios and used on many 60s pop records, by many groups including the Beatles.
I prided myself on recognizing the billboard advertising the original name of John Smith & The Common Men, but it's taken until today for me to realise that Maestro is literally 'playing' the Tardis using a key on a piano. It was Eurovision night and drinks were consumed.
I feel like music, art and storytelling are going to be themes for this series, and I think that's wonderful and a great way to give this season it's own identity
Kat is one of the Toymaker's Legions; who uses the power of reality to steal fantasy and wonder from the world. Paula is the first victim; all cheerful and happy about the dance number and whimsical nature of Doctor Who; only for Kat aka Reality Check to say " There are only Eight Episodes of Doctor Who this Season." And gleefully watch as the wonder exits Paula.
😌😌
Love how Paula's expressions change between so many emotions
The found the magic chord together... presumably Lennon will still want first credit
06:59 - Susan Twist...making her continous, mysterious appearance.
Susan Twist is the woman that sold the Doctor and Ruby tea......Susan Twist is part of RTD's mystery box this season....she played the woman with Isaac Newton when the Doctor and Donna changed Gravity to Mavity at the beginning of "Wild Blue Yonder"
17:44 This is why I am here. I love The dynamic between you to
The older lady in this episode was a costume designer for doctor who in the 70s.
She Designed Tom's Scarf!
The legendary June Hudson who designed Tom's burgundy costume for his final season (she also has a cameo in Doctor Who sort of spin off "Class").
She also did Blakes 7
Do you mean the lady that got got by Maestro, or the one who made them tea? Because I think the tea lady might've been Mrs. Flood.
@@theanyktos The elderly woman in the apartment who risked playing the piano. Ms. Hudson also designed Peter Davison's ensemble and the funkadelic Movellans (a guilty pleasure of mine) among other wardrobes.
I thought this was a middle of the range Who plot elevated to greatness by the astonishing cast.
Wish I had the internet when I was your age to review Doctor Who. It just makes it more fun to watch when you can share the viewing.
Jinkx did not just chew the scenery in this but they ripped it apart, tore it into a full orchestra and played the greatest musical track you've ever heard
I love that Kat caught the heartbeat tune and was able to communicate with Paula only by tapping. No words needed. We Whovians know
There's always a Twist at the end! LOVED this episode. Fun, fun fun. The callbacks by the Doctor were imho, pitched perfectly. Ideal for someone new to the series and nostalgic for the rest of us. Also liked the scene where they went to the Maestro's future version of Earth. Reminded me very much of a scene from a 1975 story with The 4th Doctor and Sarah Jane.
So looking forward to the rest of this series and watching you guys react to it,😁👍❤
"Whhhyyy can't we watch it now? Why didn't they just drop all of the episodes?"
Theory: The One Who Waits is the viewer, the one for whom other characters are surrogates, the one who repairs the fourth wall once broken, the one who attended the author's funeral, the one who anticipates the next episode, and the next, and the next, and is ready to get angry at them all.
8:00 That so beautiful. And than at the end when he plays this last note. The whole idea of music of not existing which makes world dull and grey people are depressed.
The Doctor doesn’t know the precise year or date when it happened, so he can’t go back to change before that guy played the chord.
algo time! welcome back gals 💖🖤
This episode was SO FANTASTIC!
The one who waits is called Chris, his name has been in huge letters throughout the episode. Or it just could be coincidence. Something to think about.
Meatro's circus outfit at the end is a marching band uniform reminescent of "The Beetles Sargent Pepper's Club Band' album....the 4 Beetles wore different colored marching band uniforms
I feel like there is something important in how Maestro knows they have an audience and is performing for that audience, is summoned by music but wants to destroy it, demands attention but ultimately wants solitude. Maybe everything set in motion when The Doctor invoked magic at the edge of the universe has more of an idea of their place in the narrative as characters. Perhaps only characters from outside of the baseline universe can have that awareness, even fleetingly, and break the fourth wall? Hmm, wasn't there a timeless child from another universe found...
ooohh, cool theory!
oooh interesting!
Jinkx is awesome, Thanks Y'all
5:56 Actually, they didn't, at least for the exterior (don't know about the interior). They actually dressed up a street in Cardiff as the exterior to Abby Road.
Jinkx Stole this Episode! She made Maestro her Own!!
It was shot in bad wolf studio's in Cardiff, wales
I loved Jinkx in this role!
I never watched Drag Race and had no idea who they were. My sister doesn't watch Doctor Who but she loves Drag Race. So I asked if she was familiar with Jinkx. Turns out they were in the Seattle theater scene together and she totally knows them and Jinkx had to drop out of a play they were in together to do Drag Race. I thought that was a cool thing.
okay that IS cool!
11:41 Didn't you notice that they skipped 7 months of adventures between Space Babies and this episode? Ruby's first TARDIS trip was during Christmas but now it's July and Ruby knows the Doctor long enough to call him out saying that he never gives up when he says he can't defeat Maestro.
I wonder if future episodes address this because they visited Carla's flat and then skipped to what happened there afterwards?
More likely RTD is just building in gaps for future Big Finish / Multi Doctor / tie in novels or comics / cartoons to fill in - instead of trying to cram everything into the gap between Waters of Mars & End of Time like with Tennants first run - or ending up like Eccleston's only Season where there are no good / obvious gaps for future writers of spin off media to play around in due to how tight the continuity is between episodes - there's basically a gap between The Doctor Dances & Boom Town, so after Jack joins, but fitting in extra stories involving just the Doctor and Rose is tough without heavy handwaving.
I watched this episode just last night. Was Jinx really belting those notes? Impressive! Love Ncuti and Millie! They have great chemestry together! And Millie is just gorgeous, in every way.
I honestly don't recognize the song that Ruby's playing as her theme at 9:20 but WhoCulture says it is sooo. Although I'm not sure I've heard The Doctors theme as distinctly as at the end of The Giggle, either. I want it to be as prevalent as I am The Doctor and I want to work out where the piano run-down is, in the bar.
I just wish the whole episode was a full on musical. Really we only got one number.
Ruby remembers because of the first episode. When she stepped on the butterfly the Doctor had a throw away line, that he had to turn on the 'butterfly circuit whatever its called' .. For me this was the explanation how companions can remember altered timelines. He said something like "new face new configurations (something along this line) thats why she became a lizard.. :D
This one definitely broke that 4th wall a bit, which probably irks me more than anything else. It was such a good episode though and my issue with that end musical number is Jinkx could have maybe made them do that routine mid episode and it would have made more sense. However maybe that musical number at the end will make sense by the end of the season. We'll see. It is likely to be a divisive episode, but even though it wasn't a fave of mine Jinkx' performance was outstanding in this. The season has started off quite well IMO.
FYI, the episode wasn’t filmed in London. It was filmed in and near Cardiff, like most episodes.
I love the digetic/ non-diagetic bit. Also the Dr talking about Susan
My theory about ruby is that Susan is her mother and the show will end with ruby being revealed as a time lord
13:54 love that dr.who foreshadowing gave me the chills on how ominous it was and whats to come.
The chord is the last note of Day in the Life
I don't know if everyone will agree with me but i'm just gonna say it 😂Jinx for me is instantly one of my favourite villains in Doctor who easily top tier both camp and absolutley terrifying i'd easily put her top 5 amazing episode and amazing reaction guys as usual 😊
Love you girls, best reaction to Dr who I know, keep it up, look forward to the next one ❤
aw thank you!
I love you girls! You are so in sync with your reactions, even with one word! Keep it up. Want to see you in more movies. You would be great as the Discworld Agony Aunts 🤔
That episode was 100000 times better than the first episode. I don't mind having an episode miss, you can't please everyone all the time and all that. What stood out was what I call the 'sinister silly' aspect of this, where things were unhinged and seemed silly, but was very dark. I confess, I'm super stoked to see what Moffett does. Moffett and RTD working together as a team always felt like peak Who (I really wish we could have had a few episodes written by RTD while Moffett was showrunner). Great fun watching your reactions, I had to wait until I could watch it with a friend before I could watch your reaction.
Loved the episode, Jinkx was over the top, and i loved it. I'm liking that this season, the showrunner is mixing things up a bit.
And while the musical number was a bit out of character for the series, it kinda makes sense. With the Toymaker's arrival, the rules of reality are being broken. For instance, when 15 duplicated 14's Tardis, its was the residual energys for the toymaker( and one could say the bi-generation itself was a result of that). With the defeat of The Maestro, the residual musical energy was still around, which is why everyone was dancing and singing.
at least that's my headcannon.
Oh, Timothy you *poor, unfortunate soul* !😅😅
I absolutely LOVED this episode!
I suspect the 4th wall breaks are more than a gimmick. The Pantheon can rewrite reality, and given that the two we’ve met so far - The Toymaker and The Maestro - are tied directly to the concepts of artifice & performance, I suspect that The Doctor & Ruby are trapped in a kind of cosmic Truman Show. It may even turn out that Ruby isn’t “real,” but just a character made up by the big bad (The One Who Waits) for this cosmic production.
Also, The One Who Waits is Susan. And The Doctor is an orphan from The Pantheon.
Just my guesses.
OK, about that scan of Ruby... the render/3D model they used is actually for the Ruby action figure. Seriously!
Never apologise for making observations about the acting, it's one of the best features of your reactions!
I think the day they go to is when Doctor Who started.
I know RTD said Tennant wouldnt come back... But 15 said that he split his soul in half with the bi-generation.. What if 'the one who waits' is the Valeyard played by David Tennant.. I cant really think of who else 'the one who waits' could be apart from maybe Omega?
A new character wouldn't really work imo with they way they've built whoever they are up
I would give back all the sins if The Doctor said "Come with me if you want to sing."
Well, all the artforms are externalizations of inner emotional need. As Paula said, a catharsis, as is autistic stimming. The artforms that we have are accepted and long encultured languages. Of course, when artists have stepped out of the accepted forms, we have anything from mild controversy to outright hostility and anger - as happened with the impressionists back in the late 1800s who faced harsh opposition from the conventional art community in France and as with Jazz with it's improvision over traditional structure which was seen as barbaric and immoral. King George V was known to swear at flappers if he saw these young women and believed them to be a threat to the moral fibre of the nation. Margot Asquith, the wife of Prime Minister, Herbert Asquith, described him as a “dunderhead.” - a lunkhead or a dunce! I'm not immune to a bit of improvisation whilst doing the chores - sometimes around the tune of Grace's rabbit! It's a way to start the day. Mr Toaster sings along.
One Halloween our cat got into the candy basket. She always stole the Milky Ways. Then she INSISTED we hold them for her while she licked the top. She'd stop when she got down through the caramel layer. It was the only part she really wanted. One year she got spooked and whacked a tiny box of Milk Duds across the room. It became one of her favorite toys. She never tried to get the candy out. She'd whack the box and chase it up and down the hall like a premiere league soccer player. It went on for years.
Oh, so in addition to being fans of Doctor Who, Star Trek AND Red Dwarf...you two love Whoppers!! This cannot be a coincidence! Yeah, this one was a trip, wasn't it?
I will say this for RTD - pretty much every Who episode he's had a hand in, there's (just about always) a memorable concept, character and/or villain, unlike some showrunners where I'm looking at their series and can barely remember what happened in half their stories.
Space Babies was a very weird concept, but I actually quite enjoyed it (despite me really not liking the episode it reminded me of, the one featuring the Adipose), and I'll definitely remember it in Doctor Who's history. Same for this one - I'll remember it for Maestro and some excellent musical nods, and gloss over the musical number at the end. I just presumed they'd finished editing and realised they were a few minutes short at the end of the episode. Next time they're short, they could do a filler like 'The Adventures of Ned Flanders', except it'd be, oh let's say, 'The Adventures of Cherry Sunday'.
You don't put together a huge production number like that just to fill up a couple of spare minutes! That was absolutely intended to be the ending all along. How else do you celebrate victory over a creature that tried steal Music, except with, well *music*?
The giggle is part of the final song.
I need someone musical to tell me if the notes Paul gave the doctor where part of the chord to banish maestro
My theory: When the Toymaker said "The show has just begun..." in The Giggle, he wasn't referring to the puppet show. The puppet show hadn't started yet. He was referring to Season One. The whole season is a "game" he's playing with the Doctor... except the Doctor hasn't figured it out yet. Remember, The Giggle was woven into television broadcasts and the Toymaker specifically lauded humanity's deceit and mind-games. It stands to reason that he might *create* a mind-game in the trappings of a television show... and wrap that trap around the Doctor. Also, the second TARDIS came from the winning condition of the Toymaker's game, so he may have some influence over where and when it travels. Everything happening this season is well within the Toymaker's machinations.
Also, before the bi-generation happened, the Doctor 100% *INVITED* the Toymaker to come travel with him. It's entirely possible that such an invitation was all the loophole the Toymaker needed to persist in playing with the Doctor... while keeping to the letter of his own rules.
This was so much better than the first one . I thought Jinks was terrific as the Maestro . As Kat& Paula pointed out the Beatles were good enough for their part in the story , shame about Cilla . There were more hints and pointers to the rest of the series and it was a much better story . Ncuti and Millie were more like the Christmas special , in Space Babies I felt they were a bit flat . Finally 1963 was never this colourful and the end dancing was pure Disney , a pity they couldn't have used a song the Beatles actually did . I always enjoy the gals reactions and it's nicer when I agree .
Yes , I know the guys name came out wrong but if you want to Please please me - DON'T try to tell me how to fix it .
The ending was full on RTD. He stated before he always wanted to do something like that. Season 3 had big musical numbers by The Master for instance.
You guys should chec kout the BTS video of this episode.. they talk about the thought process behind Jinkx's costumes and the music - it's really good
I enjoyed this episode - apart from the musical number ending. Nice nods to the past, and Maestro is a villain of the time - if they were on 60s Batman, they'd fit right in. Maestro's personality reminded me of the titular Queen of Time - a lost story from the 2nd Doctors era and sequel to The Celestial Toymaker. Big Finish adapted it and its worth a listen. You might find some familiar tropes...
Did either of you notice the woman serving the meals in 1963? (Possible spoiler........... The same actress played a maid at the beginning of "Wild Blue Yonder", and she also popped up as a woman watching Ruby's band in "The Church On Ruby Road". Coincidence? Probably not!)
Not a coincidence when you know the actress's name is Susan Twist....
9:32 This scene is so touching. Old this people hearing it getting emotional
And don't forget folks ....There's always a twist at the end...😂😂😂
or a Twist...
THANKS for this!!!!! Music is clearly our focus and theme for 15 in 14.
The texture of the music notes in this episode remind me of liquorice.
Well, it takes all sorts ;)
@@ftumschk hahahaha
The one who waits, Amy is the big bad confirmed.
8:12 That is so fucking scary. I was so genuinely scared by Maestro
Imagine if Ruby is related to Susan?
enjoyed it 10 times more than Space Babies.
for me that's quite a low bar
I wish Disney had coughed up some royalty money for the Beatles songs and The Twist... damn dinosaur budget blowing out
prediction: Ruby is the final boss. Ruby is not real. Perhaps an object was left with her?
Once again, I agree with Paula , and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the musical notes didn't look quite right. I liked 90% of the rest of the episode, the Maestro was great, loved the 'silence' scene.and the mention of Totter's Lane and Susan was very well done. If I was a bigger Beatles fan I might have been annoyed at how little they were actually in it, but I'm glad it wasn't just a Beatles tribute disguised as a Who episode, that would have been too much.
There's only two other things I didn't like. The first is minor - I thought they overused the fourth wall break a little. I can forgive Maestro doing it because they're an all powerful being who can manipulate reality,, but the Doctor? And then the end musical number... I would have been fine if, like everywhere else in the episode, it had been used to somehow further or wrap up the plot, but the plot was done. This was a meaningless song and dance number because RTD wanted it in there, nothing more. It stretched the episode for seemingly no reason. I'm fine with DW being more musical, but give it some purpose.Overall though, a big improvement on episode 1 and talking babies.
7:00 okokok, but that's the neighbor right?? The neighbor who suddenly knew what a Tardis was? From the Christmas special? I think she was in episode one too. I think she's the new Bad Wolf.
8:54 oh I love that theory. That would be absolutely dope. Like she's been checking up on him.
OH WAIT is it???
@@PaulaDeming I think so?! But I'm not sure. I'd have to take a closer look at the credits too.
@@PaulaDemingNo it's not. Ruby's neighbour, Mrs Flood was played by Anita Dobson. We haven't seen her again, but I'm sure we will.
The tea lady here is played by Susan Twist, who was Isaac Newton's maid in Wild Blue Yonder, an audience member at Ruby's gig in Church, and one of the crew on the screen in Space Babies.
At the end when they're on the roof the billboard had someone with a last name of weights on it
"Chris Waites and the Carrollers" is a really deep cut. In the very first episode in 1963, An Unearthly Child, Susan is listening to John Smith and the Common Men on a transistor radio. Ian surprises her with is knowledge of popular music by stating: "John Smith is the stage name of the honourable Aubrey Waites," he explains. "He started his career as Chris Waites and the Carollers, didn't he, Susan?".
@@OldManFerdiad awsome trivia, thanks did not know that
@@OldManFerdiad There's also an audio, _Fanfare_ _for_ _the_ _Common_ _Men,_ which is all about this group...but also all about The Beatles. It was part of the 50th anniversary celebrations, one of a trilogy of stories set in 1963. Weird but fun, though I think you have to know a fair amount about the story of The Beatles to get the most out of it.