The wall in this game is infinite and I'm not just referring to ranks or limit breaking SSR, it's the SSR+ that will matter the most at the very end end game (floors are probably endless) and getting them to full limit break takes more than 5-10 years per unit and I bet they will release more than 5 SSR+ every year and f2p or even small spender wouldnt be able to catch to whales who grows exponentially faster than everyone else.
@@kojigoon with the daily login pass (3 of them), you get about 120k+ gems a month. That's p2w spender getting 200 more pulls every 28 day than f2p players. In a year, they would have done 1400 pulls more than every f2p player without counting the battlepass that gives you 56-60 pulls and other packs avaliable. This basically what I'm trying to get at here, whatever f2p players get, the p2w players will get it too. So the gap will stay exponetially farther, heck, if they limit break SSR to maxed than f2p, the chancess of trading already maxed SSR dups for SSR+ in the exchange shop is even much earlier for those people. The more we get, the more they're winning. You can't come into playing this game and expecting it to be as f2p as a single player gacha game but if we're also counting a potential release of more SSR+ units in the future, this is not remotely fair for other f2p players in the long run. Games like these, repeatedly releasing new servers, don't last long either. It might even get shutdown in 3-4 years' time so even if you dedicate yourself like crazy to this game, you won't experience the fun of getting your SSR+ to full LB before the game dies.
Idle games are best designed for people who works irl. People knowing even their day is gonna be busy, they will still progress in the game because of the idle loot.
Ya know for an idle game which was supposed to for ppl who work IRL. This doesn't have function where you auto progress each stage. Bcz each chapter has around 36 to 40 stages You really expect a person who is working to sit through all those 40 stages mindlessly click next ? So to complete let's say 4 chapters you have to sit through around 160 stages. What an absolute bore fiesta.
@@somakun1806 welp you can either make it a suggestion to the devs, and if they dont listen just move on to the next game that will satisfy your needs 🙂
Started playing on the day of the launch. Got only 2 SSR+ after 400 summons but I pulled almost all SSR characters and I'm on 9-20. You just gotta grind and upgrade often.
I got so lucky with my first 200 pulls, pulled 2 SSR+ and like 15 or so SSR (only 3 ten pulls didn't wield me SSRs). Then, the next 200, I only got 3 SSR, with the guaranteed SSR+ - I'm pretty set for the future. And I don't even feel an itch to spent even 1$. I basically have 18 SSR characters, not including dupes, and 3 SSR+
true. its all about having fun on the game. if you are having fun in the game, being f2p-friendly or p2w is irrelevant i do wish we get better rates or a pity for SSRs tho. badly need dupes on them after all
p2w if u wanna competitive, every other game is like that as well, i bet if someone play games for a long time gonna realize that, especially in gacha games
eh. In epic seven, eventually you can get top arena rank as f2p if you are good enough. Plenty of youtubers have done it. I myself get to Champ arena in about a month f2p. Of all the gachas ive played, Eversoul and Epic Seven are the most fair. Eversoul is almost too generous lol
Its a netmarble game, so obviously its P2W if your aiming for high tier pvp. I usually find a F2P approach more enjoyable though as you value a good pull or reward way more.
I mean its a game. I just play for fun spend a lit bit here and there. As long as you enjoy the game play it and dont compare ur self with the person on the top of the ladder. As one once said comparison is the thief of joy.
Sometime its just best to reroll again as a F2P as some account are just cursed in luck,my 2nd account was much better as i got a lot of dupes on Hatz so i dropped my main in general.
Ya know for an idle game which is supposed to for ppl who work or ppl who jus wanna have fun This doesn't have function where you auto progress each stage. Bcz each chapter has around 36 to 40 stages You really expect a person who is working to sit through all those 40 stages mindlessly clicking next ? So to complete let's say 4 chapters you have to sit through around 160 stages. What an absolute bore fiesta. Heck those who don't even work it's becomes very boring n mindless. I'm just waiting for reverse 1999. Definitely not happy with this idle game. As a huge tog manhwa fan ...I was very disappointed after playing this game.
I'm stuck at chap6 on story, just got only 5 ssr on 200 pull (+1 on pity and evan on pity too) ; i don't want to redo all again, i've reroll 2 days without any ssr+ and now i think to stop it :/
I rerolled so much the game became unfun. I got evan, karakara and date mashcenny in just 179 pulls. I cant play it anymore its unfun because of how much i rerolled.
you are correct. i say this in the video. if you dont get the units then u will be slower. its the nature of the game. would you like me to apologise to u for rerolling and then getting evan at 200 summons?
If you treat the game like a normal game and expect instant progress, your setting yourself up for failure and calling the game P2W. Its a time investment, the more you invest the more your rewarded.
Im very patient, like extremely and I enjoy these games a lot and cant get why people complain about it being slowly, its just a game after all 😂 you’re right mate.
Bro u are fking kidding, im trying to get past 6-40 and i m playing for 5 days... i m trying to change teams, upped equips, lineups... like cmon man wtf I m at 190/200 so maybe after this 🥱
Been playing 8 days now, with evankhell, data zahard, karaka, maschenery. Im stuck at 8-40 and cant even kill a single one of them. Should i reroll evan to have fun while im stuck?🥲
You forgot to mention that F2P = Wait2Win (You just slowly level your team and then eventually you can beat the wall.)
The wall in this game is infinite and I'm not just referring to ranks or limit breaking SSR, it's the SSR+ that will matter the most at the very end end game (floors are probably endless) and getting them to full limit break takes more than 5-10 years per unit and I bet they will release more than 5 SSR+ every year and f2p or even small spender wouldnt be able to catch to whales who grows exponentially faster than everyone else.
@@Qopaexactly if they want to avoid that in this game they need to give out a lot of free stuff like they are currently doing
W2w😂
@@kojigoon with the daily login pass (3 of them), you get about 120k+ gems a month. That's p2w spender getting 200 more pulls every 28 day than f2p players. In a year, they would have done 1400 pulls more than every f2p player without counting the battlepass that gives you 56-60 pulls and other packs avaliable.
This basically what I'm trying to get at here, whatever f2p players get, the p2w players will get it too. So the gap will stay exponetially farther, heck, if they limit break SSR to maxed than f2p, the chancess of trading already maxed SSR dups for SSR+ in the exchange shop is even much earlier for those people. The more we get, the more they're winning.
You can't come into playing this game and expecting it to be as f2p as a single player gacha game but if we're also counting a potential release of more SSR+ units in the future, this is not remotely fair for other f2p players in the long run. Games like these, repeatedly releasing new servers, don't last long either. It might even get shutdown in 3-4 years' time so even if you dedicate yourself like crazy to this game, you won't experience the fun of getting your SSR+ to full LB before the game dies.
Idle games are best designed for people who works irl. People knowing even their day is gonna be busy, they will still progress in the game because of the idle loot.
Facts
Ya know for an idle game which was supposed to for ppl who work IRL.
This doesn't have function where you auto progress each stage.
Bcz each chapter has around 36 to 40 stages
You really expect a person who is working to sit through all those 40 stages mindlessly click next ?
So to complete let's say 4 chapters you have to sit through around 160 stages.
What an absolute bore fiesta.
@@somakun1806 welp you can either make it a suggestion to the devs, and if they dont listen just move on to the next game that will satisfy your needs 🙂
@@galland6689 already did ....even opening of game felt like a chore
@@somakun1806why don't u use macros.very simple
I've never understood what "Winning" is on an idle game.
Started playing on the day of the launch. Got only 2 SSR+ after 400 summons but I pulled almost all SSR characters and I'm on 9-20. You just gotta grind and upgrade often.
I got so lucky with my first 200 pulls, pulled 2 SSR+ and like 15 or so SSR (only 3 ten pulls didn't wield me SSRs). Then, the next 200, I only got 3 SSR, with the guaranteed SSR+ - I'm pretty set for the future. And I don't even feel an itch to spent even 1$. I basically have 18 SSR characters, not including dupes, and 3 SSR+
I have beeen stuck on 6-28 for like 2 days. It's impossible for my roster. RIP. Wish SSR+ at 200 summons was a selector not a roll
it is a roll, but you get to 1 free roll. so it's 2 roll in total
true. its all about having fun on the game.
if you are having fun in the game, being f2p-friendly or p2w is irrelevant
i do wish we get better rates or a pity for SSRs tho. badly need dupes on them after all
p2w if u wanna competitive, every other game is like that as well, i bet if someone play games for a long time gonna realize that, especially in gacha games
eh. In epic seven, eventually you can get top arena rank as f2p if you are good enough. Plenty of youtubers have done it. I myself get to Champ arena in about a month f2p. Of all the gachas ive played, Eversoul and Epic Seven are the most fair. Eversoul is almost too generous lol
Its a netmarble game, so obviously its P2W if your aiming for high tier pvp. I usually find a F2P approach more enjoyable though as you value a good pull or reward way more.
To be fair the prices for p2w stuff is outrageously expensive. Stupidly expensive that doesn't equal to stuff gotten.
This cashgrab of a game better be funding the production of the anime.
Dragon balls not had a new season and legends/dokkan are pretty much always topping the charts so i doubt it
its not just P2W its heavy P2W
I mean its a game. I just play for fun spend a lit bit here and there. As long as you enjoy the game play it and dont compare ur self with the person on the top of the ladder. As one once said comparison is the thief of joy.
Sometime its just best to reroll again as a F2P as some account are just cursed in luck,my 2nd account was much better as i got a lot of dupes on Hatz so i dropped my main in general.
Ya know for an idle game which is supposed to for ppl who work or ppl who jus wanna have fun
This doesn't have function where you auto progress each stage.
Bcz each chapter has around 36 to 40 stages
You really expect a person who is working to sit through all those 40 stages mindlessly clicking next ?
So to complete let's say 4 chapters you have to sit through around 160 stages.
What an absolute bore fiesta.
Heck those who don't even work it's becomes very boring n mindless.
I'm just waiting for reverse 1999. Definitely not happy with this idle game.
As a huge tog manhwa fan ...I was very disappointed after playing this game.
they can go cry about it being p2w I will slowly be number 1 and they are the reason why the game is running hurts to hear for you
So basically when your progression is stuck you should just reroll another account?
the rates for SSR+ is absurdly low dropped it cause it won't be fun in the long run
I'm stuck at chap6 on story, just got only 5 ssr on 200 pull (+1 on pity and evan on pity too) ; i don't want to redo all again, i've reroll 2 days without any ssr+ and now i think to stop it :/
It's a net marble game it's not free to play friendly
I’m at 8-40 f2p not using hatz and only 1 ssr which is the khun girl
Using only 1 SSR ?? Only use SR and R can reach 8-40 ???
Khun girl is SSR+
Comment gang rise up!
I rerolled so much the game became unfun. I got evan, karakara and date mashcenny in just 179 pulls. I cant play it anymore its unfun because of how much i rerolled.
That’s your fault not the game
Lol that’s not his fault, just because he wanted Evan or certain character. It’s just some don’t have the endurance to keep rerolling
@@danielshade4902why do you wanna keep on rerolling tho if you already got evan? Lol
@@mozart27th huh ? He didn’t mentioned he kept rerolling after getting Evan. Said he got meaning after all those reroll
Could have just paid $5 for an account and saved you hours haha
There all p2w once you hit a certain point they don’t give as much
f2p with karaka and Evan? LOL, Using just SSR, you Will crying dude
jngan malu maluin lah jdi orang lu pikira f2p gk bisa dpt ssr+ juga?
you are correct. i say this in the video. if you dont get the units then u will be slower. its the nature of the game. would you like me to apologise to u for rerolling and then getting evan at 200 summons?
If you treat the game like a normal game and expect instant progress, your setting yourself up for failure and calling the game P2W.
Its a time investment, the more you invest the more your rewarded.
Im very patient, like extremely and I enjoy these games a lot and cant get why people complain about it being slowly, its just a game after all 😂 you’re right mate.
@MarcoJuliian lol yea man i log in, collect my idole rewards and log out. And from time to time progress a fee floors and do events.
Using karaka to push floor 9 after 1 week of playing the game got so slow after chapter 7-20
im f2p but i got 5 ssr+ ,
ofc is ptw all games are ptw now
main account is stuck so having fun on my side account
yeah my main account hatz only has 2 dupes😂 maybe 3 might help
good game, but kinda boring and not too f2p friendly
stuck, do daily, stuck again, do daily. Nope
great for ToG fans, but not for me
just opinion
Imagine thinking a mobile gacha game isn't going to be p2w lmfao
Bro u are fking kidding, im trying to get past 6-40 and i m playing for 5 days... i m trying to change teams, upped equips, lineups... like cmon man wtf
I m at 190/200 so maybe after this 🥱
Been playing 8 days now, with evankhell, data zahard, karaka, maschenery. Im stuck at 8-40 and cant even kill a single one of them. Should i reroll evan to have fun while im stuck?🥲
Yesss you’re going to get him, lets go mate!
Wait and play other games
^ so agree, dont focus on one only