Honda Mower Won't Roll Back
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2018
- What to check if your Honda mower won't roll backwards.
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Great job. I got lucky. After thoroughly cleaning the axle area around both rear wheels, I heavily sprayed WD40 Penetrant into the areas where the shaft and the trans meet, and where the shaft meets the bushings. Moved the wheels by hand - difficult at first - and let it sit all night. Repated the process the next day, and haven't had a problem with it since. Hope someone gets lucky with this process also.
@Boogie Man I used a leaf blower and a wire brush. No removal of anything. One clean I sprayed the entire drive axle and got into the trans box. The key is letting it sit overnight, then manually move the wheels. At least that's what worked for me. Good luck.
The most simple straight forward video I’ve seen
Thanks for watching and commenting!
one of the best how to videos I have seen here on UA-cam. Very detailed with lots of notes of things to pay attention too and step by step on how to put it back together. Best of all not a lot of talk that has nothing about fixing the mower. Great job
Thank you. I am glad it's helpful.
Great instructional video, your video file has helped me immensely! Thanks for taking the time to construct and share with the public!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
From one Veteran to another thank you for your service and a great video. Solved my problem with my Honda in 10 minutes. Peace out !
Thank you for your service too! Glad it helped!
Cheers thanks for an informative video 🍻
Like your style, clear concise and to the point. Just subscribed.
Thanks!
Thanks for the great video. I took my rear wheel assembly, and didn't pay good attention to where all those washers go. This video is a lifesaver!
Thanks for saying so and thanks for watching and commenting!
Grear job making the work simplified and easy, GREAT
JOB. THANKS
Glad it was helpful!
I had the half moon keyways upside down and the orientation of the gear direction wrong as well. She’d work but it wouldn’t turn left or right only north and south. You saved my life as I almost poured gas on it! 🔥
She’s running like a champ again. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks a bunch for sharing a great instructional video, really appreciated!
Glad to do it!
Great tip! On older Honda SP models the axle sleeve inside the adjuster bracket will corrode and so it's good to shoot some aerosol white lith into the crease to keep rolling free.
cherokeefiddler I found that out last summer. I had to use a chisel to get one off. The wheel didnt want to roll. Both wheels were like that. Simply from sitting.
Thank you for this. I had a rear wheel that wouldn't turn so I bought a new wheel and replaced the pinion gear assembly and it still didn't turn. I watched your video about the pinion gear having to face the right direction and that fixed it for me.
Great to hear!
Really appreciate your pointing out the correct orientation of those pinion gears. I've watched a few other videos on Honda self propelled mechanisms and they will mention that you should get the orientation correct, but don't show or tell you what that orientation should be.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, best on the web, and I have watched them all. Thought you might say something about cleaning and re-lubrication.
Great suggestion!
Excellent video, thanks!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks man. On my Honda I cleaned and greased the pinions. Backup problem solved!
Excellent!
Good stuff, man! Thanks.
Thank you so much, it was a great video now I can take mine apart and see why mine won’t roll backwards
Glad to help.
Outstanding video. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
(I’m on my 2nd HRX217HXA and do all my own maintenance.)
Another related issue is that the two nylon bushings that live inside each height adjuster can get dried out and need to be greased. I did an overhaul on my drive system last year, replacing every component on the rear axle except the transmission itself, including all four of those bushings. Less than a year later the mower became VERY difficult to pull backward. I disassembled it to the point where I could move the transmission side to side so that I could work some grease into those bushings, and now it’s smooth again.
IMO, the major shortcoming of this mower is the lack of external grease points and it’s dependence on bushings where bearings should have been used. In some areas (I’m in KC), there is no choice during spring and fall but to blast everything out with a water hose. This drive design doesn’t like to get wet.
If you own one of these mowers, you should consider a good pair of snap ring pliers a required accessory. Preferably a pair with both straight bits and 90 degree bits (Channellock 927 is one good choice).
Thanks for sharing this great info!
I'm on my third. It's a horrible design. None of the transmissions last at all! I don't mind maintaining equipment, but this problem is inevitable and repeated.
Tobin Hutto I haven’t had a transmission fail yet. My first mowers transmission was working like new when I sold it, my current one still does after (7?) years. I mow a 1/3 acre 2-3 times a week.
@@KSMike1 I use them on .88 acres, once a week. March thru October. Every model has had locked wheels within months. I still use them because they start so easily and use virtually no gasoline for the work load. There's nothing I do destructive, and mowers are kept inside. The first model HRR2169vka rolled best the longest. The newest one, HRR216K10VYAA has only been used this season. I bought it on closeout last fall. Today, it locked up almost completely.
Tobin Hutto I really think someone could come up with a lube point modification if they really put their mind to it. IMO that’s what this mower needs.
Very helpful video. I just went out and cleaned up my pinions and keys. Wheels now work great. Although, maybe it's just nomenclature, but my pinion flats face the front of the mower, not the back, which is what I think I heard.
Everything I needed to know and see how it goes together before I start tearing mine apart. Thanks
You're welcome!
great video. try to figure out why I have play in in both rear wheel. sometime the wheels don't Move .
Nicely done, thanks for the info! 👍👍
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
First of all I want to thank you for an excellent video
I did all you described here and got all that cleaned up well
Problem is the wheels still don't roll backward,
I have a Honda HRR216k10V
It has the variable speed on the top of the handle
Any ideas on what's next
Thanks again I appreciate it so much
this is profesinonal repaired.he a good machanic
Thanks for sharing.
Great info. I just put a "new " transmission in one of my 217s. Everything is together correctly. I can change these in my sleep. Problem is it will lock backing up intermittently after the oil warms up. Even with cable unhooked it has more resistance than normal to pull backwards. Appears to be too tight from the factory. Set it aside and installed a used one. So its faulty. Problem is I bought it on online from USA to Canada. Shipping not practical to return it. Eventually I will put it in a mower for my own yard. It may loosen up with use. Not going to happen for commercial mowing. Keep in mind that even a new tranny can be faulty.
Yes, I have run into that problem too. "NEW" does not always mean "GOOD".
Thumps up. Good video
The core of the issue is the bushings on each side of drive shaft with the gears,, the shaft bearing surface itself needs to be cleaned of any corrosion with emery cloth and lightly greased this shaft needs to spin freely in each bushing otherwise it binds up the wheels when drive is released and the mower is pulled backwards..also make sure the drive cable is not adjusted to tight the drive needs to fully release when you release the handle , the wheels should not creep forward when slightly lifted off the ground with the drive handle released. follow the drive cable adjustment procedure in the manual..
Well said.Thanks!
I was about to mention this, about the bushing bores and axle shaft rust build up. Just here checking to see if the HRX217 has the same drive parts as the HRT216. 9 times out of 10 it those bushings when it won’t roll backwards, but this video would help if somebody had previously put the drive spurs on upside down. Or if it won’t go forward because the woodruffs are stuck in the down position in the spurs due to crud buildup, but if it’s to that point the bushings probably need their bores ran through with the 12GA barrel brush and the axle OD’s dressed anyways.
5:50 orientation, flats " towards" the back, arches towards the front because the gear must catch / lock to drive wheels forward.
Great video since my HRX217HXA has become difficult to pull backwards. Maybe I missed something, but exactly what did you do to fix the problem other than taking it apart and putting it back together?
He didn't say his wasn't working. He's illustrating the proper procedure to restore functionality to a unit not working.
I just finished repairing the loss of the wheel drive function on my Honda HRT2162TDA. I thought it was the transmission that had broken ($197.00 for a new tranny), but it turned out tightening the spring that fastens to the hand clutch solved the problem. By shortening the hook on the spring about 1/2 inch, the transmission was again able to engage the rear-drive axle. Since I bought the mower in 1992, I figured that was a small repair for a mower that old.
Great catch!
thank you very much my brother !!!
Any time
I'm a little confused. Very nice, detailed video but what did you actually do to fix it. it looks like you disassembled and reassembled the exact same way. Did you actually find out what was actually wrong?
The ratchet keys can be installed upside down and or the pinion gears can be reversed.
Good question. I was wondering that myself. Besides, If the pinion gears were reversed you wouldn’t get any forward drive.
Hi good man, take care god bless ,terry
I also clean out the groves of axle where spring and key reside with brakekleen and air dry. Lube spring galley with light oil not grease. Go easy on grease as dirt and debris sticks to it quickly.
Good tip! Thanks!
I was trying to figure this out to thanks
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Nice explanation of the parts and how they're assembled. I did a video on my channel that actually frees up rust on the shaft. I guess its just a poor design?
Build Motion -- Absolutely a terrible design, that allows -Everything- to get in between the bushing and the axle, that includes moisture, so there will be some rusting going on and all the dirt, grass, etc., that gets in there and also makes it harder to move this machine backwards... If it was not a rear wheel forward drive, we would also notice how hard it is to move it forward, but the engine, belt, etc., takes that load for that...
My neighbor just "gave" me a Craftsman EZ Walk Variable Speed
Model #917.370374 with a 6.75 B&S... he said it didn't run. I
cleaned the mower above and under the deck, cleaned the carb, added
fresh gas, primed it 3 times and it cranked on 2nd pull. Mower worked
fine going forward, but when pulling the mower backwards the rear
wheels lock up. However, the rear wheels do roll free in reverse when
the mower is NOT running. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Mark
I have 3 of the Hydrostatic (shaft drive) versions from different generations. Occasionally one will not roll backward when pulling out of the shed, but none have refused being pulled backward once the engine's running. Not sure what that would matter.
Still, I'll look at these now that I know what to look for on the ratchet gears, thanks.
Thanks for the comment. I have never worked on one of the hydrostatic machines so I have no answers for you.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness!
Thanks for the video! Question... my HRX217 doesn't seam to self propel as fast when speed knob all the way forward. Is these a cable adjust issue? belt issue? or something else? Thanks.
Try adjusting the cable first. If you have the manual, the procedure for this is included. If not a quick web search will get it for you.
Your belt is the next thing to check if adjustment doesn't work. You didn't specify which sub-model you have but if it similar to the HRX217 TDA then also check to make sure the return spring is intact and connected. I posted a video on the transmission removal that will help identify where this spring is.
Good luck and let me know if I can help further. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hi. Thanks for all your videos, I have been browsing them for help in replacing the return spring as mine broke. Do you have a video where this is covered? or - can you offer a quick hint how to replace it? I can't get figure it out.
Check the Honda shift cable lost footage video I just posted and let me know if it helps.
I have an HRX217 and it wont roll backwards. I have did what you said on the " key " half moon pins in this video and it still will not roll backwards. I have not replaced the transmission. Goes forward fine. Good job on your videos I have watched all 3 of the changing out the transmission. If I need to change out the transmission are there used / rebuilt ones out there ?
Possibly on Ebay.
You need to take everything off the axle, remove the bushings, clean them really good inside, perhaps have to smooth down the axle surfaces where the bushings go,, a little lube, and it will work fine until enough dirt, moisture, grass, etc., gets back in between the bushing and the axle, and you will have to do it again, Thank you Honda for this absolutely disaster of a design that should have had some sort of seals on both sides of the this axle/bushing place, so it would not allow dirt, etc., to get back in there again, and make us all have to go through this nosebleed, again and again !!! And yes, I will NEVER buy another Honda Mower...
I’ve got a weird one going on now. On my HRX217HXA, I service the pinions, ratchets & springs every two years, most recently this past spring. It ran & worked like a new machine all summer & fall. A few days ago I tried to use it to mow up some leaves (after sitting for 2-3 weeks); all was well for about 6 passes, then the RR wheel started locking up intermittently. By the time I got it back to the garage, both rear wheels were frozen in both directions, whether the engine was running or not. It was about 50F at the time, so it was cool but not freezing.
Tomorrow I’ll tear into it, but I’m pretty familiar with all those workings and I don’t understand how this is even possible. It doesn’t seem like it would be the transmission since the axle shafts don’t even turn when rolling forward with the drive disengaged, yet what are the odds of both sides locking up within minutes of each other, independently? It almost acts like the ratchets both came out somehow and got jammed between the pinions and shafts (not possible, but that’s how it feels).
This is a weird one. I suspect the ratchet key area. Check the keys, slots, springs and pinions for wear or debris. Let me know what you find. My email is in the description. Thanks for watching!
What a mess. I took the left wheel off first and laying down inside the ribs of the wheel were the outer snap ring, outer collar, pinion gear, inner collar, ratchet, and plenty of metal shavings. Basically all the drive related components on the left side came off. I have NO idea how that happened; again it mowed a good-sized lawn every three days from mid-spring to mid-fall, and never missed a beat. When I service this area I closely inspect the snap rings for wear, rounded corners, etc. and they were fine (maybe even new) in the spring.
With nothing holding the left side of the transmission assembly in place, the whole assembly moved from left to right, allowing the right side pinion gear to ride too far inboard on the axle shaft (the ratchet was turning normally but it wasn’t engaging the pinion because it was out of position).
The ribs on both rear wheels are bent and a little chewed up but I think they’ll work fine still. I think the pinions and springs are OK but one ratchet’s corners are rounded over so I’ll replace those.
The axle shafts still turn freely so hopefully the transmission is fine, but I’m not sure the right axle shaft isn’t badly chewed up. I guess I’ll go ahead and pull the whole thing out for inspection, shaft cleanup, replace shaft bushings in the adjusters, etc. Not looking forward to this.
Return for a full refund! These are a POS mower.
Great job on disassembly and reassembly. But, seems like you didn't address what was causing the locked wheel and what you did to fix it.
The ratchet keys can be installed upside down after repairs and cause this problem. Also the pinion gears can be installed backwards. The correct installation is ratchet key round edge facing into the axle slot and flat areas inside the pinion gear toward the rear of the mower.
@@veteranssmallenginerepair5934 You have pointed out one easy to make mistake. I know because I too once confused the direction of the pinion gear when reassembling the rear wheels. However, there's another more profound problem affecting certain Honda mowers and also preventing rollback that was the subject of a Honda service bulletin (#107). The axle bushing in the height adjustment plate was incorrectly sized causing the axle to corrode and bind. This requires replacement of those plates on both sides. (Some people report temporary success cleaning corrosion off of the axle where it passes through the adjuster bushing.) Although the Honda bulletin is from 2017, it only became well known after you posted your video in early 2018. In addition, poor cable adjustment can prevent easy rollback (and the cable adjustment itself is easy to get wrong). So there are at least 3 possible reasons why these mowers might not roll back. As far as I have seen - and I should say that I am just a Honda mower owner, and not in the yard machine trade - the transmissions do not fail.
I thought your observations and suggestion regarding removal and replacement of the rear wheels were helpful and clear.
@Boogie Man it’s not the wheels. The drive belt needs adjusting.
@@veteranssmallenginerepair5934 "toward" the rear, I agree. But in my book that means FACING the front. But I appreciated the clear explanation of the ordering of all the bits. That short bolts holding the plastic plate on is interesting. I don't have them on my 10 y.o. HRX 537. I have just a hole which I too k to be for grease. At a certain position of the lever the hole in the plastic aligns with a non-threaded hole in the metal plate. On one wheel the lever was frozen stuck by rust, hence I thought/think it's for grease. Everything removed (obviously dismantling more than undertaken her), wire-wheeled, two costs of spray paint lightly smeared with grease... But I wasn't sure about the order of all the bits!So this has been most helpful. Thank you!
@Boogie Man I saw a video a while back but can’t find it now. I think what’s happening is if the belt is still gripping the pulley just a little it’s not enough to move forward but locks the wheels up. The pulley has to be completely free from the belt for wheels to roll back. I bought the new Honda model last year and already my smart drive stopped working. I tried the cable adjustment and it allowed it to move forward however now it’s locking up the wheels in reverse. I looked at the belt and it looks worn ( I mow professionally ). I must of had to tighten it down enough to make it drive but now it won’t release the pulley. If I tab on the accelerator it will free the wheels up sometime. I’m going to put a new belt on and see if that fixes it
Flats? Facing? Unclear what you are terming 'flats' which must be 'facing' the back of the machine . Seems to be inside the gear cavity. Is it the horizontal slot? Being horizontal it is perpendicular and doesn't seem to have a rearward or forward orientation. One side of the gear faces the mower deck and the other side faces outward; again not facing the back of the machine. Thanks in advance for your clarification.
On the inside of the pinion gear where the axle shaft goes through, there are 3 curved surfaces and three flat surfaces that are perpendicular to the axle shaft surface. Search for a picture of part number 42661-VH7-000.
You should grease the inner surface of the pinion gears before reassembling. It’s in the owners manual.
Thanks. I missed that part in editing and should have included it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video and easy to follow! Do you have a video on how to get the bottom plastic cover off to gain access to the belt and gear box? My hrm 215 sometimes rolls back, but sometimes the wheels lock up and it seems to be when the drive bar doesnt fully return. So I re-engage and then disengage the drive bar and then it allows me to roll it back again but it has a lot of resistance and seems stiff with a lot of effort to pull the mower backwards. I think there might be something hung up on the cable that is preventing the sell propelled drive bar from snapping down and fully returning to the disengaged position. Really annoying! Any ideas on what to look for here or what might be the problem? Also occasionally the sell propelled will be working fine then half way through mowing it will just stop working. Belt looks fine.
I don't have that particular model but I found some info on one of the forums. 30year Tech on doityourself.com posted the following ;
"The rear baffle needs to be removed from the mower deck to access the transmission. To do this you need to remove two rear engine mounting bolts as this also holds this baffle in, then there is a bolt pretty much in the middle of the baffle that screws up into the discharge chute area, this bolt needs to be removed (look in the chute area directly above this bolt and you will see a threaded plate that sits in a depression in the chute, sometimes you need to spray some lube on it as they can get corrosion on them). Finally there is a bolt on the left side of the mower deck behind the drive wheel; this one needs to be removed as well as the spacer underneath the bolt. Once these mounting bolts have been removed then you can pull the baffle down and out of the mower.
With the baffle out, you will have access to the transmission and can rotate the transmission forward to gain slack in the drive belt for removal and installation. There should be a spring that hooks on the top of the transmission and extends back to a tab on the mower deck. this spring pulls back on the transmission to keep tension on the belt once installed.
Once the new belt in on the transmission then just reinstall the baffle and you should be good to go."
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replace wheel adjusters
Remove the outer snap ring, drive gear, woodruff key and spring store these parts in plastic bag. Install wheel push and pull mower manually with ease. My yard is relatively flat and not worth the aggravating wheel lock up pulling mower rearward. I could use the exercise. 😮
I had that problem with my wheels not turning when the lawnmower shop put mine back together wrong. I took it back to them and after that they put it back together the right way.
Glad to hear they corrected their mistake.
This is why I have a Toro Super Recycler...it's got grease fittings on both rear wheels
What brand of snap ring pliers you got there? I have several pairs and none are a good fit for Honda snap rings
I don't really remember which brand. Either HF or auto parts store brand.
I have LISLIE brand snap ring pliers, lifetime guarantee, about $ 20 Honda snap rings are tough !
@@paule.maurice1521 My problem was getting the prongs to fit the holes. Honda seems to make the holes smaller than most others. I found some that I'm satisfied with. I can't recall where I got them... ebay or HF. Lisle makes good tools but these will do. I love working on the Hondas. For anyone who doesn't know about boats.net check out their prices.
I have had great results with Channel Lock snap ring pliers
Same honda mower as the video on why your lawen mower won't rollback. How do you replace the slot that slides back and fourth between mulching and bagging. my slot rusted and my bolt no longer stays in. Thanks greg
Email me a picture of your problem please. Email address is in the 'ABOUT' section of my channel page.
Won’t the opposite side wheel gear slot face forward?
Fixed Mine 3 Weeks Ago
How would those gears get reversed in the first place to prevent it from rolling back?
Many reasons. Improper repair is the main reason. Sometimes they are just installed wrong.
I did have a Honda lawn mower repair shaft from rust wheels will not go backwards
Rust can cause this problem too. Good catch!
There is a punch mark on one of the teeth of the pinion gear. It goes toward the outside on the right; inside on the left.
Thanks GT, could you clarify one item, is it the right wheel as you are pushing the mower?
mjk3mjk3, yes. But IMO it’s easier to remember that the flats always go toward the back of the mower, as demonstrated in this video.
@@KSMike1 Yes, they go toward the back but that means FACING the front. Nevertheless I did wonder about those punch marks! Just checked on left side (or 'port' side for the person who asks 'left/right when facing the machine or when behind it?') which is in process of dismantling: with the flat 'facing front' in my terms, so it pushes against the key.
What’s the cause of not being able to adjust the height adjustment on one of the rear wheels? It is super stiff.
Sounds like you have some corrosion on the shaft.
If the sleeve corrodes, its all over, they will not roll. I had to cut mine off and order a replacement. If you dont, it will be plastic on metal.
I ment the wheel sleeve. Lightly grease the gear.
Great tip!
I need to know if their ia a spring that holds those two little wheels that the belt runs through hurl7497@gmail.com if you can please send me a picture of the assembly that would be fantastic
My HRX217 slowly stops as grass is being caught. 1st gear not really working, 3rd gear was typical, but when grass started being caught, the mower stopped moving. How do I tell if its the cable or the transmission?
I would try adjusting the shift cable first. It's possible that your belt is worn and stretched or the drive pulley on the motor is worn and not gripping the belt. Good luck!
No parts replaced? So what was bad about it? I didn't understand the cause of the problem here... it looks like you repaired it, then made the video showing the steps. It was awfully clean compared to mine smh...
No parts to replace. They were in backwards when I got the machine. The cause of the problem was a previous repair done by another shop. They most likely didn't pay attention when putting it back together, but at least they cleaned everything. This problem is quite common. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Why will my Honda hrx217 only turn to the right freely? I have replaced the wheels . But if you try to turn the mower to the left it binds up and will not turn that way easily. If I only turn the mower to the right it turns effortlessly
You have one of those gears on backwards...
@@frandanco6289 no sir both gears were on correct. Turned out to be wear in the shaft keyway and it would shift and bind up
I have a 217 series mower with similar problem but this does not seem to be the issue.
Probably the bushings on the axles. My started acting up today and I watched a few other videos before this one and they tore considerably deeper into the drive system. Pull the axle and sand smooth the area where the bushing slips over. Did you fix yours?
My honda push mower won't roll back and it was like that when I bought it. I did not realize this until I mowed my yard and then I thought it's because it is propelled.
Is there a lube required for the drive gear?
Honda says the transmission is non serviceable.
I meant the driven gear that is the final before the wheel .
There is a dimple on the gears. They face to the right viewed from behind.
Thanks for the lesson , I don't believe in inpact use on these either .
Impacts are not a necessity but they are a great time saver. Thanks for watching!
how do the components come out of order? if noone has touched it?
Sometimes they are incorrectly installed during manufacture.
Great video but it fails to show where the grease goes, should the axle be greased?
Only a small film to prevent rust on the axle if you feel the need.
Thanks for the reply
Did I miss the final reason for the problem with this machine? You took it apart & put it back together- what was the problem?
The ratchet keys can be installed upside down and or the pinion gears can be reversed.
Thanks. It appears that the pulling of the mower backwards has nothing to do with the transmission!
Yes. The wheel moves like a ratchet.
My mower makes a clacking noise when it’s rolling (not mowing and using transmission). Is this sound normal for this mower?
Yes
@@veteranssmallenginerepair5934 That’s a relief to hear. So, what is causing the clacking noise when the mower is rolling while off?
The sound you are hearing is normal while rolling /or turning the rear wheel (s).
An ATG's Ratchet Key moving up & down, ATG's Ratchet Key Return Spring pushing Key to hit ATG Pinion Gear.
The ATG Ratchet Key Return Spring & ATG Ratchet Key do wear out.
If you don't be careful removing the Pinion Gear, that Ratchet Key Return can fly out. Then it's going to be a bad day.
After seeing how Honda puts their own mowers together, I have to admit, its really well made. I hate the way they look, but there is no denying that it is the best push mower you can get to get the job done.
If the machine is brsnd new and wears a 30 some year old super in shape guy out then this isnt the problem. This is for when you have used the machine for a long time and this happens.
This happens with improper servicing and sometimes mistakes made from the factory.
Ok, but what was the problem? I looked at a disassemble en assemble of one rear wheel, but I don't know what caused the problem and what the solution is.
The ratchet keys that lock the axle to the pinion gears were upside down.
@@veteranssmallenginerepair5934 my mower is doing the same thing but never has been disassembled. Just needs to be cleaned? Great video by the way!
What was the problem? How did the clip get flipped upside down? Thanks.
Sometimes it is a manufacturer error and sometimes a repair shop might install the part upside down.
never said what was causing the binding. Debris?
After maintenance, the ratchet key that engages the pinion gear can be installed upside down, the pinion gears can be put on the wrong side or debris can jam the above mentioned parts.
@@veteranssmallenginerepair5934 What if you never had that off and is occasionally locking up? Comes and goes. Tried spraying WD40 and seems to help for a little bit.
Mine only drives one wheel and locks up every now and then any idea why it’s doing that
Check your gear pinions that drive the wheels. Clean them and make sure the parts are all there and not stuck. Good luck!
That happened to me on a Sears mower with a Honda engine. Gear bolt came out and got lodged inside wheel assembly. Took wheel assembly apart. Found the bolt and put it back into gear. Worked fine.
My sis has the personal pace. Her yard is like a plowed field abuse. Takes a licken an keeps on ticken. Hondas chassis is over engineered
Rugged little machines!
Bought a new honda in June, looking at this video 10 weeks later...not impressed!
They are good machines overall. Their problems are usually human induced: improper repair, improper maintenance, left with ethanol fuel in them for months at a time, etc.
I’ve owned two and would buy another. But that rear axle area IS high maintenance IMO, especially if you have to mow in wet conditions.
@@veteranssmallenginerepair5934 no, the propulsion design is poor, how is that caused by end user?
i did everything, grease blablabla, after like 1 month of use, again, not rolling back haha
I didn't see you fix anything. Just took apart and put back
Why hasn’t Honda stood behind their product
Who knows?
I'm your 666th subscriber just wanted to lyk
The sprockets have absolutely nothing to do with it not rolling backwards. Leave this problem to experts to fix.
I am always open to opportunities to learn new things and look forward to learning from your video showing how "The sprockets have absolutely nothing to do with it not rolling backwards". The shape of the cuts inside the gear pinion and their relationship to the ratchet key is how the axle turns the wheel going forward, and allows the wheel to freely move backward. Thanks for watching!
My Honda mower never rolled backwards since I purchased it brand new 9 years ago. I always thought it was a safety feature.
Usually it's the ratchet keys installed upside down by mistake.
@@veteranssmallenginerepair5934 thanks! I'll check it out
Other than the motor, Honda mowers are a maintenance hog! Poor design!
Some can be. It depends how they are cared for. I have a Murray and a Craftsman that demand much more attention. Thanks for the comment!
@@veteranssmallenginerepair5934 Hondas have a lot of parts and are expensive to work on.
Why wont you show your face. I think you have another channel, and your even Acting different
Sorry, no other channel. The videos are all about what I am sharing, not me.
That was way too complicated why did didn't you say whether these things were coming out of the factory that way or not. You might address why the throttle seems runaway overly sensitive do pressure variations when you're walking on uneven ground
Makes no sense. All you did was disassemble and reassemble the rear wheel mechanisms without pointing to any reason why the wheels won’t go backwards. No cleaning, no lubing. 🤪
Excellent video! Thanks so much.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video five star! Thanks
My neighbor just "gave" me a Craftsman EZ Walk Variable Speed
Model #917.370374 with a 6.75 B&S... he said it didn't run. I
cleaned the mower above and under the deck, cleaned the carb, added
fresh gas, primed it 3 times and it cranked on 2nd pull. Mower worked
fine going forward, but when pulling the mower backwards the rear
wheels lock up. However, the rear wheels do roll free in reverse when
the mower is NOT running. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Mark
From what I can tell your mower appears to have a similar drive system like the Honda in this video. Find an owners manual and see if there is a cable adjustment for the drive engagement. If there is, loosen the tension and give that a try. Let me know how it goes and thanks for commenting and watching!