I have a similar project going and it works good, used it late this winter during a power outage for 14 hours, "Off Grid Wood to Electricity Cogeneration System", I play with it and test the boiler using different engines and generators when I burn our garbage. Funny comments about blowing up and all from viewers that no doubt have not built or ever seen live steam. Good work, thanks for posting.
I have the same kind of idea to take a old vintage wood and coal fired J.I Case steam locomotive type boiler and hook a generator to a vintage horizontal steam engine to it on a belt drive system but im looking for a electric motor like this but i need help looking for the right electric motor for this application and hook a belt pully to it and i need hooking it up the electric to my house off the generator to produce enough electric to power for my drinking running water and to pump water into the working boiler while producing its own electric for the house and i want the locomotive boiler to also use its own steam to heat my house and i was wondering if your willing to help me hook all the wiring up correctly to my house off a generator to go off grid to produce 240volts for my house
@@dizzywilliams3557 _"Burning garbage???"_ Sounds like a great idea. Garbage accumulates. I would like to see it burned in a rocket stove because there would be a lot less smoke.
@@tybrady1935 *You:* _"...a rocket stove steam generator."_ *Me:* Even low voltage electricity could be stored in a bank of batteries and used with an inverter to recharge cordless devices. I think it's entirely possible especially if the grid fails.
Yep that’s quite controllable , really interests me this idea of steam pressure creating electricity, Great idea not a novelty but still I think it’s slipped under the radar a bit and needs thinking about
I love the small factor of this turbine !!!! Can we have a price tag for the turbine ? Does it come as a whole with the tank, the generator and the turbine ? We need more informations !!!!
Not that it matters not… 4 years and 4 months later But it looks like a 10kw generator unit, but who knows if that turbine is putting out enough torque for it… I have no idea what power those thing make
Just curious honestly, but doesnt anyone ever just use an actual external combustion steam generator instead of these boilers? Im talking about Abner Doble steam generator design. Considering it only heats up a quart or 2 of water at a time producing 700-800 degrees of super heated steam with very little energy loss continually.
True that, but the biggest downfall of your mentioned king, "Water Tube" boilers, is that they depend on near constant loads. For Doble's steam car, the mechanics involved with oscillating the fire on and off as well as the water feed pump that were well tuned by the genius himself. Building one as an amateur or hobbyist is very difficult to do as well as maintaining constant pressure at all loads. To achieve a near constant pressure at all loads, especially in a rapidly accelerating locomotive, a "Fire Tube" boiler is used, where there is large amounts of super-heated water ready to turn into steam at a moments notice, and thus, there is no need for complicated controls should you immediately shut of the turbine or what have you, it has capacity, whereas the water tube doesn't. Comparably, its like a high voltage capacitor vs a lead acid battery. One charges efficiently and delivers sharp bursts, but needs special attention to maintain voltage, the other delivers lower voltage at a far more constant rate despite loading and charges more inefficiently. I hope this answers your question.
I would suggest taking a look at Nikola Tesla’s improved combustion + steam turbine patents that patented in 1921, 10 years after the original turbine patent and about a decade of R&D. Everyone sleeps on the improvement patents and wonders why they can make their Tesla turbines work 🤭 Tesla Turbine Patent List by Nikola Tesla US Patent 1,061,206 & GB patent 24,001: the original Tesla disc turbine patent from 1911. Then almost all Tesla’s improved turbine patents, except the Tesla valve patent, were patented in 1921, the valve was done in 1919. Patent GB 186,082: improved disc stack design for more torque Patent GB 186,093: combustion + steam turbine with built in exhaust heat recovery boiler. GB 186,084: combustion + steam turbine superheater and concentric/coaxial multifluid nozzle that the steam draws a vacuum on the exhaust of the combustion mixing them as they enter the turbine. GB 175,544: hybrid Tesla Disc + Parson’s reaction turbine for utilizing the Reheat Factor of the energy lost to shearing in the fluid between the discs GB 186,799: process and apparatus for balancing rotating machinery for quality at-speed dynamic balancing. US 1,655,114: aerial apparatus patent with improved turbine nozzle design US 1,329,559: Tesla valve for pulsed combustion Tesla turbine. GB 179,043: Multi-staged High Vacua Pump with high volumetric flow rate for maintaining the vacuum in the condenser by removing any non-condensable combustion exhaust gasses from the condenser. All together it’s like a high pressure high Temp to inverted style Cheng Thermodynamic Cycle…. Though I for the life of me cannot figure out how the hybrid Rankine + Brayton cycle got named the Cheng cycle after Cheng in the 70’s when Tesla patents these systems in 1921 but that seems to be the way things go for Tesla 🤭
Hello guys, I have an idea that just popped into my head. What if I use the sun power to boil water to create steam. I am not an engineer and have no idea about this, but I saw a solar kitchen that uses the sun to generate froM 100 to 1000 Celsius. What if I use this same technology to heat water and use the steam to generate electricity?
With TesTur Energy, the mission is to give people energy independence through Combined Heat And Power (CHP) systems that can make use of underutilized energy sources like biomass, solar thermal, geothermal and even low grade fuels containing high quantities of solid particulates (like pulverized coal and powdered iron); energy sources/stores that are currently underutilized due to the lack of turbines and engines capable of handling the multiphase fluid flows (any combination of gasses, liquids, solid particulates) present in low grade heat boilers and low grade fuel sources without damage over prolonged/continuous periods of use.
Hello! I have been watching your test videos of the Tesla turbine and I'm interested in knowing more about them and running tests myself. I am wondering if the Tesla turbines are for sale and where I could order them from? I'm looking to operate the turbine at 800-1500 rpm with an output power of 20kW, would you know the required turbine size, pressure, and mass flow of steam in order to achieve that? If you would know a trusted retailer that can deliver one of these turbines to Sweden or if you know someone who might help me with this matter further, please get back to me!
low pressure, low power, low efficiency... In addition it needs a refund of water............I think vapour pressure can be better than diesel today...
Вот это да потому что правильно сделать являетесь России резко захотелось фантастика все права защищены советы совхоз или вы квартиру отопление батареи тепла надо пройти платить за газ зима что-то невероятное количество просмотров и не экономить деньги хозяин квартиру вообще выглядит выгодно купить паровой котельной топики платить штраф за электричество не нужен лучше бы я купил себе паровой котельной генератор ключей своими силами энергии бесплатно домов свой первый свете свидетельство светильники введите бесплатно холодильник 0 огpомное обогреватель для дома и офиса домами всю жизнь городам топить угодно выбираем угловой дровами лучше гарантия газовые котлы значит выбросить меньшей за загрязнение природы только всего лишь поменять деньги дёшево очень этому вопросу экономики. Спасибо за внимание понимаю гордиться собой тоже самое новое интернет сайтов. Рекламные объявления. Доска объявлений
Yes this! Tesla turbines get plenty of torque, output plenty of power and can do so even at low RPMs. They just have to be designed correctly to do so. There’s all the proof anyone could need to know this now. 10in diameter TesTur made from cheapo aluminum on room temperature compressed air Dyno’d at 6.22ft-Ibs of torque to the shaft at only 4150rpm and +4250watts between 6,000-12,000 rpm and real 250-2650watt electrical load test runs at 9,000-13,000rpm. The preliminary tests are just to see how much electrical power can be produced with room temp compressed air driving the Tesla turbine. The TesTur nozzles never went over 20psi at the nozzle for the 2650watt electrical load test and not over 40psi at the nozzle for the 4250watt dyno test. This is so a baseline can be acquired for what to expect as the temps are increased to combustion levels. When using elastic gasses the counterintuitive thing most overlook is that the viscosity of gasses goes up with temp. So not only is there an increase in thermodynamic efficiency from increased temps but the TesTur isentropic efficiency also goes up due to the reduced slip from the increased viscosity.
@@CharlieSolis Wórtice Energia brings solutions for mini and micro generation of electric energy through steam. Steam generated from residues and biomass. Our equipment is capable of operating at low flows and pressures. Contact me and request a quote. e-mail: carlosj@wortice.com.br Cellfone: (55) 41 99216-4744
hello friend i have an idea for you , connect the device so the water in the boiler is forced into the turbine by steam pressure , the water will drive the unit with higher efficiency
Why would you say that ? the whole point is to provide more power, Water hammer has nothing to do with my comment . car wash motors use the concept im describing and water hammer is only an issue if the water stops
NOBOX7 how are you going to stop two phase flow in pipes.... liquid cannot be compressed.....have you ever seen a 1500 psi waste heat boiler moving 3 feet in either direction....I have.....
i know what water hammer is and yes liquid can be compressed look up bulk modulus wise ass, you dont get my comment , i was talking about making a big squirt gun that sprays water into the turbine instead of steam i have done small test on this two phase flow has nothing to do with this you boil water and spray it out of the bottom of the boiler into a turbine or positive displacement pump and water hammer would benefit this process if any thing YOU GOTTA BUILD THE SYSTEM TO HANDLE THE BEHAVIOR . you cant do it attitude is the reason most ideas fail , go talk to your pessimistic friends
I am a retired navy Gas Turbine Systems Mechanic, with a specialty in fuel, oil, and boiler waters systems. And I approve of this message. lol
Hello Duncan, curious to know how many Kpa the steam pressure used to propel a big ship?
Sir can I get ur no.
I have a similar project going and it works good, used it late this winter during a power outage for 14 hours, "Off Grid Wood to Electricity Cogeneration System", I play with it and test the boiler using different engines and generators when I burn our garbage. Funny comments about blowing up and all from viewers that no doubt have not built or ever seen live steam. Good work, thanks for posting.
I have the same kind of idea to take a old vintage wood and coal fired J.I Case steam locomotive type boiler and hook a generator to a vintage horizontal steam engine to it on a belt drive system but im looking for a electric motor like this but i need help looking for the right electric motor for this application and hook a belt pully to it and i need hooking it up the electric to my house off the generator to produce enough electric to power for my drinking running water and to pump water into the working boiler while producing its own electric for the house and i want the locomotive boiler to also use its own steam to heat my house and i was wondering if your willing to help me hook all the wiring up correctly to my house off a generator to go off grid to produce 240volts for my house
@wisco kid
Burning garbage???
@@dizzywilliams3557 _"Burning garbage???"_
Sounds like a great idea. Garbage accumulates. I would like to see it burned in a rocket stove because there would be a lot less smoke.
@@awaitingthetrumpetcall4529
Yes, a rocket stove steam generator. Rocket stoves are very efficient and burn everything, even the smoke.
@@tybrady1935 *You:* _"...a rocket stove steam generator."_
*Me:* Even low voltage electricity could be stored in a bank of batteries and used with an inverter to recharge cordless devices. I think it's entirely possible especially if the grid fails.
Yep that’s quite controllable , really interests me this idea of steam pressure creating electricity, Great idea not a novelty but still I think it’s slipped under the radar a bit and needs thinking about
Isn’t a majority of the world’s electricity already generated using steam powered turbines?
This is what I have powering my home and blacksmithing and welding shop. I have a biogas plant to make the gas to boil the water and that's how work
Wow, do you have any videos on that?
I was wondering why there was a turbine sound when I paused the video, so I took my earphones off and realized it was my laptop fan :D
How much KW energy can it produce?
Nice, I dream to have one for my Biomass electric generator.
"Biomass electric generator" you mean.: illegal trash burner xD xD
@@godlesschannel7730 no, this could be biogas digester and then standard stroke generator 😁
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@@godlesschannel7730you are like one of those ones that force their opinions on others solar and wind is not the future sorry to burst your bubble
I love the small factor of this turbine !!!! Can we have a price tag for the turbine ? Does it come as a whole with the tank, the generator and the turbine ? We need more informations !!!!
❤
I had to turn off my computer before it blew up!
turn it off turn iT OFF!!
LOL
Where could I buy a steam turbine like that?
Its called a Pelton Wheel. you can make it your self if you just buy a lose Pelton Wheel online. or machine one.
WHAT IS THE POWER OUTPUT
Bro you didn’t even get a single reply in 4 years. I’m so sorry for you.
Not that it matters not… 4 years and 4 months later
But it looks like a 10kw generator unit, but who knows if that turbine is putting out enough torque for it… I have no idea what power those thing make
@@Jrojan 4 years 4 months and 7 days bro😆
7years dude
Just curious honestly, but doesnt anyone ever just use an actual external combustion steam generator instead of these boilers? Im talking about Abner Doble steam generator design. Considering it only heats up a quart or 2 of water at a time producing 700-800 degrees of super heated steam with very little energy loss continually.
True that, but the biggest downfall of your mentioned king, "Water Tube" boilers, is that they depend on near constant loads. For Doble's steam car, the mechanics involved with oscillating the fire on and off as well as the water feed pump that were well tuned by the genius himself. Building one as an amateur or hobbyist is very difficult to do as well as maintaining constant pressure at all loads. To achieve a near constant pressure at all loads, especially in a rapidly accelerating locomotive, a "Fire Tube" boiler is used, where there is large amounts of super-heated water ready to turn into steam at a moments notice, and thus, there is no need for complicated controls should you immediately shut of the turbine or what have you, it has capacity, whereas the water tube doesn't. Comparably, its like a high voltage capacitor vs a lead acid battery. One charges efficiently and delivers sharp bursts, but needs special attention to maintain voltage, the other delivers lower voltage at a far more constant rate despite loading and charges more inefficiently. I hope this answers your question.
800degree steam is uber high pressure steam... takes some metal to contain that, and work around it.
I would suggest taking a look at Nikola Tesla’s improved combustion + steam turbine patents that patented in 1921, 10 years after the original turbine patent and about a decade of R&D.
Everyone sleeps on the improvement patents and wonders why they can make their Tesla turbines work 🤭
Tesla Turbine Patent List by Nikola Tesla US Patent 1,061,206 & GB patent 24,001: the original Tesla disc turbine patent from 1911.
Then almost all Tesla’s improved turbine patents, except the Tesla valve patent, were patented in 1921, the valve was done in 1919.
Patent GB 186,082: improved disc stack design for more torque
Patent GB 186,093: combustion + steam turbine with built in exhaust heat recovery boiler.
GB 186,084: combustion + steam turbine superheater and concentric/coaxial multifluid nozzle that the steam draws a vacuum on the exhaust of the combustion mixing them as they enter the turbine.
GB 175,544: hybrid Tesla Disc + Parson’s reaction turbine for utilizing the Reheat Factor of the energy lost to shearing in the fluid between the discs
GB 186,799: process and apparatus for balancing rotating machinery for quality at-speed dynamic balancing.
US 1,655,114: aerial apparatus patent with improved turbine nozzle design
US 1,329,559: Tesla valve for pulsed combustion Tesla turbine.
GB 179,043: Multi-staged High Vacua Pump with high volumetric flow rate for maintaining the vacuum in the condenser by removing any non-condensable combustion exhaust gasses from the condenser.
All together it’s like a high pressure high Temp to inverted style Cheng Thermodynamic Cycle….
Though I for the life of me cannot figure out how the hybrid Rankine + Brayton cycle got named the Cheng cycle after Cheng in the 70’s when Tesla patents these systems in 1921 but that seems to be the way things go for Tesla 🤭
Check out the steam generators Saab tested in their steam car project in the 1960-70s
How much horsepower in that size turbine?
I'm guessing the generator was dumping into a heater element in that insulated tank next to it?
What does the blade that is running this turbine look like?
Is there any pictures or videos of this taken apart? I’m a journeyman millwright by trade and I’m looking to build something like this
The easiest way to do something like this is with a Tesla Turbine.
10 nozzles, at displacement of 36 degree and angle of 45. Can you tell me the pressure please?
Hello guys, I have an idea that just popped into my head. What if I use the sun power to boil water to create steam. I am not an engineer and have no idea about this, but I saw a solar kitchen that uses the sun to generate froM 100 to 1000 Celsius. What if I use this same technology to heat water and use the steam to generate electricity?
Jose, lookup the "Ivanpah solar power facility".
With TesTur Energy, the mission is to give people energy independence through Combined Heat And Power (CHP) systems that can make use of underutilized energy sources like biomass, solar thermal, geothermal and even low grade fuels containing high quantities of solid particulates (like pulverized coal and powdered iron); energy sources/stores that are currently underutilized due to the lack of turbines and engines capable of handling the multiphase fluid flows (any combination of gasses, liquids, solid particulates) present in low grade heat boilers and low grade fuel sources without damage over prolonged/continuous periods of use.
Put one in a electric truck, as a range extenter. Use propane. Put one in your house for hot water and electric. Use wood pellets, propane, whatever.
Dont you mean Pelton turbine?
I cant find much info about Paxton turbine besides the paxton car.
those are hydraulic turbine
Yes the pelton turbine.
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By skipping around the video, you can play a tune :D
Very nice demonstration btw.
Please....got a video from the rotor of the turbine ?
Hello! I have been watching your test videos of the Tesla turbine and I'm interested in knowing more about them and running tests myself. I am wondering if the Tesla turbines are for sale and where I could order them from? I'm looking to operate the turbine at 800-1500 rpm with an output power of 20kW, would you know the required turbine size, pressure, and mass flow of steam in order to achieve that?
If you would know a trusted retailer that can deliver one of these turbines to Sweden or if you know someone who might help me with this matter further, please get back to me!
I may know just the place for you to get a TesTur from.
@@CharlieSolis Kan jag få adressen till försäljaren .
@@maunomaattala5720 TesTur Energy
This is a wet steam turbine? What steam temperature is required and how many kW output can it give?
I’m curious to know this too.
What’s the rpm on that? What frequency AC does it generate?
Hi where can I find a steam turbine and alternator similar to this one?
TesTur Energy
Very good job 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Will that fit in my Civic?
What size generator? Looks about 15Kw.
How much KW it generates
How much electricity?
What are the steam input & exhaust of turbines? What is the power generation
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Wow. She's a beast.
😀😀😀😀👋طريقه مبتكرة و حلوه لكن عليك بعزل راس التوليد عن البخار حتى لا يتعطل
Sería interesante saber cuántas precios se necesita Tendría que ser una presión constante😅
Is the turbine akin to a Terry type? Buckets and the like.
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need new bearing in shaft
Any idea about the turbine efficiency?
No ideas yet??
@@elyaperestigli2774 nop
Нихрена сибе Пепелац,да на нем в космос можно.🚀🛰️😋👍
no reduction gears ?
Thats what I was going to ask. Would any kind of gear box be beneficial?
Does it need one of its only going 1800 or 3600rpm?
Where can I find one of these for purchase?
walmart
ua-cam.com/video/VdNhZTSYQgw/v-deo.html
TesTur Energy
Without overspeed trip valve?
what is the psi pressure
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Leakage in front (HP ) gland is not stoppable
How many RPM's is that thing spinning? Steam powered go kart?
These should be used on Electric locomotives and EMUs.
how much hp does this make at full force ?
ua-cam.com/video/VdNhZTSYQgw/v-deo.html
What's the input and output rpm?
ua-cam.com/video/VdNhZTSYQgw/v-deo.html
How much is it?
Price ?
Wonder how much in generated
How much steam pressure does it use
For the size I'd assume 150psi..
هل أنت مهتم بالمحرك التوربيني!؟
it is abuot 40-50kv.
How does it perform under a load?
Sure it does fine, if you want an example, please refer to your local coal fired power plant.
Just like your mom.
@@Briebabcock8052 I see from your many comments you’re pretty knowledgeable about steam. What’s your background in?
@Charlie Solis Construction (welding, heavy equipment operation, DOT work), trucking and precious metal mining.
@@Briebabcock8052 right on!
Looks like my laptops fan while running simulation software or playing pubg
Sounds like a Detroit diesel
But yet not watt readings, no amps, no other significant measurements to show that it works efficiently.
I’m curious too. Did they mention what kind of turbine this is?
Kitne Ka hai ye turbine KW
so
around 3.22 Kw
low pressure, low power, low efficiency... In addition it needs a refund of water............I think vapour pressure can be better than diesel today...
Bravo
🤔🤔🤔🤔 غلاية و مولد و محرك توربيني هل هذا ممكن 100%
استهلاك الوقود اكثر من استهلاك محرك ديزل لدوران المولد
Innefficiency at 100%. 🤔🤔
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Please help with the idea of generating electricity your brother from Syria and we have no electricity because of the war and I do not work
Is there any oil available?
@@gregorymalchuk272 yes we have a coal
It's gland seeling not good ❤
I have a requirement, please reply
Why didn't they use the likes of these to power electric locomotives?
They had already been building piston steam engines when the turbine was invented.
👍👍👍👍
😮😍🤩💖👍‼️
👍👍👍👋
peace out
Control steam leakage
ништяк
twitter.com/19a514960ca769826/status/719079525670395904 to geeeet rеal free gаmes Steаm Turbine
يفضح عرضك.. شو دخل إللي حطيتو بالموضوع
Вот это да потому что правильно сделать являетесь России резко захотелось фантастика все права защищены советы совхоз или вы квартиру отопление батареи тепла надо пройти платить за газ зима что-то невероятное количество просмотров и не экономить деньги хозяин квартиру вообще выглядит выгодно купить паровой котельной топики платить штраф за электричество не нужен лучше бы я купил себе паровой котельной генератор ключей своими силами энергии бесплатно домов свой первый свете свидетельство светильники введите бесплатно холодильник 0 огpомное обогреватель для дома и офиса домами всю жизнь городам топить угодно выбираем угловой дровами лучше гарантия газовые котлы значит выбросить меньшей за загрязнение природы только всего лишь поменять деньги дёшево очень этому вопросу экономики. Спасибо за внимание понимаю гордиться собой тоже самое новое интернет сайтов. Рекламные объявления. Доска объявлений
use tesla turbine
Yes this! Tesla turbines get plenty of torque, output plenty of power and can do so even at low RPMs.
They just have to be designed correctly to do so.
There’s all the proof anyone could need to know this now.
10in diameter TesTur made from cheapo aluminum on room temperature compressed air Dyno’d at 6.22ft-Ibs of torque to the shaft at only 4150rpm and +4250watts between 6,000-12,000 rpm and real 250-2650watt electrical load test runs at 9,000-13,000rpm.
The preliminary tests are just to see how much electrical power can be produced with room temp compressed air driving the Tesla turbine.
The TesTur nozzles never went over 20psi at the nozzle for the 2650watt electrical load test and not over 40psi at the nozzle for the 4250watt dyno test.
This is so a baseline can be acquired for what to expect as the temps are increased to combustion levels.
When using elastic gasses the counterintuitive thing most overlook is that the viscosity of gasses goes up with temp.
So not only is there an increase in thermodynamic efficiency from increased temps but the TesTur isentropic efficiency also goes up due to the reduced slip from the increased viscosity.
@@CharlieSolis Wórtice Energia brings solutions for mini and micro generation of electric energy through steam. Steam generated from residues and biomass. Our equipment is capable of operating at low flows and pressures.
Contact me and request a quote.
e-mail: carlosj@wortice.com.br
Cellfone: (55) 41 99216-4744
hello friend i have an idea for you , connect the device so the water in the boiler is forced into the turbine by steam pressure , the water will drive the unit with higher efficiency
NOBOX7 guess you never operated turbines or have heard the term "water hammer" ....lol.....
Why would you say that ? the whole point is to provide more power, Water hammer has nothing to do with my comment . car wash motors use the concept im describing and water hammer is only an issue if the water stops
NOBOX7 how are you going to stop two phase flow in pipes.... liquid cannot be compressed.....have you ever seen a 1500 psi waste heat boiler moving 3 feet in either direction....I have.....
NOBOX7 The Number One Problem in a Steam System-Water Hammer - Swagelok
i know what water hammer is and yes liquid can be compressed look up bulk modulus wise ass, you dont get my comment , i was talking about making a big squirt gun that sprays water into the turbine instead of steam i have done small test on this two phase flow has nothing to do with this you boil water and spray it out of the bottom of the boiler into a turbine or positive displacement pump and water hammer would benefit this process if any thing YOU GOTTA BUILD THE SYSTEM TO HANDLE THE BEHAVIOR . you cant do it attitude is the reason most ideas fail , go talk to your pessimistic friends
И чё ?