Here's the article to go with this vid: gosforthhandyman.com/2018/06/how-to-use-threaded-inserts/ Bit more information in there including which way 'round they should be installed. Enjoy! 👍
Your advice about using the impact driver with a screw and bolt to insert it was EXACTLY what i needed to finish my project. I'm glad i watched this video first before starting. Sometimes it's the small details that make a world of difference! Thanks again!
omg these are so cool! I never realised how easy they would be to do. I build all my furniture and always concerned about taking them apart, this is fantastic.
I use a few hundred of these a month - the hex key type with a flange (Type D, the ones you used are type E with no flange/collar). I cut a straight bit off a hex key so that I could use a drill to drive them in and used a grinding wheel, with the bit in the drill, to create a rounded section at the end to sit inside the nut, so the whole thing becomes a mandrel. The nut sit nicely on the end while I introduce them to the hole and start drilling (screwing?).
awesome video, I got some threaded inserts for mounting speakers into a custom bluetooth speaker box build with MDF. I actually had a selection of items to try, I wanted T-nuts in the right size, but none were easily found. However M6 slightly tapered insert nuts were available from my local hardware. They are Hex, and I would have never thought about using a locking nut on a M6 bolt with it, it will save the hex on the insert and keep it looking nice without risking mangling it up.
This is the first video i saw on your channel and i loved the simplicity of it and the tips you gave. People like you inspires me to make my own DIY channel. You gained one more subscriber. Keep up the good work
All manufacturer's instructions I've seen indicate slot to be down and aids in clearing the debris when installed, the slot is not intended to be used for insertion via a screwdriver and will most likely strip out especially if brass. Have yet to see any designed for slot up.
@@duanemellott2347 yeah, I tried a screwdriver for the brass to do a 'quick little project' and I started turning it with not much pressure at all and it broke clean in half at the slot. Tried it on a few more to make sure it wasn't some defect in the material and not my ignorance to the situation.......There was no defect....
I've got the inserts with the screwdriver slot and screwing them in has never been a problem. However, I liked your idea of the screw and locknut alternative.
If you are using as washer under the nut the insert will be flush with the surface and if you clip of the hex part of the screw and put ist direkt in the machine you get much more control.
I knew about cutting the hex off and basically using the screw part like a drill bit (I have that ready to go, already) but not the washer to make the insert flush with the surface. Thanks.
I need to install a few of these into hardwood, so I bought the stainless version, along with the mandrel and a couple new drill bits of the correct size. Tried the first one, but it gave me trouble, and the mandrel slipped off just before the insert was all the way in. I was thinking maybe this job needed wax or other lubricant, but apparently I just need to be more careful. Thanks for the video, I'll give it another go.
Keep uploading such content. It's a Fantastic video. Explained Well. Fortunately, I met someone, a Woodworking mentor, who changed my life. Excellent work, Waiting for your next video.
I'm also about to mount a 16mm Melamine board onto my new Advwin Standing Desk Frame Electric 'No Desktop' and I think this is an ideal way of attaching nuts to Melamine boards.
I'm just trying to fix a pair of dining table chairs, idk anything about wood working I'm starting to look into it Now that I know what those metal things are called My anxiety has lowered now lol off to Home depot thanks for the upload I never gave wood working a chance but its hella interesting but calming. Has a past life type feel idk Peace
The depth the screw will go, the thread count on the screw, and the width of the screw all matter. For the toughest applications, you want it as deep and wide as possible, and I believe the more threads the better. To do rough checks on your sizes, you can use some basic statics equations to find the "moment" exerted on the bolt (in the worst case) and look up your bolt and see if it can withstand that torque. Or skip the middle man and use bolts big enough that you don't have to worry
I am purchasing them online and i have no way of measuring them, I just know the insert i am buying is classed as M10 I take it that is 10mm, which is clear so far. But what is 10mm here exactly? The type of bolt it accepts after i put the insert in place? The diameter of the hole i should drill to screw in the insert into? in that case, what bolt diameter should i use for an M10 insert? is it the diameter of the insert WITH the threads? (which means i need to drill a hole smaller than 10mm??) Please help, i am lost
I need to attach 29" legs (CAROLINA LEG CO. Chunky Farmhouse Table Legs - Unfinished - DIY Furniture - Turned Legs - Set of 4 - Dimensions: 3.5" x 29" ) to a round table and plan to use Mounting Plates Set 5/16" Furniture Leg Attachment Plates Industrial Strength T-Plate with Hanger Bolts Screws. The set has 4 inserts described in this film. Do you put insert into the leg or into the table? Or it is better to buy extra inserts and put them into both? Thank you for the informative film.
So that's what their called! I got a high end cosplay costume I'm making where everything has to be modulated so It can come apart when needed for repairs or to store away. Bolting in the plastic & resin overtime means the holes will wear out too quickly.
Thank you. Very useful. I have a threaded nut in my dinning room chair base which allows me to screw in wheels. The inner thread has gone and the wheel comes off. I have tried to freshen up the thread inside but it's now worn out. I think I need to removed the threaded nut. Can you advise how to be do this and replace with a new one? Thank you!
Hello I have a wood footboard for a king size bed looks like the is a threaded insert in the wood so how do I attach the footboard to the metal frame….. Thx
How do you decide what diameter of nuts should be used? I'm plan to put together a table top and an underframe but don't know what thickness and length would hold strongly
This is exactly what I need for my Cobalt flux pad. You need to unscrew the panels from time to time to clean it. And now there's no wood gripping the screws anymore.
Might be a stupid question, but do you think you could use threaded inserts into compact laminate? The compact laminate I'm working on is 12.5mm thick, I'm thinking 8mm threaded inserts. Not sure how the laminate will take to the inserts.
Some say this method is how you're supposed to install these because the slotted side is there for cutting the thread not install/remove. You can remove the insert with lock nuts.
This is exactly what I need to be able to repeatably remove my solar screens to clean my windows. Why the heck don't solar screen installers do this in the first place? I knew what I needed, but didn't know what they were called. Thank You!
what should I do if i need to unscrew the bolt, which is very tightly screwed into a threaded insert, such as the hip pivots from an Aeron chair? I really need a way to clip the insert in place so I can turn the bolt back out of the insert.
Hello sir, I would like to show us how to get it out when it will be very difficult on a metal, I found a lot of problem when treated is screwed up inside the metal. thank you so much
Billy Smether Cheers Billy! The slots on these are for screwdriver install - you get hex drive or slot drive in this range. There are other types though e.g. for in plastic where the slot goes to the bottom. 👍
Up or down. Either or both. Since a screwdriver is not used to install the insert in this video it makes no difference whether the slot is up or down. The reference to Shop4Fasteners makes no reference to up or down. One manufacturer of inserts, EZLOK, sells a driver (search "ez lok insert tool”) that engages the slots for installation. In this case the slots would, of course, be up. However, their very own instructions indicate that it is possible to use the method in this video with machine screw and nut, and in such a case the slots should point down (search "ezlok insert instructions” and then look for wood.) Additionally, if the slot functions as a thread cutter in metal (as the Shop4Fasteners reference indicates), it will do so in wood. If a screwdriver is not being used, slot down is perfectly acceptable.
I use them on walls with resin fixing. If you insert them with a bolt in place the thread stays clear. Put a bit of grease on the bolt to stop the resin sticking to it.
If used outdoor, after getting exposed to the elements, if got rusty, will the insert come off when unfastened ??? and in that case could it help to use apoxy glue or equivalent while inserting the insert ???
Thanks for the video. Do you never use any kind of adhesive to ensure they don't unscrew themselves when you remove the machine screw? Or do they always hold themselves firmly in place?
I need to 90° butt joint some 25mm plywood. I had thought of using Barrel Nuts / Cross Dowels because I was afraid these threaded inserts could split the plywood when I insert them into the edge. I have got some threaded inserts, I have measured as you do in the video and I would need to drill a 7-8mm hole. What do you think? Would this be likely to split the ply? I don't really want to faff around with the barrel nuts if I can help it :-) Great tip for tightening them !! Thanks!
Check around to confirm but I’ve been taught that the slotted side is the “cutting” side for self-tapping properties and should be inserted into the wood. Helpful video in that the way to install a wood insert is by using a screw or threaded rod with a lock nut however, this one was installed upside down! 😯
Here's the article to go with this vid: gosforthhandyman.com/2018/06/how-to-use-threaded-inserts/
Bit more information in there including which way 'round they should be installed. Enjoy! 👍
Gosforth Handyman Hi where can I purchase these from
This is greatly helpful! One more question, when I predrill should the hole be slightly smaller than the insert nut?
@@kcharm1310 no
Thanks, It's really helpful.
Your advice about using the impact driver with a screw and bolt to insert it was EXACTLY what i needed to finish my project. I'm glad i watched this video first before starting. Sometimes it's the small details that make a world of difference! Thanks again!
omg these are so cool! I never realised how easy they would be to do. I build all my furniture and always concerned about taking them apart, this is fantastic.
I'm a big fan of threaded inserts. Great tip on using a screw & locknut to driver the insert in. Thanks
👍🛠👍
THANK YOU! I needed a way to tighten up a poorly designed garden bench. This will make all the difference!!
I use a few hundred of these a month - the hex key type with a flange (Type D, the ones you used are type E with no flange/collar). I cut a straight bit off a hex key so that I could use a drill to drive them in and used a grinding wheel, with the bit in the drill, to create a rounded section at the end to sit inside the nut, so the whole thing becomes a mandrel. The nut sit nicely on the end while I introduce them to the hole and start drilling (screwing?).
Absolutely brilliant tip with a bolt and nut thank you very much I should be using that in the near future
I knew what I needed but I couldn't think of what they were called!! Thanks so much!!!!!
Thanks, your vid has brought me into the world of 21st century fixings for wood. (Had been using expensive anchor nuts)
love these little guys - when putting them in with a locknut, i put 'em slot down, looks nicer IMO - thanks for all the vids!
@_ David _ you know he meant 'em but you just had to say "them" like a little bitch
@@rushipatel2282 ?
This is some of the most useful videos on UA-cam.
Thanks mate
Wow what a great tip with the lock nut and impact driver. Blew my mind
So last month I found out what a RivNut is - and now I've essentially found a woodworking alternative. Awesome tip there man!
awesome video, I got some threaded inserts for mounting speakers into a custom bluetooth speaker box build with MDF. I actually had a selection of items to try, I wanted T-nuts in the right size, but none were easily found. However M6 slightly tapered insert nuts were available from my local hardware. They are Hex, and I would have never thought about using a locking nut on a M6 bolt with it, it will save the hex on the insert and keep it looking nice without risking mangling it up.
This is the first video i saw on your channel and i loved the simplicity of it and the tips you gave. People like you inspires me to make my own DIY channel. You gained one more subscriber. Keep up the good work
The moment I saw you use a lock nut I was like this man's a genius. That solved my problem, thanks.
It's a simple piece of hardware, but I didn't know how to use them even though I have some, so I'm glad you made a short video explaining it.
Much prefer using these to T-nuts. The threaded inserts are a lot neater. Great tip with the installation again Andy.
Shades Workshop cheers Brendan! 👍 🛠
Also I'm thinking that T-nuts are mainly mounted to the opposite side so they pull in instead of out when you tighten the screw.
What a great trick with the lock nut...I love your channel. Thanks.
Great tips and answered my question swiftly. Love it.
Really helpful video! Right what I needed! Thanks a lot!
Thank you for a crisp, short explainer!
Big thank you to you, man. That was an awesome video.
Very informative. Have always been puzzled as to how you install these "screws." Thank you for sharing the method.
Every video I’ve seen on slotted inserts, starts the debate on slot up versus slot down. 😂
Thanks for the content Andy.
Ha ha, yes. Some are design to go slot up, some are designed to go slot down. There are designed to go slot up. 👍😀
@@GosforthHandyman How do you tell the difference? They all look the same to me
All manufacturer's instructions I've seen indicate slot to be down and aids in clearing the debris when installed, the slot is not intended to be used for insertion via a screwdriver and will most likely strip out especially if brass. Have yet to see any designed for slot up.
@@duanemellott2347 yeah, I tried a screwdriver for the brass to do a 'quick little project' and I started turning it with not much pressure at all and it broke clean in half at the slot. Tried it on a few more to make sure it wasn't some defect in the material and not my ignorance to the situation.......There was no defect....
I've got the inserts with the screwdriver slot and screwing them in has never been a problem. However, I liked your idea of the screw and locknut alternative.
Fantastic explanations and demonstration!! I have learned so much from your video! Thank you!
Using the bolt is a top-tip, thanks.
Plain and simple thanks to you for this. It does help.
Cheers John! 👍🛠
If you are using as washer under the nut the insert will be flush with the surface and if you clip of the hex part of the screw and put ist direkt in the machine you get much more control.
smart
Like this idea
I knew about cutting the hex off and basically using the screw part like a drill bit (I have that ready to go, already) but not the washer to make the insert flush with the surface. Thanks.
Thanks for the tip bro, you're a hero !!!
Look at you rocking the vernier calipers!
Whaou!!! It's very easy that way, Thank you very much, I liked this video and also suscribed
Thank you for the Video, made it look easy; will give it a try. Cheers.
I need to install a few of these into hardwood, so I bought the stainless version, along with the mandrel and a couple new drill bits of the correct size. Tried the first one, but it gave me trouble, and the mandrel slipped off just before the insert was all the way in. I was thinking maybe this job needed wax or other lubricant, but apparently I just need to be more careful. Thanks for the video, I'll give it another go.
Thanks Andy, a really informative video. Will surely try these inserts
Keep the vidoes coming
Cheers Ravi! 👍🛠
Keep uploading such content. It's a Fantastic video. Explained Well.
Fortunately, I met someone, a Woodworking mentor, who changed my life.
Excellent work, Waiting for your next video.
Thank, I watched your video before buying some threaded inserts for the 1st time
This is what i will be using for my desk, just waiting for wooden desk top
Thanks Andy so much for sharing this 🙏
Would you recomend the use of these inserts in MDF boards? Thanks in advance.
I'm about to use them on malemin boards. Just what I needed it, awesome tip.
Thank you!
I'm also about to mount a 16mm Melamine board onto my new Advwin Standing Desk Frame Electric 'No Desktop' and I think this is an ideal way of attaching nuts to Melamine boards.
Genius idea, thanks for the help!
Nice tips with installing
Impact driver! why didn't that cross my mind earlier! Like all the best tips, this one was nice and simple :) Thanks mate.
Thank you so much! Making a table using salvaged legs with these fittings. I knew there was a trick with a nut but couldn't quite remember it!
Thanks Andy, this was very useful
I'm just trying to fix a pair of dining table chairs, idk anything about wood working I'm starting to look into it
Now that I know what those metal things are called
My anxiety has lowered now lol off to Home depot thanks for the upload
I never gave wood working a chance but its hella interesting but calming.
Has a past life type feel idk
Peace
Could you use this with hanger bolts to create removable legs on a fairly heavy table?
The depth the screw will go, the thread count on the screw, and the width of the screw all matter.
For the toughest applications, you want it as deep and wide as possible, and I believe the more threads the better. To do rough checks on your sizes, you can use some basic statics equations to find the "moment" exerted on the bolt (in the worst case) and look up your bolt and see if it can withstand that torque. Or skip the middle man and use bolts big enough that you don't have to worry
@@leprechaunne Thx mate
@@Horizon344 no problem, sorry I know it's a bit late, but good to know for posterity
@@leprechaunne I was about to say this
I am purchasing them online and i have no way of measuring them,
I just know the insert i am buying is classed as M10
I take it that is 10mm, which is clear so far.
But what is 10mm here exactly?
The type of bolt it accepts after i put the insert in place?
The diameter of the hole i should drill to screw in the insert into? in that case, what bolt diameter should i use for an M10 insert?
is it the diameter of the insert WITH the threads? (which means i need to drill a hole smaller than 10mm??)
Please help, i am lost
The bolt to use would also be called an M10
Great video, sir!
Awesome! Just what I was looking for
I need to attach 29" legs (CAROLINA LEG CO. Chunky Farmhouse Table Legs - Unfinished - DIY Furniture - Turned Legs - Set of 4 - Dimensions: 3.5" x 29" ) to a round table and plan to use Mounting Plates Set 5/16" Furniture Leg Attachment Plates Industrial Strength T-Plate with Hanger Bolts Screws. The set has 4 inserts described in this film. Do you put insert into the leg or into the table? Or it is better to buy extra inserts and put them into both? Thank you for the informative film.
So that's what their called! I got a high end cosplay costume I'm making where everything has to be modulated so It can come apart when needed for repairs or to store away. Bolting in the plastic & resin overtime means the holes will wear out too quickly.
Thank you. Very useful. I have a threaded nut in my dinning room chair base which allows me to screw in wheels. The inner thread has gone and the wheel comes off. I have tried to freshen up the thread inside but it's now worn out. I think I need to removed the threaded nut. Can you advise how to be do this and replace with a new one? Thank you!
That's funny. Came here to check out this as an idea. Looks like the fact setup and frame I went with
Great & well executed tutorial! Cheers 🥂 mate
Hello I have a wood footboard for a king size bed looks like the is a threaded insert in the wood so how do I attach the footboard to the metal frame….. Thx
How do you decide what diameter of nuts should be used? I'm plan to put together a table top and an underframe but don't know what thickness and length would hold strongly
How did you make the system of drawers up & behind you? I've been looking for an extendable system like that.
Very Helpful Video.
Thank you!
This is exactly what I need for my Cobalt flux pad. You need to unscrew the panels from time to time to clean it. And now there's no wood gripping the screws anymore.
How do you determine the thread size to use? Example: Attach something to a 2cm width what size insert should I use. Thanks.
the lock nut is a great idea
Five years later. Thanks for the info. That lock nut does the trick.
i want to use hex drive insert with resin, i need glue, what kind of glue i can use ? can i use no color silicone ?
Might be a stupid question, but do you think you could use threaded inserts into compact laminate? The compact laminate I'm working on is 12.5mm thick, I'm thinking 8mm threaded inserts. Not sure how the laminate will take to the inserts.
Some say this method is how you're supposed to install these because the slotted side is there for cutting the thread not install/remove. You can remove the insert with lock nuts.
This is exactly what I need to be able to repeatably remove my solar screens to clean my windows. Why the heck don't solar screen installers do this in the first place? I knew what I needed, but didn't know what they were called. Thank You!
what should I do if i need to unscrew the bolt, which is very tightly screwed into a threaded insert, such as the hip pivots from an Aeron chair? I really need a way to clip the insert in place so I can turn the bolt back out of the insert.
Very good idea! Thanks
👍🛠
Hello sir, I would like to show us how to get it out when it will be very difficult on a metal, I found a lot of problem when treated is screwed up inside the metal. thank you so much
Yea you got it right!! The slots are not for a screw driver install. They are there to help cut the thread, Most people install these incorrectly.
Billy Smether Cheers Billy! The slots on these are for screwdriver install - you get hex drive or slot drive in this range. There are other types though e.g. for in plastic where the slot goes to the bottom. 👍
Up or down. Either or both. Since a screwdriver is not used to install the insert in this video it makes no difference whether the slot is up or down. The reference to Shop4Fasteners makes no reference to up or down. One manufacturer of inserts, EZLOK, sells a driver (search "ez lok insert tool”) that engages the slots for installation. In this case the slots would, of course, be up. However, their very own instructions indicate that it is possible to use the method in this video with machine screw and nut, and in such a case the slots should point down (search "ezlok insert instructions” and then look for wood.) Additionally, if the slot functions as a thread cutter in metal (as the Shop4Fasteners reference indicates), it will do so in wood. If a screwdriver is not being used, slot down is perfectly acceptable.
Thank you this was very helpful
Thanks Andy. Another great tip 👍
Cheers Gary - happy Saturday! 👍😀
do I need to use an impact driver can I just use a normal electric screwdriver?
I use them on walls with resin fixing. If you insert them with a bolt in place the thread stays clear. Put a bit of grease on the bolt to stop the resin sticking to it.
Thanks just about to fix wheels to my bench !
Just curious as I have used these many times.. would you epoxy these in place or just leave them dry screwed in place?
Good tip Andy👍👍👍👍👍👍
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If used outdoor, after getting exposed to the elements, if got rusty, will the insert come off when unfastened ??? and in that case could it help to use apoxy glue or equivalent while inserting the insert ???
Anyone know where to get these inserts in an M12 thread? They seem to only go up to M10 thread from most suppliers.
Thanks for the video. Do you never use any kind of adhesive to ensure they don't unscrew themselves when you remove the machine screw? Or do they always hold themselves firmly in place?
Ken Pem they hold absolutely solid without adhesive 👍🛠
would you use epoxy under the threaded insert? I mean before you drive it in...just to secure it . I saw many people online doing so.
Would've been nice to see whether they should be glued into end grain and with what glue.
are these better than threading the wood with a tap and die sets?
i feel dumb. i would usually install these like in the video minus the nut. you're a good man
You saved my life 👍
I had one of these strip the wood and come out. Could I fill the hole with epoxy and then do this method? Is there any reason that that wouldn't work?
Thanks for information
I need to 90° butt joint some 25mm plywood. I had thought of using Barrel Nuts / Cross Dowels because I was afraid these threaded inserts could split the plywood when I insert them into the edge. I have got some threaded inserts, I have measured as you do in the video and I would need to drill a 7-8mm hole. What do you think? Would this be likely to split the ply? I don't really want to faff around with the barrel nuts if I can help it :-)
Great tip for tightening them !! Thanks!
Thanks Andy! I just bought some with no dims. You helped me!
I have the opposite problem.. How do I remove them (original hardware) from existing wood frame?
Check around to confirm but I’ve been taught that the slotted side is the “cutting” side for self-tapping properties and should be inserted into the wood. Helpful video in that the way to install a wood insert is by using a screw or threaded rod with a lock nut however, this one was installed upside down! 😯
Thanks man!
very helpful
Thank you
Really helpful. Thanks.
Thanks that's really helpful
Great, thankyou!