Is anyone going to ask Lord Darzi for evidence or an audit trail for the commission of this report? 9 weeks??! Seriously, when did work on this report really start? The outcome of which is pointing to privatisation. Who paid for this report? PFI - has stragled our NHS, burdened it with debt. Again - when was this report commissioned? Evidence/audit trail; who paid for it?
Along with every Tory health minister from Thatcher's time onwards. I worked in the NHS from 1983 to around 2013 and saw the mess governments made of it, especially the Tories with the major problem with Labour being that they bought into the neoliberal economic model and its lies, inclusive of the disastrous PFI, in terms of healthcare. As for improving preventive care and care in the community this was supposed to be the big change in the 1990's! I worked in a multi-agency (Health and Social Services) community team in dementia care in the 1990's and with an initiative with a Health and Voluntary Agency community service in the community in the late 2,000's. Profiteering in regard to health care, the well-documented corruption via the power of big pharma, the intransigence and careerism of some health care professionals and the engineering of the current health and social services shortages so that public money can be diverted into private hands are all what are causing problems in the NHS. We do need to get back to the basic principles of the NHS and, preferably, get rid of private provision. We do need good community care in public hand with reasonable pay and career structures to promote retention and we do need to so regulate the food industry, in particular, also big pharma as an (ignored) HoC Health Committee report clearly stated (2004 - 2005) and embark on a coherent strategy of health promotion and primary prevention. A laissez faire approach to health in community setting promotes the move of people from healthy citizens to patients requiring the health care the private sector profits from one way or another. Nicholas Csergo is fundamentally correct but feels too hospital focused. Yep we need to be tough on disease but also tough on the causes of disease which, at root, are fundamental to neoliberal capitalism not least from ultra-processed food, pollution and the psychological and social stressors this economic system causes. This has been well documented from the last decade of the 20th century at least, as has the corrupting influence of big pharma. The original dream of the NHS was to make the population so healthy that the need for hospital care would diminish. The real reason this dream was not realised was the health-destructive influence of capitalism, especially in its neoliberal iteration. This combined with the need to 'stuff the doctors mouths with gold' as Bevan stated, which gave private provision an in. The BMA has moved left and there is an organisation for socialist doctors but there is still a significant number of doctors who put their status, power and remuneration in the system above most other considerations. I have worked with some brilliant and compassionate and driven doctors but also some who were totally ego and financially focused. Just saying. All the best to you, great stuff.
Starmer will help enable the rich to loot the public treasury with no prosecution or legal recourse, then punish the middle class, working class, and poor with austerity, rinse and repeat... The suits, designer glasses frames, and the dresses are necessary costumes for the stage production...
What a bad remark, if the NHS is broken its not beaten . If broke its beat . Repair by removing private services so the NHS can't be broken again . JC 18/9/24 .
Well said David whitehouse in the comments. The most common way to lose your house in USA is medical costs. Write and demand your mp stops privatisation. It’s not good for us or our children! Barb
"Delivering profit through the denial of care" is a phrase that should be repeated often and across the scope of this government (as others). Labour under Starmer is just another facilitation agent in a long line of them - since Thatcher, of course. They literally make us sick.
Reform or die is a nonsensical statement. If the NHS dies we have no health system. People fail to realise the scale of the NHS system. It is huge and complex and is not replaceable.
Very true. People need to start appreciating what we have. They need to cancel appointments, as opposed to simply not attending. That is a waste of money. They think it’s free, simply because it’s free at the point of access. The taxpayer is paying for it.
I am having my cataracts fixed. The optician suggested that I could have them done by my NHS local hospital but there is a 5 months waiting list, or Medicare which I believe is an American company which would carry it out in two months. Private ops can be done inside my local NHS hospital and in Medicare. The Medicare is a small unit of a few rooms and waiting areas which could easily be fitted into a NHS hospital or a small extention. I have spoken to other people in my area who had the same op and were recommended to go to Medicare. I was told the same surgeons are doing the same work on private patients and NHS patients in the local hospital and under Medicare. I can only conclude that the surgeons are being paid more for NHS patients in Medicare than in the local hospital. It is all a con and allowing American companies to undermine our NHS. The NHS local hospital deals with more difficult eye cases. The surgeon takes 5 minutes per patient to carry out the cataract repair and the patients are being filed in one after the other to have it done. There is a lot of repeated prep and paperwork done by loads of nurses who are floating around all over the place repeating what the orevious nurse did. The Surgeon checks the paperwork and looks at the back of the eye and if he is satisfied you are in the op room and out in 5 minutes. You do feel cared for with all the relaxed smiling nurses fussing over you and so it does feel like they are being efficient but how much is it costing? I am sure a lot more than if the Op was performed using exactly the same team of Surgeons and nurses in the NHS hospital. And what is the extra cost to pay for the shareholders and the pharmaceutical company who supply the drugs - one person came up to me and said be sure to use both bottles of the eye drops as the second eye drop will sting and she continued the NHS hospital only give the second eye drop. It is nice the first eye drop stops the second eye drop from stinging but is it adding far too much to the cost - this is only one small item but I think if anything it is the pharmaceutical supplies to our NHS hospitals and our GP surgeries that need investigated - I am sure we would be able to replace far more nurses, doctors and beds if we did not have to pay so much for the thieving American pharmaceutical companies.
@@SheilaDerrick-i5d Medicare NHS. faculties is just adding to the NHS problem, has,they are given financial advantage, make the waiting times for poor patients longer, effectively queue jumping, if they had thier own hospitals then they would reducing waiting times, They're are making waiting times longer crating bigger market for themselves, as more frustrated people use it more business they generate for themselves, parasites living of the NHS, two more points if the NHS did not exist they would not be so many local hospitals and each on wold be in competition with each other you would then travel far and wide done treatments wold disappear as not, as profitable and with out the NHS the fees would try the roof. One more thing the government keeps wage cost low as it's paying they are paying them, as the right wing ring media complains, privitised it would be no one business and wages could sky rocket and also increase costs so that again
We are demonstrating in London for Gaza. We’ve been marching for the NHS for ten years, but everyone said they’ll never sell our NHS…well they have! Write to your MPs..in your thousands and your millions we all have a right to healthcare FREE because we’ve paid our taxes! Barb
Who is going to stop the drive to total privatisation? Politicians continue to complain about the amount of money that is spent on the NHS, even though it is questionable who actually gets it, but how are they going to spin a health system that is completely evident in America, because that is what the UK is heading towards. The amount of Americans that cannot even afford health care is what British greedy politicians are expecting us to simply accept, as well as limited care dependant on what money you can manage to give them. It is a fact that so many families in this country struggle to survive each month and many are in financial trouble even when both parents are in work. All this is totally ignored by Tories and Labour alike, with minimal objections from other parties. Our political system and it's accomplice media are steering the population to absolute ruin and non affordable health provision. Who will stop all this, as it seems that we will wake up one day to find we are in abject debt to an evil cadre of wealthy dominators, that can claim everything but will be at risk to a very angry population finally reacting too late.
the NHS was the best ran healthcare system throughout the 60s and 70s it was cost effective and low waiting times! privatisation is the problem and it's always not the answer.
The answer is to spend our taxes on public services, not creating a conflict then using that income on defence or clandestine operations abroad. This will stop future terrorism in its tracks too and make friends not enemies.
@@djonfonsteen6331 Correct . Spend taxes on public services . Dont give money from taxes to private companies, when the private company can get their money from the private customer . JC 18/9/24 .
Its no good for the NHS, when public money is given to private companies . In other words your tax and VAT contribution becomes a private companies direct profit, on top of the profit the company can get from a customer . JC/9/24 .
The building of new houses in 2024 with Barrets the builder, Lloyds bank, and Angela Rayner labour government is a three way Private/ Public funded house project . The 25% profit made by Angela Rayner will not be returned to the public purse, but given to Barrett builders and Lloyds bank . The public purse is kept empty, even onto becoming bankrupt . No wonder, why people feel the pinch of loss every day . Capital companies and organisations rule UK persons lives . The third owned UK American businesses rule UK peoples lives . JC 18/9/24 .
Resurrecting Thatcher's "care in the community" slogan should strike fear into anyone who stops to ponder what "care in the community" has meant for people with mental health issues. It has basically meant people are in the community and left to their own devices, with burden of care put onto the neighbours at zero cost to the State.
Yep, and when people were moved into community setting we had no extra budget or staff and were expected to provide the same level of care as in the hospital when it was a minute between patients no twenty via car in the community! The decanting of frail elderly people with dementia was a death sentence with over 70% being dead with eighteen months. On the up side, as one of the managers said in disgust, it meant that money was relased back into the NHS from the private nursing homes! Thatcher's economic policies, inclusive of her approach to the NHS, was predicted to increase excess deaths ('The Black Report' and 'The Health Divide') and did so to the tune of an estimated 6'000 PA from 1983 to 1997. Labour same set on a similar path, I hope that I am wrong but suspect not. All the best.
@@michaelel650 If you recall how Labour increased the privatisation of medical services (the Conservatives had mainly focused on privatising ancillary services if I recall correctly) during their last tenure in Number 10, whilst continuing to reduce capacity, I think we both know your suspicions as to what is to come is correct. It is shameful what both Labour and Conservatives have done to the NHS since the first budget cuts in the mid-1970's. In the London Borough of Greenwich where I live, there used to be seven hospitals. Now we are left with just one, which has never been fit-for-purpose, for a much larger and ageing population in the borough. Greenwich District Hospital, where I was a Pupil Nurse in the mid-1980's, was shut in 2003 by Labour, despite the Labour MP having campaigned to keep it open, saying we needed two hospitals due to the proposed population increase with the planned Peninsula developments, until Labour got elected in 1997, when he did a volte-face and supported its closure.
@@michaelel650I remember the Black Report. It was an extremely damming report, yet there was hardly any publicity about its findings. Sadly it was all correct regarding the north/south divide.
@@jaijai5250 I remember it well, I read it published together with 'The Health Divis' in the book 'Inequalities in Health' published in 1983. TBH I was shocked at how few Health Care Professionals were aware of these landmark reports a few years later. Hardly anyone does any more than pay lip service to the social causes of poor health in their practice. A more recent book is 'The Spirit Level' by Wilkinson and Pickett although both Marmot and Layard have covered the same ground. Added to this the venal corruption of both the food and pharmaceutical industries and even of academia and the regulatory bodies supposed to safeguard the public we are living in a perfect storm that the mainstream media either ignores or downplays whilst exaggerating any hew 'medical development'. It seems to me that a large proportion of the health professionals put themselves, their self-interest and maybe their profession well before the wellbeing of patients, much less the general public. During the Thatcher years, after the NHS 'purchaser - provider' split the largest number of enquiries to the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists was from managers asking how they might make a profit! As it was I think that only one service tried to go wholly private but lasted no more than a year. I think that it was the Rowntree Foundation that did a study where they estimated that the socioeconomic changes introduced by Thatcher, essential to the neoliberal economic ideology, resulted in 6,000 extra deaths per year from 1983 to 1997. Noting that she actively tried to bury the Black Report by publishing it in 250 photocopied copies at a weekend when some big event was on! Her socioeconomic choices resulted in more deaths of British citizens than any terrorists acting in the UK. I know kill a family and it is a horrendous tragedy, kill thousands and it is just a statistic! I once met Peter Townsend, one of the guiding lights of 'The Black Report' and asked if as well as an income floor below which no citizen should fall shouldn't there also be a ceiling. His answer was that he would prefer something closer to equality where income was related to the social good resulting from any job. Just saying. All the very best to you.
He means more privatisation and it doesnt work. He admires the US system, which is the worst healthcare system in the first world, with the worst outcomes.
He did a small surgical procedure for me at St Mary’s through my work’s private health insurance and he came across as arrogant and with little bedside manners!
This scares me , not for me but for my grandchildren ! My friend in the US died last year from breast cancer . All she obsessed about after having her two sons was working enough to get full health coverage Insurance , all she spoke about during her failed cancer treatment was what her health insurance did or did not cover , She died with that anxiety in her life . That’s what Starmer is offering citizens in the UK selling off the NHS.
Its not fair that the NHS contract private services who only operate for profit . All the money that goes into private services is not all used on the patient . 25% is profit that goes to the private directors . For every £400 going to private, the director gets £100 . For every £20,000 paid into private care for patient care£500 goes to the director to spend on overseas holidays, purchase of Italian gold and investments into the one third American companies that own businesses in the UK . All the private profit goes out of the country . On the other hand, if money is collected from VAT and income tax, the 20% profit made by private companies is used for patient care out of one pot of money . In other words, don't privatise the NHS . Give private companies push bikes to manufacture for profit, or solar cell panels or wooden handles for hand tools to make . Not to make NHS profit . JC 18/9/24 .
Of course "choice " is popular. Who is going to say that "choice" is a bad thing? But how do we choose? I suspect in most cases it would be a case of the physician being able to recommend HIS choice with a pitch of something like "You can wait 6 months to have your procedure in a tatty old NHS hospital with paint peeling off the walls or you can go to this shiny new private clinic (which I happen to own shares in) tomorrow."
This guy nailed what I have been saying! You ever tried mentioning to a gp (if you can get to see one) about 'problems' with the 'healthcare' system? Their reaction - or lack of says it all!!
That psyche hacking clap at the beginning of Darzi's video, unbelievable. There are no words that can express my visceral anger towards these charlatans.
''Care in the community'' - where have I heard that one before? Oh yes, I remember, when Thatcher thought it was better to kick a whole bunch of people with serious mental health problems out of hospitals on to the streets to fend for themselves.
NHS drs are moonlighting in private work because they're fed up and seeing how they can earn more. Leadership has been affected and we DO have a deficit of number around Drs and nurses as we have lost our professions due to poor recruitment....trainee places over last 10 yrs and mistreatment.
A lot of us experienced clinicians have also taken early retirement. Most of us have had enough of the austerity, staffing capacity issues and stress. Working in the NHS is bad for your health. I should know after 37 years as an RN and health visitor, with an MSc in public health.
Do people realise the NHS is one of the largest employer in the world after the Indian Railways and Chinese PLA. For a country of 60m to have some 2m directly and indirectly employed that's incredible yet it's run to the ground. Given the scale of the monster it's been allowed to grow out of all proportions and more money thrown at it being the solution. We are talking about £165b a year and still rising. The political class has no idea how to deal with the monster😢
An independent report is a con trick? Reform or die seems a fitting way to describe the options available. Throwing more money at a broken system means a bigger broken system. That's not a solution. So it needs reforming. That's means infrastructural change. Not a 5 minute job. Why? Because the Tories have mangled it infrastructurally. In the short term this will inevitably mean more outsourcing to improve delivery such as getting waiting times down. No other way. At the same time as NHS resources are built up again which will take years and decades, and a lot more money before the Private Sector can be weaned out. Serious amounts of money. How Labour handle this is going to be one the biggest deals of their governance.
Funny enough I thought how strange it was that PFI and its draining of funds from the frontline services was completely omitted. Most definitely a con.
The way to fix the NHS is to give the money to the people at the bottom instead of the top and we can do that by making every transfer of cash dependent upon signing off by the service user. You don't pay a plumber or repair man in advance if you want good service so why the hell let the NHS run you through hoops, deliver nothing and still get paid?!
Might be an idea to bring back Convalescent Homes, which enabled what could be referred to as a "soft-release" from hospital, as the patient is still being cared for, but in a less intense manner, before going back home.
Starmer Quote: "Working people can't afford more". Starmer's a comprehensive liar. He is saying "The Rich can't afford more" aka "won't pay their fair share". National Health is BY FAR the most cost effective healthcare, half the cost of US Private healthcare. So Britain CAN'T AFFORD to move to private healthcare for an infinite amount of reasons, including that a shift to Private will destroy British culture, and you have to look at how 1/ Employers, 2/ Insurance Companies and 3/ Healthcare interact, and you find yourself being locked into employers via terminology you'll start to hear more about, the "Pre-existing Condition", which is used to deny you care. The US Private Health system was created for Racism, in the 60s they didn't want to cover the Blacks etc. It was billed as the best care for everyone's money, knowing that Blacks can't afford it, keeping the hospitals full of WHITE patients. In Britain, while it will still be racism based, it'll show up as "the poor" ending up with no care.
Starmer Quote: "It'll take another political term". Starmer's a comprehensive liar. Translation: "We are Labour and out job is to con people to think we are pro-National Health Labour so we can con them and push privatization thru as undetected as possible, as FAST as possible, as quick as our privatization acts on our FIRST DAY IN OFFICE.
Professor of Accountancy Richard J Murphy did a YT forecasting that Labour will mutualise the NHS (it already is, but never mind) by giving every citizen a "share", and then a rapacious US company will come along and buy the shares from us. Well, golly gosh, that's life innit, not our fault
Starmer was a member of the Trilateral Commission, an organisation composed of some of the most prominent financiers, politicians and corporate heads in the world. It is dedicated to the pursuit of neo-liberal economic aims and to the free movement and increase of global capital. They publish policy papers which are not so much suggestions as instructions, with which many governments comply. Among the members of its North American Group is Larry Fink, CEO of BlackRock, one of the largest asset managers in the world with over 10 TRILLION dollars under management. BlackRock is already heavily invested in UK infrastructure, both directly and through intermediaries, including healthcare. In November last year, Fink hailed Starmer's leadership as a "measure of hope" after its period as, "an extremist party with a Marxist leader". Need I say more?
Take the NHS off government and we will rescue this incredible organisation. Health is not a business based on profit. The many buildings gifted for use by NHS have been sold off or closed down. Then the NHS are paying rental for buildings? This cannot be right? Is the private healthcare already complete?
Funny that Wes Streetings mate Alan Milburn who is acting as his advisor on how to fix the NHS is the owner I believe of private medical firms. He is being aloud to sit in on meetings with access to highly sensitive documents regard to the NHS even though they are Government meetings and he has nothing what so ever to do with the Government apart from Wes Steeting appointing him as his so called advisor. Please don’t try to tell me that work from the NHS isn’t being pushed towards his companies after he has been allowed to be part of these meetings. In my opinion this is one of the biggest cons out even bigger than his free clothes.The UA-cam Chanel I watched was The Camilla Tominey Show and was titled Wes Streeting NHS scandal blown wide open on live tv.
It’s time for an insurance based system. Some might be concerned with this idea but not everything has to be based on the American model, there are many other countries for whom this works pretty well. The NHS is finished.
We have that, it's called NI contributions which was supposed to cover our NHS cover and our pensions we have been robbed of. They mug us on a daily basis and we allow it.
Lets stop creating conflict, funding those conflicts while closing hospitals, losing bed spaces.. all while increasing the population. The mathematics don't agree. I was a failure at school, but I CAN see a better way than this orchestrated madness.
Is anyone going to ask Lord Darzi for evidence or an audit trail for the commission of this report? 9 weeks??! Seriously, when did work on this report really start? The outcome of which is pointing to privatisation. Who paid for this report?
PFI - has stragled our NHS, burdened it with debt.
Again - when was this report commissioned? Evidence/audit trail; who paid for it?
put starmer and Tony and Mandy in prison
Every thing Starmer has said or involved in is a con .
@TonyRobertson6
put starmer and Tony and Mandy in prison
Campbell as well.
Along with every Tory health minister from Thatcher's time onwards. I worked in the NHS from 1983 to around 2013 and saw the mess governments made of it, especially the Tories with the major problem with Labour being that they bought into the neoliberal economic model and its lies, inclusive of the disastrous PFI, in terms of healthcare.
As for improving preventive care and care in the community this was supposed to be the big change in the 1990's! I worked in a multi-agency (Health and Social Services) community team in dementia care in the 1990's and with an initiative with a Health and Voluntary Agency community service in the community in the late 2,000's.
Profiteering in regard to health care, the well-documented corruption via the power of big pharma, the intransigence and careerism of some health care professionals and the engineering of the current health and social services shortages so that public money can be diverted into private hands are all what are causing problems in the NHS. We do need to get back to the basic principles of the NHS and, preferably, get rid of private provision.
We do need good community care in public hand with reasonable pay and career structures to promote retention and we do need to so regulate the food industry, in particular, also big pharma as an (ignored) HoC Health Committee report clearly stated (2004 - 2005) and embark on a coherent strategy of health promotion and primary prevention. A laissez faire approach to health in community setting promotes the move of people from healthy citizens to patients requiring the health care the private sector profits from one way or another.
Nicholas Csergo is fundamentally correct but feels too hospital focused. Yep we need to be tough on disease but also tough on the causes of disease which, at root, are fundamental to neoliberal capitalism not least from ultra-processed food, pollution and the psychological and social stressors this economic system causes. This has been well documented from the last decade of the 20th century at least, as has the corrupting influence of big pharma.
The original dream of the NHS was to make the population so healthy that the need for hospital care would diminish. The real reason this dream was not realised was the health-destructive influence of capitalism, especially in its neoliberal iteration. This combined with the need to 'stuff the doctors mouths with gold' as Bevan stated, which gave private provision an in. The BMA has moved left and there is an organisation for socialist doctors but there is still a significant number of doctors who put their status, power and remuneration in the system above most other considerations. I have worked with some brilliant and compassionate and driven doctors but also some who were totally ego and financially focused. Just saying.
All the best to you, great stuff.
All Profits privatised all costs liabilities socialised .
Starmer will help enable the rich to loot the public treasury with no prosecution or legal recourse, then punish the middle class, working class, and poor with austerity, rinse and repeat... The suits, designer glasses frames, and the dresses are necessary costumes for the stage production...
Starmer actually moves his mouth as the US business puppet !
We are all living in a con mans paradise
Well said!
What a bad remark, if the NHS is broken its not beaten . If broke its beat . Repair by removing private services so the NHS can't be broken again . JC 18/9/24 .
Well said David whitehouse in the comments. The most common way to lose your house in USA is medical costs. Write and demand your mp stops privatisation. It’s not good for us or our children! Barb
Starmer 🤮
Streeting 🤮
Con job by a con man.
Thank you for exposing this.
"Delivering profit through the denial of care" is a phrase that should be repeated often and across the scope of this government (as others). Labour under Starmer is just another facilitation agent in a long line of them - since Thatcher, of course. They literally make us sick.
PS Has anyone else here been told by their doctors to take Omeprazole long-term (despite widespread warnings)?
I don’t think our MPs are very productive when they are too busy doing second jobs
Reform or die is a nonsensical statement. If the NHS dies we have no health system. People fail to realise the scale of the NHS system. It is huge and complex and is not replaceable.
Well said
Very true. People need to start appreciating what we have. They need to cancel appointments, as opposed to simply not attending. That is a waste of money. They think it’s free, simply because it’s free at the point of access. The taxpayer is paying for it.
I feel that Starmer’s policies on public expenditure are diametrically opposite to the proletariat’s needs
I am having my cataracts fixed. The optician suggested that I could have them done by my NHS local hospital but there is a 5 months waiting list, or Medicare which I believe is an American company which would carry it out in two months. Private ops can be done inside my local NHS hospital and in Medicare. The Medicare is a small unit of a few rooms and waiting areas which could easily be fitted into a NHS hospital or a small extention. I have spoken to other people in my area who had the same op and were recommended to go to Medicare. I was told the same surgeons are doing the same work on private patients and NHS patients in the local hospital and under
Medicare. I can only conclude that the surgeons are being paid more for NHS patients in Medicare than in the local hospital. It is all a con and allowing American companies to undermine our NHS. The NHS local hospital deals with more difficult eye cases. The surgeon takes 5 minutes per patient to carry out the cataract repair and the patients are being filed in one after the other to have it done. There is a lot of repeated prep and paperwork done by loads of nurses who are floating around all over the place repeating what the orevious nurse did. The Surgeon checks the paperwork and looks at the back of the eye and if he is satisfied you are in the op room and out in 5 minutes. You do feel cared for with all the relaxed smiling nurses fussing over you and so it does feel like they are being efficient but how much is it costing? I am sure a lot more than if the Op was performed using exactly the same team of Surgeons and nurses in the NHS hospital. And what is the extra cost to pay for the shareholders and the pharmaceutical company who supply the drugs - one person came up to me and said be sure to use both bottles of the eye drops as the second eye drop will sting and she continued the NHS hospital only give the second eye drop. It is nice the first eye drop stops the second eye drop from stinging but is it adding far too much to the cost - this is only one small item but I think if anything it is the pharmaceutical supplies to our NHS hospitals and our GP surgeries that need investigated - I am sure we would be able to replace far more nurses, doctors and beds if we did not have to pay so much for the thieving American pharmaceutical companies.
Well said!! 👏👏👏 all the best with your eye op
@@SheilaDerrick-i5d Medicare NHS. faculties is just adding to the NHS problem, has,they are given financial advantage, make the waiting times for poor patients longer, effectively queue jumping, if they had thier own hospitals then they would reducing waiting times, They're are making waiting times longer crating bigger market for themselves, as more frustrated people use it more business they generate for themselves, parasites living of the NHS, two more points if the NHS did not exist they would not be so many local hospitals and each on wold be in competition with each other you would then travel far and wide done treatments wold disappear as not, as profitable and with out the NHS the fees would try the roof. One more thing the government keeps wage cost low as it's paying they are paying them, as the right wing ring media complains, privitised it would be no one business and wages could sky rocket and also increase costs so that again
Well: that is precisely what Starmer and his puppetmasters always wanted, isn't it? (So of course it's a con.) 😏😏
He forgot to mention Private Finance Initiatives
and, MP,S-remain SILENT-WHERE ARE THE DEMONSTARTIONS?
Spot on
We are demonstrating in London for Gaza. We’ve been marching for the NHS for ten years, but everyone said they’ll never sell our NHS…well they have! Write to your MPs..in your thousands and your millions we all have a right to healthcare FREE because we’ve paid our taxes! Barb
@@annenunney9907 apart from the spelling of demonstrations, that is.
@@mikeharvey9811 and our national insurance well said
@@robertdavidson8028 my comment was Spot on nothing to do with anything else
Who is going to stop the drive to total privatisation? Politicians continue to complain about the amount of money that is spent on the NHS, even though it is questionable who actually gets it, but how are they going to spin a health system that is completely evident in America, because that is what the UK is heading towards. The amount of Americans that cannot even afford health care is what British greedy politicians are expecting us to simply accept, as well as limited care dependant on what money you can manage to give them. It is a fact that so many families in this country struggle to survive each month and many are in financial trouble even when both parents are in work. All this is totally ignored by Tories and Labour alike, with minimal objections from other parties. Our political system and it's accomplice media are steering the population to absolute ruin and non affordable health provision. Who will stop all this, as it seems that we will wake up one day to find we are in abject debt to an evil cadre of wealthy dominators, that can claim everything but will be at risk to a very angry population finally reacting too late.
I don’t think we can stop it
@@emmagibson3837 Hopefully we can try. All the best.
the NHS was the best ran healthcare system throughout the 60s and 70s it was cost effective and low waiting times! privatisation is the problem and it's always not the answer.
The answer is to spend our taxes on public services, not creating a conflict then using that income on defence or clandestine operations abroad. This will stop future terrorism in its tracks too and make friends not enemies.
Correct, its privatisation that kills the NHS . JC/18/9/24 .
@@djonfonsteen6331 Correct . Spend taxes on public services . Dont give money from taxes to private companies, when the private company can get their money from the private customer . JC 18/9/24 .
@@sirgaymeerkat1994 Through the fifties to I completely agree with you
@@djonfonsteen6331 well said
when I started in 1989 in NHS-the nhs was workiNG well. So, Darzi is never going to mention the PRIVATE/PUBLIC FINANCE DESTRUCTION TOOL????
Its no good for the NHS, when public money is given to private companies . In other words your tax and VAT contribution becomes a private companies direct profit, on top of the profit the company can get from a customer . JC/9/24 .
The building of new houses in 2024 with Barrets the builder, Lloyds bank, and Angela Rayner labour government is a three way Private/ Public funded house project . The 25% profit made by Angela Rayner will not be returned to the public purse, but given to Barrett builders and Lloyds bank . The public purse is kept empty, even onto becoming bankrupt . No wonder, why people feel the pinch of loss every day . Capital companies and organisations rule UK persons lives . The third owned UK American businesses rule UK peoples lives . JC 18/9/24 .
@@JosephClayton-bb6vp Asset stripping the country.
Assets are taken out of the NHS by private companies and reloaned as a service back to the NHS with a mark up of 25% . JC 19/9/24 .
It’s sold,
Why do we have to go to the shop of the private NHS ? Two knee replacements cost £32,000 . Thats the cost of a new car . JC 10/10/24 .
Resurrecting Thatcher's "care in the community" slogan should strike fear into anyone who stops to ponder what "care in the community" has meant for people with mental health issues. It has basically meant people are in the community and left to their own devices, with burden of care put onto the neighbours at zero cost to the State.
Yep, and when people were moved into community setting we had no extra budget or staff and were expected to provide the same level of care as in the hospital when it was a minute between patients no twenty via car in the community! The decanting of frail elderly people with dementia was a death sentence with over 70% being dead with eighteen months. On the up side, as one of the managers said in disgust, it meant that money was relased back into the NHS from the private nursing homes!
Thatcher's economic policies, inclusive of her approach to the NHS, was predicted to increase excess deaths ('The Black Report' and 'The Health Divide') and did so to the tune of an estimated 6'000 PA from 1983 to 1997. Labour same set on a similar path, I hope that I am wrong but suspect not.
All the best.
@@michaelel650 If you recall how Labour increased the privatisation of medical services (the Conservatives had mainly focused on privatising ancillary services if I recall correctly) during their last tenure in Number 10, whilst continuing to reduce capacity, I think we both know your suspicions as to what is to come is correct. It is shameful what both Labour and Conservatives have done to the NHS since the first budget cuts in the mid-1970's. In the London Borough of Greenwich where I live, there used to be seven hospitals. Now we are left with just one, which has never been fit-for-purpose, for a much larger and ageing population in the borough. Greenwich District Hospital, where I was a Pupil Nurse in the mid-1980's, was shut in 2003 by Labour, despite the Labour MP having campaigned to keep it open, saying we needed two hospitals due to the proposed population increase with the planned Peninsula developments, until Labour got elected in 1997, when he did a volte-face and supported its closure.
@@michaelel650I remember the Black Report. It was an extremely damming report, yet there was hardly any publicity about its findings. Sadly it was all correct regarding the north/south divide.
@@jaijai5250 I remember it well, I read it published together with 'The Health Divis' in the book 'Inequalities in Health' published in 1983. TBH I was shocked at how few Health Care Professionals were aware of these landmark reports a few years later. Hardly anyone does any more than pay lip service to the social causes of poor health in their practice. A more recent book is 'The Spirit Level' by Wilkinson and Pickett although both Marmot and Layard have covered the same ground. Added to this the venal corruption of both the food and pharmaceutical industries and even of academia and the regulatory bodies supposed to safeguard the public we are living in a perfect storm that the mainstream media either ignores or downplays whilst exaggerating any hew 'medical development'. It seems to me that a large proportion of the health professionals put themselves, their self-interest and maybe their profession well before the wellbeing of patients, much less the general public.
During the Thatcher years, after the NHS 'purchaser - provider' split the largest number of enquiries to the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists was from managers asking how they might make a profit! As it was I think that only one service tried to go wholly private but lasted no more than a year. I think that it was the Rowntree Foundation that did a study where they estimated that the socioeconomic changes introduced by Thatcher, essential to the neoliberal economic ideology, resulted in 6,000 extra deaths per year from 1983 to 1997. Noting that she actively tried to bury the Black Report by publishing it in 250 photocopied copies at a weekend when some big event was on! Her socioeconomic choices resulted in more deaths of British citizens than any terrorists acting in the UK. I know kill a family and it is a horrendous tragedy, kill thousands and it is just a statistic!
I once met Peter Townsend, one of the guiding lights of 'The Black Report' and asked if as well as an income floor below which no citizen should fall shouldn't there also be a ceiling. His answer was that he would prefer something closer to equality where income was related to the social good resulting from any job. Just saying.
All the very best to you.
He means more privatisation and it doesnt work. He admires the US system, which is the worst healthcare system in the first world, with the worst outcomes.
His speech is all theatre.
He is dressed in surgeons clothes and in an empty ward to deliver his speech.
He did a small surgical procedure for me at St Mary’s through my work’s private health insurance and he came across as arrogant and with little bedside manners!
Best not to need NhS, take care of yourself, eat well.
MAYBE, YOU CAN ASK BOB TO DO A SERIES TO TEH PUBLIC ON HOW TO NATIONALISE THE NHS?
Well said
This scares me , not for me but for my grandchildren ! My friend in the US died last year from breast cancer . All she obsessed about after having her two sons was working enough to get full health coverage Insurance , all she spoke about during her failed cancer treatment was what her health insurance did or did not cover , She died with that anxiety in her life . That’s what Starmer is offering citizens in the UK selling off the NHS.
lord hatchet man darzi
Its not fair that the NHS contract private services who only operate for profit . All the money that goes into private services is not all used on the patient . 25% is profit that goes to the private directors . For every £400 going to private, the director gets £100 . For every £20,000 paid into private care for patient care£500 goes to the director to spend on overseas holidays, purchase of Italian gold and investments into the one third American companies that own businesses in the UK . All the private profit goes out of the country . On the other hand, if money is collected from VAT and income tax, the 20% profit made by private companies is used for patient care out of one pot of money . In other words, don't privatise the NHS . Give private companies push bikes to manufacture for profit, or solar cell panels or wooden handles for hand tools to make . Not to make NHS profit . JC 18/9/24 .
HERE IS THE HEAD OF THE TRAITOR !!!
REFORM /RESET.
Exactly what Health Secretary de facto Alan Millburn wanted.
Am a great fan of this programme which needs a much higher profile. Your episode with Sarah Wilkinson was fantastic. All strength to you!
That bloody Talk TV are so rude if they had listen to Bob they may have learnt something
Them and GB news are the worst. Some people actually believe their news programme.
"People", says Stamer, "can't pay more"; very wealthy companies and individuals can (and should) pay more.
Darzi also omits to mention that Consultants of all sorts use NHS facilities and staff to do private work.
Which he does!
Of course "choice " is popular. Who is going to say that "choice" is a bad thing? But how do we choose? I suspect in most cases it would be a case of the physician being able to recommend HIS choice with a pitch of something like "You can wait 6 months to have your procedure in a tatty old NHS hospital with paint peeling off the walls or you can go to this shiny new private clinic (which I happen to own shares in) tomorrow."
They are going to privatise it. This has been planned for along time. Same as the dentists
This guy nailed what I have been saying! You ever tried mentioning to a gp (if you can get to see one) about 'problems' with the 'healthcare' system? Their reaction - or lack of says it all!!
They are deskilling the workforce and finding ways of removing hard working staff.
That psyche hacking clap at the beginning of Darzi's video, unbelievable. There are no words that can express my visceral anger towards these charlatans.
Not a response to a crisis, but the continuation of longstanding Labour Right privatization plans
You guys are great
Very enlightening, thank you.
This NHS guy is waffling
How so? He is talking truth and many patients have witnessed this
Preparing the NHS for more PFI.
usual playbook, create a crisis then when everyone is scared and confused offer privatization as a way out. He does not deserve mercy.
gp's are all in on it!
Thank you for the truth.
''Care in the community'' - where have I heard that one before? Oh yes, I remember, when Thatcher thought it was better to kick a whole bunch of people with serious mental health problems out of hospitals on to the streets to fend for themselves.
NHS drs are moonlighting in private work because they're fed up and seeing how they can earn more. Leadership has been affected and we DO have a deficit of number around Drs and nurses as we have lost our professions due to poor recruitment....trainee places over last 10 yrs and mistreatment.
A lot of us experienced clinicians have also taken early retirement. Most of us have had enough of the austerity, staffing capacity issues and stress. Working in the NHS is bad for your health. I should know after 37 years as an RN and health visitor, with an MSc in public health.
This "Labour" in name only party.
Will not get another term.
It may not get through this term.👎
And have who instead
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Putin would be much better for us.😄
Red tories took over the blue tories!! We need the choices like Lib dems, green party etc
Yes and I choose No Private Provider, it's written in my notes.
Do people realise the NHS is one of the largest employer in the world after the Indian Railways and Chinese PLA. For a country of 60m to have some 2m directly and indirectly employed that's incredible yet it's run to the ground. Given the scale of the monster it's been allowed to grow out of all proportions and more money thrown at it being the solution. We are talking about £165b a year and still rising. The political class has no idea how to deal with the monster😢
The Starzy report.
An independent report is a con trick?
Reform or die seems a fitting way to describe the options available. Throwing more money at a broken system means a bigger broken system. That's not a solution. So it needs reforming. That's means infrastructural change. Not a 5 minute job.
Why? Because the Tories have mangled it infrastructurally.
In the short term this will inevitably mean more outsourcing to improve delivery such as getting waiting times down. No other way. At the same time as NHS resources are built up again which will take years and decades, and a lot more money before the Private Sector can be weaned out. Serious amounts of money. How Labour handle this is going to be one the biggest deals of their governance.
Sounds like one he made earlier - true Blue Peter Style.
Funny enough I thought how strange it was that PFI and its draining of funds from the frontline services was completely omitted. Most definitely a con.
The way to fix the NHS is to give the money to the people at the bottom instead of the top and we can do that by making every transfer of cash dependent upon signing off by the service user. You don't pay a plumber or repair man in advance if you want good service so why the hell let the NHS run you through hoops, deliver nothing and still get paid?!
Might be an idea to bring back Convalescent Homes, which enabled what could be referred to as a "soft-release" from hospital, as the patient is still being cared for, but in a less intense manner, before going back home.
Starmer Quote: "Working people can't afford more". Starmer's a comprehensive liar. He is saying "The Rich can't afford more" aka "won't pay their fair share".
National Health is BY FAR the most cost effective healthcare, half the cost of US Private healthcare. So Britain CAN'T AFFORD to move to private healthcare for an infinite amount of reasons, including that a shift to Private will destroy British culture, and you have to look at how 1/ Employers, 2/ Insurance Companies and 3/ Healthcare interact, and you find yourself being locked into employers via terminology you'll start to hear more about, the "Pre-existing Condition", which is used to deny you care.
The US Private Health system was created for Racism, in the 60s they didn't want to cover the Blacks etc. It was billed as the best care for everyone's money, knowing that Blacks can't afford it, keeping the hospitals full of WHITE patients.
In Britain, while it will still be racism based, it'll show up as "the poor" ending up with no care.
Starmer Quote: "It'll take another political term". Starmer's a comprehensive liar. Translation: "We are Labour and out job is to con people to think we are pro-National Health Labour so we can con them and push privatization thru as undetected as possible, as FAST as possible, as quick as our privatization acts on our FIRST DAY IN OFFICE.
Basically, we are all paying for private health care executives to buy big houses and drive very expensive cars.
He won’t turn his high wages down, also how much he will earn doing private work
Professor of Accountancy Richard J Murphy did a YT forecasting that Labour will mutualise the NHS (it already is, but never mind) by giving every citizen a "share", and then a rapacious US company will come along and buy the shares from us. Well, golly gosh, that's life innit, not our fault
Ive noticed there are more and more care jobs popping up and integrated care jobs under labour.
It is NOT competition it is use and abuse..If they are private then they should be private...
IT cannot wipe peoples bottoms.
before it was severed but not cut
Straw man arguments from the terrifying far right half wit Generalissimo Starmer
Thank
Has starmer listen to himself.what a joke. Vote Reform.
Starmer was a member of the Trilateral Commission, an organisation composed of some of the most prominent financiers, politicians and corporate heads in the world. It is dedicated to the pursuit of neo-liberal economic aims and to the free movement and increase of global capital. They publish policy papers which are not so much suggestions as instructions, with which many governments comply. Among the members of its North American Group is Larry Fink, CEO of BlackRock, one of the largest asset managers in the world with over 10 TRILLION dollars under management. BlackRock is already heavily invested in UK infrastructure, both directly and through intermediaries, including healthcare. In November last year, Fink hailed Starmer's leadership as a "measure of hope" after its period as, "an extremist party with a Marxist leader". Need I say more?
Wow, Starmer biggest sellout in British history. There goes the NHS.
Take the NHS off government and we will rescue this incredible organisation. Health is not a business based on profit. The many buildings gifted for use by NHS have been sold off or closed down. Then the NHS are paying rental for buildings? This cannot be right? Is the private healthcare already complete?
Reform is code for privatisation simple as spelling neoliberalism
'Community care'
Hence the importation of infinity Africans.
Krispers old man, in case it's intentional, your head, in front of your background logo, makes it look like
F---OFF 😂 👍
Maybe with all this 'AI' they could have 'pop up doc bots'!!!
Funny that Wes Streetings mate Alan Milburn who is acting as his advisor on how to fix the NHS is the owner I believe of private medical firms. He is being aloud to sit in on meetings with access to highly sensitive documents regard to the NHS even though they are Government meetings and he has nothing what so ever to do with the Government apart from Wes Steeting appointing him as his so called advisor. Please don’t try to tell me that work from the NHS isn’t being pushed towards his companies after he has been allowed to be part of these meetings. In my opinion this is one of the biggest cons out even bigger than his free clothes.The UA-cam Chanel I watched was The Camilla Tominey Show and was titled Wes Streeting NHS scandal blown wide open on live tv.
AI is all about wef. What would dr bob gill say about reform uk looking after the nhs because I have feeling they are going to be the next government
of course its a con ..its from a labour supporter
Who is the man posing as a worker in the NHS ? Please find out who he is and what accent he is speaking in !
Keep that camera still!! I get travel sick watching this poor presentation.
When you increase tge polulation by millions per year the NHS, housing and schools are bound to have problems.
It’s time for an insurance based system. Some might be concerned with this idea but not everything has to be based on the American model, there are many other countries for whom this works pretty well. The NHS is finished.
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No it is not, jog on traitor.
There is not a single insurance based system that is not either more expensive or less effective or both.
We have that, it's called NI contributions which was supposed to cover our NHS cover and our pensions we have been robbed of. They mug us on a daily basis and we allow it.
Lets stop creating conflict, funding those conflicts while closing hospitals, losing bed spaces.. all while increasing the population. The mathematics don't agree. I was a failure at school, but I CAN see a better way than this orchestrated madness.