The Reason Raft Failed
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- A bit of a deep-dive into Raft (get it)
Bit of a different video than usual, I hope you guys like it!
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I'd love more content like this :)
That's okay with us! your style of analyzing games and mods is the best. In the future you should do a minecraft video.
Curently Raft is a masterpiece from axolotl games but Scrap Mechanics didn't got that lucky treatment
I loved it have 200 hours and its great fun though played it mostly in 2018-19
1:30, NO, do let them.
I'm honestly surprised raft doesn't have workshop support to begin with, felt like it would've been something perfect for a sandbox game like this
What would you upload tho
@@patrlim Sex?
@@patrlimRafts, tool mods, new items, animals, biomes. You name it.
mods lol@@patrlim
yes it really needs workshop support. there are so many thngs that i would love to have in the game but will never be added
I honestly think Raft did great as a project. I feel like a lot of these suggestions would be better off suited for a sequel built from the ground up, such as making random island generations a must.
Yeah, him saying it failed is just completely false. For this size game, it has been incredibly successful. Not liking some aspects of the game has nothing to do with whether or not the game was a success or failure.
The random island generation could be dangerous because it could make islands impossible to get the treasure out of and have them be very long and annoying to get around.
@@connerelliott6040 I'd imagine the safer route with random island to make sure each island has a predictable base, but then has added pieces that are random but are configured in a way that wouldn't interfere with each other.
@@connerelliott6040 There are algorithms that avoid these issues, like wave function collapse.
As soon as I reached the game's ending, it immediately hit me that it was one of the most disappointing endings to anything that I have ever experienced. I had enjoyed myself so much before that ending...
I also had no idea the new update retroactively added people to the previously added locations. That really sucks, I always thought the extended period of not finding anyone alive before the final chapter made it all the more exciting when you actually did find people. Especially since I'm pretty sure the first person I found after the final update was literally found in cryostasis, really hammering in the point that people were not easy to find.
hey, could be worse, it could end like stranded deep. which has THE WORST ending in gaming...
@@marcosdheleno Never finished standed deep. I was fully onboard with the game until I was lost on what to do ad then found out that suddenly the game shifts from just trying to escape to having to go fight sea bosses to magically get the scametics for the plane parts. I knew the bosses were in the game I just had thought they were optional at first not a mandatory part of the story.
@@otterino1419 the worst part is, like i said the ending. its one of the worst endings i have ever seen in a game
it completely kills any motivation to continue playing the game again.
@@marcosdheleno Yea while I havn't reached the ending I have seen it n it basically killed any slim interest I had in fighting bosses in a game that felt like a pretty good survival game up untill that point
@@marcosdheleno What is the ending, and why is it so bad?
Procedurally generated minor islands would add SO much content to the game.
doubt
I don't think this would work in this game unfortunately
unity would explode@@Tas_Ydrokolios
@@Lou-yf1jo Unity can handle procedural generation just fine.
No.@@daedalus6433
i hate that they added actual people. One of my favorite parts of the game was the loneliness
I kind of agree. I think the people at the final story location are fine, but I personally would‘ve removed every NPC seen before (the playable characters you unlock). Those could‘ve been replaced by like an image or something instead that you pick up, would’ve made a lot more sense as well
i agree with this times a thousand
minecraft moment
@@1lucia I remember watching Markiplier's series on. When they restarted the story like a year later, it was such whiplash finding those NPCs, since the emptiness of the locations seemed to be intentional for the vibe.
@@1lucia The only person I truly hate is Olof. Seriously, screw this guy. I do like that there are people, but they should have only been at the end. It seems fun learning about these characters by seeing their ghosts in the form of notes and the other things they left behind. Learn about Olof, follow the trail, and even have branching endings depending on if you get to the locked utopia residents in time or not.
thank you for the spoiler warning. i haven't finished the game yet, so i'll save this video to my "watch later" playlist and watch it when i ultimately finish.
Took an extended hiatus from it after a bit of disappointment i had after reaching the radio tower and encountering Tala. from what she was saying, it sounded like she was going to join me on my raft, which i thought was great! i was getting a bit lonely on there. But then, rather then going to my raft, she just unlocked as a playable character.
Been asking for a "Decorative NPC's" mod ever since, where the playable character models can be crafted and placed around the raft in idle stances and sits and such, unlocking with each character you unlock. That way i could put Tala in a chair next to the Receiver to make it look like she's monitoring the airwaves for me or something, when really she's just another prop. Then i could do something similar with Maya and all the other characters i unlock along the way, make a whole crew out of it.
Sadly, no bites yet, and i don't know how to make a mod myself...
love how Olof is just sitting in prison with sticks of TNT strapped to him still
I did my first play through when Chapter 1 came out, then came back years later for the full game. While I was very happy with the new islands and items, the thing that immediately disappointed me was the NPCs and trading. I remember the initial feeling of loneliness in the early version game, where it felt like you *just* missed the other people on each island. I was really hoping it would end with you finally finding people at the final location. Seeing an NPC at the first location totally took that feeling away. Instead of a huge empty ocean where you're struggling to find other people, you now just meet random people and they disappear. Doesn't make sense lore wise or gameplay wise.
Hear me out: The player character is going insane. This probably isn’t what the devs intended, but you can make the disappearing playable characters make sense by just saying your character is losing it from loneliness and making imaginary friends that "join them on the raft".
its actually a little wild they created Utopia, a huge city that the "Ending" sets up as basically the cradle of the new ocean-based Civilization, and decided to just stop the game there. I mean, that literally could have been the start of part 2 of the game where you "Rebuild" Utopia, giving you reasons to seek out new supplies and build up the city through a series of quests or collections, watching it grow over time and expand.
Would at least give the game an endgame, and Titanium weapons a real use.
The Characters also feel super incomplete, which is a shame. Each one seems like it was designed to do a specific task or have some special traits and they were just left unfinished. I mean if they were worried about how NPCs would work on a Raft, could just give it Terraria rules where you have to build a "house" or room for each NPC to live in on your raft, so they always had a default location to go too, which I know isn't as easy as it sounds but I think it might have been a good starting point to making NPCs work on such a malleable concept as the Raft.
Overall it felt like the game had just opened up with "The Final Chapter" and was abandoned. So many possible ideas just seemingly left to die. A real shame. As you said, it felt like Chapter 3 set the foundation for such a huge game ahead of itself, and nada.
49:26 I think it would be really cool if some story characters asked you to go retrieve things from previous story islands that they may have left there, like maybe detto left some important experiment notes in caravan town for his rocket that he needs you to get, which would give players a reason to revisit previous story locations and also let them know if they weren’t already aware that loot respawns on story islands. Maybe also add some small things to earlier story locations that only become accessible if you revisit them after unlocking something, like a zip line at the radio tower or things that require titanium tools or something. I think some reasons to revisit previous story locations could add a lot of reason to continue playing past the end of the game
loot respawns on story islands??
@@eva1585 yes!! If you go far enough and return, non-boss animals and most loot respawns
@@semisemicoloncolon : O
If feel like the build up to the games full release was one of the best parts of it
I think Raft achieved what it set out to do. It was never meant to be some sort of large scale survival game. I would have liked it to be more than it is, but I'm not unhappy with what I got. I just enjoy the relaxing gameplay loop, adding too many survival elements would interfere with this.
I guess my primary complaint is that you get all the cool stuff at the very end, when it's useless. I would've liked these titanium tools earlier on in the game.
my best memory in this game was stealing all of our groups wood to make a tower reaching into the sky and creating a sanctuary for seagulls up there, which then proceded to decimate our crops and plunge us into an era of famine. When they came to destroy the tower, it collapsing split our raft in 2.
Nice. I have Raft and I always play with my older cousin. We just finished the story mode and are focusing to completely upgrade our raft. (We need a lot of titanium) I really recommend this game as it brings a lot of fun and laughter! Also, I dont care if its not popular. It will always be my favourite game.
after you mentioned Tala (the first NPC) i wondered why tf they even included this "feature". If they're just going to be playable characters, why not have it be a journal entry or personal item or something?
but it does make sense if they were meant to do more and just got half-cut during development.
Act 3 was just weird, and having the platforming was strange given that it wasn't part of the game until the Balboa poison area. My wife loves the early game, and tends to play until Balboa Island, then starts over.
Crazy seeing how far Raft came, I never played past the Alpha in 2016 and had no clue it popped off like this!
I remember being super invested in the game up until Varuna Point, in which the game basically became "I'm finishing this because I want to finally finish raft". Don't get me wrong, it was still fun but it did not feel as exciting as it did before that. I had 6 engines, a net system that collected every single piece of flotsam and a nearly fully-reinforced raft which completely prevented the shark from attacking me, so as you said it was just a rush to finish the game. Temperance was a surprise and an EXCELLENT island which did keep me hopeful but Utopia felt a little bit lackluster. I wish the game was expanded upon a tiny bit before Utopia because even just 1-3 more story islands could've made this game so much better, and also given more time to use all the different mechanics. I don't think I tamed a single animal or used cooking/the juicer at all because there was no need, and I finished the game not long after trying them out! Slowly increasing the difficulty as you progress could also help alot with this not feeling like a survival game, as once you progress a couple hours it becomes way too easy.
Great analysis, didn't feel like 55 minutes!! Although that does mean I have just stayed up pretty late because I was really invested in this video lol. Nice work!
I wouldve loved to survive massive storms on a raft that we have to keep repaired and built well enough to survive nature
"Raft: the final chapter"
"Terraria 1.4: Journey's *end*"
"Here is a big 30 kilo stone coming down on my head out of the sky.. I better stand directly under it and not move so I make sure it does the job efficiently."
Raft felt like they were maybe building up to something then they just said screw it and finished the game in... i dont wanna fall it half assed but compared to how things were feeling prior it feels half assed. Just like it was trying to quickly get you through the story for an ending that just says "good job you did it".
And the final island just feeling stupid. Guy just decides he wants to be leader and comically locks everyone togehter in one building and makes an obatacle course for some reason?
It feels a lot better when youre just alone and finding notes trying to piece together a story on what happened. The story they gave us is just boring, and a bit silly when things felt at least a little grounded before.
I loved every step of the development, i enjoyed playing it with friends and I'm sad to see it probably never getting a sequel or update. I always remember the funny moments while playing the game. I miss the times where i would wait for the next chapter, if only it went on for a bit longer
Other than the story getting screwed because of the Chapter 3 that added a story Re-Write, one thing that annoyed me is the lack of update news, both on Steam and Discord.
What I mean is not demanding an update to be released every now and then, but atleast have some news that tell people what they're doing. These can be weekly, monthly or bi-monthly posts. Chapter 1 to Chapter 2 took 2 and half years, with patches in-between, but any news about Chapter 2? Not many. We got around 3 or 4 posts about the Chapter update progress, which would basically equivalence to one post every 6-8 months.
I remember one person talking in the Discord, being annoyed that people called the game dead. Thats what happens if you release sporadic patch updates and no news about the new chapter.
Chapter 2 to 3 got even worse, which also had around nore than 2 years of development, but even less posts about the progress, around two or three. Which would equivalence to 1 post per year.
While people knew the game wasn't abandoned, saying "Nah, we're still working on it bro" isn't going to work these days. My guess why they rushed Chapter 3? Ptobably a mix of issues. Budget and people breathing down their neck, which the second one could have easily been avoided, if the team managed their community properly and not just ignore them and remember that they exist once a year.
I heard from a comment that after Chapter 3's release, the Developers went on to state in a Discord call that originally 5 chapters were planned. (Of course, this is about as alleged as it gets really). It does seem like they got rushed by their publisher or something to just finish the game up to work on something else. Honestly a HUGE shame. I wish they would've just done it using a paid format, similar to how Payday 2 did it. I know of course that Payday 2 does get hate for its DLC format, but I actually think it's one of the more fair ones out there, and especially with how it told a story.
All the Payday 2 Heist DLC's would tell a bit more about the general story, and they were rather cheap for what they offered in most cases. Raft could've done this as well. Release a chapter worth of maps in a ~5-10$ DLC, add a bit to the story each time, and then similar to how Payday 2 did it, end the whole thing by doing a free update that concludes the story (Utopia in the case of Raft).
It could've become a pillar in the gaming community, with everyone hyped each time an update is announced. While I respect them sticking to their word of "No DLC", at some point you might be better off changing your mind, as that is the only way I could see them realistically become said pillar in the gaming community. Time obviously can't be reverted, but I still often think about the failures of Raft.
@@1lucia While I can see what you mean, DLC for a Raft Chapter would be too little for what you'd pay. I can see that more similar to what Legend of Zelda did, a single payment with the first dlc update, and second one coming afterwards, and comes with the price you paid for the first DLC.
The reason I'm saying this is because of the content you get each Chapter. It's not much. Each Chapter released didn't add much and only becomes DLC-Worthy if you combine both together. Then you have enough content to actually sell it as a DLC. Same would be for Chapter 4 and 5. You would pay once a get both Chapters, instead of paying twice, one for each chapter. You could sell one chapter for a price but that would mean having to add so much content, it might as well be two chapters in one.
Admittedly the title scared me a little lol, but I agree with 99% of what you said in this video and really appreciate how much time you've dedicated to this game despite its many (*many*) shortcomings. I love Raft and always will, and I suppose there's something to say about how much excitement there really is early game and to see the story unfold even though it never reached its full potential--and, sadly, likely never will. If nothing else, it serves as a great example of a game that lost its passion. This video showcases that really well; thank you for making it!!
When I played the beta, years back, I thought this game was about living off of the massive garbage pile in the Pacific.
For those who don't know, I believe since the 1970s or so, a continent size floating garbage pile circles about in the middle of the Pacific. This pile reaches several feet deep, and is stable enough to support exploration on top of it. Unique species continue to emerge as the ocean tries to deal with this massive new mass. There are teams which work around the clock to deal with this mess, but there is not a clear solution to it.
I once complained about The apparent Lack of a fullscreen Option in the Game itself in the game's discord, only to be Met by passive-aggressive Responses about Windows keybinds that supposedly everyone knew about, and how supposedly Most Games didn't have this Feature either.
I must say the Raft Discord seems pretty shit. Lots of unfriendly members there sadly. Everytime I have asked something in there it was met by passive aggresiveness as well. Also you can't have a number as the first letter of your name in their discord for some reason, which is incredibly weird.
@@1luciathis Kind of culture makes me think that the reason raft didn't achieve all it's Potential is because the core Community is hostile to criticism, leaving the devs with an echochamber that tells Them everything is great and there's No flaws
@@enderkatze6129 Could be actually. Everytime I have visited the Raft discord there was absolutely no discussion about all the weak points of Raft. It was actually never even relevant to Raft at all for that matter. Each time someone asked a question about Raft someone would just respond with some bot command, as they have seemingly got a bot to answer every single question people ask about Raft, which is easy I guess but also leads to the people asking feeling real bad I think. Like "yeah let me give you this automated answer you dumbass 1000 people have already asked this" lol
@@1lucia it's the exact Same Problem that 7dtd seems have been suffering For a goddamn decade now. Difference is that it's probably never gonna reach 1.0 at this rate.
Haven't watched all of the video yet but to be honest raft is one of the games for me that i wish i could wipe my memory about and play again, because the amount of excitement when me and my sister awaited another new lore island was unmatched for me. Also I'm happy we started playing before Raft was a finished games because I don't love the npc's they shoved into some oryginal locations. Personally I loved the eerie feeling of being completely alone, I wished to see some npc's at some point and it fitted nicely, because for me it was at the only two remaining lore locations that I got to see them at my first playthrough. I liked to wonder what's the complete story, like where are those people now and all, but in the end it wasn't nearly as satisfying as I hoped.
To be honest we‘re in the exact same boat (or rather raft) here. I think you‘ll agree with the video overall
Yeah I finished it and I think I agree with everything. Great video
45:20 that could be a problem with the publisher, Axolot games, cause they too really have a problem with communication
WRITING THIS BEFORE WATCHING THE VIDEO:
As a Raft veteran, I feel that the addition of survivors and the massive story change made it feel so much less... hopeless, and less fun to explore. The game felt more linear, like you were being pushed in a specific path to do specific things. The change of islands to be massive puzzles didn't help either, and took away massively from the survival aspect of the game. Sure, adding the weird markets onto large islands always felt out of place, especially when you consider how well Tangaroa handled currency.
Utopia was the biggest letdown in the game for me, because I lost that sense of power and control over the seas. because there was someone else there too.
You can protect your crops by putting them inside a room and they are quite easy to stack, making the food issue just trivial
the rule is 2 roof pcs over a crop 2 protect 1/2 post x 2 then 2 floor pcs one above the other will work. I like to farm seagulls. Why not.
I can never wipe off that feeling.
Been playing raft for a while now, and the file we played on was a raft that was played by ~7ish people. To say the least, we left were on an absolute high when the dome was the last place we could visit.
Once the final update came out though, the journey felt rushed. Real rushed. And once the ending was beaten, I was genuinely asking ‘what’s next?’. There *was* nothing left. It all came to an end like that. Way too rushed, some annoying bugs, and an ending that hits you like a wall after rushing through the story too fast. Still one of the greatest games I’ve played tho
Amazing video, the narrative is very well done and it feels like you really poured your soul into it! I'm really surprised the video only has 60k views, I was expecting at least a million (especially considering how popular Raft was).
I remember a bunch of youtubers like Markiplier, 8bitryan, etc played this game back in the old days. Most youtubers who played this game years ago were smaller youtubers who now grew so much bigger. Good memories this video brought back, thank you!
After watching Markiplier and his friends playing this game, I was hoping to see more of the story and the game itself. Lo and behold, I stumbled upon this video, with a whole run down of story stuff that Markiplier never touched at all! Thank you for this!! I have to subscribe now! Also, your accent is awesome!
Your score system is pure torture. I will never accept half points in a five point system. Use a 10 point system and divide by 3, man.
Great video, knew absolutely nothing about this game and am now tempted to buy it, haha. Thank you for adding the captions too, as someone who has trouble processing audio they were very helpful :)
I always though tangaroa and utopia should have been switched. I thoroughly enjoyed the floating city more than any other island and wished it was the end instead of what we got. But yeah I agree with the video, I've put 80hrs into Raft and I've loved my time in it but after finishing your raft and story there just isn't any reason to continue. It's a shame really because I'll sometimes boot up the game just to float around and listen to the chill music but I don't find myself wanting to "do" anything because well...I have everything.
I only got as far as the bear islands. I like raft but I felt like the endless cycle of gathering resources at identical islands was too boring for me to continue. I really did enjoy it at first but it took me and my friends a long time to figure out how to even build anything and by the time we did have a raft that could travel against the wind I already looted hundreds of metals and thousands of wood plastic and leafs. and probably killed 50 sharks. It was fun but the same shark over and over was just not the kind of stimulating gameplay that I want out of a game. It was sooo relaxing to fish in this game while waiting for the sail to take us to an island.
also I gotta add the ending confused me so much. the whole game I was wondering who is this my character, why is he on a raft and how did he get here. but then the story just explains that olaf is a bad man who is evil and we stopped him. but that was an answer to a question I never had. It barely makes an effort to explain it's own world then when it declares that everyone is a forward scout I wondered to myself "what the hell is a forward scout? how did I get into the middle of the ocean on a plank of wood? I wasn't born on that thing." also the story's tone is stupid. 7 billion humans including children drowned in the waters and this game wants to play with an army of rats. There's glaring questions of where is everyone? surely people didn't just wait to die, they should have made rafts or moved to high ground but there's only caravan town. every single island in the game should look like caravan town. even if you packed two thousand skeletons on each island you'd still have Billions of missing people. The game just doesn't really make any sense once you start seriously pursuing the story.
0:20 _"From CLIMATE CHANGE to evil corporations, the game features everything a good story needs"._
K bye. lol
Besides the machete, Vasagatan is also a reference to Sweden, it’s the street where Redbeet Interactive is located
thanks for josh to testing if there is a limit to anything in this game..
what if they give the ability to convert an island as your personal island? they could add the npcs and a system that lets you find random npcs in islands that you can hire to work on your island. they would be kinda like the npcs in terraria. there could be a fisherman that sells baits and fishes, or a chef that sells cooked food. a rancher where you can set some animals, and he would raise them for you, maybe even a shipwright that can sell you custom rafts, that you CANT modify, but have special abilities unique to them.
you would park your raft there, it would save it, and give you a new one. there could, for example have a raft that is alot faster than your normal raft, or one that is slower but is armored and cant be damaged by sharks. there could be one that is built to fight and has diferent weapons built in. and another that has a seagul taser that cooks them in the air, giving you lots of feather.
and you could just get your back at anytime, since those rafts are prebuilt and uncustomizable. they also work as a challenge mode. maybe there's this very shitty raft that has barely any space.
One of the best games i have ever played, by far. However... its quite short. There should be WAY more content (4-6x the amount) and there should be workshop support. This game is a case that even modders cant save. There should also be support for modders to make custom storylines (islands, items, enemies, waypoints, etc). Then, and only then, there would be a chance to save this game.
how does this only have 6.5k views???? This is criminally underated
Ah yes, strawberries, the crop that bears the least amount of seeds!
I wish they had added Ghost ships/boats. Imagine sailing around in on your raft only to see a massive listing Container ship in the distance or a capsized cruise ship yet to take her final plunge. Another thing i wished they added was underwater cities you could make out under the water but never reach due to water pressure or a lack of air. Something that had always bother me with Raft is that is didn't feel apocalyptic enough. At most the flooded world has existed for only a handful of years, probably not even a decade, you would still see signs of the old world. Instead it's like the world jumped forward a few centuries.
i remember this being youtuber bait back in like the 2010s
The basic principle of Raft is so solid. The basic gameplay loop of survival/crafting games from the earliest days has always been building your base, scavenging resources from somewhere, returning to expand your base, repeat. By making the base mobile and tethering you to it for your survival it streamlines the loop a lot and removes the downtime that a lot of survival games suffer from where you're treading the same ground over and over just to get between the stuff you need and your base. I hope someone takes that idea and runs with it in the future while avoiding some of Raft's more egregious pitfalls.
how about a new game plus mode where you turn your raft into a city with the NPCs you "recruit" along the way manning the raft. and you with your new tech and fancy tools set off on a smaller raft to do a bunch of scavenging again.
I played Raft pretty early on, and when I saw it's updates I wasn't interested in playing through all of the story because the combat didn't look interesting to me and I was worried it would turn out boring. This video actually convinced me to consider playing through the story mode again.
The birds throwing the stones made me refund the game.
kinda wild to find out 3 months after i completed this game to the ending it had. (march 2022) that it all ends so soon
Spring green is my favorite color, and if i'm correct, your profile picture is literally one of the first results for Spring Green on google. I... I have to subscribe.
I only really knew of Raft in it's very early version, where it was pretty much just that. You on a Raft. I was surprised to when I learned the game added multiplayer and accessible locations, but to see the whole scope of what all was added to the game is shocking. I don't know I think it was honestly more powerful of an experience in it's earlier version before even adding islands. Just the idea of being stranded and building up a little boat, despite not having anywhere to go, was neat...
you talkin about the final story part of the game sure does sound familiar of me playing, like at some point i just opend a guide even to like, get everything and puzzles solution watching and all of that stuff and then after saving the people, i was just, done, i went away from utopia and dit like some random isle stuff to like, build the boat out more, but eventualy i just....stopped
One simple question. What has this game done, that something like Subnautica hasn't done better?
thanks for doing subtitles for an hour long video
First video ive ever seen from you, i thoroughly enjoyed. If this isnt your usual content, and you enjoyed making this style content, please keep it up. Ill be on the lookout for more from your channel
I made it to 35 minutes in, now I have to complete the rest of the game before I can finish this video. This video makes me want to the play the game again. Good stuff so far! My only suggestion is that you should add chapters, going over each island and the final summary at the end (which I haven't watched).
Great video, I'd recommend covering things instead of saying you'll get to it, as saying that with 15 minutes left gave me some anxiety for sure
I enjoyed this video, your narrative skills are really good and make videos interensting, i suggest making more videos like this along with the half life ones! its great to see a person talking about a game they like
I had abhorrent RNG when I played it once with a friend.
Never touched it again. Was so dull.
There are a lot of bad games which are popular, and Raft isn't one of them.
Before I found your channel, I'd been watching IGP a lot the last few months, and caught his Let's Plays of "Voidtrain". I gotta say, the mechanics of the two are SO similar, I had to check to see if the developer was the same and that the The Raft was more of their initial concept. No. Different companies, similar development. I wonder how many other games were similar that came out for free-early-access at the same time?
I don't get why they added story to Raft.
I first saw some content on Raft (didn't we all?) and was like "Wow, this building game looks cool as you gather resources from the world! But it's still in early access. I think this game needs more random content - cool islands, funny chests on those islands, small and large, fun structures to loot, more variety in the seas" - and then we got *destinations* and *places you're forced to go?*
like the gameplay loop of Raft is set up for a random exploratory time! find some stuff, find some other stuff, all different all random no matter which way whatever you go you'll find helpful things to expand your raft and... fixed, forced, points, with bossfights and NPCs just... _don't fit into that at all?_
like it'd be minecraft if the only fortress ever generated at (8,000 9,000) in your world and so you HAD to go there to get important items and it's just like ???
It had SO MUCH potential and it’s heartbreaking
I wonder if this could be considered canon to Sealab 2021 and SOMA
Kind of wild to think a successful and popular survival game just...stop updating so soon
In my opinion the Rhino Shark boss fight was better then Alpha. Alpha was just really annoying and consisted of jumping over radioactive puddles, eating food, and stabbing
I played Raft with 3 friends after the final update released and i really enjoyed the adventure. unlike you, i didnt actually mind the concept of not having any endgame content. leaving utopia after the finale, setting sails one last time was an awesome feeling and i didnt mind "finishing" the game and not returning afterwards. i think too many games feel forced to include some grindy post credit content, which leads to players simply playing on until theyre bored or burned out. while i do enjoy this kind of experience sometimes, i also enjoyed quitting on a high and i remember the game much more fondly because of that i believe. i also think the decision to make chapter 3 the final update is completely valid. not every game needs to be life service. you get more than enough content and quality playtime out of the purchase price. just my 2 cents
i never knew raft had a story, i thought it was just an infinite ocean
I personally loved this game, but I do understand why some people would critique, it has many things that should be fixed or changed and the bugs are almost constant.
I'm gonna criticise you for the clickbaity title.
From this video alone, Looks like a game that was done competently enough and at worst just lacked bit "extra" at the end.
This sounds nowhere near one of the worst games anyone present here ha played.
Raft's status as of right now is pretty disappointing. That much is true. It's really sad seeing such a creative game just... end without giving the player motivation to keep playing. It grants many tools but no incentive to use them.
But why does it worry me so much? Because I'm afraid other game devs will see the relative success of the game and follow suit. The best example i can think of is Scrap Mechanic, a game I really love but that's currently dying due to lack of content, updates and communication. I think the devs of raft are somehow related to SM's, and it worries me the prospect of having this game be abandoned after the full release. SM is another game with creative mechanics and exploration and experimentation in mind, but at this rate it's going to becone a disappointing mess
Scrap Mechanic is still getting updates (they're working on Chapter 2 of the story right now with the underground cave stuff), it's just that the updates take a while. I guess maybe they have a small studio? There also isn't a lack of communication at all, the team makes dev blogs every so often (they are a bit difficult to find though).
Pretty sure the relation between scrap mechanic and raft is just that the studio behind scrap mechanic published raft, raft itself was made by different people I think.
I love-hate Raft as I always have bad luck with the RNG stuff. The story is mildly interesting and the building mechanics do work well, it's the crafting that is problematic as I can never find what I need for creating the circuit boards or other advanced material. It's nice that the game has a creative mode, but I don't want to rely on that to get through the game. I've tried the game on Peaceful, easy and Normal mode - the RNG gets me every single time.
Great video and takes, especially the suggestions about islands! Chapters would be awesome on a longer format video like this, but otherwise, thanks for making this!
Tbh, I couldn't stop thinking about how useless the loot in utopia is after you mentioned it, titanium tools being the ones that hurt the most.
All your suggestions really make a lot of sense. Many games manage to live forever thanks to mod support, but you can only hope. I mean, terraria devs said they were done... Maybe some day a surprise update will drop?
I have 3.6 hours. My biggest disappointment, there wasn't an out of bounds for going too far out.
I glitched through the metal beams underneath Veruna Point and gave up on the game, all that slow swimming progress lost. 😢
If you just stand still for about 60 seconds, an unstuck button will appear :P
@@1lucia the problem wasn't that I was stuck, the problem was the unstuck teleported me to the surface of one of the skyscrapers, meaning I'd have to do all that swimming all over again.
Since this is a drawn out survival game with an eventually end, imagine how amazing it would ve if you could start new, high quality, custom made storylines that you can download from the workshop
That way, always starting from nothing and building your way back up makes these eventually repetitive, one-off systems have purpose to grind out again if its a means to an end for getting to the end of a highly curated and highly rated workshop story.
And then yes! Custom items, biomes, enemies, tools, resources, blueprints, basically adding or being able to tweak anything in the game, would make this the PERFECT survival game you'd want to play again and again if it meant high quality custom stories were released
Wow....Olof is a horrible person. He's gotta be the closest thing the game has to a main villain.
Amazing video of an amazing game. The only thing I do not agree with is the thing about being handholded... Yes the game looks easier now than before, but I'm sure the journal, and everything else related to the lore was put there because the game shifted from a pure survival game to a storydriven one..... So it had to explain some stuff.... In a way, they sacrificed some exploring excitement, for a story wit, in my opinion a good message.
Whats funny about the title of this video, I had absolutely ZERO interest in playing this game until watching this video. the story is interesting and it has more features than I thought a game of this nature would have. In fact, it seems a little over engineered for such a simple concept. It almost sort of reeks of the devs were impatient to move on to a new project.
It kind of comes off like the Developers have been doing Raft for so long that they are honestly _bored_ with it. They want to move onto something else, so they wrapped-up the story as quickly as possible. And I gotta say, based on what I've seen here, the story seems disappointing.
Honestly, Raft is appealing as an existential-horror game; you're invested in the mystery of "what happened" to this world. The answer just being the usual "Global Warming" narrative is frankly disappointing, as even that wouldn't cause devastation this drastic. So finding out that there was no "greater cause" was kind of boring.
Plus, the stuff with finding Olaf and Utopia really wasn't that interesting. Like I said, Raft is an Existential Horror - sure you're surviving...but what's the point? There's no one else alive out here; all you get is the scraps of what remained of civilization and a breadcrumb of those who survived like you - those who tried to rebuild their lives after this catastrophe...But in the end, it's an inevitability. I liked the game better where this was an empty world and you were merely exploring the remnants of human existence. I was certain that once you got the end of the game, it was going to reveal that all the other survivors had died - killed by their own hubris or some other factor. Leaving you, the last human on Earth...and thus making Mankind's extinction inevitable.
Then they started adding other playable characters and more or less confirming that there were indeed still survivors out there. It kind of lessened the impact.
You can tell that originally they had a story in mind with lore and everything mapped out, but it all got pushed aside in updates 2 and 3. You're obviously not the last human on Earth. In the first page of the journal they say that you're a "Forward Scout", something that is absolutely forgotten aside from one of Olaf's last lines of dialogue. And originally the last line of the first page of the journal was "See you someplace dry - Sis", which is something else that was abandoned.
i used to play the game with my mom sometimes but the server broke and we didnt play since then and she doesnt have alot of time to play so thats kinda sad
No more updates? Lack of communication? Methinks there's another ARK situation here...
I had no idea the game had had so many updates! 😮 It’s has a kind of Subnautica vibe
the momen I saw KrugerOPS's 100 days of raft vid I went to xbox store onlyto find out this is not available on xbox 😔 here's hoping we get to play this someday..
Sounds like they got bored with the game and don't want anything else to do with it, which is very disappointing.
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The game music is just perfect
I have thalassophobia( fear of lage and un known boddys of water ) and I still love the game!
I tried playing Raft (mostly because my friends wanted me to play with them), but I could never really fully get into it.
Not saying the game was bad, it just seemed to lack for me…
Well, a change in content I'll admit... I wasn't prepared.
I will admit that I have never played Raft and... I probably won't play for now, I wanted this game once because it reminded me a lot of games that I already knew and loved, but there was no money for it and I forgot about the game itself and now knowing that it is still a game it's not being developed anymore... well, I don't know.
Maybe I would buy it but I'm afraid it will be similar to The Forest: I bought it because it looked cool, but honestly without multiplayer this game is quite boring and I don't think I spent an hour in it, so it's possible that with Raft I would be same.
Despite this, I must admit that the film is quite good, you certainly did your best and... maybe I'm still not ready for a change of content, but I'm curious what will appear next! ;>
I honestly think rafts story was soooooo good. Even though you beat it in like 2 days. I love raft i think it is such a classic
Honestly, I love Raft but the fact that we need to use an external program to add mods is really annoying and it's the only reason i don't play that much anymore...
I really hope the devs actually come back to the game, even tho it's unlikely. As you said Raft could be on the same level of recognition and popularity as hits such as Subnautica
My friends and I wanted to ditch the raft for the super yacht so badly lol
Man , you should definitely create a discord server for your community
I have no idea about discord sadly lol