Knowing Joe's history and STILL working with him then complain about what everyone already knows about him is insansity. He not even lying to them anymore, they just choosing to be dummys
@@Tanatanamontana I agree I think Ish specifically questions everything to trip him up in a lie. He seems to have a great memory and Joe claims to have a bad memory so it’s easy to catch him in lies
Some people specifically friends like to believe they’ll be the exception to the rule. Until they find out the hard way there are no exceptions. If he did it to R &M it’s only a matter of time until he does it to the new co hosts
Joe did the same thing to Rory and Mal with the Patreon deal, they found out when we did lmao!!! Rory was so salty in the face but still forced out a congratulations 😂😂😂 mal was looking on his phone.
They are crazy because I would’ve never recorded any patreon episodes. Also patreon was not a “ deal” he just joined a pre existing subscription based service just like many other content creators and UA-camrs
Joe will always exploit a grey area and choose money over friendship. And yes, the merch looks cheap. Remember, Mal was curating the merch before the split.
The crazy part is that Joe complained about Complex trying to do the same thing to him a d Ak with sneaker ads. Here he is doing it to his people. He can have ads and keep the money, but like Freeze said, I'm not participating. Joe's merch is ugly so Library doesn't have to ever worry about being undercut by Joe.
I remember Joe saying if he brings in ads then he eats differently. Joe has been upfront about wanting all the revenue to himself. His team is on salary, the most they can hope for is a bonus.
I mean he’s not wrong. He’s able to get a deal with prize picks because of who he is and the value his network brings. In his eyes his co host aren’t making or breaking a deal for him.
@@SmolDuragTVGood point but if im a co host and im not getting paid.the word prize or picks won't even come out my mouth why am I talking about an AD that im not making money off of
@antoinelove1329 Joe definitely needs to manage his team's expectations. Maybe offer 6 month bonuses or other incentives to strengthen his team and boos morale. He can't afford another staff turnover, it took too long to find his footing.
I don’t know why people don’t understand that JBP is a company. I think the lines of business and friendship get blurred often…every time a company gets a lucrative deal doesn’t mean the employees are entitled to an increase, bonus, or gift. The guest he brings on cost money to have, the space they’re in cost money to have, and his cohost cost money to have. You can tell Joe is actually putting money back into the pod because they’ll still be in Parks basement or worse and we wouldn’t see any growth. One things for sure, an employee who just shows up for work and gets paid will never be satisfied with their pay. Joe could pay them all a million each and they’ll say how are you able to pay us this much, you must be making billions 😂
@@nikkideevah of course, yes if it’s in the contract. But at the same time contracts usually leave no room for grey areas. I know people feel Joe do bad business but he hasn’t been taken to court yet so it may be air tight.
@@5324man1 😂 if you can’t negate anything I said that’s fine…but caping and stating truth are two different things. I’ll wait for your reply to my initial comment because I’m sure you have more to offer than I’m caping
Pocket watching is presented as a bad thing here, but let me be completely clear: you should absolute 100 percent be pocket watching your employers. That's how you make sure you don't get screwed. Look out for number one, always.
This is the only industry that expects the owner to give them a piece of everything. You think ESPN is splitting ad revenue with their talent? Did CBS give Tony Romo a piece of the Super Bowl ad money? Mofos are too entitled!
Some ads might be shared and some may not. He is the one who decides since he is the boss and he is paying them their salary he is not entitled to sharing any of the ads.
On contract renewal , ISH is going to get hit with the “Bethany clause” A term that has been coined in the industry for a contract provision that grants the network a specific percentage of profits of a personality's private businesses that are promoted on screen. 💰
Why would Joe have to split the money from the ad? They have a contract, and I'm Prizepicks may be helping pay them now. Now, if they get involved the way they do, make sure that pieces of the ad money are in your contract. All that being said, Flip hasn't recovered since Rory stated that he makes 40K a month.
Joe is strategic I can almost guarantee Joe was pushing for them to sign contracts early on cuz he knew he was getting an ad deal I remember when they kept having them contract talks and Joe was asking ish why he ain’t sign yet and flip also being combative about it was telling but I believe joe wanted to have them locked in before he got it so they wouldn’t get a cut or asked for it to be in their contract
Joe should be sharing the pay because he was the one first protesting the ads and use to make fun of the podcast that ads and paywalls and now he’s on Patreon and has ads now in the pod.
I don’t think Ish is jealous of Joe I think it’s the other way around . I also think he does it to keep it in his back pocket so when it’s time to reup he’s gonna make sure not to short himself. He’s an actual successful business owner and unlike most of them I don’t think he needs the podcast
@@ashleecain because they don’t work in corporate America. I guess they don’t know people in corporate are usually up for review quarterly and get raises based on performance
If I have a company and I have employees, that make watever amount per hour, and then I set up advertising deals. That ain’t got shit to do with the employees
Joe should keep the AD money, and the guys should always fight for a raise at contract renewal. They came on as employees and should be paid as employees.
Get out yo feelings when it comes to business if I pay you everything that’s in your contract you have nothing to complain about. And as me as a CEO of the business, find a new Avenue of money that doesn’t mean I have to split it with you immediately or you’re entitled to that money. you’re entitled to what your contract says. Now once your contract is up and we are renegotiating if you want to try to negotiate that into your new deal we can talk, doesn’t mean you’ll get it, but we can talk. but nobody’s doing anything wrong to anybody in this situation.
Joe shouldn’t share the earnings of prize pix because everyone is salary also joe shouldn’t get none of ish’s merch money because that’s ish own business they don’t owe each other nothin but tryna undercut ish merch is insane
Joe gotta start specifically stating in his contracts that the cast does not get anything for ads, every extra piece of money Joe gets the cast starts 👀👀 lol that’s gotta be annoying
I haven’t watched since flip pocket watched the FBA talking about reparations. I lost a ton of respect for him over that. I’ll be back when Mel comes back
First and foremost most black people, y all don’t know what their contracts say. Just because they are friends doesn’t mean that they get special privileges- first rule of business.
I honestly feel like joe is just making up for what he wanted his rap career to be. He finally found a groove and by any means he's not gonna lose this time by any means necessary
At any job you work in America it does not matter how much the company makes or what new income streams it has your income or salary is still the same. Only because he knows them personally is it that they think they are supposed to get a raise every time it looks like he’s making more money..
"Why can't Joe Budden figure out merch..."? You remember there was a Joe Budden fits page? Joe cannot dress. Joe cannot even hire a decent sylist. So he can't design merch or hire a good designer, he just had bad taste in clothes lol
Joe being Joe lol I agree on the merch as well I would love to buy a dope piece but this merch is so low effort but at least the price point is more reasonable I guess.
You guys have to remember, Ish isn’t stupid. His lawyer clearly told him whatever you create outside of the pod Joe is not entitled to a percentage based on the contract he signed. So now Joe is tight after seeing his merch is actually a success
They do not get paid or improve/develop if there is no sponsor or patreon! Flipp needs to go and get his own stuff. And no, that sounds like a 360 if joe eats off everything they do.
The pocket watching that Flip does is not C.O.E. there is always truth in the jokes. And i do not think Ish is at home pocket watching Joe, he has too much going on to worry about what the next man is making.
Joe Budden GOES OFF & CALLS OUT Danny From The Stop for saying he DISSED Rory & Mal!
ua-cam.com/video/pLbzaSUzULY/v-deo.html
"Why can't Joe Budden figure out merch?"...google Joe Buden fits, your answer is there. 🤣
I miss that Twitter account lol
@@nikkideevah Yo i forgot that page! Whoever that was, was destroying him every few days 🤣🤣🤣
Knowing Joe's history and STILL working with him then complain about what everyone already knows about him is insansity. He not even lying to them anymore, they just choosing to be dummys
😂😂😂
doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result - einstein
You took the comment right out of my head.
Honestly😂😂
So, your employer splits profits of the business with you? I don't understand 🤔
Ever since Rory talked about his pay, they’ve all been pocket watching.
I don’t think any of them do it in a malicious way I think they do it to know how they need to come at him when it’s time to reup.
@@shantamonique I don’t think any of it is malicious. I think they are hanging onto every word he has said or says since then.
clocked it!
@@Tanatanamontana I agree I think Ish specifically questions everything to trip him up in a lie. He seems to have a great memory and Joe claims to have a bad memory so it’s easy to catch him in lies
@@shantamonique it seems like Ish sides with R&M. He’s the one that offered pushback on Joe when I use to watch.
This what they deserve. They saw how he treated Rory and Mal and still chose to become his employees.
Some people specifically friends like to believe they’ll be the exception to the rule. Until they find out the hard way there are no exceptions. If he did it to R &M it’s only a matter of time until he does it to the new co hosts
Joe did the same thing to Rory and Mal with the Patreon deal, they found out when we did lmao!!! Rory was so salty in the face but still forced out a congratulations 😂😂😂 mal was looking on his phone.
They are crazy because I would’ve never recorded any patreon episodes. Also patreon was not a “ deal” he just joined a pre existing subscription based service just like many other content creators and UA-camrs
@@shantamoniquehe definitely made it sound like he had a position over at Patreon and was given a fake title 😂
Joe will always exploit a grey area and choose money over friendship. And yes, the merch looks cheap. Remember, Mal was curating the merch before the split.
Facts!!! He has been taught well by the Oppressors👀👀👀
Was he? I thought Joe wanted Mal to do it but he wouldn't
It would make sense to why their hasn't been merch sense
@@c-low-p3798 Joe came out with his own merch! lol. At lower prices too. Lol
Like Joe said in the past he “Doesn’t honor contracts.”
"I don't give a fuck about no contract! I don't honor no contract!" I'll never forget that tone of voice
The crazy part is that Joe complained about Complex trying to do the same thing to him a d Ak with sneaker ads. Here he is doing it to his people.
He can have ads and keep the money, but like Freeze said, I'm not participating.
Joe's merch is ugly so Library doesn't have to ever worry about being undercut by Joe.
I remember Joe saying if he brings in ads then he eats differently. Joe has been upfront about wanting all the revenue to himself. His team is on salary, the most they can hope for is a bonus.
I mean he’s not wrong. He’s able to get a deal with prize picks because of who he is and the value his network brings. In his eyes his co host aren’t making or breaking a deal for him.
@@SmolDuragTVGood point but if im a co host and im not getting paid.the word prize or picks won't even come out my mouth why am I talking about an AD that im not making money off of
@antoinelove1329 Joe definitely needs to manage his team's expectations. Maybe offer 6 month bonuses or other incentives to strengthen his team and boos morale. He can't afford another staff turnover, it took too long to find his footing.
Joe budden don’t got no swag so his merch ain’t gon be fly lol I ain’t even surprised
An Excel spreadsheet is fuckin insane 🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂
@sunsetwavey 🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣 that would be mad funny
I don’t know why people don’t understand that JBP is a company. I think the lines of business and friendship get blurred often…every time a company gets a lucrative deal doesn’t mean the employees are entitled to an increase, bonus, or gift. The guest he brings on cost money to have, the space they’re in cost money to have, and his cohost cost money to have. You can tell Joe is actually putting money back into the pod because they’ll still be in Parks basement or worse and we wouldn’t see any growth. One things for sure, an employee who just shows up for work and gets paid will never be satisfied with their pay. Joe could pay them all a million each and they’ll say how are you able to pay us this much, you must be making billions 😂
There’s always one who’s gonna cape for joes antics 🤦🏾♂️
It does men’s that if it’s in the contract
@@nikkideevah of course, yes if it’s in the contract. But at the same time contracts usually leave no room for grey areas. I know people feel Joe do bad business but he hasn’t been taken to court yet so it may be air tight.
@@5324man1 😂 if you can’t negate anything I said that’s fine…but caping and stating truth are two different things. I’ll wait for your reply to my initial comment because I’m sure you have more to offer than I’m caping
Agreed!
Rory and Mal merch is REAL NICE. ngl
its simple, jbp tries to do to much
Pocket watching is presented as a bad thing here, but let me be completely clear: you should absolute 100 percent be pocket watching your employers. That's how you make sure you don't get screwed. Look out for number one, always.
I think mostly everything Flip does on the show (contracts, pocket watching) is him setting up his exit narrative.
Then he’ll just hit them with is that in your contract?
This is the only industry that expects the owner to give them a piece of everything. You think ESPN is splitting ad revenue with their talent? Did CBS give Tony Romo a piece of the Super Bowl ad money? Mofos are too entitled!
Joe is their boss what’s so hard to understand …you don’t question how much your boss makes …you’re an employee worry about employee things
I remember when he used to claim he hate ads lol I agree Joe merch looks bad
The 700 Club is or at least was a televangelist broadcast back in the cable days😂😂
maybe that was the joke but it didnt land lol
Right for people not to know lol. Either not Christian or didn’t spend enough time with Grandma 😅
No one’s waiting on a “Ish” merch drop. Maybe to laugh at it
waiting for midnight for the ish merch a vibe lol not really
If it’s one thing I’ve learned watching Rory over the years, everybody does not create good merch!!!
Prize picks trash 🗑️
He did bust down the $$$$ on that ad and initially on Prize picks
Joe always finds ways to let his employees and "friends" know that they are all expendable and temporary
Some ads might be shared and some may not. He is the one who decides since he is the boss and he is paying them their salary he is not entitled to sharing any of the ads.
Grimeball Joe strikes again.
I think Emanny mention something about if he gets a ad can he bring it up. And Joe was like "yeah on YOUR IG!"
Didn't Joe want $$$ from Complex for advertising sneakers on Everyday Struggle?
I just realized I’m watching a deranged Joe fan 😂
ok Broku
Joe + friendship + bad business = the holy trinity
FACTS
Ish contract content will be spectacular
💰 season for me lol
Rory and Mal merch is🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Why do you have Rory and mal patron link in your description? 😂
its a saved template
Good business says you should, but if they’re salary workers then no.
On contract renewal , ISH is going to get hit with the “Bethany clause”
A term that has been coined in the industry for a contract provision that grants the network a specific percentage of profits of a personality's private businesses that are promoted on screen. 💰
Why would Joe have to split the money from the ad? They have a contract, and I'm Prizepicks may be helping pay them now. Now, if they get involved the way they do, make sure that pieces of the ad money are in your contract.
All that being said, Flip hasn't recovered since Rory stated that he makes 40K a month.
No. Because they are on salary.
That’s why he has them on salary lol
@@paultaylor3841 🤦 grammar police 😂
Also Joe tryna put people in a Podcast 360 is crazy lol
Man you hating on this one … 😂 and no I don’t think there’s real issues with Flip addressing the Prize Picks
sure buddy lol
@@TheStop well you said let you know what we think lol … I like most of your content, just comes off as hating a little bit on this one that’s all
I didn’t even know Joe dropped merch
Right RNM merch looks professional and JB merch plain like he did them himself with no thought process involved 🤷🏿♀️
Swear I just told my wife that i found it odd that all the prizepick commercials have black comedians...
The rest of the crew should get up and step to the side out of camera view whenever Joe does his ad.
As employees they can accept the terms Joe offers or renegotiate. I'm not sure why the narrative is that the co hosts are JBP partners
Joe’s right. They get a salary ads are just a friendly incentive
Lmaoo nah that merch looks like Joe made a call cuz Ish beat him to the punch. He was like "idgaf release them shits!"
Joe is strategic I can almost guarantee Joe was pushing for them to sign contracts early on cuz he knew he was getting an ad deal I remember when they kept having them contract talks and Joe was asking ish why he ain’t sign yet and flip also being combative about it was telling but I believe joe wanted to have them locked in before he got it so they wouldn’t get a cut or asked for it to be in their contract
Joe should be sharing the pay because he was the one first protesting the ads and use to make fun of the podcast that ads and paywalls and now he’s on Patreon and has ads now in the pod.
I agree Danny. I've noticed for a while how much pocket watching Ish does of Joe. It almost gives off a little jealousy vibes.
ish does it at least once a week lol
I don’t think Ish is jealous of Joe I think it’s the other way around . I also think he does it to keep it in his back pocket so when it’s time to reup he’s gonna make sure not to short himself. He’s an actual successful business owner and unlike most of them I don’t think he needs the podcast
Ish is low with the pocket watching, flip is sloppy with it
Employees always trying to tell the owner how to do business 😂
Idk why people say stuff like this because even in corporate employee surveys are done and listen to staff feedback
@@ashleecain because they don’t work in corporate America. I guess they don’t know people in corporate are usually up for review quarterly and get raises based on performance
If I have a company and I have employees, that make watever amount per hour, and then I set up advertising deals. That ain’t got shit to do with the employees
Rory & mal's merch is waaay better than joes💯
700 club used to be a ministry network back in the day.
Joe should keep the AD money, and the guys should always fight for a raise at contract renewal. They came on as employees and should be paid as employees.
If it’s not in the contract, no they shouldn’t get paid just because.
I think flip is money hungry end of the day but joe hangs it in front they face for his own entertainment
Do they think news anchors get a piece of ad money when Pepsi has commercials on Fox5?
They definitely feel a type of way. Also I fuck with the Mel shirts and the bionic 6 ones.
one thing about joe, he’s always consistent when it comes to fugg shi smh
Good point about Joe making merch as soon as Ish does
Get out yo feelings when it comes to business if I pay you everything that’s in your contract you have nothing to complain about. And as me as a CEO of the business, find a new Avenue of money that doesn’t mean I have to split it with you immediately or you’re entitled to that money. you’re entitled to what your contract says. Now once your contract is up and we are renegotiating if you want to try to negotiate that into your new deal we can talk, doesn’t mean you’ll get it, but we can talk. but nobody’s doing anything wrong to anybody in this situation.
Ish is a Business Man so I don't think he will have anything to worry about
They pocket watching bcuz they don't trust him and rightfully so
Joe shouldn’t share the earnings of prize pix because everyone is salary also joe shouldn’t get none of ish’s merch money because that’s ish own business they don’t owe each other nothin but tryna undercut ish merch is insane
It’s COE tho🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ But he doesn’t do ads?
Can I get a timestamp lol
Danny why are you talking like an 80s news reporter. Extra seasoning at the end of certain phrases 😂 chill we rock with you
Buying Ish merch is kinda wild lol
Joe gotta start specifically stating in his contracts that the cast does not get anything for ads, every extra piece of money Joe gets the cast starts 👀👀 lol that’s gotta be annoying
👀👀 is the perfect emojis lol
Joe Budden when Spotify gave complex that add money: 👀👀
@@josephjames335 and Spotify was annoyed 😂
If you get into business with Joe at this point you need to know you're just an employee. Theres no profit sharing unfortunately.
I haven’t watched since flip pocket watched the FBA talking about reparations. I lost a ton of respect for him over that. I’ll be back when Mel comes back
No they have contracts... if u want a piece of the deal add it .. talk to your lawyers .. either u get what u want or get let go..
First and foremost most black people, y all don’t know what their contracts say. Just because they are friends doesn’t mean that they get special privileges- first rule of business.
Flips gonna beat up Danny 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I honestly feel like joe is just making up for what he wanted his rap career to be. He finally found a groove and by any means he's not gonna lose this time by any means necessary
Y'all just be saying shit because Joe shouldn't get any money from Ish merch period he didn't invest in anything
lol ish definitely not doing that
At any job you work in America it does not matter how much the company makes or what new income streams it has your income or salary is still the same. Only because he knows them personally is it that they think they are supposed to get a raise every time it looks like he’s making more money..
I don't like pocket watching, I think its messy; but I do wish Danny actually did some pocket watching for us.
All I wanna know is, does he get points from the loses of ppl who use his promo code?
I mean Joe is probably knowledgeable about Fedoras, Cardigans and Socks with Slides
"Why can't Joe Budden figure out merch..."? You remember there was a Joe Budden fits page? Joe cannot dress. Joe cannot even hire a decent sylist. So he can't design merch or hire a good designer, he just had bad taste in clothes lol
Nah they gotta get they own ads. I know flip can get some ads he got personality.
U only get wat is in your contract. Period. Ice says it all the time.
They starting to see what Rory and Mal was talking about smh. I was a JBP w/ Rory & Mal super fan so yea, we know.
Joe being Joe lol I agree on the merch as well I would love to buy a dope piece but this merch is so low effort but at least the price point is more reasonable I guess.
Ish has been getting more and more quiet on the podcast. I suspect something is brewing behind the scenes.
Why am I supposed to care about another person's money?
If in 2024 you are willingly doing “business” with Joe Budden you are playing yourself.
You guys have to remember, Ish isn’t stupid. His lawyer clearly told him whatever you create outside of the pod Joe is not entitled to a percentage based on the contract he signed. So now Joe is tight after seeing his merch is actually a success
You don't find that "suspishisssssssss" ( Umar voice)
Why should they be in a deal? He’s pay these people like employees they are not partners
700 club is a old church show. Its a play on words
I bet Ish gets most of if not all his own Merch money in his new contract that's why he did that
You mad that Ish don’t participate with your new program. 😫
Joe's outta line on this one.
They do not get paid or improve/develop if there is no sponsor or patreon! Flipp needs to go and get his own stuff. And no, that sounds like a 360 if joe eats off everything they do.
If it’s not in there contract then they want get paid
If Ish's contract ends at the end of 2024, thats a long time away.
its really not lol
@@TheStop Bro, we're 3 months into the year.
The pocket watching that Flip does is not C.O.E. there is always truth in the jokes. And i do not think Ish is at home pocket watching Joe, he has too much going on to worry about what the next man is making.