It's meticulous, like Freeman's character. Just watch how he enters the crime scene at the start of the film. He doesn't open the door and break the tape, he takes a knife out and carefully cuts it then opens he door. It's the meticulous details like that which engrossed me.
What makes this film so great and realistic, is that John Doe’s Logic/Philosophy is correct. “You cannot tap someone on the shoulder anymore to get there attention, you have to use a Sledgehammer, and then you’ll find you have there attention”. Also, which is applicable to Se7en as a film itself, which is a faultless absolute masterpiece of a movie, again from John Doe “What I’ve done, is gonna be puzzled over, marvelled over, forever” I couldn’t have put it better myself. Masterpiece of a film, on every single level!
I remember the first time I saw this movie I was 12 and living with my grandma at the time because I broke my leg and my parents lived in a fourth floor so I couldn't climb up the stairs. I remember telling my mom to send me some movies to check out, I specifically said "some good things" She sent me a couple of my favorites at the time and Se7en. She said: "I know you'll love this". I delayed watching that movie for some time because I wasn't interested, thought it was just another cop flick. 15 years later it's my favorite movie. A true masterpiece.
I watched it at the time and in my opinion quite ground breaking. It also allowed Brad Pitt to be considered as a real actor rather than screen candy. It's without doubt in my top 5 best ever movies.
She ruined the movie recently. After her appearances on late night tv shows hyping up the jade egg, I always know the answer to "What's in the box?!?!"
the first time I saw this film... I had no idea what I was getting into, and it horrified me and I swore at the time that I'd never re-watch it. Since then though, its become one of the films I appreciate the most... its just so well written and so well acted. Easily in my top-10 best films ever, and I've probably re-watched it close to a dozen times
Seven, A movie I’ve seen (m) it over 20 times, absolutely brilliant. Even if Kevin Spacey is in it you can’t deny he’s an amazing actor playing his character.
Nope Nope someone without the knowledge of 8 languages and keyboard function. But hell if it was funny, can’t have much of a life going for ya...glad I amused you with with a unknown error 🥴.
@@juliajohansson7058 Since we do not know each other yet, I may as well preface that I am genuinely curious without judgment of any kind intended. Also, I don't recognize sarcasm well. What is the context for mentioning "knowledge of 8 languages"? In what I read as an implied comparison, who is it that knows 8 languages? Fluency in 8 would be a huge accomplishment, and even dialogue with others at a broken or basic level would impress me. Also, Julia, I wonder about the "(m)" in your main comment about the film's brilliance. Reply when you can. Thank you in advance.
@@siddharthraykar9476 right, I get that. I was just asking if he did know what was going on though. I've come across a few ppl online that didnt know lol
The "head in the box" thing reminds me of a comment Clive Barker made at the 1995 San Diego Comic Con. "A good director shows you things. A great director shows you things that aren't there."
You never see the severed head, there is however a single frame of Gwyneth Paltrow spliced in when Mills has his breakdown. It just hit me that the same thing happens in another movie directed by David Fincher that also stars Brad Pitt, that time it's not a picture of Gwyneth Paltrow though.
One of my top 5 favorite movies. It would definitely be different with Denzel and AL in the lead roles. I did notice that Kevin wasn't in listed on the movie which makes this plot twist more genius.
I was dubious after so many years of hearing all manner of trivia about this film...but you did indeed tell me several I didn't already know. So you earned your upvote.
Damn. As a Canadian, I was across the border in Buffalo, with my G.F at the time, shopping and we went to dinner and a movie. It was this movie and it was so amazing. Still a great watch today. Oh the 90's pushed out some great movies.
Man the victim actors were spot on. The Lust victim wanted to be naked in front of her crush, the Greed victim got more money for no reason, the obese guy was… obese. That casting director was spot on
An edited version of Closer (Precursor) by NIN was playing during the Opening Credits of the Film. And the Band Members of NIN, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, would then collaborate with the Director of Se7en, David Fincher, years later
Fun Fact: Michael Myers is not a serial killer. He's a spree killer as is Jason Vorhees. Freddie Kruger is a serial killer if we're mentioning slasher film killers.
Pretty sure the details around Denzel are fragments. My recollection is that at one time he was set to star in it and demanded an almost entire re-write that changed the entire tone and significant events. I think Kevin or David Fincher say on the commentary the script went through around 7 incarnations before coming right back to original script. You also left out one of the most interesting details, this project was shelved for some years and it wasn’t until the success of “Silence of the Lambs” that it was given new hope of being made. Thereby crediting the dramatic increase of serial killer movies in the 90’s and beyond was more due to Silence than Se7en, but no doubt is as much a classic in cinematic history.
Also David Fincher used Nine Inch Nails' "Closer" precursor remix for the amazing opening credits. Then they (David Fincher and NIN's mastermind Trent Reznor) will go on to make three movie together in the future.
Director: "We didnt have anything in the box. It was just a box." Fans: "SAW IT MYSELF! THERES A HEAD IN THE BOX" Director: "No literally.. we filmed an empty box." Fans: "LIAR!!"
Another interesting fact..... When Brad Pitt slipped and fell through the rear windshield of the cab The stunt driver in the cab was no other than Kane Hodder (Jason Voorhees)
For some reason, the first time I saw this movie I thought it was the unborn baby in the box. And this just blew my mind... never realized that Mills is the only one we see commit murder. Damn I love this movie!
It's funny that there is the mention of it being a Batman movie because after we saw it, a friend and I said it seemed more like the darker Batman comics that were popular in the late 1980s and 1990s.
"The Other Lust victim didn't get quite as much to do". Were they expecting her to dance around like Michigan J. Frog? "The Greed victim negotiated himself a raise". Sounds like someone really got into their role.
@qrufus, Two fun things for you: 1. "Hello, my baby, hello, my honey, hello, my rag time gal." The reference to what I applaud as a cartoon classic tickled me. What was your reaction to the "Alien" spoof of M.J. Frog in Space Balls? 2. Since you exist here in Comments for a film whose creators respect audience intellect, and since you share a name with actor Rufus Sewell, I recommend the Director's Cut (and only the Director's Cut) of "Dark City". For whatever all that is worth to you, thank you for reading my reply.
@@missmoanypants in the bottom of the well learning to fear Bats... The version of the Theory I saw placed Se7en during the 'First Attack' on Gotham that Ra's cited and the Wayne's helped to fight (and which produced Joe Chill who would eventually kill them)
"the head in the box" misnomer is because just before Mills shoots Doe (while he is pointing the gun at him) there is a brief flash frame of his wife smiling. For some reason some people misremember this as the flash showing her head in the box. I've personally had this with two different people-one even thinking they changed it for the dvd :/
He-he, seeing something you didn't. I remember my second viewing of Reservoir Dogs where I went: Hey, where did the robbery go? Wasn't it there the last time? Yup... great writing (and acting).
I’m lost on #1. You said you can’t see Gwenyth’s head in the box? You can see the split second clip of it and if you pause it just right and go frame by frame then you can stop it just right to see her head in a box.
I never noticed it untill today, but when Sommerset and Mills interview Wild Bill in his shop Mills shows a police sketch and asks: "This man?". Wild Bill then answers: "Yeah. John Doe. It's an easy name to remember. He had a limp." Is it just me or is this a hidden reference to Kevin Spaceys other character Keyzer Soze from The Usual Suspects?
I never truly appreciated the movie: it didn’t seem to me to be as great as I’d expected, although because of how everyone’s received it here, I think I’ll watch it again.
Reportedly, Andrew Kevin Waller submitted the script and a production studio script reader commented, "This guy needs help." Walker thought it meant help writing scripts, but it actually meant mental help. 😅
You commented on Se7en's role in popularizing serial-killer movies, pointing to the number of such movies made in subsequent decades but pretending the 80's never happened.
I actually knew 4-5 of things already. Great video nonetheless! Se7en is a great and worthy film. if it's not part of the national archive, it should be.
The head was in deleted scenes or behind the scenes footage on directors cut DVD. They did have Paltrow's fake head in a prop box. They explaine the reasoning for not showing it in commentary
Don't they show Gwyeneth Paltrow's head for a single frame right before Brad Pitt fires? They used the same head again for Contagion during the scalping scene. I've paused the movie at the exact moment that the film show's it, David Fincher's just screwing with us, I could show you a screenshot if you'd like?
I don't see it that way but since something like this is up to the individual perspective I can accept you see it that way even if I don't understand why.
@@gimbobjenkins405 It is that the movie did such a great job with feelings and atmosphere. That I enjoyed it and recognize that it is a great movie. Yet it did it so well that it Disturbed me enough to not want to see it again. Does that help a bit?
You guys missed making Ei8ht as number 8 on the list and 4 out of these were basically the actors weren't the first choice that's just Hollywood. Most of movies don't get their "ideal" person in their movie but sometimes it's a blessing. You just might strike gold.
words cannot properly describe how awesome this masterpiece film was for me.....
Me too fam. Me too.
Get you into law?
Agreed 👍👍👍👍
It's meticulous, like Freeman's character. Just watch how he enters the crime scene at the start of the film. He doesn't open the door and break the tape, he takes a knife out and carefully cuts it then opens he door. It's the meticulous details like that which engrossed me.
You need many many years of therapy
What makes this film so great and realistic, is that John Doe’s Logic/Philosophy is correct. “You cannot tap someone on the shoulder anymore to get there attention, you have to use a Sledgehammer, and then you’ll find you have there attention”. Also, which is applicable to Se7en as a film itself, which is a faultless absolute masterpiece of a movie, again from John Doe “What I’ve done, is gonna be puzzled over, marvelled over, forever” I couldn’t have put it better myself. Masterpiece of a film, on every single level!
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Ok, grammar police! 👮 😊😂😂😂
@@stevengreen7447 someone needs to help you. Good luck if you ever need to create a rezumay. I’m shut thay will bea imprezed
I remember the first time I saw this movie
I was 12 and living with my grandma at the time because I broke my leg and my parents lived in a fourth floor so I couldn't climb up the stairs. I remember telling my mom to send me some movies to check out, I specifically said "some good things"
She sent me a couple of my favorites at the time and Se7en. She said: "I know you'll love this".
I delayed watching that movie for some time because I wasn't interested, thought it was just another cop flick.
15 years later it's my favorite movie. A true masterpiece.
You saw it aged 12????
David Stone-haigh Yes indeed
I watched it at the time and in my opinion quite ground breaking.
It also allowed Brad Pitt to be considered as a real actor rather than screen candy.
It's without doubt in my top 5 best ever movies.
idk why but these late '90s films are so brilliant for me, i think ive got obsessions with '90s films. And se7en is one of them
It's because there are some incredible movies in there. And Se7en is indeed one of them.
Because they hired writers to actually author the script. Most movies nowadays have a poor and simple script
It's David Fincher it has nothing to do with movies today
Yeah, David Fincher than had another in Fight Club to be among the numerous amazing films in 1999.
Jack Napier Fincher is the best
Now I sorta want to hear Stallone yelling "what's in the box"
Yo Mack wuts in de box eh?
ey yo, what'sin tha fuckin booox
Adrian!!!!
Ew
Lol.
Perfect film, perfect performances and no sequel. Boom!
I mean it's a David Fincher movie
Boom! You looking for this?
Perfect
Shhhh they might hear you 😂
TV series/mini-series, coming is 3, 2, 1 ...
I miss the 90's, so many great movies.
The 90’s were really the best decade for movies. I’ve always said that too!
2010s were amazing too
Everytime I see a box get delivered in a crime show or movie I always am disappointed if it doesn't contain Gwyneth Paltrow's head.
She ruined the movie recently. After her appearances on late night tv shows hyping up the jade egg, I always know the answer to "What's in the box?!?!"
Every time I see Palthrow's head I think of a box
the first time I saw this film... I had no idea what I was getting into, and it horrified me and I swore at the time that I'd never re-watch it. Since then though, its become one of the films I appreciate the most... its just so well written and so well acted. Easily in my top-10 best films ever, and I've probably re-watched it close to a dozen times
David Fincher credits Michael Mann’s Manhunter as inspiration for Se7en. I remember reading about this back in the day.
Seven, A movie I’ve seen (m) it over 20 times, absolutely brilliant. Even if Kevin Spacey is in it you can’t deny he’s an amazing actor playing his character.
Same here Julia
Nope Nope someone without the knowledge of 8 languages and keyboard function. But hell if it was funny, can’t have much of a life going for ya...glad I amused you with with a unknown error 🥴.
Zee Ah good luck to you.
@@juliajohansson7058 Since we do not know each other yet, I may as well preface that I am genuinely curious without judgment of any kind intended. Also, I don't recognize sarcasm well. What is the context for mentioning "knowledge of 8 languages"? In what I read as an implied comparison, who is it that knows 8 languages? Fluency in 8 would be a huge accomplishment, and even dialogue with others at a broken or basic level would impress me. Also, Julia, I wonder about the "(m)" in your main comment about the film's brilliance. Reply when you can. Thank you in advance.
The ending shook me up... even if we were never shown what was in the box.
But you are aware what was in the box right?
Mack Ballard He means that even though the actual gory details weren’t shown, it was still very disturbing.
@@siddharthraykar9476 right, I get that. I was just asking if he did know what was going on though. I've come across a few ppl online that didnt know lol
I always thought it would've be more horrific if their unborn baby was in the box rather than her head.
The "head in the box" thing reminds me of a comment Clive Barker made at the 1995 San Diego Comic Con. "A good director shows you things. A great director shows you things that aren't there."
You never see the severed head, there is however a single frame of Gwyneth Paltrow spliced in when Mills has his breakdown. It just hit me that the same thing happens in another movie directed by David Fincher that also stars Brad Pitt, that time it's not a picture of Gwyneth Paltrow though.
Nelson Mendes That's what I remember, the movie messed with my head. I truly remember seeing the head!!! Maybe Mandela effect?
Yes! It definitely is in the movie! Just before Mills shots Doe!
How could you not have that ending. Greatest ending ever
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.
One of my top 5 favorite movies. It would definitely be different with Denzel and AL in the lead roles.
I did notice that Kevin wasn't in listed on the movie which makes this plot twist more genius.
And now we know why Spacey was so good at being creepy.
Why, Squirrel?
Martin Valentin google his name and scroll down
Squirrel I guess these 2 live under a rock or in a cave and dont have tv.
Spacey. One of my fave actors. Swimming with the sharks awsone
@@Michael0409 Charges was dropped.
One of my favorite movies of all time. Masterpiece.
One of the greatest films ever made.... Unforgettable.
One of my favorite movies of all time
I was dubious after so many years of hearing all manner of trivia about this film...but you did indeed tell me several I didn't already know. So you earned your upvote.
Can anyone imagine Stallone saying “ayo what’s in the box” 😂
14:12 Number 21: that’s not Kevin Spacey. That’s a stand in
I only watched the movie once but it's the kind that haunts you forever. Perfect.
The irony of the actor that played the victim of Greed asking for more money is just priceless. XD
Damn. As a Canadian, I was across the border in Buffalo, with my G.F at the time, shopping and we went to dinner and a movie. It was this movie and it was so amazing. Still a great watch today. Oh the 90's pushed out some great movies.
Man the victim actors were spot on. The Lust victim wanted to be naked in front of her crush, the Greed victim got more money for no reason, the obese guy was… obese. That casting director was spot on
One of the only films I watched at least 5 times at the theater. There’s nothing like watching this on the big screen.
The entire film was a Nine Inch Nails video.
An edited version of Closer (Precursor) by NIN was playing during the Opening Credits of the Film.
And the Band Members of NIN, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, would then collaborate with the Director of Se7en, David Fincher, years later
"WHAT'S IN THE BOX!?! WHAT THE F*CK IS IN THE F*CKIN BOX!?!" The line will always be forever iconic
Ironic that Denzel turned it down where years later he would be in Fallen
Fun Fact: Michael Myers is not a serial killer. He's a spree killer as is Jason Vorhees. Freddie Kruger is a serial killer if we're mentioning slasher film killers.
This is an example of how to do horror the right way.
This is still one of the best movies I’ve ever seen. Love it!!!!!
Wow! Those 2nd choice characters were a perfect match for their roles.
I don’t usually watch thrillers but this one…too captivating to ignore
Pretty sure the details around Denzel are fragments. My recollection is that at one time he was set to star in it and demanded an almost entire re-write that changed the entire tone and significant events. I think Kevin or David Fincher say on the commentary the script went through around 7 incarnations before coming right back to original script. You also left out one of the most interesting details, this project was shelved for some years and it wasn’t until the success of “Silence of the Lambs” that it was given new hope of being made. Thereby crediting the dramatic increase of serial killer movies in the 90’s and beyond was more due to Silence than Se7en, but no doubt is as much a classic in cinematic history.
I remember not knowing Kevin Spacey’s name but always talking with my mom about “the villain in SE7EN being so creepy and such an awesome actor.
Also David Fincher used Nine Inch Nails' "Closer" precursor remix for the amazing opening credits.
Then they (David Fincher and NIN's mastermind Trent Reznor) will go on to make three movie together in the future.
I loved the collaboration of David Fincher, Trent Reznor, and Atticus Ross. Their first collab was working NIN's music video of Only.
Director: "We didnt have anything in the box. It was just a box."
Fans: "SAW IT MYSELF! THERES A HEAD IN THE BOX"
Director: "No literally.. we filmed an empty box."
Fans: "LIAR!!"
Not sure what's a bigger losing battle: playing one-on-one against Lebron, or arguing with David Fincher about a detail in one of his films.
I heard they cloned Gwyneth and cut her head off for real and put it in the box
Mandela effect
@@kyfarm EXACTLY!
This was such a great film. Definitely a classic
The Usual Suspect
Outbreak
Seven
What a year for Spacey
"I swear I saw it ." The reason magicians and mentalists work and why people make terrible witnesses.
This is my all time favorite movie. Only movie I went to see in theaters multiple times. Brilliant!
This movie is flawless
Another interesting fact..... When Brad Pitt slipped and fell through the rear windshield of the cab The stunt driver in the cab was no other than Kane Hodder (Jason Voorhees)
random fact, seven is the only movie bob mack, the gluttony victim, ever made
So glad they kept the original screenplay what an amazing movie....
For some reason, the first time I saw this movie I thought it was the unborn baby in the box. And this just blew my mind... never realized that Mills is the only one we see commit murder. Damn I love this movie!
WhatCulture videos seem to have become “ad central”. 5 ads in 14 minutes....but at least I have the Old Spice jingle drilled in my head.
It's funny that there is the mention of it being a Batman movie because after we saw it, a friend and I said it seemed more like the darker Batman comics that were popular in the late 1980s and 1990s.
The head totally shows up! For a frame when we see Brad Pitt coming to terms with what's in the box
Thank God for whatculture its kept me sane during the lockdown, thanks guys!!
"The Other Lust victim didn't get quite as much to do". Were they expecting her to dance around like Michigan J. Frog? "The Greed victim negotiated himself a raise". Sounds like someone really got into their role.
@qrufus, Two fun things for you: 1. "Hello, my baby, hello, my honey, hello, my rag time gal." The reference to what I applaud as a cartoon classic tickled me. What was your reaction to the "Alien" spoof of M.J. Frog in Space Balls? 2. Since you exist here in Comments for a film whose creators respect audience intellect, and since you share a name with actor Rufus Sewell, I recommend the Director's Cut (and only the Director's Cut) of "Dark City". For whatever all that is worth to you, thank you for reading my reply.
I almost walked out the theater after the "sloth" scene. Couldn't take it anymore. LOL.
I jumped, Max, when I first saw the 'sloth" scene. I still look away so I don't jump again. Did you jump, too?
That film was different than any other thriller in the victims are murders was murdered on so much violent way.
Lol, just watched this film an hour ago :D
As this film has never said where it is set theres a fan theory that its set in gotham how cool would that be
It would literally make no difference at all.
Batman where da fu*k you at?!
I mean that'd check out, considering how dark and constantly rainy it is xD
I love this theory
@@missmoanypants in the bottom of the well learning to fear Bats...
The version of the Theory I saw placed Se7en during the 'First Attack' on Gotham that Ra's cited and the Wayne's helped to fight (and which produced Joe Chill who would eventually kill them)
Only film I watched at the cinema and everyone walked out at the end buzzing and in shock
As he opens the box there is a single image of her head it's really bright but not injured
"the head in the box" misnomer is because just before Mills shoots Doe (while he is pointing the gun at him) there is a brief flash frame of his wife smiling. For some reason some people misremember this as the flash showing her head in the box. I've personally had this with two different people-one even thinking they changed it for the dvd :/
It's interesting (to me, anyway) that Stipe was considered but it went to Spacey as I can see a great similarity between the two,
Spacey's monologue at the end made my friend cry and question humankind and everything around. I definitely still feel bad about showing the movie
Great coverage thanks
He-he, seeing something you didn't. I remember my second viewing of Reservoir Dogs where I went: Hey, where did the robbery go? Wasn't it there the last time? Yup... great writing (and acting).
Rarely is a movie perfect- this is one of those times
Gotta be thee best ending of any movie, ever!!
That and, Falling Down..
I’m lost on #1. You said you can’t see Gwenyth’s head in the box? You can see the split second clip of it and if you pause it just right and go frame by frame then you can stop it just right to see her head in a box.
somerset was the master mind behind everything even the killer
No, I definitely remember seeing her head in the box.
I never noticed it untill today, but when Sommerset and Mills interview Wild Bill in his shop Mills shows a police sketch and asks: "This man?". Wild Bill then answers: "Yeah. John Doe. It's an easy name to remember. He had a limp." Is it just me or is this a hidden reference to Kevin Spaceys other character Keyzer Soze from The Usual Suspects?
I never truly appreciated the movie: it didn’t seem to me to be as great as I’d expected, although because of how everyone’s received it here, I think I’ll watch it again.
William Somerset Maugham, pronounced 'Mourn', not 'Mowam'.
I've heard it's pronounced Mamwamakikimamown.
I thought he said Maug ham..........
Hey look! It's "that" guy....
Reportedly, Andrew Kevin Waller submitted the script and a production studio script reader commented, "This guy needs help." Walker thought it meant help writing scripts, but it actually meant mental help. 😅
One of the greatest movies in cinema(in my opinion)
You commented on Se7en's role in popularizing serial-killer movies, pointing to the number of such movies made in subsequent decades but pretending the 80's never happened.
Se7en is one of the most Terrifying movies ever made. And also one of the Greatest in cinema history.
Hey it’s Kaiser Soze!!!
How I wish I could watch it for the first time again...:)
I actually knew 4-5 of things already. Great video nonetheless! Se7en is a great and worthy film. if it's not part of the national archive, it should be.
Kevin Spacey is an excellent actor.
Sad his career is over.
I already knew almost all those twenty things about SE7EN.
Kevin Costner and nick cage were also considered for the mills role at one point.
The head was in deleted scenes or behind the scenes footage on directors cut DVD. They did have Paltrow's fake head in a prop box. They explaine the reasoning for not showing it in commentary
Lelands’ performance is Epic!
When the "what's in the box scene" happened, at the time I really thought it was going to be Tracey's baby/fetus.
Saw this in the daytime at our (then) local cinema. Freaked me and my wife out. Like; wtf have we just seen?
Someone didn’t make a mistake and send the original to Fincher. They knew what they were doing
Dang I was hoping for Ash. Well I guess horror is Ash's department and Seven is a thriller innit lol 🤣
Don't they show Gwyeneth Paltrow's head for a single frame right before Brad Pitt fires? They used the same head again for Contagion during the scalping scene. I've paused the movie at the exact moment that the film show's it, David Fincher's just screwing with us, I could show you a screenshot if you'd like?
21) Kevin Spacey wasn't acting.
The greatest crime thriller of all time.
For a couple of frames you can see a bit of blonde hair ever so slightly in the darkness of the box when Somerset opens it
My favorite.along with very few others.
As if I couldn’t love this movie any more than I already did, damn
I have watched this movie once. Enjoyed it, agree that it is that good. Maybe to good. Good enough to make me not want to experience it again.
Yup, never, NEVER seen it since then when it came out......
Can you really call it good if it is something you never want to experience again?
@@gimbobjenkins405 yes I think you can.
I don't see it that way but since something like this is up to the individual perspective I can accept you see it that way even if I don't understand why.
@@gimbobjenkins405 It is that the movie did such a great job with feelings and atmosphere. That I enjoyed it and recognize that it is a great movie. Yet it did it so well that it Disturbed me enough to not want to see it again. Does that help a bit?
Still one hell of a movie.
You guys missed making Ei8ht as number 8 on the list and 4 out of these were basically the actors weren't the first choice that's just Hollywood.
Most of movies don't get their "ideal" person in their movie but sometimes it's a blessing. You just might strike gold.
And some of the original choices were not the type of actor to do justice to the script :-/
This is one of those films thats just perfect!