@13:50 Synology can "kill" anything they want, Active Backup for Business, just like they are "killing" Video Station. You buy their HARDWARE with the SOFTWARE and at ANY time they can stop supporting the software you essentially paid for - let's be honest you don't buy a Synology product for the hardware. Let's hope they don't "kill" the Synology Corporation in the process of all their other "kills". Thanks for this report.
if they do that then nobody will buy their "hardaware". As you said, we dont buy Syno for the hardware but for their Apps. Still, i dont use Only Synology so its up to them what they will do. Granted i lose some time reconfiguring my servers but lets be real, there are others who make decent NAS with nice Software. So no i dont believe their are going to change their policy since NAS and DiskStation is what defines even today Synology as a brand
Reminds me of iDrive's BMR appliances. You plug them in, they backup your local PCs, and the appliances send your data to the owners's iDrive account in the background.
If they kill ABB to force use of Active Protect, then users will be motivated to go to a new platform - which is probably not going to be Active Protect. Ask Oracle about killing off People Soft and JD Edwards. The only way to get users on the next level is to offer good value on both.
working in a big enterprise, i see clearly where they want to place the new product. and, if the price are right, they can easily. The difference between the "pro" and the professional are where to allocate the time of the day, and surely CAN'T be on diagnose a backup, or problem solving why a backup is in error, that thing must go without frequent human intervention. If the price is right, and the system is solid, it can be huge.
I have been a Synology user since 2013 and haven't liked the vibes I've been getting from them for the past year or so. I have the feeling they are moving away from home users - Video Station, Surveillance Station (dropping the codecs was unforgivable for me) and even going back to the original Synology Photos (great software). I originally thought there was no real workable alternative, however, I purchased a 4 bay Qnap unit about 6 months ago and have been running the this in tendem with my Synology unit. I did struggle at first as the OS (QTS) isn't as polished as DSM but I now feel that I can shut down my Synology for good (it will go on ebay) and make the permanent move to Qnap. There is tons of software avalable for the Qnap OS (a bit like Apple vs Windows!) It can be done with a bit of planning and patience.
Active Backup for Business has been totally useless for our business (commercial dairy farm and creamery), as their Linux agent is always several kernel versions behind, and therefore don't work on any of our machines. In fact, just about every Linux distro has more recent kernels than the ones that Synology support. As such, we use Pika Backup (a GUI front end to the well-known Borg Backup) plus a Cron job. We feel that this solution is far better than anything that Synology has produced for those of us whose businesses are based on Linux machines. I have little faith that their new product will be any better for the Linux world.
If the software works well, I'm the target market: small business but doesn't have any time to manage hardware and optimize it. I need something that simply works out of the box.
@@MarcHershey What I meant is that I'm not interested in having full control over the hardware so that I can optimize the type of drive(s), partitions, RAID scheme, etc. I just want an appliance that backs up data and leaves those finer details to someone else.
@@mjjf8297 Yup, Anything is better than this proprietary crap from Synology, when these companies will ever learn that people hate the word proprietary.
If I decide at some point to no longer use Synology products, I will get or build the hardware and run TrueNAS Scale on it. The biggest challenge will be finding a good replacement for Surveillance Station.
Maybe Synology wants to take the same path as some printer manufacturers did, when they realized: it might be an option to not sell ink as one-time purchase but as subscription?! Why not rent the hardware as backup-subscription? When a disk is about to fail, Synology's telemetry will know and send you a replacement disk right away.
I worry where Synology is going with their ideas. Not really a fan of where this is all heading. Perhaps they are no longer consumer or prosumer focused.
Everything is proprietary? I guess I'm going to look harder at FreeNAS for my next NAS. I really don't like the direction Synology is going. The hardware is both pricey and disappointing every new release. And now they're going to make it even more expensive by making the drives proprietary. Do not want.
@Sp3cTech i own a farm and took a day off G. turned on my TV at 8am thats def "all day" on the internet ur soooo right. seethe more about randoms on the internet. loser ass.
@13:50 Synology can "kill" anything they want, Active Backup for Business, just like they are "killing" Video Station. You buy their HARDWARE with the SOFTWARE and at ANY time they can stop supporting the software you essentially paid for - let's be honest you don't buy a Synology product for the hardware.
Let's hope they don't "kill" the Synology Corporation in the process of all their other "kills".
Thanks for this report.
if they do that then nobody will buy their "hardaware". As you said, we dont buy Syno for the hardware but for their Apps. Still, i dont use Only Synology so its up to them what they will do. Granted i lose some time reconfiguring my servers but lets be real, there are others who make decent NAS with nice Software. So no i dont believe their are going to change their policy since NAS and DiskStation is what defines even today Synology as a brand
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ahh so thats why Unifi gave us the Unas Pro! Excellent!!!
A lot of companies figured out that cloud services are kind of expensive and start to have the services on their own servers instead.
I think this is the market they are trying to capture
When in doubt always error on the side of enshitification. Because, “You will own nothing and you will like it”
Reminds me of iDrive's BMR appliances. You plug them in, they backup your local PCs, and the appliances send your data to the owners's iDrive account in the background.
If they kill ABB to force use of Active Protect, then users will be motivated to go to a new platform - which is probably not going to be Active Protect. Ask Oracle about killing off People Soft and JD Edwards. The only way to get users on the next level is to offer good value on both.
working in a big enterprise, i see clearly where they want to place the new product. and, if the price are right, they can easily. The difference between the "pro" and the professional are where to allocate the time of the day, and surely CAN'T be on diagnose a backup, or problem solving why a backup is in error, that thing must go without frequent human intervention. If the price is right, and the system is solid, it can be huge.
wait, what? what about their existing scalable, enterprise solutions they already have? Why can you not use your existing appliances?
So they dont have any cluster options, once you max out a single ABB target, you can't expand without setting up a new ABB server
All this Synology is doing last couple years seems like end of Synology. My next NAS will not be Synology, and I did like them…
I have been a Synology user since 2013 and haven't liked the vibes I've been getting from them for the past year or so. I have the feeling they are moving away from home users - Video Station, Surveillance Station (dropping the codecs was unforgivable for me) and even going back to the original Synology Photos (great software). I originally thought there was no real workable alternative, however, I purchased a 4 bay Qnap unit about 6 months ago and have been running the this in tendem with my Synology unit. I did struggle at first as the OS (QTS) isn't as polished as DSM but I now feel that I can shut down my Synology for good (it will go on ebay) and make the permanent move to Qnap. There is tons of software avalable for the Qnap OS (a bit like Apple vs Windows!) It can be done with a bit of planning and patience.
Active Backup for Business has been totally useless for our business (commercial dairy farm and creamery), as their Linux agent is always several kernel versions behind, and therefore don't work on any of our machines. In fact, just about every Linux distro has more recent kernels than the ones that Synology support. As such, we use Pika Backup (a GUI front end to the well-known Borg Backup) plus a Cron job. We feel that this solution is far better than anything that Synology has produced for those of us whose businesses are based on Linux machines. I have little faith that their new product will be any better for the Linux world.
Ill pass anytime im forced to their rules. Did they hire someone from Apple ?
If the software works well, I'm the target market: small business but doesn't have any time to manage hardware and optimize it. I need something that simply works out of the box.
Every other nas works out of the box… pop in two drives, create volume and boom. Same with these.
@@MarcHershey What I meant is that I'm not interested in having full control over the hardware so that I can optimize the type of drive(s), partitions, RAID scheme, etc. I just want an appliance that backs up data and leaves those finer details to someone else.
That new policy is the end of Synology?
What happens when a drive fails? You gotta buy another unit??
Probably another expensive proprietary crap that no one needs, just use the New Unify Nas for that.
Or even better just buy truenas
@@mjjf8297 Yup, Anything is better than this proprietary crap from Synology, when these companies will ever learn that people hate the word proprietary.
Dsm can forbid it to happen, just like the syn hdd evil practice.
Hex NAS FTW!
If I decide at some point to no longer use Synology products, I will get or build the hardware and run TrueNAS Scale on it. The biggest challenge will be finding a good replacement for Surveillance Station.
soon with the 32TB seagates, even just a 4bay unit will cap out the 108TB volume limit
Maybe Synology wants to take the same path as some printer manufacturers did, when they realized: it might be an option to not sell ink as one-time purchase but as subscription?!
Why not rent the hardware as backup-subscription? When a disk is about to fail, Synology's telemetry will know and send you a replacement disk right away.
I worry where Synology is going with their ideas. Not really a fan of where this is all heading. Perhaps they are no longer consumer or prosumer focused.
they better not kill it. i use it at home
I already switched to UNAS Pro. No more synology in my house
House is something different than office or business
yeah... but what about the software?????????
Can you download stuff on it ? or play content on your tvs ? or have photo library on it ? Unas is useless for me.
Keep the control in your home - install your own nas linux software if required
Dont go with big brother surveillance
If I was starting a business, this is exactly what I would want. Plug, play, and safe. Daily snapshot, and a big middle finger to hackers, fires, etc
How much is Synology paying you? 😂 clown ass comment
Sounds like they’re basically selling an appliance. Wonder if it will support a 3-2-1 strategy. Not likely. I’ll pass anyway. 🤔
this is more for NOOBS and not for enterprise
Everything is proprietary?
I guess I'm going to look harder at FreeNAS for my next NAS. I really don't like the direction Synology is going. The hardware is both pricey and disappointing every new release. And now they're going to make it even more expensive by making the drives proprietary. Do not want.
Synology don’t know anything about enterprise IT. I’d laugh them out of my shop. Their gear is absolute garbage.
Active Protect is something that we don't care! Where's the NEW DS units??????????????
On the trash heap of history, apparently
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul Synology have now a lot of competition, they should release something great or more people will move to other brands.
You caano to do this , you cannot to do that. I liked the company long time ago. Now , not so much . Bought 224+ month ago had cash for 923+ .
Oh …so it’s garbage? Got it. Synology being synology
Lol Synology really. What a silly stupid product, Not even HPE or Dell EMC would release something like this.
Stick to what you know best Synology
Businesses do not care because it is their customers (us) who pay for this.
goodbye synology
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Synology is taking lessons from Apple apparently. I hope it works for them as “well” as it has for Apple.
Apple is doing great.
@RogierYou I know. That was sarcasm. Guess I shouldn't have put quotes around the word well. Trust me-- I am a big apple fan.
FIRST
Thanks for that enlightening contribution to the conversation.
@Sp3cTech i own a farm and took a day off G. turned on my TV at 8am thats def "all day" on the internet ur soooo right. seethe more about randoms on the internet. loser ass.
The lowest of low effort posts. The 2nd is when you mimic something said, the put a "lol" after it
@@CaptainRon1913 LOL