The Greenbriar Ghost Murder | That Chapter Podcast
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“A spider realtor” -Keith
Lmao 🤣
I get the feeling that Zona's ghost didn't actually visit her mother, rather, her mother was a shrewd woman and knew what she had to do to get her daughter's death treated as a murder after the shady behavior of her son in law, perhaps, also, after catching a glimpse of bruises on the neck of her daughter's corpse, and she told a whopper of a lie to ensure that an investigation got done. Amazing woman, keeping her cool at trying, facing her daughter's killer down with dauntless calm.
Or her highly intelligent brain put all the clues together and the info came as a dream.
Either way, she took the law by the shoulders and forced them to listen and get justice for her daughter, saving future victims the same fate
Mom of the century!
Also, if you are a reader and familiar with Gavin de Becker's "Gift of Fear"- you'd be aware that sometimes the subconscious is in alert mode and processing things that the "conscious" mind isn't fully aware of, unless you do some deep introspection. Maybe her mother saw all these signs at the funeral, read the paper, and the ghost was really her subconscious piecing everything together.
A mother will always do what it takes for their children
@@user-pj5by8lx2mmy ex proves this statement to be false.
What if her mother got into an argument with her, and things took a dark turn. What if she saw it as an opportunity to get revenge on her son-in-law by spinning a tale that she knew he would not be able to disprove?
When Keith said he had a new hobby I was hoping he'd say Witchfinder General.
If you want to be a spider realtor Keith you do it, don't let your dreams be dreams!
I absolutely love Keith's new position as a "spider realtor." 😅
This channel is so underrated and proves our lad does it for the love of the game. Very inspiring youtuber
Relocate the spiders!! Keith is a genius 🤯
Keith going the extra mile on research finding the article from the 1800’s from a nearby town she might have read
I'm pretty sure Keith's spider and moth story is how R. M. Renfield started out in the Dracula book.
Yaaaaay!! It's the Mike & Keith spooky banter pod to the rescue! I don't know enough of the right words to express just how much I love & rely on this podcast to get me through, but it's a lot! Thank you both so much!
Big, big loves to all! 😁🥰🖤
Whether the mom did or didn't read the story doesn't matter. They dug up the body and evidence proved out the claim. The "visitation" was not used in the case by the prosecutor? Still it was clear the "visitation" claim was real. CRAZY!
Thanks Mike and Keith! The banter of years of friendship is entertaining. ❤
People used to come to your house, and they would fill out the census information for you. When I worked at the local library, I had to transcribe census info from microfilm, and it would be the same handwriting for pages and pages.
Keith “Re-homing” the spiders is Genius!!! 😂😂
YAYAYAY! It’s time for Keith and Mike! 🎉
Love y’all both so much, here in Alabama ❤
I'm here in Bama too! ❤
@@Kelley_cant_Get_Right ahh hey girl hey!!! 👋🏼 Mike and Keith made it all the way down south to us 😂😜
My father used to rehome spiders into the guest room.
The problem is, that was where I slept whenever I'd visit him. They would march across the ceiling, fight each other and where they would fall during the struggle could be anywhere. ANYWHERE. You can't sleep while waiting for that; all sorts of things go through a young mind.
Because of this I've had a lifelong terror of spiders. Mom said that prior to this I had no problem with them -- I'd even play with them in the woods. I'd give anything to be that free again but the damage is done.
Keith, if you have kids, for the love of all that is holy -- take the spiders outside please and buy some window screens FFS. I don't understand what Europe has got against window screens.
As a tarantula/spider mom it's great to hear your keeping our native spiders in your home to get rid of the moths/flys Keith. Cellar spiders (the ones with long legs and skinny body's) will be great at this . If you can find them orb weavers are great for this too although they need to go in your garden.
Also the less you cut the grass the more spiders you will get . Gl on keeping those moths down, wish more people would go the natural spider route like you!
Spiders scare me, but I share my space with them for the mosquito problem. Rain Spiders are ideal. They are just huge. And they bungee jump 😳. Pretty scary when you are relaxing on the couch, watching him walk across the ceiling. UNTIL he decides on a speedy decent about 5 ft away. First time that happened, I nearly broke my neck flying across the room 😂
I wouldn't worry about them they don't want to hurt you to them your just a land mass that moves lol 😊 they probably get just as spooked when you jump as you do when they jump 😉
@charliemum I had one resident that used to enjoy terrifying me. I once put my hand in the cupboard to take out a coffee cup - he came sneaking round the next cup. Nearly pooed meself. He was the bungee jumper as well. We had several encounters. Interesting thing is they don't spin webs. They spin nests in the trees. With thousands of babies in them 😳😢😳
@@mandyD I know this spider palystes supercilious they get big but are unlikely to bite unless squashed and are harmless to humans 😊 they will definitely keep insects and small lizards out of your home though, probably other spiders too .
Trout's life goal was to marry seven times? I wonder if he intended for all of his wives to meet the same fate.
how Bluebeard of him
Great ghost story and nice to have the spider relocator back!
I look forward to your videos on both channels every week! You're the only true crime content i consume anymore.
I too am a spider realtor, solving my fruit fly problems organically! Glad I’m not alone 😂
Yessssss!! I couldn't sleep. Thanks for the entertainment as always. Gonna give it a goo.
riiiiiiiiippppppp "SEE?!?" I'm still laughing about that one hahahaha.
As for the census, it's only been recently in the US that the census was done by mail or filing something out. Traditionally the census was conducted by official census takers who would ask citizens questions and write down their answers. So she didn't need to read and write to SAY she could read and write.
Getting ready for work so thank you guys! We do love a Keith episode! 💖
Keith is an honorary Australian.
Yeah with the whole spider and moth thing, you mean?
He'll yeah!!! ❤ from Australia
1:48 I’ve been rehoming snails and slugs to my neighbour’s hosta 😂
Yes!! My favourite guys! Love ya xo
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That's the one I had heard the last one you spoke of Mike. With the possession. I found it so interesting because it wasn't really that long ago compared to cases like this.
❤😂 Yeeesss!! Love 💖 Ya Mike and Spider Realtor Keith..,🤣🤣☕ Let's GOOOOOOO🎉
🎉🎉 Thanx…perfect timing for me! 🤗
Glad Keith's back. He was missed
And I'm catching the podcast right after posting too! I live on the West Coast of Canada and I work nights, so my schedule is *weird* compared to Mike and Keith's. 🤣
Oh, and yes, I have tonight off work. I'm not calling in sick for Mike and Keith. But I'm not saying I wouldn't, either.
I'm the same in California. Love the podcast on the lonely drive to work at 2am.
Chillin in Utah with some Gorlla Glue#4. This should be fun. Cheers.
It's almost 1:00 AM and my phone dings and there My Mike and Super Keith . He'll Yeah.😊😊
Omg did I really catch them in the first hour!! 😍😍
Mike and Keith - hooray!
Thanks to this woman, the police took the job much more seriously and were able to come to a conclusion. She may have even inspired new police technique. Ive had weird stuff happen to me that i cant explain, or i know sounds crazy. Maybe her daughter visited her, maybe not...We receive messages in different ways 🙏🏻💓
I always love hearing stories about my home state ... God knows there's plenty , lol
Tuning in from New Hampshire, crocheting granny square blankets while trying to stay cool due to the massive heatwave. Love you guys! ❤😊
Why did my mind immediately think of trouty mouth from Glee? 😂 keep up the awesome work Mike and Keith! I look forward to the podcast and UA-cam video every week ❤
I can't believe one of Keith's stories was from my hometown, Campbelltown !
We have an annual festival called Fisher's Ghost Festival in the ghosts honour. Growing up they also had a mini musical festival called Fisher's Gig, I first saw the band Parkway Drive do a show there back somewhere between 2003-2005.
I’m kind of glad you brought this up kitty cat. I have had multiple “pet” spiders I just keep naming Steven for the same reason. Daddy long legs only, they kept all the bugs and creepy spiders away
Keith, spiders like darkness. There are probably tons in the attic.
5:19 I think the spider method is a great idea👍🏾😁
Moths don't have nests, & the easiest way to know, is by asking if the insect is a social insect, like ants, wasps, termites, bees, etc. That said, the moth called Spongy Moth, which are often called Tent Catapillers here in NY, because as caterpillars, they congregate in groups & build a "tent" in the crook of a tree. They are bad for trees & in NY & other states are considered an invasive species. The moths at Kieth's, are probably attracted to the light, warms, or a thing they like to eat, clothing, or cardboard, or foods like rice or breads.
Lifetime world subscription?! That’s $50 a month baby! I’m doing some research tonight!
I took up gardening a few years ago & was surprised to find that most of the caterpillar type things that munch on my plants are the larva stage of moths. Cabbage worms come from Cabbage White moths; tobacco & tomato hornworms come from the sphinx or hawk moth (and they could have been designed by the special effects department making a horror move); and owlet moths produce cutworms or armyworms.
Embalming has been around since forever Keith...😂😂 It definitely wasn't a new process. 😊
It was a new process for that area etc as whilst around for centuries it was rarely if ever practiced in that area of the world and mostly unknown to the common people
Thanks Mike & Keith ❤
Just pointing out if zonas mother made up the story of the ghost just to get the case re opened etc. then how did she know all of the injuries her daughter suffered I mean she could've deduced about the broken neck but to also know about her crushed windpipe just seems like an unlikely guess since the Dr didn't even have a clue...
Perhaps she’d known of prior incidents of him using that same method on her
I’m with Keith, I love spiders. I keep all of my house spiders so they will kill off any other bugs that might be lurking about.
Moths terrify me. Spiders I can live with - so long as they know to keep out of sight. I always had a resident rainspider in the last village I lived in. Not so many here right on the coast.
Can you please do an episode all about the slave woman Tituba who played a huge part in the Salem with trials? I wrote a research paper on her role is incredibly fascinating.
Keith: next step is to start catching the snacks and bringing them to the spiders and raising the spiders as pets
Kieth you just need window screens not 🕷️ spoders !
From what I understand window screens aren’t common like they are in the US. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I have heard only this don’t know 1st hand. Besides I am scared of spiders 🕷️ 😱
@@franbrooks605 There for sure has to be some logical reason he opted for spider 🕸️🕷️ realtor rather than window screens. They're definitely everywhere here in the U.S. thankfully !
Yay! Thank you both 💚🧡💛❤️
Perfect timing with that "I can Trump you" joke Mike.
Holy hell, the man pressed to death during the witch trials refused to admit that his wife was a witch (killed during the witch trials). His name was Giles Corey and he is related to me. This idea was also substantiated by the eating of mouldy bread which included Urgott which is a terrible hallucinatory and poisonous mold. This allowed a lot of the witch trials to go forward as it included struggle, starvation, strife, the fear of the unknown and mild hallucinations along with extreme paranoia.
Yes Keith and Mike ❤❤❤❤
Great idea Keith! 🕷️
Keith, you need booklice for moths. Those critters munch through the moth larvae like they're the best candy & they're soon gone any moths. Then use a dehumidifier or heat fans to eradicate any other insects. Beware spraying more moisture because you'll attract more mould & more moths and insects that feed on the mould in crevices and on areas unseen. Always use heat never wet sprays. I learned these things through years of battling. Leave that ouija board alone .. it may have invited the moths 😳
My daughters birthday is the end of this month , and she will be decorating for Halloween that weekend . Today she wore bat earrings 🧡🖤 I also have a moth and spider problem at the moment, so your not alone, Keith . Thanks to both of you! ✌️🧡🌞from Montana
Soon as you mentioned Campbeltown and 1800s I went straight to Fischer's ghost as it's famous here and it's celebrated
We move eight legs a week!
Spider realtor. I've feckin' hear everything now lmao
Luv ur accents
Especially the Cuss words
Much 💜 fr New Mexico
You guys are my absolute favorite people!! 😂❤
You both are so fun
The mothness monster
My parents live in Campbeltown NSW and the Fishers Ghost is MASSIVE. My Dad used to help organise the Fishers Ghost Run and I (to my everlasting embarrassment) was a finalist in the “Miss Fishers Ghost” competition in 1989! REALLY FUCKING EMBARRASSING!
Hey you youre welcome. Love you guys
podcast, podcast, tra la la la la!
Do they not have Zevo (or Zevo-like) plug-in flying insect traps in Ireland? Not shilling for them, there's other brands that probably work just as well, but ZERO flies or other flying bugs in the house since we started using them. Just two for a 3 bedroom 2 bath house. But then, you guys don't tend to have window screens in Europe, do you? Just that alone would cut down on flies in the house.
Also, Keith, if your smoke detector is beeping it's time to change the battery.
❤ YOU BOTH! Your friend from Washington State 😃🦀🌲
So back in those days the Census takers went around house to house. It wasn’t a mail in form like it is now. She could have lied. But the Census form wouldn’t prove anything because it was a 3rd party filling in the form. I enjoy how Keith is so educated in Ancestry! I mean the news of the world wasn’t that easy to get, so there’s that. I think she was just a smart woman who had that guy figured out and of course a mother’s intuition.
Hi Mike and Keith!!
Spider realtor 😂😂 you need a nomadic arachnid like our huntsman in Australia. They'll do the hunting of bugs for you. As long as you don't mind sharing your home with them.
I’ve currently got a huntsman in my room. I guess they cut out the middle man of needing the realtor. 😂😂
@@77elleinad73 great way to eliminate double handling and cut costs. 😆
@@LuckySpinster. 😂 Keith won’t know what to do with all this extra time he has on his hands with a huntsman about 😂
I could listen to you guys just chatting about random shit like you do at the start for an entire podcast! Keep up the good work guys. PS..I'm very excited about your Halloween special 🎃👻
A Moth nest??? Someone didn't pay attention in school!
Ooooooo..... I remember an infestation of Moths one year. They were Everywhere!!! Cacoons could be found years later on cielings of out door buildings like bus stops and such. It was insane. Then there were the Snails!!!!! Ahhhhhhh!!!! Gainesville Florida by the way, dont start Mike!!!
Whoop whoop
Keith, if you are getting moths again and again, check your furniture for eggs. It happened to my mom's boss, and they found eggs in her sofa.
🤣🤣🤣🤣it’s a Keith episode . Oh Mikey we love you 🎉❤ you’re the GOAT right?
I wish I could send you a picture of the spiders here.. Tarantulas aren’t the biggest crawlers here.. relocating is a herding event more like a suggestion to GET OUT 😂
Mike and Keith listening to psychsocial by slipknot was NOT on my bingo card today lol
FRAAAAANCE.
Brilliant!!! Keith, absolutely BRILLIANT, I have been rehoming spiders since the 80s. Follow the food, ESPECIALLY MOTHS. I too, detest moths. I shit u not, I had 1 fly directly into my eye, reflexively my eyes closed, and (trapped the FUCKER in there for a sec) opened them n the nasty prick flew out. Horrific. What the he'll? Ur mouth, my eye, spider's belly.
Y'all are the best. Thanks for the hard work, and incredible content.
Joey Chestnut used to go to my favorite dive bar (Boswell's in Campbell Ca) and he asked me out several times. I would have said yes but I was already dating someone (my now husband) lol.
16:37 🤣🤣🤣🤣
#SeemsLegit
Love these podcasts! Cheers boys 🇮🇪
Keith you could set a fly trap, bit of honey, apple cider vinegar, dish washing liquid and water. Just use a soda bottle or something that will hold the solution. There are plenty of diy indoor solutions online. But I like “spider realtor” !
The last story Mike told was actually in a Chicago newspaper when it happened. I remember reading about it. It turns up ever once in a while in reprint.
Yay! TC, now with 💯 more Keith! Welcome back! Don’t leave me again buddy or you’ll have to start your own podcast. Also, does Ireland not have window screens? No spider required.
Hmm yes because spiders only ever enter through the windows and doors lol
Salem is interesting, but my connection to it is far more indirect. I'm Canadian with only a tangential family history connection to the U.S., but I'm related somehow to a famous British "witch" known as Old Mother Shipton (nee Ursula Southeil, various spellings of the surname)... she's best known for a long prophetic poem that it turns out was mostly not composed by her and was written much later.
9:27 Story starts
I fuckin love Keith! I too rehome spiders! I love them an thry keep roaches, ants, exc. out of my house. Moths start out as worms/caterpillars (I call them knight butterflies) They love humans because we create the perfect environment for them to be away from the rain and sunlight and they love to chew on certain materials which will include cotton, silk exc. Hence why you find them in your closet! They as a young caterpillar/worm species will consume your fabrics to have enough strength to become a moth! The more you know 💖
Wait until they have 1000 baby spiders
So can he not get window screens to keep bugs out?
That bass, trout whatever character's guilt is a bit fishy ...
What if the mom killed the daughter and Trout realized her neck was broken upon touching her, so he hid it for fear he would get blamed, the only person who knew her neck was snapped was the mother!
The mom reportedly hadn’t seen the daughter in years.
Neither of you appreciated "It's a fish!!" enough. Tip of the hat to you good sir.
Trout was a Predator! Predator's have the same MO today. They can tell your vulnerable and they seperate you from freinds and family.