I don't blame you at all for doing this video, really nice machine and setup. I watched it more to see your install of it all onto the workbench. However as you probably know, most DIYers won't be able to justify spending £800+ on the router+ plate. On another note, i have seen people use a 'router starter pin' that screws into the mounting plate to give you 2 points of contact for any timber you are sliding along it (the pin and the bearing on your cutter), certainly makes it safer until you have a fence in place
Your videos are so good. You show such detail and everything you say is clear and informative. Also the way way you film I can see everything your explaining. You are definitely at the top of my to watch list. 👍
Nice bit of kit, but just bought a Triton TRA001 to fit in my Table 😁. When routing out for an insert plate like that, I find it useful to stick a small off cut of Ply of the same thickness of the template to the router opposite to the template, which prevents the router tipping over 😁
Excellent video thank you again! Older trend routers are being sold at a very reasonable price , Same method of fitting the router plate could be used if you are a DIY person looking for low cost solution.
The Triton TRA001 router is a much cheaper alternative (£270 for those who have to buy their own routers) to the Trend and is designed for dual mode ie as a plunge router and as a bench mounted router (with height adjustment winder from above the table). One of the things I liked about your channel was that you did things cost effectively (ie cheap). I hope you do not lose that aspect of the channel
I'm not exactly rich, but £500 for a router table powerhouse like the T14 is acceptable. Would rather buy the expensive option once, than but cheap and buy twice. But then I'm renovating a 3-bed home, with full refurnishing, so am a bit more than a light DIY'er.
The trend system whilst very good is also very very expensive, if you wanted a dedicated table router system with router lift then a separate motor and raising plate from somewhere like Rutland tools would be cheaper.
I think using the narrow end of the bench you've actually made it easier for yourself to add a fence and dust extraction. Also you still have the option of using the front of the workbench for wider opjects if needed. Looking good. I would never be able to afford the Trend T14 in the current climate, but I am interested in the insert plate. Look forward to seeing you do more routering, who knows it might improve the strength of your wifi :-D
S, I made the same bench as you and have been waiting for this very video since - thank you for taking the time to make the vid and as usual detailed info. Looking forward to your forthcoming vids re the fence. Cheers.
Having had a router table for a while, for dust extraction you will find that making a box or a sealed chamber for the router to be in is essential. When routing a channel in a piece of wood, the extraction on a fence is useless, as the workpiece will completely cover the router bit. Extraction is needed from under the table. Also a pin in the plate should be used when edge profiling like you did at the end of this video for the work piece to run against. Funny you should mention losing fingers as I did lose the end of one of mine in the router table, after the workpiece kicked back suddenly.
It's all well and good to have a remote NVR switch to mount at the front of the workbench, but it would also be really useful to have a speed control knob brough out to the same place. The router's speed control is a real PITA to get to if you have an underbench box with dust extraction. Mine just sits at a happy compromise speed which is spot on (every now and then.)
I've long been a fan of trend for router units having owned a T10 for some years now and still trying to justify the T11 and router table to the one who wants all the jobs done (the wife) this is looking like I need to rethink my work bench plans. I am currently working on a positive airflow extraction system I'll let you know if it works
nice machine no doubt it will serve you for many years .i went with the Triton 1/2" myself ,2 reasons price and super fast bit change on the Triton i was hoping you would show that in video. can you raise bit enough to change it out above table .great channel
It does look like a very good setup, in your next vid you do could you drop in that one of your long time subs needs the same setup like yours it would be most appreciated many thanks in advance and i look forward to hearing from you in the near future.
It really grinds my pickle when the same company that I've been trying to get to replace my faulty tools from, that refuses me and messes me about until my guarantee expires, can just send these youtubers totally free goods just for exposure! I've spent more than i care to think about on Trend tools over the years and they can't sort my issues out but can straight up send totally free of charge tools to these guys. Shouldn't the people that pay out of there own pocket be priority for them? Obviously not🤦🏻♂️. Done with Trend as a company
@@rndmcnflct who said they were faulty when i purchased them? Don't you think I'd have returned them for a replacement or refund if they were faulty when initially purchased? Clever bo11ocks 🥴
@freshpootubeThanks for voicing your concern. Could be a valuable resource of information for me. No offence 😅 but how valid would your statement be when you have stayed away from them? Personnel is changing over time. Company policies change over time. Market situation and competition has indeed changed over the past decade (web shopping/competition/UA-camrs). Recent experience is valuable. Old, not really. I am looking to buy a router in this performance range. Therefore it would be very nice of you if you could help me out here. No lengthy explanation needed. Just a hint if your posting is an old personal opinion or recent fact based cases. If the latter, pls be so kind and quote the sources of information for me to study. This router really interests me. Would be sad to waste money on a company lacking an understanding about customer care and reputation. Kind regards Anders Sweden Retired (with a major wood working project coming up) 😉
Your base is a bit anemic for the weight I fear but with some beefing up should be fine. I have a 1 1/2 inch thick router base on my Woodsmith router table and it works fine with my 3 HP Porter Cable router. Gotta admit I love it and it has worked well for me over the years.
I don't think there is a better model than the TRA001 - at least not at that kind of price point (no doubt if you spend thousands on an industrial scale one it would be better). I'm not sure if the Trend router does this too, but the TRA having the auto collet lock when extended fully so you can change the bit with a single spanner from above the table is a game changer.
A good video and definitely food for thought. Does the height adjustment system just push against the plunge springs on the router? In which case it will work with virtually any plunge router. I can afford the plate, but I'm not in the market for a new router right now... I realise I am going to have to drill the plate for my router. Thanks
Nice little feebee you got there. but nobody in there right mind would buy that. For less than that you can get an Incra lift and a dedicated motor which is the dogs bollocks of this type of table router system.
I am slowly building my ideal workbench, I have two kreg benches fitted side by side giving me a 1.6m X 1 m workbench frame. Ideally I want to fit a router and table saw into the workbench top. This router would be/is ideal, perfect specs plus dedicated cut-off switch. I will save up my pennies. Here is an idea that perfectly fits your advertising goals. Go to a guy like me trying to finish his first workbench and help him complete it with TREND products. .
Hi I have subscribed to your channel and pleased with all the videos I have watched up to now. I have even ordered a laser level after watching your video on it. I also watched the video on the router table plate and thought this would be a good project to do as i need one, I then looked at the price of the Trend router that you managed to get for free. I do think that over £853 is not what I would call a reasonable price to pay for an average DIY person. If however you get an offer of another one for free, please let me know. Regrds. Russ.
I have the T8 router on mine but have had difficulty using the lift mechanism when rising the router up. I've only discovered that removing the plunge springs may be the best option. I couldn't find any guidance on this within the manual. Is this something you've done on your router to make setting the bit height from above easier?
Hi, great video I got my T14 from Folkestone fittings much cheaper than any where else. Just got the insert plate myself. What size cutter did you use.
Looks a great bit of kit, and I'm regretting buying the Trend 1/2 router I bought last year (and haven't used in anger), as well as the Lumberjack benchtop router table. ah well. Great video as always, keep up the great work.
Hi Stuart, nothing like having a new 'toy' in the workshop, I assume this is a English band? Will you be fixing a dust collection system to the bench, take care and keep safe, best regards from Australia.
Just purchased a T14.... How does it fit in the case ?.... mine looked like it had been shoved in.... sealed box .... Awful case too .... Disappointing... Some of the attachments seem cheaply manufactured compared to my other routers.... T14 seems well made though...... I hope!
Nice router I heard you had one. Insert looks good to. I have the T11 and DeWalt 625 which are basically the same units and previously models to yours. They are great. Just curious to know how you are going to put an adjustable fence on your table to allow dado grooves to be cut?
Boy oh boy. You are far too relaxed doing that bit of routing. I love the part where you slapped your hands down. Dont get into a habbit doing that! Get a fence etc onto that thing before you have an accident.
I really don’t think that ply is a good choice for a router table. Perfectly flat insert plate at great expense placed into a material which, if flat in the first place, is unlikley to remain so. Better to buy the trend router pro table. Get a cheaper 1/12 and leave it in there. That router is damn heavy for non table use. Really only needed for routing worktops. Most diyers should go for something lighter. That router does not sound right by the way.
I don't blame you at all for doing this video, really nice machine and setup. I watched it more to see your install of it all onto the workbench. However as you probably know, most DIYers won't be able to justify spending £800+ on the router+ plate.
On another note, i have seen people use a 'router starter pin' that screws into the mounting plate to give you 2 points of contact for any timber you are sliding along it (the pin and the bearing on your cutter), certainly makes it safer until you have a fence in place
Thank you. Loved how clearly you explained all the steps. Had a T11 for years and need to get as sorted as this video details.
Your videos are so good. You show such detail and everything you say is clear and informative. Also the way way you film I can see everything your explaining.
You are definitely at the top of my to watch list. 👍
Really appreciate your skill at operating a camera, people don't appreciate how much effort goes into framing shots well
Thank you. Like anything it takes a lot more time and effort than people think
Nice bit of kit, but just bought a Triton TRA001 to fit in my Table 😁.
When routing out for an insert plate like that, I find it useful to stick a small off cut of Ply of the same thickness of the template to the router opposite to the template, which prevents the router tipping over 😁
Have the same router - nice bit of kit
Good idea
Excellent video as usual. Just one small point, it's best to rout the end grain first and then do the long grain to mitigate any chip out.
Looks like a nice set up and very nice of Trend to help you out.
It was generous of them for sure
What you need is a router lift i got one on Banggood for 240 euro. Handy when your changing router bit's all the time.
speaking from personal experience.....they're definitely one of the best tools ever for instantly
removing bits of fingers or hands
Oh. That doesn't sound good
I’ve been looking for a decent video on router tables all morning- then this gem pops up!
Good timing!
Excellent video thank you again! Older trend routers are being sold at a very reasonable price , Same method of fitting the router plate could be used if you are a DIY person looking for low cost solution.
Where?
@@bigbadstig look on the eBay
A Router is one of my favourite tools and this looks like a great solution for those pieces you just can't do any other way 👍
The Triton TRA001 router is a much cheaper alternative (£270 for those who have to buy their own routers) to the Trend and is designed for dual mode ie as a plunge router and as a bench mounted router (with height adjustment winder from above the table). One of the things I liked about your channel was that you did things cost effectively (ie cheap). I hope you do not lose that aspect of the channel
I think he was gifted the T14 and plate?
Hardly a prospect for most DIYers. Trend are dishing them out left right and centre. Yes, I an jealous.
Oh calm down, good for him getting free tools given all the free content he provides for us!
I'm not exactly rich, but £500 for a router table powerhouse like the T14 is acceptable. Would rather buy the expensive option once, than but cheap and buy twice. But then I'm renovating a 3-bed home, with full refurnishing, so am a bit more than a light DIY'er.
I made one to but the dust went into the blade hole and set on fire so i had to make a dust collection cowle , it works a treat.
The trend system whilst very good is also very very expensive, if you wanted a dedicated table router system with router lift then a separate motor and raising plate from somewhere like Rutland tools would be cheaper.
I think using the narrow end of the bench you've actually made it easier for yourself to add a fence and dust extraction. Also you still have the option of using the front of the workbench for wider opjects if needed. Looking good. I would never be able to afford the Trend T14 in the current climate, but I am interested in the insert plate. Look forward to seeing you do more routering, who knows it might improve the strength of your wifi :-D
Yes exactly - it felt better at the end of the bench. I see what you did there with the router!
I've got a Silverline ½" router (£96) in a table with a Charnwood W026 NVR Safety Switch (£35) and a scissor jack (£5 from scrapyard) for lifting it
Scissor Jack... I use one to
I've the silverline 1/2 router, what a beast for under 100... I couldn't justify paying 750 for a router
@@jigsey. I don't know why trend cost 2x makita or dewalt same performance routers
@@michalwisniewski8033 yep it's an extraordinary markup
Hi, good video, but one thing you didnt cover, is, can you wind it all the way up to change the bit?
S, I made the same bench as you and have been waiting for this very video since - thank you for taking the time to make the vid and as usual detailed info. Looking forward to your forthcoming vids re the fence. Cheers.
My pleasure!
Fantastic camera work on this video Stuart!
Thank you Pamela! It does take some time to create for sure
Having had a router table for a while, for dust extraction you will find that making a box or a sealed chamber for the router to be in is essential. When routing a channel in a piece of wood, the extraction on a fence is useless, as the workpiece will completely cover the router bit. Extraction is needed from under the table. Also a pin in the plate should be used when edge profiling like you did at the end of this video for the work piece to run against. Funny you should mention losing fingers as I did lose the end of one of mine in the router table, after the workpiece kicked back suddenly.
Good points. Sorry about your finger
It's all well and good to have a remote NVR switch to mount at the front of the workbench, but it would also be really useful to have a speed control knob brough out to the same place. The router's speed control is a real PITA to get to if you have an underbench box with dust extraction.
Mine just sits at a happy compromise speed which is spot on (every now and then.)
Great video and a fantastic looking router and workbench insert plate.
Thank you
Very very nice Stuart, enjoy. Take care as always from South Africa
Thank you
Looks a decent bit of kit
I've long been a fan of trend for router units having owned a T10 for some years now and still trying to justify the T11 and router table to the one who wants all the jobs done (the wife) this is looking like I need to rethink my work bench plans.
I am currently working on a positive airflow extraction system I'll let you know if it works
Excellent. Thank you for showing this
Nice to see a "router" set up instead of a "rooter"!
nice machine no doubt it will serve you for many years .i went with the Triton 1/2" myself ,2 reasons price and super fast bit change on the Triton i was hoping you would show that in video. can you raise bit enough to change it out above table .great channel
It does look like a very good setup, in your next vid you do could you drop in that one of your long time subs needs the same setup like yours it would be most appreciated many thanks in advance and i look forward to hearing from you in the near future.
It really grinds my pickle when the same company that I've been trying to get to replace my faulty tools from, that refuses me and messes me about until my guarantee expires, can just send these youtubers totally free goods just for exposure! I've spent more than i care to think about on Trend tools over the years and they can't sort my issues out but can straight up send totally free of charge tools to these guys. Shouldn't the people that pay out of there own pocket be priority for them? Obviously not🤦🏻♂️. Done with Trend as a company
Well said
You're weren't done with them as a company when they sold you faulty garbage? Only when someone else got free stuff?
@@rndmcnflct who said they were faulty when i purchased them? Don't you think I'd have returned them for a replacement or refund if they were faulty when initially purchased? Clever bo11ocks 🥴
I buy Trend tools but nearly every time I am disappointed with them.
@freshpootubeThanks for voicing your concern. Could be a valuable resource of information for me.
No offence 😅 but how valid would your statement be when you have stayed away from them?
Personnel is changing over time. Company policies change over time. Market situation and competition has indeed changed over the past decade (web shopping/competition/UA-camrs).
Recent experience is valuable. Old, not really.
I am looking to buy a router in this performance range. Therefore it would be very nice of you if you could help me out here. No lengthy explanation needed. Just a hint if your posting is an old personal opinion or recent fact based cases. If the latter, pls be so kind and quote the sources of information for me to study. This router really interests me. Would be sad to waste money on a company lacking an understanding about customer care and reputation.
Kind regards
Anders
Sweden
Retired (with a major wood working project coming up) 😉
Your base is a bit anemic for the weight I fear but with some beefing up should be fine. I have a 1 1/2 inch thick router base on my Woodsmith router table and it works fine with my 3 HP Porter Cable router. Gotta admit I love it and it has worked well for me over the years.
I agree, I would be nervous with that flimsy insert while spinning a 2.5” bit let alone anything larger.
Very nice, thanks Stuart
would be great to have the option of foot control.
Yes that is got the answer to my question thanks my friend
Nice video. I also have the Triton TRA which is a very good similar spec machine at a much lower price.
I don't think there is a better model than the TRA001 - at least not at that kind of price point (no doubt if you spend thousands on an industrial scale one it would be better). I'm not sure if the Trend router does this too, but the TRA having the auto collet lock when extended fully so you can change the bit with a single spanner from above the table is a game changer.
My dream video would be if Bill Bailey (of DIY Sandwich fame) joined you on one of your videos! Just sayin’!
Be grand if you could do a video on how to use a router and what the bits are all for :)
A good video and definitely food for thought. Does the height adjustment system just push against the plunge springs on the router? In which case it will work with virtually any plunge router. I can afford the plate, but I'm not in the market for a new router right now... I realise I am going to have to drill the plate for my router. Thanks
Proper job again mate. You posh git you. 😂 enjoy the video mate, will be looking at trend gear later.
Thanks
Nice little feebee you got there. but nobody in there right mind would buy that. For less than that you can get an Incra lift and a dedicated motor which is the dogs bollocks of this type of table router system.
What a great piece of kit 👌🏻
Yep
I am slowly building my ideal workbench, I have two kreg benches fitted side by side giving me a 1.6m X 1 m workbench frame. Ideally I want to fit a router and table saw into the workbench top. This router would be/is ideal, perfect specs plus dedicated cut-off switch. I will save up my pennies. Here is an idea that perfectly fits your advertising goals. Go to a guy like me trying to finish his first workbench and help him complete it with TREND products.
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Will there be a video review regarding the T14?
For some reason UA-cam had unsubscribed me from your channel. Nearly missed this episode.
Very nice of Trend to supply you with your new toy! Did you make the fence yet?
Hi I have subscribed to your channel and pleased with all the videos I have watched up to now. I have even ordered a laser level after watching your video on it. I also watched the video on the router table plate and thought this would be a good project to do as i need one, I then looked at the price of the Trend router that you managed to get for free. I do think that over £853 is not what I would call a reasonable price to pay for an average DIY person. If however you get an offer of another one for free, please let me know. Regrds. Russ.
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I have the T8 router on mine but have had difficulty using the lift mechanism when rising the router up. I've only discovered that removing the plunge springs may be the best option. I couldn't find any guidance on this within the manual. Is this something you've done on your router to make setting the bit height from above easier?
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Very nice, but for £800+ for both, I’m giving that one a miss unless trend could send me one to try out.
I have the new trend cordless router, will it also fit this router plate, using the plunge base.??
Hi, great video I got my T14 from Folkestone fittings much cheaper than any where else.
Just got the insert plate myself.
What size cutter did you use.
Looks a great bit of kit, and I'm regretting buying the Trend 1/2 router I bought last year (and haven't used in anger), as well as the Lumberjack benchtop router table. ah well.
Great video as always, keep up the great work.
Thanks
Great stuff 👍👍
Thanks
Is the t14 a brushless motor i cant find that detail and pics do not seem to show the fitting to replace the grapite brushes ??
Hi Stuart, nothing like having a new 'toy' in the workshop, I assume this is a English band? Will you be fixing a dust collection system to the bench, take care and keep safe, best regards from Australia.
Thanks Lea. Yes UK brand that's quite well know for routers. Yes dust collection will be there
Great vid again. Do you still have the old hand router you had at the start I think it was a Katsu. Mine is still going strong🤣
Does anyone know of any other cheaper routers that enable you to adjust the heights when it's mounted to a table and adjusting from the top
Strewth is it Friday already Stuart? Enjoying the weekly double helping!
I'm glad!
Can you use any router with that or a trend one?
What is the make of your electric nail gun please ??
Just purchased a T14.... How does it fit in the case ?.... mine looked like it had been shoved in.... sealed box .... Awful case too .... Disappointing... Some of the attachments seem cheaply manufactured compared to my other routers.... T14 seems well made though...... I hope!
Mmmm, trendy! 😎
What is the thickness off the ply top you fitted the plate too.
18mm
Nice router I heard you had one. Insert looks good to. I have the T11 and DeWalt 625 which are basically the same units and previously models to yours. They are great.
Just curious to know how you are going to put an adjustable fence on your table to allow dado grooves to be cut?
Is that the end of the katsu? 😂
Like like like - want want want
User Manual ? Nooooooooo LOL The Trend Router looks like an impressive tool.
Amazing video as always just a shame its more "professional" than it is Diy where Aldi and lidl gona haha
Reading a clip title I thought you meant internet router 😜
I loved this video and was inspired to copy what you'd done until I saw the price. Out of my league I''m afraid.
Boy oh boy. You are far too relaxed doing that bit of routing. I love the part where you slapped your hands down. Dont get into a habbit doing that! Get a fence etc onto that thing before you have an accident.
3 1/2 minutes in,
What is that limb removal blade you have hanging off your bench under the dust brush?? LOL
Dog clamp holes next in the work bench
Looks great, however I would have been more interested in a DIY solution. £820 for router & the plate? WAY too expensive!!!
I refer to my previous comment!
Good build, but over £700 for the router and £80 plus for the plate, ill bet there are more economical options out there……
Great video but that is one pricey router at £720!
I'll just nip off and sell my car and then I can afford Trend routers and base plates too
Very nice but nearly £600.00 for the router alone i will pass....
Love your videos but thats a professional router, not a DIY tool...
I really don’t think that ply is a good choice for a router table. Perfectly flat insert plate at great expense placed into a material which, if flat in the first place, is unlikley to remain so. Better to buy the trend router pro table. Get a cheaper 1/12 and leave it in there. That router is damn heavy for non table use. Really only needed for routing worktops. Most diyers should go for something lighter. That router does not sound right by the way.
Hi I'm james I have brought a t4 router is the plate suitable for it to use ? Thanks james