I met Mitch Kupchak (the Lakers GM) the summer of 2016.. I worked for a chain storage company where he rented a unit. He was complaining to me about how his rent went up $12. I really wanted to tell him “maybe you should ask Deng for some money back” 😂
What I loved about all these horrible contracts is that they continued to float around the league for years, making for some really incredible voodoo math to make trades work.
That Blazers rant was PERSONAL 😭. I never quit grasped how DETRIMENTAL 2016 was to the blazers. All that money to like KD or just better players would have been so much better
They matched the Nets’ awful contract for Allen Crabbe , but at least he, and Evan Turner played games for them. Festus Ezili was”injured the whole damn time.” Urinating tree
I think the problem was that a lot of teams cleared out cap because they convinced themselves they had a shot at KD. So they cleared out $30-$40 million and lost out on KD, so they went “well, we’ve got all this money. We have to use it on something.”
Doc is a bum coach who's been coasting of one .500 season with a bad team and one championship with super team for years, honestly he could've done a lot worse then a mild case of nepotism
@@SnuggieMaple Doc is a bad coach and his career lives from the hype of the 08 championship, which he contributed almost nothing to. He has the most playoff blown leads in the NBA and is constantly criticized by his former players for not knowing how to adjust when his tactic of "Let's ride our best players to a win" fails. And yet, he was considered one of the top 15 coaches of all time. He's a fraud. What was unclear to you?
You guys can go even deeper on that Magic Thunder trade and basically say the Thunder traded Serge Ibaka for Shai Gilgeous Alexander, Danilo Gallinari, 2021 first-round pick (became Tre Mann), 2022 first-round pick (became Jalen Williams), 2023 first-round pick (via Heat), , 2024 first-round draft pick, 2025 first-round pick swap, 2026 first-round pick. Sam Presti is a thief in the night
The Ibaka trade was actually even worse than yall made it sound for the Magic, because they gave up Sabonis and Vic and those pieces eventually turned into Haliburton for the Pacers, and Shai and JDub plus picks for the Thunder. Major yikes lol. Great video yall.
Love the back and forth banter 👍🙂👍 Maybe you guys can do a retrospective on: 1) Signing of Deandre Jordan (Mavs vs Clippers) 2) LeBron's The Decision 3) KD's signing and eventual falling out w/the Warriors 4) The Highs and Below The Belts of Draymond Green 5) 2010's Dirtiest Players Looking forward to your next one 💪💪
I really think this offseason is not talked about enough. Role players were getting payed like future HOF’s and the funniest thing is that it wasn’t just two or three bad teams doing this it was literally everyone
As a heat fan, the Dwade one was just so stupid for absolutely no reason. They told the best player in franchise history, that's primarily responsible for them having 3 chips in the first place (LeBron ain't coming to Miami without Dwade) and one season removed from Dwade carrying the heat to the semi finals game 7 against the raptors without Bosh and with Whiteside playing like shit before missing the final four games anyway "fuck you, kick rocks, I'm not paying you more than Tyler Johnson nor even half of what we're offering Whiteside". Dude was never the highest paid player on the heat and Pat wouldn't even offer him 50 million when he just did the same for Tyler fucking Johnson.
i remember listening to the starters podcast and they were talking about how all of the new tv money meant that these contracts were actually all perfectly acceptable and smart. i yelled bismack biyombo! at my radio and stopped listening not long after that.
This was like 3 years after that horrid trade with Boston they were a lolcow the phrase poverty franchise was invented for them specifically Anthony Bennett embodied the franchise at the time😂😂😂
the only notable thing anyone would remember from Bennetts time with the Nets is appearing on Shaqtin a Fool when he said "Don't watch us (the Nets) play this season"
A lot of these teams problems is that they committed players to such long deals, if they gave the kitchen sink to a role player for like 2 years they wouldn’t be crippled
"Is Dragan Bender still playing professional basketball in the world?" "No, pickup basketball on a high school court doesn't count." That back-and-forth response was hilarious.
As a Nets fan, love what we did in that offseason. We had no draft picks and just said "Fuck it" and just threw money at everyone just to screw with other teams.
That Horford signing was wild cause I remember there was a source off at the end where one guy was saying he was going to the Celtics and another guy said he was gonna go back to the Hawks with Dwight Genuinely super stressful but we got our guy in the end 🍀
Ironically KD could’ve formed his own super team with the thunder by them drafting sabonas and trading for oladipo. Adding that with kd and Westbrook and you got something special
Yeah, but steph, and prime draymond are def better than Russ and oladipo. By destroying the thunder KD joined a straight up unfair team and took out one of their best competitors. If he stayed in okc he would still have to beat the 73 win warriors.
It deserves mentioning that NBA teams must pay at least 90 percent of the salary cap and the teams couldn't renegotiate with players under contracts so that in part explains why so many unworthy players got those contracts; teams had to spend the money.
Love that "IDK because doing Cocaine is Fun thats why" Line from Rayce xD Every Time I hear it Im laughing hard because its to true about Bazemore's Contract xDDDD
Tbf with Bismack, toronto brought him in for defense, like dgaf about points just play defence. Im sure this dude broke rebounds and block records for raps in the playoffs too, him and JV on the board was a madness
people reduce this offseason to one move and going through it just shows how few teams were even competent less than ten years ago at this. the warriors and like 4 other teams did some good moves but using money because you have it is dumb.
In a sea of terribly bland UA-cam sports commentary channels, you guys provide something unique in the art direction and dual convo commentary. You guys will grow quite a bit this year for sure
yall gotta contextualize by mentioning the nba has a salary floor of 90% of the cap, sometime you just gotta give guys money to not get penalized, perfect example is this season w the rockets giving dildo bricks 20m/yr
94 million for chandler parsons for 3 games. That sucks When they could've paid tony Allen. Vince n z bo each 23 million for 3 years and had a lot of money to work with
I met Mitch Kupchak (the Lakers GM) the summer of 2016.. I worked for a chain storage company where he rented a unit. He was complaining to me about how his rent went up $12. I really wanted to tell him “maybe you should ask Deng for some money back” 😂
You should've. That woulda been LEGENDARY😂
$12? Guy needs to take a walk 😭
😂😂😂CLASSIC😂😂😂
Thats hilarious and at the same time, makes me furious. Goddamn cheapskate in the wrong places
@fishin4bass2002As a Hornets fan, that's just the Hornets, Horneting
Miami really played the LONG game by having DWade whisper in Jimmy’s ear in Chicago.
Pat Riley was playing 18-dimensional chess
“Thanks Mike” yall regretting that now ain’t you 😂😂😂😂
What I loved about all these horrible contracts is that they continued to float around the league for years, making for some really incredible voodoo math to make trades work.
It is SHOCKING that this channel doesn't have more subs. This is the most entertaining NBA channel I know.
That Blazers rant was PERSONAL 😭. I never quit grasped how DETRIMENTAL 2016 was to the blazers. All that money to like KD or just better players would have been so much better
They matched the Nets’ awful contract for Allen Crabbe , but at least he, and Evan Turner played games for them. Festus Ezili was”injured the whole damn time.” Urinating tree
As kd would go to this shithole😂
I think the problem was that a lot of teams cleared out cap because they convinced themselves they had a shot at KD. So they cleared out $30-$40 million and lost out on KD, so they went “well, we’ve got all this money. We have to use it on something.”
The problem was every team suddenly had an extra 25mil per year to spend lol
@@ejiggleexactly and they had to spend it I think abs remember, really everyone knew damn well GSW was winning it all
@@ejigglefacts
New CBA demands teams use 90% of the salary cap - buckle up for this becoming standard.
I honestly don't understand why this was included
@@nanathegoat5106Oakland As
@@JC3_420Plus with upcoming expansion it allows more talent to be spread out
@@nanathegoat5106cause guess gotta spend it somewhere
Remember, don't blame the players for accepting the money. Blame the teams that made the contracts.
Exactly never can blame a player for making money
@@Bigedub101 blame a player's AGENT for that too
Thanking mike for Poop Henderson is crazy 💀
The FACT that Doc legit gave his son that contract is crazy 😳🤯
Doc is a bum coach who's been coasting of one .500 season with a bad team and one championship with super team for years, honestly he could've done a lot worse then a mild case of nepotism
@@frameddonut1056what
@@SnuggieMaple Doc is a bad coach and his career lives from the hype of the 08 championship, which he contributed almost nothing to. He has the most playoff blown leads in the NBA and is constantly criticized by his former players for not knowing how to adjust when his tactic of "Let's ride our best players to a win" fails. And yet, he was considered one of the top 15 coaches of all time. He's a fraud. What was unclear to you?
coaches dont make contracts
@@frameddonut1056 What was unclear to you 🤓
You guys can go even deeper on that Magic Thunder trade and basically say the Thunder traded Serge Ibaka for Shai Gilgeous Alexander, Danilo Gallinari, 2021 first-round pick (became Tre Mann), 2022 first-round pick (became Jalen Williams), 2023 first-round pick (via Heat), , 2024 first-round draft pick, 2025 first-round pick swap, 2026 first-round pick. Sam Presti is a thief in the night
The Ibaka trade was actually even worse than yall made it sound for the Magic, because they gave up Sabonis and Vic and those pieces eventually turned into Haliburton for the Pacers, and Shai and JDub plus picks for the Thunder. Major yikes lol. Great video yall.
No wonder the finals were always Cavs-Warriors during this time. Tons of teams were making bonehead moves
The salary inflation is real because I'm listening to these "bad contracts" and thinking "sure they're bad, but they're not that bad"
One of my fav parts of friday is getting out of work, hopping on the bus and listening to a new episode. Thanks for the great job guys
Love the back and forth banter 👍🙂👍 Maybe you guys can do a retrospective on:
1) Signing of Deandre Jordan (Mavs vs Clippers) 2) LeBron's The Decision
3) KD's signing and eventual falling out w/the Warriors
4) The Highs and Below The Belts of Draymond Green
5) 2010's Dirtiest Players
Looking forward to your next one 💪💪
17:47 nah we good with Brandon Miller 😂 even though I did want scoot on draft night
I love me a 32 minute synthetic sports video
The trend that seems to have happened is if you didn't completely fail the 2016 offseason,you did pretty good in the 7+ years following
Luol Deng contract essentially funding the rise of the south sudan team is crazy
Chandler Parsons is like top ten in the “most hated by Memphis” category for so many reasons.
I really think this offseason is not talked about enough. Role players were getting payed like future HOF’s and the funniest thing is that it wasn’t just two or three bad teams doing this it was literally everyone
Joe Johnson was worth that 2/22M
He beat that LobCity Clippers team on game winner 😂
nah coming home from work to a synthetic sports video is paradise
As a heat fan, the Dwade one was just so stupid for absolutely no reason. They told the best player in franchise history, that's primarily responsible for them having 3 chips in the first place (LeBron ain't coming to Miami without Dwade) and one season removed from Dwade carrying the heat to the semi finals game 7 against the raptors without Bosh and with Whiteside playing like shit before missing the final four games anyway "fuck you, kick rocks, I'm not paying you more than Tyler Johnson nor even half of what we're offering Whiteside". Dude was never the highest paid player on the heat and Pat wouldn't even offer him 50 million when he just did the same for Tyler fucking Johnson.
i remember listening to the starters podcast and they were talking about how all of the new tv money meant that these contracts were actually all perfectly acceptable and smart. i yelled bismack biyombo! at my radio and stopped listening not long after that.
Really love the content. I had a drought of not watching basketball youtubers for a bit but yall have got me back into it! Keep it up
Another great damn episode boys. Way better than 99% of these contracts 😂😂
Eric Gordon is the winner of the 2016 offseason
Love waking up in the morning and seeing a new video from my favorite boys
I think they good with not having scoot 😂
There’s no way the nets thought the worst draft bust of all time was gonna do anything 😂
This was like 3 years after that horrid trade with Boston they were a lolcow the phrase poverty franchise was invented for them specifically Anthony Bennett embodied the franchise at the time😂😂😂
@@Mula_Musicfr
It was a vet min not like they threw a bag
the only notable thing anyone would remember from Bennetts time with the Nets is appearing on Shaqtin a Fool when he said "Don't watch us (the Nets) play this season"
This channel deserves more subs and recognition
A lot of these teams problems is that they committed players to such long deals, if they gave the kitchen sink to a role player for like 2 years they wouldn’t be crippled
Mike Conley was a franchise player and one of the most loved guys to ever play for the Grizzlies, he 100% deserved that insane over pay
FVF of Toronto was such a a big piece of that championship finals run
Thanks!
"Is Dragan Bender still playing professional basketball in the world?"
"No, pickup basketball on a high school court doesn't count."
That back-and-forth response was hilarious.
what a great video. you should make this a series. good job guys.
One of the best and most entertaining channels on UA-cam. Keep it guys, love the content.
As a Nets fan, love what we did in that offseason. We had no draft picks and just said "Fuck it" and just threw money at everyone just to screw with other teams.
I respect the USDA Certified Grade A trolling.
That Horford signing was wild cause I remember there was a source off at the end where one guy was saying he was going to the Celtics and another guy said he was gonna go back to the Hawks with Dwight
Genuinely super stressful but we got our guy in the end 🍀
The best duo on UA-cam
Ironically KD could’ve formed his own super team with the thunder by them drafting sabonas and trading for oladipo. Adding that with kd and Westbrook and you got something special
Yeah, but steph, and prime draymond are def better than Russ and oladipo. By destroying the thunder KD joined a straight up unfair team and took out one of their best competitors. If he stayed in okc he would still have to beat the 73 win warriors.
This offseason is why I'm skeptical of some of the deals getting handed out now
you guys are entertaining asf! keep it up
I look forward to these videos every Friday, absolutely love them.
TLDR: The warriors had the best off season of all time and everyone else ate shit.
I Saw your nonstop video 🔥🔥
aye real shit, this channel needs more love
“And then they sign Loul Deng 4 yrs $72 million… Yeah because that’s how you replace Kobe…” it’s the laugh for me that comment 😂😂
We gonna look back at the summer of 2023 as the new summer of 2016
It deserves mentioning that NBA teams must pay at least 90 percent of the salary cap and the teams couldn't renegotiate with players under contracts so that in part explains why so many unworthy players got those contracts; teams had to spend the money.
I love your videos, you guys are really entertaining
That’s literally whats going on now with the new condition of teams must spend x amount of the cap, idk why they thought that was a good idea
The vitriol in you describing Portland's offseason lmao
Jason Smith is actually still working for the Wizards, granted for the broadcast team instead.
I guess Washing was determined to make him earn that contract lol
Andre was a 15 RPG guy. That's worth a lot.
The sequel to this will be the 2023-24 season with all these role players getting paid $100M’s
To this day, I watch this video for the Blazers rant😂😂😂😂😂
A lot of these contracts should have been like 5 or 6 mil max for these role players
Love that "IDK because doing Cocaine is Fun thats why" Line from Rayce xD Every Time I hear it Im laughing hard because its to true about Bazemore's Contract xDDDD
That hell no on the John Luer bit had me dying 😂
Tbf with Bismack, toronto brought him in for defense, like dgaf about points just play defence. Im sure this dude broke rebounds and block records for raps in the playoffs too, him and JV on the board was a madness
Love the vids - thanks
people reduce this offseason to one move and going through it just shows how few teams were even competent less than ten years ago at this. the warriors and like 4 other teams did some good moves but using money because you have it is dumb.
Saw ur big vic & feeling better?
How's Scoot working out over Miller now?
Scoot is in his rookie year. Give him time.
@@urbaindelva7869so is Brandon Miller
@@kyrinforpresidentSome do better than others.
This season might be worst look at these huge overpays and underpays 😬
Man I love this channel 😂😂
i love synthetic sports
Mozgov still counting his money… 💰😂
Sergio Rodriguez, One year, WHAT?!?!? 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
the Mike Conley trade was 100% worth it
Lance Thomas was also named Knicks captain
That’s why the heat will never get another ring
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In a sea of terribly bland UA-cam sports commentary channels, you guys provide something unique in the art direction and dual convo commentary. You guys will grow quite a bit this year for sure
The contracts of Batum, Noah and Mozgov (and even Deng too) all don't make sense whatsoever. I wish this was never replicated again. Please.
Cant wait to see the 2023 version
These are soooo good!
30:33 made me spill my beer 😂😂 cmon y’all
love ur vids
yall gotta contextualize by mentioning the nba has a salary floor of 90% of the cap, sometime you just gotta give guys money to not get penalized, perfect example is this season w the rockets giving dildo bricks 20m/yr
I rmmeber thinking it was Kurt Thomas also 😂😂😂
This video is great.
That Batum contract is wicked
94 million for chandler parsons for 3 games. That sucks When they could've paid tony Allen. Vince n z bo each 23 million for 3 years and had a lot of money to work with
I actually liked mozgovs toughness. Definitely wasnt worth close to the money but he was serviceable when he played.
the nhl had the same thing happen around the same time
I remember the Evan Fournier contract well because of all the jokes about “don’t google his last name” going around (don’t do it btw)
Yo I was watching the video but had to pause to like the video and give a hell yeah to the Roy Hibbert video sumdae
The... vinegar and anger in his voice about Portland offseason
When will they react to the hoop family State Farm commercials with dame
Fournier and Vucevic got them to the playoffs. He had 5 years of scoring over 17 ppg. How is that bad for 17 mil a year please explain to me.
Respect yourself. In what universe is 85 mill good for Evan Fournier
@@Nahanoo When a player averaging 18 ppg has a salary that is not even in the top 50 ?
Pretty much every era.
Isn’t there like a salary cap floor? So some have to overpay to not be penalized
6:52 Preach it!! 14:16
Ian was the starter for the pacers the year before and drummond was an all-nba player I believe so yeahhh they were banking on potential
this is why I hate nba 2k17, so hard to make a trade since most bum had bigger contract
IS THAT THE YEAR BATUM WAS A HORNET
DENG X MOZGOV WAS A LAKER
JOE JOHNSON BACKEND MONEY ?
IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL YEAR THAT YEAR
Amennnnn god blesss and follow god road amennnn