I like both, but I feel like a real coney dog is Flint style. Most places have chili style dogs, but they don't have that unique sauce like what Angelo's showed. A good Koegel dog, a meaty drier sauce with the onions and mustard. BTW, like them Illini, no ketchup.
@@lawrencebaxa5563 Then they improved it in Flint 2 years later. I grew up in SE Michigan and I don't Know too many people who don't prefer Flint style if they've had it over Detroit style. Nothing wrong with D style, Flint's just better.
Beefheart and beef liver are used in the Flint coney version. Meat sauce like this comes from the Macedonian area and also Greece hence the people coming over to the USA and creating this type of hot dog. But the Flint and Detroit coney are unique to Michigan. They should have included Jackson MI because a man came there and started a coney business in the early 1900's by the last name of Todoroff and his descendants claim he invented the Michigan coney island before the Flint and Detroit guys.
There will ALWAYS be differences in opinions in who's is better and where. The bottom line here is I too 'am a Born & Raised Michigander, and we are world famous for "Coney Dogs, Chili Dogs, Coney Sauce, Hot Dog Sauce, and Michigan Sauce". At the end of the day..... Michigan is blessed with Koegel's and great Coney's all over the state.
Agree, I had them in Jackson before and they were similar to Flint's, pretty good. I live in Alpena now and find most places that have coneys up here serve a more D style sauce. Growing up in Flint I miss our coneys, so whenever I get down there I pick some sauce up to take home.
If you don't mind me asking, what part of the state are you from ? Shortly after I posted this, I discovered that Leon's in Livonia (7 Mile/Middlebelt) serves just plain "Chilli Dogs."
I live in the tri-cities, but spend alot of time in Metro D. I used to live between 7 and 8 mile Rd. Off Merriman Rd. Never ate there. All wats ate at coney Island in Livonia mall.
Oh lawd, I live in crossover country and you have to specify Flint or Detroit style. Coming from the land of a coney on every corner, I didn't know about "Flint" style and thought it was blasphemy on a plate!! It's whatever you grow up with that is"home"
I am curious if they're sauce has tomato paste in it. I also wonder if beefhaert s also used. I trid t make asauce with a 50/50 hamburger/beefheart mix. It was reall good!
My friend's dad makes it with all beef heart, pretty good. I have seen a few different recipes, some with heart, some with a mix (always lean beef) I have even saw a couple with ground up franks mixed in. I moved up north to Alpena from Flint a few years ago and was trying to make some decent coney sauce. It's all chili sauce/D style up here. I generally just buy the Koegel's Coney sauce in the tube at Meijer, closest thing I can find. I think it's the base for Starlight's coney sauce.
6:48 If Abbott's Meats Inc makes their sauce then it's not the same recipe from 1949. They didn't have Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP) back then. You can buy the sauce from Koegel's and since they only use Koegel's dogs it makes sense that Koegel's would sell Abbott's. You can read the ingredients here. www.buykoegels.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=63
It's always great to see the classic joints with the old-timers still working...but why are the interviewers always so lame...? Most seem to think they're so slick but actually they come off as lame and uninformed...
Saginaw/Bay City style are the best. I love Detroit's but I can't stand Flints style. If you're ever in Saginaw stop at Old Town Drive In, it'll change your life.
I grew up in Bay City. Nothing better than a Red Lion Coney Dog. When I was in the Air Force, my dad picked me up at the Tri City Airport and our first stop was the Red Lion.
A Flint style Coney is very comparable to Capital Lunch out of New Haven Ct. All of us Northerners Know a good dog. Koegel hotdogs are hands down, the best dog. My Chicago, New England, and Michigan friends agree. The difference between a Real Flint style coney, and the New England style "coney", is, In Michigan, we add Hot dogs to our meat sauce. Although we All have our own version of meat sauces, the heart of the dish, is the dog itself. That said, Muckies, Martin rossol (both monumental dogs), Koegel dogs out of Flint Michigan, are the best. Hands down. Try one, then criticize at will. You wont be disappointed !
Double the mustard and give it a few pickled jalapenos and I'm all in, either way... coming from Monroe, Toledo and Detroit. you can't go wrong!
Gotta go with Flint all day long... but I wouldn't turn my back on a Detroit style coney in a pinch!!
I'm from Flint and our Conies are the best!!! Everybody wanna use Koegels now!!!
Sorry Nothing beats Lafayette in Detroit and Bill's Hot Dogs in Ypsilanti.
I like both, but I feel like a real coney dog is Flint style. Most places have chili style dogs, but they don't have that unique sauce like what Angelo's showed. A good Koegel dog, a meaty drier sauce with the onions and mustard. BTW, like them Illini, no ketchup.
What do you mean the real. It was invented in Detroit.
@@lawrencebaxa5563 Then they improved it in Flint 2 years later. I grew up in SE Michigan and I don't Know too many people who don't prefer Flint style if they've had it over Detroit style. Nothing wrong with D style, Flint's just better.
Angelos in FLINT baby...
Angelos Rocks!
Closed on Dec 28, 2018. End of an era.
www.mlive.com/news/flint/2018/12/angelos-coney-island-closes-after-nearly-60-years-in-flint.html
I forgot about this place. Awesome!
Beefheart and beef liver are used in the Flint coney version. Meat sauce like this comes from the Macedonian area and also Greece hence the people coming over to the USA and creating this type of hot dog. But the Flint and Detroit coney are unique to Michigan. They should have included Jackson MI because a man came there and started a coney business in the early 1900's by the last name of Todoroff and his descendants claim he invented the Michigan coney island before the Flint and Detroit guys.
A lot of places use welsh corgies instead nowadays
I will have to hit Angelos the next time I am up there
Angelo's has since closed. The neighborhood has gone to hell.
Is there any way to order the coney sauce
Fli-Style is the only way that thing they sell in Detroit is a "Chili-Dog"
There will ALWAYS be differences in opinions in who's is better and where. The bottom line here is I too 'am a Born & Raised Michigander, and we are world famous for "Coney Dogs, Chili Dogs, Coney Sauce, Hot Dog Sauce, and Michigan Sauce".
At the end of the day..... Michigan is blessed with Koegel's and great Coney's all over the state.
Agree, I had them in Jackson before and they were similar to Flint's, pretty good. I live in Alpena now and find most places that have coneys up here serve a more D style sauce. Growing up in Flint I miss our coneys, so whenever I get down there I pick some sauce up to take home.
My 1st dog in the early 60’s was with Michigan sauce, I still call’em the same today
Angelos!
If you don't mind me asking, what part of the state are you from ? Shortly after I posted this, I discovered that Leon's in Livonia (7 Mile/Middlebelt) serves just plain "Chilli Dogs."
I know herr! :D
They have the BEST food. Legit. Everything on the menu is amazing!!! :)
Coney Dogs are from Jackson.
Todoroff 1914.
Go for the Flint. Just don't drink the water. ;)
Flint dude said "It's better then Detroit Coney's" then follows up with it has liver and heart in the Chilli. I'll pass 🤣
i'm trying not to eat pork anymore. but, being from flint, it's hard not having a flint style coney now and then. angelos was the best.
I live in the tri-cities, but spend alot of time in Metro D. I used to live between 7 and 8 mile Rd. Off Merriman Rd. Never ate there. All wats ate at coney Island in Livonia mall.
Oh lawd, I live in crossover country and you have to specify Flint or Detroit style. Coming from the land of a coney on every corner, I didn't know about "Flint" style and thought it was blasphemy on a plate!! It's whatever you grow up with that is"home"
As far as I know only Coney!
I am curious if they're sauce has tomato paste in it. I also wonder if beefhaert s also used. I trid t make asauce with a 50/50 hamburger/beefheart mix. It was reall good!
My friend's dad makes it with all beef heart, pretty good. I have seen a few different recipes, some with heart, some with a mix (always lean beef) I have even saw a couple with ground up franks mixed in. I moved up north to Alpena from Flint a few years ago and was trying to make some decent coney sauce. It's all chili sauce/D style up here. I generally just buy the Koegel's Coney sauce in the tube at Meijer, closest thing I can find. I think it's the base for Starlight's coney sauce.
Only water should be used to heat a hot dog.
6:48 If Abbott's Meats Inc makes their sauce then it's not the same recipe from 1949. They didn't have Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP) back then. You can buy the sauce from Koegel's and since they only use Koegel's dogs it makes sense that Koegel's would sell Abbott's. You can read the ingredients here.
www.buykoegels.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=63
Had both, they are OK. But, if you really want the best --- take a drive down to Ft Wayne. They've been doing it longer and they are much better.
No tomato paste! A real coney dog is not made from chilli. Angelos is great. VERY similar to the Flint Coney Island dog which is outstanding.
beans what the fuck are those.
Hold up...... I take my Coney flint style.... But how you gonna disrespect layfatte like that....
It's always great to see the classic joints with the old-timers still working...but why are the interviewers always so lame...? Most seem to think they're so slick but actually they come off as lame and uninformed...
Saginaw/Bay City style are the best. I love Detroit's but I can't stand Flints style. If you're ever in Saginaw stop at Old Town Drive In, it'll change your life.
I grew up in Bay City. Nothing better than a Red Lion Coney Dog. When I was in the Air Force, my dad picked me up at the Tri City Airport and our first stop was the Red Lion.
I respect the history and both places...but Lafayette is better.
ITS NOT CHILI!!! chick said it right first then messed it all up...its like sloppy joes ...just dont taste like chili or sloppy joes
Flint coneys no thank you...give me Lafayette all day
A Flint style Coney is very comparable to Capital Lunch out of New Haven Ct. All of us Northerners Know a good dog. Koegel hotdogs are hands down, the best dog. My Chicago, New England, and Michigan friends agree. The difference between a Real Flint style coney, and the New England style "coney", is, In Michigan, we add Hot dogs to our meat sauce. Although we All have our own version of meat sauces, the heart of the dish, is the dog itself. That said, Muckies, Martin rossol (both monumental dogs), Koegel dogs out of Flint Michigan, are the best. Hands down. Try one, then criticize at will. You wont be disappointed
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The best coneys only at american and lafayette.flints good but the best are downtown Detroit
@@bobrobelo9784 nah. Flint coneys are the best, in particular Angelos. and you have to use Koegel viennas.
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