Doing a rap song about offending people with a guy that's known to be offended by the whole genre is possiblity the funniest thing he's done yet. Is his next release just going to be called "I'M NOT TRIGGERED YOU'RE TRIGGERED?" It can be a colab with Jordan Peterson who can just cry throughout the song to add vibes.
"WHO CANCELS WHO?" by Tom McDonald (on vocals & beats) ft. Jordan Peterson (on apple cider, sobbing in a fugue state, occasionally honking out remarks about lobsters & unmade beds)
I haven’t gotten to the event horizon yet but I’m mentally preparing for “jesus is my (hard R)” x “early kidz bop” x “family vloggers rapping at 144p speed about minecraft”
I have an acquaintance that likes tom, for someone that listens to a guy that tries his hardest to be offensive, he gets really sensitive everytime I say I don't like tom.
I actually use to like Tom, but I was also younger and more impressionable. I like very few of his songs, I Wish always makes me cry, but I can’t stand how he talks about how sensitive people are but he himself constantly whines. + his UA-cam shorts are so aggravating, and he’s obviously making them as rage bait when promoting his songs
I think Tom has fallen down the "appeal to alt right for quick fame" rabbit hole. Some of his other songs where he's not ranting about culture war shit are pretty good
Eminem: "Let's do the math. if I was black, I would've sold half" Tom: The struggle of white rappers, amirite Eminem?" Eminem: "But don't blame me when little Eric jumps off of the terrace You shoulda been watchin' him, apparently you ain't parents" Tom: "I'm like this because of you. Why don't you like me?"
Fun fact scammers actually often purposely make scams not perfect because they want to target someone who is stupid as to not waste time trying with someone that can even if not right away see through the scam
This. The self-selection at work in most scams is purposeful and not to be underestimated. It's also a big reason why people who get scammed don't talk about it, because the prevailing narrative is about how stupid someone would need to be to fall for these things with obvious mistakes in them, so there's a great deal of shame on top of having been scammed.
@@emisformakerI watched something about this! And it makes a lot of sense… if they targeted ppl who just instantly reported them, they wouldn’t be able to proliferate across the elderly community.
My ex got scammed by one of those fake “we owe you money from Amazon” phone calls. He was busy at work and didn’t think much of it. He lost several thousand dollars and if we weren’t living together at the time, idk if he would have told me.
@@emisformaker100% it’s sucks everyone has their stupid moments and if someone is just naturally a stupid person that doesn’t mean they are less than or deserving it’s just like so many scammers in person target people who are small or shy etc
@@foreverNwonderthat really sucks I have gotten scammed buying things but luckily I have been good at getting my money back we all have moments when we are busy or stressed or just not thinking
1:04:27 i live in indiana, if i had a dollar for every time i see an american flag every day, i’d be able to move out of indiana on an unrelated note, a couple in my ex’s neighborhood once flew a pride flag but their neighbors got mad so they replaced it with a flag of guy fieri that said “flavortown”
@@foreverNwonder girl what? I'm not racist nor do I condone using the Confederate flag. I was saying that Indiana also has a ton of Confederate flags. Just like they have a ton of American flags. Jfc 🤦🏽
my starting word in wordle is ALWAYS fjord it's not a good one according to objective facts, but i just *feel* in my *soul* that ONE DAY. the word will be fjord and i will be the only person in the world to get it on the first try
My mom had a friend that would religiously put down the same lotto numbers every day, and one day she couldn’t get out to buy a ticket because of work. She asked her husband to buy the ticket for her. He messed up one of the numbers. The lottery pulled her usual numbers that night and she missed out on a mega-jackpot
idk what jordan and jarvis put in these podcasts, but for some reason my ability to style cosplay wigs suddenly becomes like 8x better for no reason?? is this probably a coincidence? yes. am i still gonna put on this podcast every time i have to so much as pick up a can of hair spray? obviously.
I’m 100% positive that the line at 48:55 was originally gonna be something like “You’d have to hate yourself as well because we’re both white dudes” to rhyme better with “That can’t be right dude” and then he changed it to “I’m you” but forgot to change the first line
President Garfield also got shot and absolutely would have survived if people hadn't tried to remove the bullet, because one of the ways they tried to find it was by using one of the world's first metal detectors to look for the bullet, but it was picking up on the metal of the springs in the bed so they were way, way off and just made everything worse.
Teddy Roosevelt got shot (who served as President after McKinley), insisted that no one harm the guy who shot him even though many wanted to, and then when he was arrested, continued with his speech. He knew that since he didn't cough up blood the bullet didn't make it to his lungs, and figured he didn't have to rush to the doctors, so he did a 50 minute speech. They ended up not removing it bc they finally learned that it'd probably do more harm if they tried.
one time someone requested a tom macdonald song to play on my local radio station and the whole chat was like wow this is the best thing i've ever heard! and when i thought it couldn't get worse the munchkin himself calls into this albertan radio station to be like hey man as a canadian it's great to hear that my stuff is being played back at home. the host was so excited to talk to him and i felt like i was hallucinating
That would actually be kind of charming if this guy wasn't so fucking sad. Like basically everything he said in this song was just the rap equivalent of ,,I am not like other girls"
The fact that Jarvis nailed that it was gonna be number one but the actual line from Ben was so much cringier than anything Jarvis suggested makes my day
Tom Mcdonald reminds me of those high school boys who's entire personality is being as edgy as possible and they think everyone loves it but really most people are just laughing because they're uncomfortable.
the kids who get mad when you don't laugh and act like you're offended... like sorry dude I just want to pay attention to class I don't care what you say (which makes them even madder)
I think the most ironic part about the song is that in the first verse, Tom says "But you ain't pro-gun, no one to protect it" and then a few lines later he says "we ain't pushing guns" like it's such an obvious contradiction it's insane
me having adhd is starting this video at 7 am and repeatedly forgetting im watching it, restarting, pausing it, going somewhere and here I am at 7pm with 30 minutes left still.
The nega-chin thing cracked me up when I heard Liam O’Brian say a similar thing on Critical Role for the first time :’) had to go and listen back like 3 times to realise he was saying Nega and not just dropping the N word mid-dnd-game.
In the USA dueling stopped after the Civil War since around 4% of the population died in it(mostly young men who would get in duels otherwise). It continued in Europe, slowly petering out until WWI at which point a TON of young men died and everyone decided not to encourage them to kill each other
Actually it was fairly common for German and Austrian military academy students to duel each other and give each other super gnarly face scars, which is where the trope of Nazi officers with gross face scars comes from. The Nazis thought huge borderline disfiguring facial scars were hot, apparently
TW gross body talk and eye stuff: In regards to the eye depreciation talk, my brother's friend recently went to the optometrist and they told him his retinas were "hanging on by a thread" and they had to do emergency surgery. It's called retinal detachment and apparently it was caused by his massive growth spurt he had at the end of high school. Now he's mostly blind in one eye. Crazy
My mum has that (idk if it’s age related for her). In her case they can’t really do anything about it because she’s got multiple other eye issues impairing things. Sorry about your brother’s friend. Hopefully he’s adapting well.
@@genericname8727 yeah I think it's one of those things where there's not much you can do. The body just gets older :/ sorry about your mom. And I think he's doing alright! I appreciate it
Omg that's awful!! My aunt had it happen to her a couple years ago, she had so many things happen to her she was the toughest person I know beating thyroid several skin and breast cancers, my mom said she had to drive to this doctors office and lay face down for hours at a time and eventually she was able to get it to reattach. I had NEVER heard of this before she went through it. I'm so so sorry your brothers friend had to go through that! Bless his heart
Im honestly convinced that both the Ben verses and the Ben appearances in the videos are just AI and Ben himself had no involvement other than approving it and getting a check
Honestly I’m just happy yall address and try to compensate misophonia at all! It really means a lot, all my life ppl think I’m being over dramatic and it doesn’t rly matter so it makes me happy that yall think about it ❤ and hey, it’s a podcast, it’s rly hard to avoid all mouth sounds just bc of the format! And ppl should know that going into it! Love yalllllll
I think they did a really good job masking it in this episode. I’m only 12 minutes in but I haven’t heard the usual mouth sounds that I’ve heard in the past.
he has on stream as well, giving misophonia warnings for when he’s gonna eat. jarvis doesn’t personally affect my misophonia but it’s nice to see a content creator bring it up.
@@TheProfessor230 Which is honestly a solid response. Most people who ask that question aren't actually interested in the answer - they just want to pick a fight.
i think rap is seen in a similar way to modern art, where the actual artistic ability is overlooked (especially by conservatives), and people go “well, i could do that.” and then they do it and find out it actually takes skill, but are too proud to admit it’s bad. so we end up with things like this.
the worst part of the song for me was him calling himself a "caucasian rapper" like i know everyone means white when they say caucasian but that's one of my biggest icks 😭😭 as an armenian, i just want everyone to look at a map and stop equating people from the caucasus with white people it's so annoying, especially bc if this guy saw an actual caucasian person he would not think they're white lol
i feel like kitboga, when things kind of get real and the person on the other end opens up to him about their conditions, is actually quite sympathetic. he often tries to give them advice, or words of comfort that things will look up for them, from what i've seen of him. i agree that he's in a very privileged position, and so his advice can only go so far when he isn't experiencing the world in the same way as these scammers, but i do think that he refrains from making fun of them or judging them whenever they get real with him. he usually matches their energy, giving respect and sympathy when respect is given to him. he acknowledges that a lot of scammers aren't exactly working at these centers because they want to - he just wants them to hopefully find work that isn't exploiting a vulnerable demographic of people halfway across the world.
58:25 About the scamming question "can't they do a better job?" Idk the percentage but I'm sure a fair share of them are just incompetence, but in plenty of scams the shoddy quality can actually be a strategy to weed out the people who are careful not to fall for scams so that the people who buy in are genuinely gullible enough to just keep falling for the scam
I work in a restaurant and our kitchen manager constantly blasts nothing but Tom McDonald for HOURS straight. Literally I can't tell whether he's playing a mix of this guy's music or just the same 2 songs over and over again, but in any case it feels like an act of aggression I should bring up to hr
Oh jfc, you poor thing!!! I can't stand listening to country music, hearing it play in grocery stores just drives me up the wall, but at least I can leave. I don't think I could handle dealing with that, bless your heart!
i think it’s the opposite. i think they were bullied too much, and this is the consequence. we can still bully them now though. also your comment implies that they were one child that morphed into two men. maybe that’s why they’re short, they’re each one half of a tall person.
Most of the other old members of Young Money are keeping quiet and focusing on their businesses. Nicki mocking Megans feet cuz her shoes are already too big for her to fill at a decade+ younger lol. Barbz be extra delusional these days.
fun fact: sometimes bloodletting is still a thing that is recommended for some diseases, the main one basically being Too Much Blood Disorder. also fun fact, in rare cases taking testosterone can cause the Too Much Blood Disorder so if you’re a trans man you could potentially be one of the few people in the world for whom bloodletting is actually medically sound
I'm a very new baseball card collector (I've actually been cataloging my collection while listening to the podcast), and the baseball card economy had its boom and bust in value before I was even born. With the way the market is now, you can't just be into it for the money. My collection is worth about as much as the amount of money I've put into it, give or take, and that's completely fine to me. If I was looking for ROI I'd get into the stock market. I got into baseball cards because I love baseball and I enjoy collecting things, and the community both online and in person is very passionate and polite and helpful. People collect things because they like the things, not just because of money. Most of my favorite cards in my collection are worth less than $1, and I'm completely fine with it. I like them for the players, or the pictures on the card, or the stories attached. If you only get into collectables because you want to make money, if/when the collectables lose their value, you're just gonna be stuck with some plastic or cardboard that you don't even care about on its own.
I'm into Bratz dolls and they have been trending recently. One of the most common complaints is scalpers grabbing dolls for cheap and trying to resell them for hundreds. Of course, nobody is buying. There are millions of naked plastic women selling for $10 each, which is how much they sold for brand new 20 years ago.
My ex liked Tom MacDonald for like 2 songs before she realised he wasn't doing it ironically. I would like to recite a line from a Kabuto The Python track: "If you a white kid nobody cares, there's about a million white rappers right over there" Like, Tom, Thomas, Tommy Boy, Tomathan, you're not being bullied for being a white rapper, you're being bullied for being a white apologist. And Ben's flow reminds me of what Brian David Gilbert called Educational Rap Flow (derogatory)
It took me weeks to get that “Asian girl” song out of my head after you guys covered it both individually and on the podcast, so I’m looking forward to this.
@@foreverNwonderI thought the same thing immediately when I saw this comment. 😂 Like, if this is what he thinks rap is of course he doesn't think it's real music.
This is so incredibly surface level observation bc getting into all the bullshit in that song is exhausting but like the ‘living w their parents’ line ben let’s not pretend your audience isn’t vast majority ppl who live w their parents as well It’s such a pathetic attempt to own ppl imo bc it’s like if ppl have the means to live w their parents during the economic crisis we’re going through then that’s just more fiscally responsible, there’s also so many factors that it involves like disability and cultural norms that it’s just so boring to harp on
@20:09 i bought a box of random comics at this flea market booth that was closing up shop and she said 8 bucks for all other them and i said yes without looking at them. when i got home i got excited because they were all 1960s spiderman etc comics. i thought i hit the jackpot and then i looked closer and they were all 1980s reprints lol. still worth more than what i paid but relatable.
4:30 oh boy jarvis. I'm 31 and my initial diagnosis was the same: 2020 vision but I need to make an effort to focus. Nowadays I'm just another regular glasses user with a prescription and having to go every year to check if I need to change the prescription (I always do lol). Godspeed my friend, people say you can delay the degenerative effect of age by doing exercises
Oh my god thank you Jordon and Jarvis- I’m waiting for my number to be called at the social service office and I forgot the book I’d planned to bring at home. Nearly died but alas I am saved. Thank you.
6:08 Genuinely i have really really bad misophonia, but you guys don't bother me because of how much I like you. I don't know why thats a thing that happens but. I love you!
True, I don't know if there is a difference between Sad Boyz Jarvis and Jordan and them on their respective UA-cam channels but I've been listening to the podcast every week from when you guys started posting regularly even though I don't keep up with your individual channels
you should try getting kitboga on the show sometime! i watch him pretty frequently and he seems so nice but i also completely agree with your concerns about the ethics of targeting those kinds of scammers. would love to hear you guys have a conversation with him on the ethical dilemas surrounding his work/that industry as a whole (esp in instances where his audience just… gets pretty racist with it which i think he’s pushed back on before)
In the live streams, comments about nationality, race, etc are strictly prohibited. I don't think they pay as much attention to the youtube comments, though.
Kitboga would be an amazing guest. Would be great to see where the conversation would go between them all. Kit's audience is usually very respectful because that's the example he puts out, but I've never watched the streams live though only later on his YT channels. I do have to say that I absolutely disagree with what they said though, there is no excuse for scamming.
Some do know what they’re doing and don’t care, and some are definitely exploited workers working for an evil company. They have different backgrounds. Most of them are not financially well off or in a position to seek a better source of income though, which is why they resort to these scams. The scramming doesn’t pay as well as you might think typically. If they were just terrible individuals wanting to exploit the vulnerable for the sake of it, and they had opportunities for other forms of work, there’s plenty of other fields you can exploit people in while earning more money more consistently.
Exactly. Scammers = bad. Period. No excuses. Sometimes I wish they'd look into some of this stuff before commenting but it's obviously hard because it's just how/where their convos flow.
Well many scammers actually are, a lot of them work in countries that are hounded by neocolonialism and are actively being pushed by western based companies into these positions. The main problem, like always, is capitalism
_of course_ they know what they're doing. these are not contradictory statements. you can do an evil job and/or at an evil company, know that, and still materially have to do that job in order to make ends meet. many of these scam call centers also will threaten those who are working at them, or they will traffic people who then are stuck under the company's thumb. I've seen stories of places that would offer people work from out of the country and then trap them into having to work for them. which renders all criticism of such callers themselves moot.
the whole "being unable to do impressions of the people whose voices we hear the most" thing is very relatable and i've always wondered why that is!! i can mimic anybody's voice in the world but my brain is for some reason unable to process doing an impression of my parents
Know what makes me click on Sad Boyz and watch? Sad Boyz being uploaded. I can always count on yall to make my Saturday morning work paperwork less torturous : D
Hey audio only listener here! This is so my comfort podcast for riding on the bus and it is GREAT for that purpose but I have a little issue. Idk anything about audio so I don’t know if you can fix this, but I always have trouble hearing Jordan with all the background noise on my commute but I can’t turn the volume up or Jarvis/the guest become too loud. Might be specific to me but I wanted to point it out :)
Shout out to y’all keeping me company every Friday night while I clean and make dinner so I don’t have to do anything on the weekend but play Pikmin and sleep
I think I got this from a hbomb video but scams intentionally don't want to be too convincing to self select for gullibility so as to make their job easier and filter out people who will waste their time
So interesting to hear about metazoo. I went to the 2023 mothman festival and apparently it was partially funded by meta zoo and there was a meta zoo card competition. I didn't go to it and I didn't hear about it at all throughout the weekend, but on the last day there were people handing out packets of metazoo cards just for free. Me and my friend both got one packet and that's honestly the only reason I still remember them.
As a mexican man myself born mixed, and raised by a white family who also claimed rap is garbage music and isnt real music, this is the first kind of rap i found when i started exploring my music taste. I thought his stuff was amazing because i hadnt found actually good artists. Once i found people like DOOM and J.i.d and cole and kendrick, this guy became a relic of my very shitty taste. His audience is kids like i was, dont wanna engage with critically acclaimed hip hop, and old people who are just conservatives.
*laughs in American* you might be thinking of "Old MacDonald" which is a children's song. "Old MacDonald had a farm, ee ii ee ii oh, and on that farm he had a [insert farm animal here] ee ii ee ii oh, with a [insert correlating farm animal sound here] and a- (you get the point) but that's what I think of when I hear Tom MacDonald 😂😂😂😂😂
As a kid, I used to get these creature cards from an educational subscription. Weird and Wild Creatures, maybe? Those were cool because I was a nerd. I think those would have more clout than Metazoo.
I completely believed @ 42:11 that Jarvis was gonna say "I do acknowledge that Tom McDonald has a farm..."
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crying, sobbing, hyperventilating
Lmaooool
Oh hey I know you from other things!
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I will never understand how Ben Shapiro fans can stand listening to his voice for more than 10 seconds. It’s so nasally it puts squidward to shame
hah i'm like an anti-fan but i like his voice tbh
he's easy to imitate and easy to draw like pick a struggle
I mean. They could stand listening to Trump for hours. Ben's easy peasy.
please put some respect on squidward's name
Don't disrespect my man Squidward like that
"read aloud to the class flow" is golden. Another perfect joke from Jordan that got no reaction 😂
truly. another incredible jordan joke going unrecognized yet again smh
Someone needs to just create a compilation of every Jordan joke from the podcast that has gone entirely unnoticed by everyone else on the episode
"this is creepier than Stan" killed me 😭
Doing a rap song about offending people with a guy that's known to be offended by the whole genre is possiblity the funniest thing he's done yet. Is his next release just going to be called "I'M NOT TRIGGERED YOU'RE TRIGGERED?" It can be a colab with Jordan Peterson who can just cry throughout the song to add vibes.
I just assumed all of his songs were "I'M NOT TRIGGERED, YOU'RE TRIGGERED?"
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"WHO CANCELS WHO?" by Tom McDonald (on vocals & beats) ft. Jordan Peterson (on apple cider, sobbing in a fugue state, occasionally honking out remarks about lobsters & unmade beds)
@@ZijnShayatanicayou see, lobsters have a hierarchy
Bro is talking about offending people while writing whole songs because of one hater in his comments 💀
Tom MacDonald fighting in the war on the System on the side of the System
Raging on behalf of the machine
@@emisformaker I love this 😂
i’m laughing so hard at this 😂😂
System Of The Up
I was gonna make the joke Tom making a song "Love the Police" but I'm pretty sure he already has made that song
i know the video literally just got posted but the phrase "homie, im epic" has already pained me
I haven’t gotten to the event horizon yet but I’m mentally preparing for “jesus is my (hard R)” x “early kidz bop” x “family vloggers rapping at 144p speed about minecraft”
I think I just had my first out of body experience from reading this comment. Thank you for that.
"Dawg, it's a Yamaka, homie, no cap !!" 🤓
I have an acquaintance that likes tom, for someone that listens to a guy that tries his hardest to be offensive, he gets really sensitive everytime I say I don't like tom.
Do you care if you offend them? I think you need to say that first.
It's hilariously ironic how upset these 'stoic' right wingers get over the smallest of things.
I’ve found that the “I’m just being honest” people are really sensitive
I actually use to like Tom, but I was also younger and more impressionable. I like very few of his songs, I Wish always makes me cry, but I can’t stand how he talks about how sensitive people are but he himself constantly whines. + his UA-cam shorts are so aggravating, and he’s obviously making them as rage bait when promoting his songs
I think Tom has fallen down the "appeal to alt right for quick fame" rabbit hole. Some of his other songs where he's not ranting about culture war shit are pretty good
ben really said “this is not rap, this is not hip-hop, this is just an attempt to make the lefties stop”
"I wasn't raised in the hood, but I know a thing or two about pain and wokeness"
Eminem: "Let's do the math. if I was black, I would've sold half"
Tom: The struggle of white rappers, amirite Eminem?"
Eminem: "But don't blame me when little Eric jumps off of the terrace
You shoulda been watchin' him, apparently you ain't parents"
Tom: "I'm like this because of you. Why don't you like me?"
The fact he compares himself to Eminem is embarrassing 😂
Also Eminem: "Yeah, this whole subgenre with all these corny white rappers, I’m not a fan of it"
I wonder what he's referring to...
Shapiro's rap is just Bruno's rap from Black and White
I think you mean Black.
White.
I wish I could dispute that, this will forever be in my mind.
This! I was surprised they didn’t make that joke
cause when i see my wife i do not think i should Attack!
He's a midlife rapper. And he raps from A to Z
Fun fact scammers actually often purposely make scams not perfect because they want to target someone who is stupid as to not waste time trying with someone that can even if not right away see through the scam
This. The self-selection at work in most scams is purposeful and not to be underestimated. It's also a big reason why people who get scammed don't talk about it, because the prevailing narrative is about how stupid someone would need to be to fall for these things with obvious mistakes in them, so there's a great deal of shame on top of having been scammed.
@@emisformakerI watched something about this!
And it makes a lot of sense… if they targeted ppl who just instantly reported them, they wouldn’t be able to proliferate across the elderly community.
My ex got scammed by one of those fake “we owe you money from Amazon” phone calls. He was busy at work and didn’t think much of it.
He lost several thousand dollars and if we weren’t living together at the time, idk if he would have told me.
@@emisformaker100% it’s sucks everyone has their stupid moments and if someone is just naturally a stupid person that doesn’t mean they are less than or deserving it’s just like so many scammers in person target people who are small or shy etc
@@foreverNwonderthat really sucks I have gotten scammed buying things but luckily I have been good at getting my money back we all have moments when we are busy or stressed or just not thinking
1:04:27 i live in indiana, if i had a dollar for every time i see an american flag every day, i’d be able to move out of indiana
on an unrelated note, a couple in my ex’s neighborhood once flew a pride flag but their neighbors got mad so they replaced it with a flag of guy fieri that said “flavortown”
As a member of the LGBTQI community, I fully support changing our flag to Guy Fieri’s Flavourtown 🎉
I live in Florida and same, id just have to rive by a dealership and I’d get $100
Fellow hoosier here 🫡 I say that the only flag in corn country that could rival the American flag is the Confederate flag.
@@crow1247 way to announce your racism
@@foreverNwonder girl what? I'm not racist nor do I condone using the Confederate flag. I was saying that Indiana also has a ton of Confederate flags. Just like they have a ton of American flags. Jfc 🤦🏽
I'm truly devastated that they cut the bit where ben was like "look at my graphs look at my charts," that shit had me crying at work
he wants to be the look at this graph vine so bad
my starting word in wordle is ALWAYS fjord
it's not a good one according to objective facts, but i just *feel* in my *soul* that ONE DAY. the word will be fjord and i will be the only person in the world to get it on the first try
I believe in you!
My mom had a friend that would religiously put down the same lotto numbers every day, and one day she couldn’t get out to buy a ticket because of work. She asked her husband to buy the ticket for her.
He messed up one of the numbers.
The lottery pulled her usual numbers that night and she missed out on a mega-jackpot
could always be me. watch out.
"Let's just kiss."
"That's the final episode."
* HARD CUT * It's the cut that made me laugh.
What timestamp is that?😂
31:36
idk what jordan and jarvis put in these podcasts, but for some reason my ability to style cosplay wigs suddenly becomes like 8x better for no reason?? is this probably a coincidence? yes. am i still gonna put on this podcast every time i have to so much as pick up a can of hair spray? obviously.
just when I'm about to nap....I'll just play it and listen to it again when I'm awake
moood
Me rn😭
I DO THAT ALL THE TIME
Me when I’m at work 😭
i was watching this while falling asleep and replayd the parts i missed when i woke up lol
I’m 100% positive that the line at 48:55 was originally gonna be something like “You’d have to hate yourself as well because we’re both white dudes” to rhyme better with “That can’t be right dude” and then he changed it to “I’m you” but forgot to change the first line
President Garfield also got shot and absolutely would have survived if people hadn't tried to remove the bullet, because one of the ways they tried to find it was by using one of the world's first metal detectors to look for the bullet, but it was picking up on the metal of the springs in the bed so they were way, way off and just made everything worse.
The gunman actually tried to argue in his defense that the doctors were the ones who actually killed Garfield.
Teddy Roosevelt got shot (who served as President after McKinley), insisted that no one harm the guy who shot him even though many wanted to, and then when he was arrested, continued with his speech. He knew that since he didn't cough up blood the bullet didn't make it to his lungs, and figured he didn't have to rush to the doctors, so he did a 50 minute speech. They ended up not removing it bc they finally learned that it'd probably do more harm if they tried.
one time someone requested a tom macdonald song to play on my local radio station and the whole chat was like wow this is the best thing i've ever heard! and when i thought it couldn't get worse the munchkin himself calls into this albertan radio station to be like hey man as a canadian it's great to hear that my stuff is being played back at home. the host was so excited to talk to him and i felt like i was hallucinating
Of course it was alberta lmao
Which station holy shit, I’m also Albertan and I gotta know
He definitely called in and requested his own song 😂
@@aLime404 nowradio in edmonton! absolutely insane day
That would actually be kind of charming if this guy wasn't so fucking sad. Like basically everything he said in this song was just the rap equivalent of ,,I am not like other girls"
"dont be a wap" definitely wont when listening to this song damn
Him actually like he's ever seen a wap
you just know he thinks that line is sooo funny
@@dliap98I mean it is so funny just not in the way he thinks
@@Hecateofcrossroads very true
Ummm , wow your children will rule the world 😂
"Let's just agree that off mic... Your mic is on"
The real Woke Karen's are the friends we made along the way
The fact that Jarvis nailed that it was gonna be number one but the actual line from Ben was so much cringier than anything Jarvis suggested makes my day
Tom Mcdonald reminds me of those high school boys who's entire personality is being as edgy as possible and they think everyone loves it but really most people are just laughing because they're uncomfortable.
the kids who get mad when you don't laugh and act like you're offended... like sorry dude I just want to pay attention to class I don't care what you say (which makes them even madder)
"baby on board, my babys a gun" is a hilarious bumper sticker
I think the most ironic part about the song is that in the first verse, Tom says "But you ain't pro-gun, no one to protect it" and then a few lines later he says "we ain't pushing guns" like it's such an obvious contradiction it's insane
All 2A people are obsessed with guns until minorities get any
me having adhd is starting this video at 7 am and repeatedly forgetting im watching it, restarting, pausing it, going somewhere and here I am at 7pm with 30 minutes left still.
Real
felt, you're so valid for that
*also has adhd and has done this on multiple occasions*
Is. Is that an adhd thing.
Uh oh
@@t_boyswagz hah it might be! can't be defined by just that though, but if you do display more symptoms I'd look into getting an evaluation!
@@cameron2836 so real
as someone who has a family history of ass cancer, keep the death by butt illness coming because I was running out of jokes
The nega-chin thing cracked me up when I heard Liam O’Brian say a similar thing on Critical Role for the first time :’) had to go and listen back like 3 times to realise he was saying Nega and not just dropping the N word mid-dnd-game.
"reading aloud for the class flow" deserved a laugh
Perfect timing. I’ve been looking for something to listen to while playing Stardew Valley
THATS SO REAL
this was my stardew pod til i bricked my save file with time mods 😮💨
cn I play wu
meeeeee rn
HOLY SHIT SAME
In the USA dueling stopped after the Civil War since around 4% of the population died in it(mostly young men who would get in duels otherwise). It continued in Europe, slowly petering out until WWI at which point a TON of young men died and everyone decided not to encourage them to kill each other
Also most dueling was non lethal!
Actually it was fairly common for German and Austrian military academy students to duel each other and give each other super gnarly face scars, which is where the trope of Nazi officers with gross face scars comes from. The Nazis thought huge borderline disfiguring facial scars were hot, apparently
@@sideways5153I'm no nazi, but... I'm gonna have to agree that scars are hot. Maybe I just grew up simping for too many hot villains in media, lmao
@@sideways5153 Well it wasn't 'hot' so much as a signifier that you were from a class of people that had those scars.
TW gross body talk and eye stuff:
In regards to the eye depreciation talk, my brother's friend recently went to the optometrist and they told him his retinas were "hanging on by a thread" and they had to do emergency surgery. It's called retinal detachment and apparently it was caused by his massive growth spurt he had at the end of high school. Now he's mostly blind in one eye. Crazy
My mum has that (idk if it’s age related for her). In her case they can’t really do anything about it because she’s got multiple other eye issues impairing things. Sorry about your brother’s friend. Hopefully he’s adapting well.
@@genericname8727 yeah I think it's one of those things where there's not much you can do. The body just gets older :/ sorry about your mom. And I think he's doing alright! I appreciate it
Now have your brother convince his friend to do a solid snake fit
Omg that's awful!! My aunt had it happen to her a couple years ago, she had so many things happen to her she was the toughest person I know beating thyroid several skin and breast cancers, my mom said she had to drive to this doctors office and lay face down for hours at a time and eventually she was able to get it to reattach. I had NEVER heard of this before she went through it. I'm so so sorry your brothers friend had to go through that! Bless his heart
Im honestly convinced that both the Ben verses and the Ben appearances in the videos are just AI and Ben himself had no involvement other than approving it and getting a check
Honestly I’m just happy yall address and try to compensate misophonia at all! It really means a lot, all my life ppl think I’m being over dramatic and it doesn’t rly matter so it makes me happy that yall think about it ❤ and hey, it’s a podcast, it’s rly hard to avoid all mouth sounds just bc of the format! And ppl should know that going into it! Love yalllllll
I think they did a really good job masking it in this episode. I’m only 12 minutes in but I haven’t heard the usual mouth sounds that I’ve heard in the past.
People tend to dismiss our condition but it's so refreshing to see a creator actually vocalize validation for it!
jarvis.... i have never anyone acknowledge misophonia by name before and this was very heartening
he has on stream as well, giving misophonia warnings for when he’s gonna eat.
jarvis doesn’t personally affect my misophonia but it’s nice to see a content creator bring it up.
So if I smack my lips real loud y’all will crumble like a Marvel Symbiote?
I need to thank Ben Shapiro. My grandfather was in a coma for three years but when the nurse played Ben’s rap song, he got up to turn that shit off.
I think if you merged your faces you'd get Lionel Richie
Jarvis: Let's just kiss
Jordan: That's the final episode?
Hard cut to the next section.
I know it wasn't intentional but still really funny.
I just saw it and was cackling like a witch lmfao that was amazing
1:05:00 on the topic of Joe Biden and gender, when asked how many genders there are his answer was actually pretty based: "I don't know, at least 3"
Then, when asked to name them, said "don't play games with me kid"
@@TheProfessor230 Which is honestly a solid response. Most people who ask that question aren't actually interested in the answer - they just want to pick a fight.
I'm at the start so idk if they cover this but i think it would be funny to, from now on, refer to Ben as "Conservative Rapper Ben Shapiro"
Stealing this
i think rap is seen in a similar way to modern art, where the actual artistic ability is overlooked (especially by conservatives), and people go “well, i could do that.”
and then they do it and find out it actually takes skill, but are too proud to admit it’s bad. so we end up with things like this.
the worst part of the song for me was him calling himself a "caucasian rapper" like i know everyone means white when they say caucasian but that's one of my biggest icks 😭😭 as an armenian, i just want everyone to look at a map and stop equating people from the caucasus with white people it's so annoying, especially bc if this guy saw an actual caucasian person he would not think they're white lol
it's so real, like I am not Caucasian????
Just noticed this but jordan's gamecube tattoo is sick as hell
Jordan has tattoos? Maybe I should look at the screen more often🤔
i feel like kitboga, when things kind of get real and the person on the other end opens up to him about their conditions, is actually quite sympathetic. he often tries to give them advice, or words of comfort that things will look up for them, from what i've seen of him. i agree that he's in a very privileged position, and so his advice can only go so far when he isn't experiencing the world in the same way as these scammers, but i do think that he refrains from making fun of them or judging them whenever they get real with him. he usually matches their energy, giving respect and sympathy when respect is given to him. he acknowledges that a lot of scammers aren't exactly working at these centers because they want to - he just wants them to hopefully find work that isn't exploiting a vulnerable demographic of people halfway across the world.
"i ask myself, what would Ben do?" the tv screens... my hands shot up to cover my mouth in absolute shock. that was VISCERAL.
58:25 About the scamming question "can't they do a better job?" Idk the percentage but I'm sure a fair share of them are just incompetence, but in plenty of scams the shoddy quality can actually be a strategy to weed out the people who are careful not to fall for scams so that the people who buy in are genuinely gullible enough to just keep falling for the scam
I work in a restaurant and our kitchen manager constantly blasts nothing but Tom McDonald for HOURS straight. Literally I can't tell whether he's playing a mix of this guy's music or just the same 2 songs over and over again, but in any case it feels like an act of aggression I should bring up to hr
Oh jfc, you poor thing!!! I can't stand listening to country music, hearing it play in grocery stores just drives me up the wall, but at least I can leave. I don't think I could handle dealing with that, bless your heart!
You know , I feel like Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro didn’t get bullied enough as a kid
they’d probably be funny if they were
They’re the type to say the world needs more bullies, so I agree.
that's what I always think when I see these types of guys. like damn, you would NOT have done well in public school...
i think it’s the opposite. i think they were bullied too much, and this is the consequence.
we can still bully them now though.
also your comment implies that they were one child that morphed into two men. maybe that’s why they’re short, they’re each one half of a tall person.
it turns out that sometimes bullying is good
Tom Mcdonald has the Methhead look without doing drugs, it makes him bragging about not doing drugs extra sad.
Most of the other old members of Young Money are keeping quiet and focusing on their businesses.
Nicki mocking Megans feet cuz her shoes are already too big for her to fill at a decade+ younger lol.
Barbz be extra delusional these days.
👏 👏 👏
True but the ageism is gross
Literally the only reason I heard it as Nega-Chin in Fairly Odd Parents was because I was playing Sonic Rush and they had Nega-Eggman in it
fun fact: sometimes bloodletting is still a thing that is recommended for some diseases, the main one basically being Too Much Blood Disorder. also fun fact, in rare cases taking testosterone can cause the Too Much Blood Disorder so if you’re a trans man you could potentially be one of the few people in the world for whom bloodletting is actually medically sound
As a transmac with interest in medieval medicine, I see this as an absolute win
I swear why is it always women and then women who want to transition who have the hardest fxcking time? I doubt I'll ever get to transition :\
I'm a very new baseball card collector (I've actually been cataloging my collection while listening to the podcast), and the baseball card economy had its boom and bust in value before I was even born. With the way the market is now, you can't just be into it for the money. My collection is worth about as much as the amount of money I've put into it, give or take, and that's completely fine to me. If I was looking for ROI I'd get into the stock market. I got into baseball cards because I love baseball and I enjoy collecting things, and the community both online and in person is very passionate and polite and helpful. People collect things because they like the things, not just because of money. Most of my favorite cards in my collection are worth less than $1, and I'm completely fine with it. I like them for the players, or the pictures on the card, or the stories attached. If you only get into collectables because you want to make money, if/when the collectables lose their value, you're just gonna be stuck with some plastic or cardboard that you don't even care about on its own.
I'm into Bratz dolls and they have been trending recently. One of the most common complaints is scalpers grabbing dolls for cheap and trying to resell them for hundreds. Of course, nobody is buying. There are millions of naked plastic women selling for $10 each, which is how much they sold for brand new 20 years ago.
My ex liked Tom MacDonald for like 2 songs before she realised he wasn't doing it ironically.
I would like to recite a line from a Kabuto The Python track:
"If you a white kid nobody cares, there's about a million white rappers right over there"
Like, Tom, Thomas, Tommy Boy, Tomathan, you're not being bullied for being a white rapper, you're being bullied for being a white apologist.
And Ben's flow reminds me of what Brian David Gilbert called Educational Rap Flow (derogatory)
It took me weeks to get that “Asian girl” song out of my head after you guys covered it both individually and on the podcast, so I’m looking forward to this.
dosent ben think rap isnt real music? 😭
My thoughts exactly when I heard abt this
His rap is definitely not real music.
@@foreverNwonderI thought the same thing immediately when I saw this comment. 😂 Like, if this is what he thinks rap is of course he doesn't think it's real music.
@@zenleeparadise he could maybe do a collab with the fresh Prince to create the whitest cringey-est “music” possible??!
I'd think that too if I sounded like that lmao
The first song is the definition of "He don't know you lil bro"
Very excited for the "we stole a cops gun (gone crazy)" episode
1:06:58 can we talk about how Tom uses forced perspective to make himself look 6’5 in the mugshot scene 😂😂😂
“Reading out loud for the class flow😭😭😭😭”
This is so incredibly surface level observation bc getting into all the bullshit in that song is exhausting but like the ‘living w their parents’ line ben let’s not pretend your audience isn’t vast majority ppl who live w their parents as well
It’s such a pathetic attempt to own ppl imo bc it’s like if ppl have the means to live w their parents during the economic crisis we’re going through then that’s just more fiscally responsible, there’s also so many factors that it involves like disability and cultural norms that it’s just so boring to harp on
@20:09 i bought a box of random comics at this flea market booth that was closing up shop and she said 8 bucks for all other them and i said yes without looking at them. when i got home i got excited because they were all 1960s spiderman etc comics. i thought i hit the jackpot and then i looked closer and they were all 1980s reprints lol. still worth more than what i paid but relatable.
The misophonia comment really made me happy I don't usually have an issue with Jarvis content but I feel so seen😭
This podcast is perfect for silly lil goofy guys
4:30 oh boy jarvis. I'm 31 and my initial diagnosis was the same: 2020 vision but I need to make an effort to focus. Nowadays I'm just another regular glasses user with a prescription and having to go every year to check if I need to change the prescription (I always do lol). Godspeed my friend, people say you can delay the degenerative effect of age by doing exercises
Listening further. I'm a software engineer so it may be that I still work in frint of a screen 8 hours a day
Sad Boyz after therapy makes Fridays a good time :)
Oh my god thank you Jordon and Jarvis- I’m waiting for my number to be called at the social service office and I forgot the book I’d planned to bring at home. Nearly died but alas I am saved. Thank you.
6:08 Genuinely i have really really bad misophonia, but you guys don't bother me because of how much I like you. I don't know why thats a thing that happens but. I love you!
I literally just subscribed to the patreon to get more episodes and then this gets posted
Does that mean I’m subscribed too? Since I see this post?
True, I don't know if there is a difference between Sad Boyz Jarvis and Jordan and them on their respective UA-cam channels but I've been listening to the podcast every week from when you guys started posting regularly even though I don't keep up with your individual channels
you should try getting kitboga on the show sometime! i watch him pretty frequently and he seems so nice but i also completely agree with your concerns about the ethics of targeting those kinds of scammers. would love to hear you guys have a conversation with him on the ethical dilemas surrounding his work/that industry as a whole (esp in instances where his audience just… gets pretty racist with it which i think he’s pushed back on before)
In the live streams, comments about nationality, race, etc are strictly prohibited. I don't think they pay as much attention to the youtube comments, though.
Kitboga would be an amazing guest. Would be great to see where the conversation would go between them all. Kit's audience is usually very respectful because that's the example he puts out, but I've never watched the streams live though only later on his YT channels.
I do have to say that I absolutely disagree with what they said though, there is no excuse for scamming.
His comments often have one dude who just says the same racist stuff each time and he hasn't been banned yet
The scammers definitely know what they're doing, they're not just exploited workers working for an evil company.
Some do know what they’re doing and don’t care, and some are definitely exploited workers working for an evil company. They have different backgrounds. Most of them are not financially well off or in a position to seek a better source of income though, which is why they resort to these scams.
The scramming doesn’t pay as well as you might think typically. If they were just terrible individuals wanting to exploit the vulnerable for the sake of it, and they had opportunities for other forms of work, there’s plenty of other fields you can exploit people in while earning more money more consistently.
Exactly. Scammers = bad. Period. No excuses.
Sometimes I wish they'd look into some of this stuff before commenting but it's obviously hard because it's just how/where their convos flow.
Well many scammers actually are, a lot of them work in countries that are hounded by neocolonialism and are actively being pushed by western based companies into these positions. The main problem, like always, is capitalism
_of course_ they know what they're doing. these are not contradictory statements. you can do an evil job and/or at an evil company, know that, and still materially have to do that job in order to make ends meet.
many of these scam call centers also will threaten those who are working at them, or they will traffic people who then are stuck under the company's thumb. I've seen stories of places that would offer people work from out of the country and then trap them into having to work for them. which renders all criticism of such callers themselves moot.
the whole "being unable to do impressions of the people whose voices we hear the most" thing is very relatable and i've always wondered why that is!! i can mimic anybody's voice in the world but my brain is for some reason unable to process doing an impression of my parents
Parents? That one's easy for me! "NYEH NYEH NYEH" 😂
Natalie Portman's rap with Lonely Island is literally more "offensive" and better written than anything Old McDonald has put out
Know what makes me click on Sad Boyz and watch? Sad Boyz being uploaded. I can always count on yall to make my Saturday morning work paperwork less torturous : D
I got the whole song as an ad the other day. I’m pretty sure it’s been viewed a lot because they paid to get it viewed a lot
Apparently Eminem released a beat as an NFT and Tom bought it for $100k and that's what he used for the beat in dear slim. Which is crazy
Hey audio only listener here! This is so my comfort podcast for riding on the bus and it is GREAT for that purpose but I have a little issue. Idk anything about audio so I don’t know if you can fix this, but I always have trouble hearing Jordan with all the background noise on my commute but I can’t turn the volume up or Jarvis/the guest become too loud. Might be specific to me but I wanted to point it out :)
Jordan doing a Nigerian prince doing Friends is my new favorite bit. Please please imclude this in every episode going forward. Please. I need this.
“You’re Canadian you don’t have a culture.” Ouch. I mean it’s true but ouch. 😂
What the hell is poutine then 💔
@@h1d34w4y baby, poutine can only go so far I’m sorry
Shout out to y’all keeping me company every Friday night while I clean and make dinner so I don’t have to do anything on the weekend but play Pikmin and sleep
jordan is so duel pilled he's honestly upholding-my-honor-maxxing
1:51:04 also plenty of Indians(especially South Indians) are Christians with names like Joseph!
I think I got this from a hbomb video but scams intentionally don't want to be too convincing to self select for gullibility so as to make their job easier and filter out people who will waste their time
you did but this isn't just some internet factoid with no basis in reality-it's true.
one of my favorite things is when jor says something confidently unhinged they're going to do and jar goes "mmm no. no we're not"
bro tom macdonald looks like he was drawn in the 1960's comic book style
"With his reading aloud for the class flow" is devastating
0:14 I quite literally may never recover from this.
didn't notice until watching this that Tom had the mugshot prop show him as over 6 foot
You can gauge Jordan’s well being by how much he talks about dying in a duel.
So interesting to hear about metazoo. I went to the 2023 mothman festival and apparently it was partially funded by meta zoo and there was a meta zoo card competition. I didn't go to it and I didn't hear about it at all throughout the weekend, but on the last day there were people handing out packets of metazoo cards just for free. Me and my friend both got one packet and that's honestly the only reason I still remember them.
The fact that the beekeeper organization has nothing with beekeeping is giving Ben 10 Plummer vibes
I'm gonna need more of Jordan's "Trump using early 2000s internet lingo" bit from around 1:30:00. That's a STRONG bit.
Very sincerely, this episode is SO much better for misophonia. I appreciate you so much.
As a mexican man myself born mixed, and raised by a white family who also claimed rap is garbage music and isnt real music, this is the first kind of rap i found when i started exploring my music taste. I thought his stuff was amazing because i hadnt found actually good artists. Once i found people like DOOM and J.i.d and cole and kendrick, this guy became a relic of my very shitty taste. His audience is kids like i was, dont wanna engage with critically acclaimed hip hop, and old people who are just conservatives.
Extremely lost, i don't consume much american media or USA stuff but, isn't Tom Macdonald a farmer?
*laughs in American* you might be thinking of "Old MacDonald" which is a children's song. "Old MacDonald had a farm, ee ii ee ii oh, and on that farm he had a [insert farm animal here] ee ii ee ii oh, with a [insert correlating farm animal sound here] and a- (you get the point) but that's what I think of when I hear Tom MacDonald 😂😂😂😂😂
i just got on and was like.. i wonder if sad boyz have uploaded.. and HERE WE ARE
As a kid, I used to get these creature cards from an educational subscription. Weird and Wild Creatures, maybe? Those were cool because I was a nerd. I think those would have more clout than Metazoo.
Oh my god, I thought I was the only one! I got them from my NatGeo Kids magazines as a kid...