Ummmm I don't know what number she's referencing at the end but minimum individual tax rate in Finland is NOT 25%. The rates are based on income, so if you have little income, your tax rate is close to zero, but in the higher income figures you're paying a higher percentage.
I live and pay taxes in Finland and It's never felt too much.. It's worth it cause I got free health care, education and when I turned 18 I got apartment and money monthly so I can study. So I don't see any problem paying "high taxes"
But you're paying it in vain. This system is a house of cards. We have been chained into debt and before we are rid of EU and euro, the debt is only going to get worse until this country will be sold piece by piece - without even pretending anything else anymore.
@@normaaliihminen722 Oletan et puhut suomee sun nimestä. olen opiskelija yliopistossa sen takia en ole töissä. Kun siirryn työ elämään saan maksaa paljon veroja jotka maksan ihan onnellisena koska ne makso mun tien siihen ammattiin.
@@lilianag167 Useat yliopistossa opiskelijat jota itse tiedän lähipiiristä tekevät töitä opintojen ohella (suurinmaks osaksi keikkatöitä). Vaikka maksaisit myöhemmissä elämänvaihessa veroja. Se ei silti poista velkataakkaa jota ihmiset sinun tilanteissa aiheuttaa joka päivä. Korkealla vero% ei luoda kansaa rikkaammaksi päin vastoin se de-motivoi perusduunareita menestyä omalla alalla. Jotta välttyisin esseen kirjoittamisesta niin uteliaisuutena kysyisin oletko katsonut sinun alasi työllisyyttä?
It brings tears to my eyes to think that in the midst of global depression in 1938, when Finland was practically a developing country, the timid, practical, no fuss Finns came up with the idea to help families with a free baby box. And that they have kept doing it for 80 years. I have received it 3 times and its always been a delight. When there is a will, there always seems to be a way to be caring and generous
@@antkeeper6276 But she was. After the VAT sales tax that she mentioned which is 24% here, she says that she has been reading that the individual tax rate minimum is 25%, which is false. Why I say it's false is because I pay 22% and when I was working summer jobs while studying I paid only 7-9% income tax.
Yes, human rights shouldnt But any services cant be free. Someone is gonna pay anyway because we cant run voluntary healthcare since everyone got to eat and have roof. 🙄
@@holokyttaja5476 No, at least the refugees get more if they can stay in Finland. It would be interesting to know how long the refugee status will continue. The social securite can give the refugees discretionary support. It is very hard to get to know how much they get this kind of social aid. The statistics of this is not detailed. It is possible to pay if the number or refugees is low and Finland is getting loan from abroad to these insane expenditures.
@@juusopiirainen5119 Miten ovat pakolaiset työllistyneet? Mitkähän mahtavat olla näiden uuden aallon valepakolaisten työllistymismahdollisuudet? Kovasti noissakin on eroa, osa ei osaa edes lukea. Vaikka pakolaiset työllistyisivätkin, niin iso osa on hyvin pienellä palkalla töissä, jolloin käyttää asumistukea ja jopa sossurahaa. Nettohyöty noista on suurimmaksi osaksi negatiivinen, saavat enemmän tukia kuin maksavat veroja. Paljonkohan Ruotsi satsasi suomalaisiin, jotka menivät oikeaan työvoimatarpeeseen 60- ja 70-luvuilla?
It's amazing. I love it here in Finland and it traumatises me to think of how crazy health care is America. It's a complete turn off when I think of the poor people in a America. Thank you so much Suomi! It's a fair system I agree. When you look at how many deaths are caused by lack of funds.
One reason healthcare is so affordable in Finland is that we offer less unnecessary treatment to patients. In the US a rich woman giving birth in a private hospital can use up a lot of resources by always having a doctor in the room, having a C-section she does not need etc. Meanwhile the women who are poor are left with less resources and many die in childbirth. In Finland you mostly get the healthcare you need, and nothing more. Normal deliveries are handled by skilled midwife-nurses and doctors get involved only if there are complications. The rate of C-sections is much lover than in the US. This "socialist system" saves money and lives.
people wanting luxury hospitals is not the reason u.s. healthcare is expensive. luxury hospitals do not pass the bills onto everyone else... thats not how it works. the reason u.s. healthcare is expensive is because there is little competition between hospitals. a few people hold a monopoly on all hospitals and can charge whatever they like
That is a good point, @@texasgun2731! However I've gotten the impression that US hospitals and doctors also perform more medical testing than necessary and talk patients into accepting treatments and surgeries that they could do without. I'll use C-sections as an example since it's well known that the number of C-sections performed in the US is out of proportion to the actual need. By performing a lot of C-sections AND over-charging for it US hospitals are making good money. C-sections are mostly covered by insurance and this makes insurance more expensive to everyone.
@@texasgun2731 Actually luxury hospitals do pass bills to others via the market. Lots of demand for unnecessary testing and procedures raises up the price of those services and creates the opaque culture of pricing in US hospitals. Doctors then even in the poor neighbourhoods would be aware they can charge high untransparent prices for routine procedures because of the overall culture of bad incentives for doctors. This is why Medicare fraud is such a big deal and easy in many cases. Doctors giving out prescriptions and tests for seniors that don't need it and charging high prices for it is a natural result of the system starting from luxury hospitals on one hand which are the most extreme at the top going down to the poorest hospitals where doctors control so much of the billing procedure.
Irishman from Sweden with three boys. 480 days parent leave. 240 per parent (you can sign over some of those days to your partner if desired). Per parent (240days), for the first 195 days you get up to 80% of your wages, and then about the equivalent of 15 dollar for the remainder (45days) but this can be taken out on weekends to encourage extra activities. All this is available until the child is eight years old. This is the system Bernie references to so remember to vote.
What are the comparable rates of single parents? Also those who do not work and are being suported by the govt? I would like to see how that equates before I am sold.
Mikey Durden they could go and experience a non-democratic country as they have the time to go through the entire experience of political ideologies? If they are, that is, egotistically inclined as you suggest.
The US has a HUGE non working, single parent population so that would require more than 80% of your wages to subsidize for everyone. Its a numbers game. Its sounds great but I dont see how it could it could compare to the US. Govt funds= taxpayers. I will have to look into Swedens/Finlands non working population to see the difference.
@@thrillyria You are living in a lala land. I guess if we dont defend our borders or maintain our military, then no one will invade our borders? Look at Kuwait. They got invaded by Iraq, or don't you remember? How about WW1, or WW2? I guess we should get rid of our military, riiiight?
Understanding why birth rate is low requires knowledge of a couple of facts: firstly, we are highly educated (we think about the long term impacts of having kids and few have kids during their studies). Moreover, we often want monetary safety just as much as the next one and young people struggle to get permanent or even long fixed term employment contracts, but we’d like them so we can have that paid maternal leave and have a work place to come back to. Some patriarchal bias remains in the hiring system in some companies, i.e. hiring young women for permanent employment is not preferred. But luckily not in all of them :)
In Finland the death rate is higher than the birth rate. The Finns can't breed and hate foreigners who do. Alcoholism, Loneliness, Depression, Racism and Suicide are turning this country into a Jurassic museum. In 15 years, Finland will not have enough workers to pay for the pension of retired people.This the truth the Finns hate to talk about in public. Natural selection is working against the Finns...
It's nice that it's both Finnish and American. Like Emma, but a little less common. I'm Finnish but the first thing that comes to mind when hearing the name is Ella Fitzgerald, and I love her! 😊
Here in Germany health Insurance is 14% of your salary and that covers about every medical care. Each parent has 1 year paid maternity/ partenity leave. And get about 190€ monthly child benefit for 18years.
The key issue here, if you make more money in Finland you pay more so there is more to spend. Try to make the rich and famous here to pay more and see where it goes. They will be calling their buddies in DC and getting fixed for good.
Yeah but we have similar problems in Finland also, the rich use every trick in the book to lessen their tax burden, or just move to other countries with lower taxes. Taxing the rich is not a solution, nor is taxing the companies.
@@tangerinelover69 I can assure you that the rich aren't going to die if their tax procent is higher than poorer people. Even with the high taxe rates of Finland the rich can live happily with no financial worries and get better, more expensive things than the poor. We have to get the money from somewhere if we want to maintain the high standards of living for everyone. It's just the human greed that makes you want more and more even thought you don't need it. Just the thought that tens of thousands are taken from YOUR potential wealth sounds unfair even if you had no other financial worries that the poor have.
@@jokuvaan5175 if you tax the rich to death, how do you think companies will expand when they have no money because of outrageously high taxes. Government programs won't create jobs for the people.
In Sweden we have the same but we have 12 months paid leave which one parent must do at least 3 of them. "Socialist" Scandinavia is a great place to live, except the weather
Seasonal change is good. Real one. When winter actually has snow, autumn - yellow leaves, and spring - chorus of singing birds. Not the kind of "seasons" they have in the south
@@fjalls Sweden is way more evolved and sophisticated than Finland. Swedish economy is way better, Swedish population growth is stable. Finland has become like a kindergarden for old people and alcoholics. They can't even make a football team.
Tax rates rise and getlower depending on salary. Also the tax is not used only in child systems but also free healthcare, free schools, paid university studies and many more free systems which we have.
I'm British a single father trapped in Finland. Women and kids can have a great life in Finland. Unfortunetely for immigrant fathers they do not like us. My daughter lives with me fulltime and mother has like 5% visitation time even though we live on same street! Yet that is equal custody and I am trapped in a foreign country. But they refuse to allow let me study or work (Even though I legally can), it's a battle to be allowed to have any freedom in Finland for me. But I try do my best raising my lil daughter by myself. My life may be ruined by Finland but aslong as I struggle through things my daughter can have a good life in Finland.
@@aki3774 When I came to Finland they made me fly back to England to get copies of my qualifications from colleges/universities etc, Then said they don't recognise British degrees (They clearly should) then disposed of the copies. They said all paperwork for studies, work etc has to be agreed thought T-E Office(Jobcentre) before I could start, They take 2-3 months to reply to calls or emails, so when my daughter was just born I started a course which I applied for myself and 2 months into course they said because they didn't put the application in instead of me they stopped all my student income for 2 months. Even now 7 years on after 2 years of asking for a meeting I got one, yet they refuse to say if I am allowed to do a specific course, 3 meetings later still say they don't know yet don't know who else to ask for me. Being a single father It's expensive living here yet can I keep taking risk of starting courses, work etc to them have all my paperwork cancelled again and struggle! Every month paperwork is a big issue, I tell them they need information, they refuse to take it saying don't want it, then end of month stop my income because they really did need what I said. Never ending battle.
I also allowed Finnish people to do things on my behalf (Because they think I'm just lazy or language barrier) Yet they realised it was same for them waiting months for an email back or phone call etc. It sounds unbelievable so much crap can happen to one person, but when you get involved you soon see it really is true! Even the courts when went for custody the judge told me first moment met me "Because your British I'm not letting anything go your way" To which he even said in court "my daughter welfare is not important" Great country but system has many many flaws.
@@JJ-Malone Well I don't think you can blame them for requiring qualifications for your degree. What body do you mean by "they"? But I agree the TE office is a mess. Any case, I believe official recognition of foreign degrees is done through the national board of education, not TE-toimisto. www.oph.fi/english/services/recognition
@@aki3774 Oh I don't blame for requiring qualifications, Its that I flew to another country for them to refuse them when legally they have to accept them. Seems everyone at T-E office knows nothing. Yes but in order to get any student income T-E office has to accept that I am on the right course. They have to tell Kela that they are allowed to issue it to me. Which then causes so much problems With Kela when they are just as bad lol, Well the system is bad, the actual staff in office at Kela hate the system they have to go by themselves.
@George Kushtrue, that our healtcare reform did collapse, but , just to make sure that everyone understand, it failure had no huge effect on normal every day life nor the services provided to citizens. Reform was not just about healtcare but it included many other difficult factors like creating new provinces in Finland and to create new administrations to handle and run many goverment operations locally, like regional state administrative agencies etc. What comes to healtcare reform, the idea was to transfer public healtcare responsibilities from cities to new 18 provinces. The model had it goods and flaws. The current (old) system is based on hospital districts that we have 20 and every of these twenty district has their own member cities/towns behind. It is like if all those ten regions of New York State would be like our 20 healthcare district and inside of that region/district one operator takes care that all healthcare services are provided to everyone. The current model has its winners and losers as would have had with this reform one also. It is not issue to big cities like Helsinki area, where is lots of tax payers, but in less populated areas, the burden of running cost for Healtcare comes issue. There is also a lot of politics involved on matter (do we wanna keep whole Finland populated and offering all services cross the country as good Welfare State) and If the proposed model would have come on effect, cost would have still being paid with taxes but for state, not cities/towns. Also as I said, in Finland we have areas where the reform would have had negative effects as there was considered some hopspitals would have closed the doors and services would have been focused on "hubs". Also perhaps not every type operation would have been offered in every hub. Interestingly the biggest and most powerful Healthcare districts was the most prominent critic and against the new model. I would like to think that also those less populatated towns, which currently run hospital services (which might be expensive for them in economical viewpoint) could be sure and not to worry that would they loose they local hospitals (better local service). So summa summarum, in healthcare matter it was about economics; who collects the money and who provides the service and by which rules the service is provided and to whom. Maybe it would have had better cost performance, but not sure about the quality of service that it would have generated locally. And as I said, healthcare was just one part of this huge governance reform. Maybe failure is wrong word. I would say that proposed new model was not liked by majority. Sometimes reforms are not better than old systems when looking bigger picture. It does not mean, that Healthcare reform would not happen some day in Finland, but atleast not with the model that was proposed and rejected.
The reason why hospitals are so expensive is because of insurance companies a simplified version is that hospitals used to charge a reasonable amount of money but then they struck a deal with insurance companies so that they would jack up prices and the only way a normal person would be able to afford them was medical insurance so that it would appear that medical insurance was covering a huge amount
Which hospital in the USA that only charges new mother $12,290 USD for the birth of her newborn baby? I gave birth to my daughter in 2012 and was handed a bill for over $50,000 USD when I left the hospital. There was no complication in the birthing process and no special need or care either. It was a quick in and out of the hospital in 3 days.
the government drives up the cost of healthcare. there is no free market to reign in what these hospitals are charging. the same goes for college education.
US is able to do the same! It is simply a matter of having that courage, of trying something new. If you get value for your money, then how can you call tax too high?
In Finland people funding all that "easy living" by themselves. 24% sales tax is only tip of the iceberg. Filled up my car yesterday and it was 1.62 EUR /liter. Put it another way: 1 gal = 3.79 liter. 3.79 x 1.62 eur = 6.13 EUR / gallon. Eq. $6.93/gallon. That's Finland. There is no such thing like a free lunch.
My american friend have two beautiful children, both of them born in Mexico...(she live in California), she said that the delivery and hospital expenses cost her less than $1,000 and with all her extra expenses (hotel, travel, food) is no more than $1, 800 per child...
We do pay high taxes here but they're not as high as in most European countries. And income is anyway high enough that after taxes we still have more than in most countries around the world including the US.
I believe it. I don't have insurance because my part-time job doesn't offer it and I'm too poor to afford to pay a monthly premium. I unfortunately had to go to the ER in March because I thought I had COVID and felt deathly ill… I was there for about _two_ hours and now I'm stuck with a $7,004 bill that I cannot pay. I get my high blood pressure medicine from Mexico, I also went there to get my wisdom teeth removed for a grand total of $120 while here the quote I received was for over 1000. Inability to pay was the reason that when I broke my ankle in 2012, I decided to grin and bear it rather than go to the hospital for a cast.
Dear CBS. Hello from Finland! Your facts, sorry "facts" need some serious checking. I understand that in your country things need to be simplified and oversized but facts remain.
For decades this has worked quite well. But all the expenses are getting up, "great generation" is getting old and they need more healthcare, also tens of thousands of new immigrants and refugees need healthcare... our tax money is not gonna be enough. Our government has to take billiions of loan every year to cover the public costs. So now they try to move health care as much as possibile to the private sector. So we are basically following the american way.
It's actually worse for us than the Americans. At least the bank that is draining them dry is in their own continent and they have their own money. Ours is a far away country, with layers of bureaucrats and corruption between and a currency that was forced to us without the will of the people. We have been annexed to an European federal union without our consent and against our constitution.
Listen, I understand the black mom. I had my first child in 12/21/2019 and my physician assistant was so rude to me! So much so that she decided to apologize to me after stitching me up. I guess she felt like I would report her. The doctor leading my delivery was frustrated that I was ready to push at 1:21 AM. Coming in the room huffing and puffing and irritated.
Yes the Nordic model has been serving these low population, relatively isolated countries well. No, you cannot just take the same model and apply on different countries with different problems. The Nordic model is already running into problems just trying to withstand the recent immigration trend. We are not so isolated now. Suddenly there are "big country problems" in Finland. This is not something the economic system was designed to handle. Obviously premium social care cannot be continued while the recipients keep adding up. Similar model for the US would require immense economic restructuring. And it would be risky and unstable. Unconstitutional, volatile. Some business and property owners might mass migrate out of US. Lots of people would not agree on this kind of change, and they have that right of course. Surely for the best.
Doctor's appointment: € 20.90The fee will be charged for the first three (3) visits per calendar year If you visit a nurse it is 12,20€ I know it is really cheap for a working person but to me it is one days eating money. And for example I get an unemployment payment of 625€ a month I know it sounds a lot to some people but after rent and electricity and water will leave me with about 200€ per month. Oh and even and studying in Finland is not completely free either ! I don't get where people get these idea's that everything is free in Nordic countrys...
and i hear people complaining about taxes here in finland ofc its high taxes when there is almost free healthcare and free schoolsystem. but ofc you cant please everyone
Yeah its called fair taxes for the greater good. They pay reasonable taxes so that everyone, including themselves, receives the best care. Sounds pretty logical to me.
Does they guy say at the end that we have 15 million people uninsured? That's about triple the size of our population, so it just shows how much research he did on this topic :) And no, obviously we have insurances...
CBO estimated the number of uninsured at 27 million in 2016 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_coverage_in_the_United_States#Estimates_of_the_number_of_uninsured
This is what a real socialist democracy looks like. Americans have been fooled to believe anything with the word socialist is really bad hence the people overlook forced bankruptcy due to medical bills, unsustainable college debt and high crime in part due to income inequality. I was in the hospital in Sweden for almost a month and my total bill was 66 dollars which included my hospital stay, treatment and medicine. Since moving to Sweden my income tax rate is a little higher compared to what i use to pay in the US but the benefits is a lot more than the negatives. By the way, Sweden like most European countries is also a Socialist democracy. Americans please wake the up out of your sleep and see the current political system in the US only benefits a small percentage of the population.
Finland literally collapsed just now, their entire government had to resign because they are broke. They are on their way to be Venezuela 2.0 in matter of days.
I almost died after being left alone for 4 hours during a medical emergency in a hospital. The Black moms was making a point that is hardly spoken off in the USA.
As a Finn, I have to step in to tell about the reality as well as most Finns here are either lying about the current system or misleading. First of all, all those "25% income tax is average" comments are misleading. They don't take into account other taxes and mandatory payments such as pensions that no one under 40 yo will ever see again. So basically you can add 10% more to those "average" numbers. Also the average taxes themselves don't matter because that "average" tax percentage mentioned is already applied to people with really low income, so even if it would be average you would be literally living hand-to-mouth. If you can actually afford to buy some nice things in life or invest in hobbies and maybe sometimes go travelling abroad, you'll be paying 40-50% income tax or more. Also because of the steep progression, marginal tax percentage goes above 50% meaning very quickly meaning in practice that if you earn more than 3600e/month, for any salary increase you get after that, you will actually get less than 50%. Then the real payments for each person's salary are much higher than when you take into account employer's costs. For example if you want to have 2000e on you bank account at the end of the month, your employer has to pay almost 5000e for that. You might think that it does not concern you, but it does because the extremely high taxation not only makes it impossible and hard for many companies to invest in Finland => less job, it also makes it impossible for companies to reward hardworking people as they are the ones who end up paying the bills for everyone. Everything else is also extremely expensive and taxes are incredibly high for every single thing (VAT, gasoline, cars, alcohol, you name it etc.). The purchasing power in Finland is one of the lowest in first world countries. Funnies thing is that even with all those taxes the system is unable to support the Finnish society, but instead Finland is taking huge amounts of debt on top of that so that people can keep on living in the fake reality. If you are a parasite who doesn't want to work and just wants free things then Finland is great place to live until the whole society collapses. All the smart, educated and hardworking people are already moving out. This is known as "aivovuoto" in Finnish media and public discussions. Feel free to google it. Even the Ministry of Finance (National Treasury) announced just a month or two ago that current system cannot maintain itself and the extreme cuts in speding (= all those "free" services) are required immediately. But this doesn't concern your average Finn. They are just repeating "WE HAVE A FREE HEALTHCARE! ALL IS FINE" in an endless loop. I'm not trying to support or defend American system, but just wanted to clarify things since there is lot of lies and misinformation being spread.
Minimal taxes ARE NOT 25%! My taxes are currently 0% cos I am only working in the summer, and the highest they have been was 9% when I was working in a job with minimal wage.
Publicly funded hospital care such as this, intended for pregnant mothers and delivering their babies is an absolute perk, but just as is always typical for these types of “look-at-how-much-better-Scandinavia-is-videos”, they use the word “free” a little too loosely. We have an insane tax burden and are still taking on government debt at a rate that is going to make Greece look like a picnic unless reversed. The effective tax rate on an average sales level employee is actually over 50%, but that is hidden by a bunch of clever antics on the bookkeeping side of things. Most of the income tax is paid by the employer in Finland, not by the employee, so we can have a nominally nice sounding tax rate of ~15-20% for someone making roughly 30k a year. When you add the cost of living and a VAT of 24% to nearly everything, you begin to understand things a little better...
Yep. It's even worse now with all these "refugees" we are getting. They invade our country and make us pay for it. voiceofeurope.com/2019/03/a-single-somali-migrant-costs-the-finnish-state-almost-1-million-euros-during-their-lifetime/
What needs to happen in the US is to become a federal country. Doctors in Finland work for the country which means they get paid less than Americans. Teachers also earn less in Finland all this add up. Will not happen in America universities love money and like getting students in debt
Greetings from Finland, I know a couple of women who actually went abroad to give birth to their children as the hospitals & the personnel here have a bad reputation for a reason.
7 Finnish healthcare sucks, according to some Finnish friends of mine, that‘s all I said. But calling me a liar, well, let‘s just hope you‘ll receive bad treatment yourself.
@@JormaKovanen well there's always social support and the layette. But yeah I played it safe and said 20 000€ but it can easily be more if you go beyond the essential needs.
Ummmm I don't know what number she's referencing at the end but minimum individual tax rate in Finland is NOT 25%. The rates are based on income, so if you have little income, your tax rate is close to zero, but in the higher income figures you're paying a higher percentage.
Yeah noticed the same, the AVERAGE income tax is somewhere around 25%, not the minimun.
Excactly. My tax rate is 2%😂😂😂
@@Bruh-jr2ep LOL WTF. I want that 2% king status too...
40k/y 20% and 200k/y 55%
Tax rates aren’t maybe that high but they are taking the other half from your employer that makes Finland tax rates between 25% to 67%
I live and pay taxes in Finland and It's never felt too much.. It's worth it cause I got free health care, education and when I turned 18 I got apartment and money monthly so I can study. So I don't see any problem paying "high taxes"
But you're paying it in vain. This system is a house of cards. We have been chained into debt and before we are rid of EU and euro, the debt is only going to get worse until this country will be sold piece by piece - without even pretending anything else anymore.
This is why Finland’s debt is so high because people like you are not working you expect nanny state to give you all benefits.
@@normaaliihminen722 Oletan et puhut suomee sun nimestä. olen opiskelija yliopistossa sen takia en ole töissä. Kun siirryn työ elämään saan maksaa paljon veroja jotka maksan ihan onnellisena koska ne makso mun tien siihen ammattiin.
@@lilianag167 Ei nuo amikset tajua ettei lukiosta saatana pääse samantien töihi vaan pitää käydä vielä amk tai lipasto
@@lilianag167 Useat yliopistossa opiskelijat jota itse tiedän lähipiiristä tekevät töitä opintojen ohella (suurinmaks osaksi keikkatöitä). Vaikka maksaisit myöhemmissä elämänvaihessa veroja. Se ei silti poista velkataakkaa jota ihmiset sinun tilanteissa aiheuttaa joka päivä. Korkealla vero% ei luoda kansaa rikkaammaksi päin vastoin se de-motivoi perusduunareita menestyä omalla alalla. Jotta välttyisin esseen kirjoittamisesta niin uteliaisuutena kysyisin oletko katsonut sinun alasi työllisyyttä?
It brings tears to my eyes to think that in the midst of global depression in 1938, when Finland was practically a developing country, the timid, practical, no fuss Finns came up with the idea to help families with a free baby box. And that they have kept doing it for 80 years. I have received it 3 times and its always been a delight. When there is a will, there always seems to be a way to be caring and generous
Tuli jo tippa linssin. Ja vielä miehenä. On meillä asiat aika hyvin vaikka aina on parannettavaa
25% tax is not the minium. That’s about average, but it depends on the indivituals income. ☝️☝️
"Sales tax" 24%, basically if there is a product for 100€, in finland goverment taxes it so the price is 124€. She wasn't talking about income tax.
@@antkeeper6276 But she was. After the VAT sales tax that she mentioned which is 24% here, she says that she has been reading that the individual tax rate minimum is 25%, which is false. Why I say it's false is because I pay 22% and when I was working summer jobs while studying I paid only 7-9% income tax.
24% alv for everyday produkts..14% alv services and 10%alv is some cases..but these are NOT tax from salary...
@@antkeeper6276 You are something of a keeper - for a person who wants to take care of you, of course.
Human rights should never cost anything.
Unfortunately that would be impossible
Yes, human rights shouldnt But any services cant be free. Someone is gonna pay anyway because we cant run voluntary healthcare since everyone got to eat and have roof. 🙄
@LPS IITU ja linnea videot No they don't. Stop believing everything you see on facebook
@@holokyttaja5476 No, at least the refugees get more if they can stay in Finland. It would be interesting to know how long the refugee status will continue. The social securite can give the refugees discretionary support. It is very hard to get to know how much they get this kind of social aid. The statistics of this is not detailed. It is possible to pay if the number or refugees is low and Finland is getting loan from abroad to these insane expenditures.
@@juusopiirainen5119 Miten ovat pakolaiset työllistyneet? Mitkähän mahtavat olla näiden uuden aallon valepakolaisten työllistymismahdollisuudet? Kovasti noissakin on eroa, osa ei osaa edes lukea. Vaikka pakolaiset työllistyisivätkin, niin iso osa on hyvin pienellä palkalla töissä, jolloin käyttää asumistukea ja jopa sossurahaa. Nettohyöty noista on suurimmaksi osaksi negatiivinen, saavat enemmän tukia kuin maksavat veroja.
Paljonkohan Ruotsi satsasi suomalaisiin, jotka menivät oikeaan työvoimatarpeeseen 60- ja 70-luvuilla?
It's amazing. I love it here in Finland and it traumatises me to think of how crazy health care is America. It's a complete turn off when I think of the poor people in a America. Thank you so much Suomi! It's a fair system I agree. When you look at how many deaths are caused by lack of funds.
Not that great after you see all of the taxes we have to pay
@@holokyttaja5476 pretty great when u get for example free education and health care in return
@@gregthedon9067 Melkein liittyi aiheeseen :D
What part of Finland?
@@gregthedon9067 correct. Finland is a little racist. But most are not.
Time for me to pack my bags to Finland.
Lol right
I am next on line haha
You're welcomed here :)
Yes good idea this country is really good place come here
Hi ho hi ho off to Finland I go
Finns live in this forest together. And together we rake it to make it a better place for all!
😂
You gotta rake the forest.. otherwise it burns.
There is already very low birth rate in Finland. If giving a birth would cost that much in Finland we would die off from the planet.
True. But don't worry! There will be a lot of Somalis, Vietnamese and Middle-Eastern people left in Finland after all the Finns are gone :)
@@Sharnoy1 Why are you saying that like it's a bad thing?
@@user-bu5ok2mj5c What makes you think that?
@@Sharnoy1 Well alot of reasons. For an exampel adding the ":)".
@@user-bu5ok2mj5c So what you are saying is, a smiley face in text means the writer things the text is about a bad thing? :)
One reason healthcare is so affordable in Finland is that we offer less unnecessary treatment to patients. In the US a rich woman giving birth in a private hospital can use up a lot of resources by always having a doctor in the room, having a C-section she does not need etc. Meanwhile the women who are poor are left with less resources and many die in childbirth.
In Finland you mostly get the healthcare you need, and nothing more. Normal deliveries are handled by skilled midwife-nurses and doctors get involved only if there are complications. The rate of C-sections is much lover than in the US. This "socialist system" saves money and lives.
I had "myyräkuume" (internet says its epidemic nephropathy) and was 2 nights at healthcare.
Basically a 6 star hotel and costs like 20€ per night.
people wanting luxury hospitals is not the reason u.s. healthcare is expensive. luxury hospitals do not pass the bills onto everyone else... thats not how it works. the reason u.s. healthcare is expensive is because there is little competition between hospitals. a few people hold a monopoly on all hospitals and can charge whatever they like
That is a good point, @@texasgun2731! However I've gotten the impression that US hospitals and doctors also perform more medical testing than necessary and talk patients into accepting treatments and surgeries that they could do without.
I'll use C-sections as an example since it's well known that the number of C-sections performed in the US is out of proportion to the actual need. By performing a lot of C-sections AND over-charging for it US hospitals are making good money. C-sections are mostly covered by insurance and this makes insurance more expensive to everyone.
@@texasgun2731 Actually luxury hospitals do pass bills to others via the market. Lots of demand for unnecessary testing and procedures raises up the price of those services and creates the opaque culture of pricing in US hospitals. Doctors then even in the poor neighbourhoods would be aware they can charge high untransparent prices for routine procedures because of the overall culture of bad incentives for doctors. This is why Medicare fraud is such a big deal and easy in many cases. Doctors giving out prescriptions and tests for seniors that don't need it and charging high prices for it is a natural result of the system starting from luxury hospitals on one hand which are the most extreme at the top going down to the poorest hospitals where doctors control so much of the billing procedure.
Real deep. i like the thought
A sense of sharing among the rich and lower earners. Hope Africa becomes like this one day.
Irishman from Sweden with three boys. 480 days parent leave. 240 per parent (you can sign over some of those days to your partner if desired). Per parent (240days), for the first 195 days you get up to 80% of your wages, and then about the equivalent of 15 dollar for the remainder (45days) but this can be taken out on weekends to encourage extra activities. All this is available until the child is eight years old. This is the system Bernie references to so remember to vote.
What are the comparable rates of single parents? Also those who do not work and are being suported by the govt? I would like to see how that equates before I am sold.
hs1athome my job in not to sell an ideology but to describe a reality. Your move
@@damien884 I think people who don't have kids need more vacation time or some benefits too for costing the country less.
Mikey Durden they could go and experience a non-democratic country as they have the time to go through the entire experience of political ideologies? If they are, that is, egotistically inclined as you suggest.
The US has a HUGE non working, single parent population so that would require more than 80% of your wages to subsidize for everyone. Its a numbers game. Its sounds great but I dont see how it could it could compare to the US. Govt funds= taxpayers. I will have to look into Swedens/Finlands non working population to see the difference.
I wouldn’t mind so much about the cost here in the U.S. if the care was as good as in Finland. 😢
Well, maybe you shouldn't either... 😉
@Tax-bitchass biyatch perhaps you should consider stop playing world police...
@Tax-bitchass biyatch Haha! You haven't saved us from anything.
If You don`t have the money, You WILL MIND .................
@@thrillyria You are living in a lala land. I guess if we dont defend our borders or maintain our military, then no one will invade our borders? Look at Kuwait. They got invaded by Iraq, or don't you remember? How about WW1, or WW2? I guess we should get rid of our military, riiiight?
I'm proud of my country. ☺
Understanding why birth rate is low requires knowledge of a couple of facts: firstly, we are highly educated (we think about the long term impacts of having kids and few have kids during their studies). Moreover, we often want monetary safety just as much as the next one and young people struggle to get permanent or even long fixed term employment contracts, but we’d like them so we can have that paid maternal leave and have a work place to come back to. Some patriarchal bias remains in the hiring system in some companies, i.e. hiring young women for permanent employment is not preferred. But luckily not in all of them :)
The birth rate is low mainly because indigenous Finns are purposefully being made scared for the future.
And also, people are getting married.. you know what that means
@@KaiSellgren I don't think banning facebook would have any effect. Nowadays people about my age don't use it anyways. (I am 17)
Yep in our country its quality over quantity
In Finland the death rate is higher than the birth rate. The Finns can't breed and hate foreigners who do. Alcoholism, Loneliness, Depression, Racism and Suicide are turning this country into a Jurassic museum. In 15 years, Finland will not have enough workers to pay for the pension of retired people.This the truth the Finns hate to talk about in public. Natural selection is working against the Finns...
I am so happy they gave her finnish name *Ella!* Such a beautiful baby, I’m glad the mom got good care here. ❤️
Älä vaa!! And it's international name too
It's nice that it's both Finnish and American. Like Emma, but a little less common. I'm Finnish but the first thing that comes to mind when hearing the name is Ella Fitzgerald, and I love her! 😊
@@chrissiek9106 joo Ella on aivan ihana nimi!
@Mic Jack mitä vittua?
@Mic Jack nah mut miten tää liittyy toho videoo??
Here in Germany health Insurance is 14% of your salary and that covers about every medical care. Each parent has 1 year paid maternity/ partenity leave. And get about 190€ monthly child benefit for 18years.
I live in Finland for 11 years they welcome me they give me everything and now i am giving them back. Peace country
I'm happy to read how people living in Finland are happy with our system and have no problem with bit higher taxes.
The key issue here, if you make more money in Finland you pay more so there is more to spend. Try to make the rich and famous here to pay more and see where it goes. They will be calling their buddies in DC and getting fixed for good.
Yeah but we have similar problems in Finland also, the rich use every trick in the book to lessen their tax burden, or just move to other countries with lower taxes. Taxing the rich is not a solution, nor is taxing the companies.
@@tangerinelover69 We'd somehiw have to eliminate tax havens globally. Then there would be no place for the rich to hide their money
@@jokuvaan5175 or we could just not tax the rich to death.
@@tangerinelover69 I can assure you that the rich aren't going to die if their tax procent is higher than poorer people. Even with the high taxe rates of Finland the rich can live happily with no financial worries and get better, more expensive things than the poor. We have to get the money from somewhere if we want to maintain the high standards of living for everyone. It's just the human greed that makes you want more and more even thought you don't need it. Just the thought that tens of thousands are taken from YOUR potential wealth sounds unfair even if you had no other financial worries that the poor have.
@@jokuvaan5175 if you tax the rich to death, how do you think companies will expand when they have no money because of outrageously high taxes. Government programs won't create jobs for the people.
In Sweden we have the same but we have 12 months paid leave which one parent must do at least 3 of them. "Socialist" Scandinavia is a great place to live, except the weather
execpt swedistan
Some people like winter
Seasonal change is good. Real one. When winter actually has snow, autumn - yellow leaves, and spring - chorus of singing birds. Not the kind of "seasons" they have in the south
@@liyanibernier5720 treating them like humans
@@fjalls Sweden is way more evolved and sophisticated than Finland. Swedish economy is way better, Swedish population growth is stable. Finland has become like a kindergarden for old people and alcoholics. They can't even make a football team.
Tax rates rise and getlower depending on salary. Also the tax is not used only in child systems but also free healthcare, free schools, paid university studies and many more free systems which we have.
How is it that always when foreigners make show about Finland, theres no actual finns??
Maby because they're being bred out of existence by letting in all the non-white foreigners.
@@terminateallsjws8318 Lol you edited your comment yet you still managed to spell 'maybe' wrong
@@terminateallsjws8318 Can you not start that here? Super annoying
Only nationality mentioned here is a single American. I think its pretty safe to assume that the rest are Finns.
Unknown1355 I meant that everyone here are immigrants or something
I'm British a single father trapped in Finland. Women and kids can have a great life in Finland. Unfortunetely for immigrant fathers they do not like us.
My daughter lives with me fulltime and mother has like 5% visitation time even though we live on same street! Yet that is equal custody and I am trapped in a foreign country. But they refuse to allow let me study or work (Even though I legally can), it's a battle to be allowed to have any freedom in Finland for me. But I try do my best raising my lil daughter by myself.
My life may be ruined by Finland but aslong as I struggle through things my daughter can have a good life in Finland.
Can you tell more about how they refuse you to work and study?
@@aki3774 When I came to Finland they made me fly back to England to get copies of my qualifications from colleges/universities etc, Then said they don't recognise British degrees (They clearly should) then disposed of the copies.
They said all paperwork for studies, work etc has to be agreed thought T-E Office(Jobcentre) before I could start, They take 2-3 months to reply to calls or emails, so when my daughter was just born I started a course which I applied for myself and 2 months into course they said because they didn't put the application in instead of me they stopped all my student income for 2 months.
Even now 7 years on after 2 years of asking for a meeting I got one, yet they refuse to say if I am allowed to do a specific course, 3 meetings later still say they don't know yet don't know who else to ask for me.
Being a single father It's expensive living here yet can I keep taking risk of starting courses, work etc to them have all my paperwork cancelled again and struggle!
Every month paperwork is a big issue, I tell them they need information, they refuse to take it saying don't want it, then end of month stop my income because they really did need what I said. Never ending battle.
I also allowed Finnish people to do things on my behalf (Because they think I'm just lazy or language barrier) Yet they realised it was same for them waiting months for an email back or phone call etc. It sounds unbelievable so much crap can happen to one person, but when you get involved you soon see it really is true!
Even the courts when went for custody the judge told me first moment met me "Because your British I'm not letting anything go your way" To which he even said in court "my daughter welfare is not important"
Great country but system has many many flaws.
@@JJ-Malone Well I don't think you can blame them for requiring qualifications for your degree. What body do you mean by "they"? But I agree the TE office is a mess. Any case, I believe official recognition of foreign degrees is done through the national board of education, not TE-toimisto. www.oph.fi/english/services/recognition
@@aki3774 Oh I don't blame for requiring qualifications, Its that I flew to another country for them to refuse them when legally they have to accept them.
Seems everyone at T-E office knows nothing.
Yes but in order to get any student income T-E office has to accept that I am on the right course. They have to tell Kela that they are allowed to issue it to me. Which then causes so much problems With Kela when they are just as bad lol, Well the system is bad, the actual staff in office at Kela hate the system they have to go by themselves.
Yet when Bernie Sanders propose that here, the MSM will go : HOW WILL YOU PAY FOR THAT?
So true
because there are too many fuckng Americans pro-creating while unemployed and not contributing in taxes. Not sustainable
Because they do not want to bite the hand that feeds them. Big pharma lobby, insurance lobby, etc.... BERNIE 2020!!!
@George Kushtrue, that our healtcare reform did collapse, but , just to make sure that everyone understand, it failure had no huge effect on normal every day life nor the services provided to citizens.
Reform was not just about healtcare but it included many other difficult factors like creating new provinces in Finland and to create new administrations to handle and run many goverment operations locally, like regional state administrative agencies etc.
What comes to healtcare reform, the idea was to transfer public healtcare responsibilities from cities to new 18 provinces. The model had it goods and flaws. The current (old) system is based on hospital districts that we have 20 and every of these twenty district has their own member cities/towns behind. It is like if all those ten regions of New York State would be like our 20 healthcare district and inside of that region/district one operator takes care that all healthcare services are provided to everyone. The current model has its winners and losers as would have had with this reform one also. It is not issue to big cities like Helsinki area, where is lots of tax payers, but in less populated areas, the burden of running cost for Healtcare comes issue.
There is also a lot of politics involved on matter (do we wanna keep whole Finland populated and offering all services cross the country as good Welfare State) and If the proposed model would have come on effect, cost would have still being paid with taxes but for state, not cities/towns. Also as I said, in Finland we have areas where the reform would have had negative effects as there was considered some hopspitals would have closed the doors and services would have been focused on "hubs". Also perhaps not every type operation would have been offered in every hub.
Interestingly the biggest and most powerful Healthcare districts was the most prominent critic and against the new model. I would like to think that also those less populatated towns, which currently run hospital services (which might be expensive for them in economical viewpoint) could be sure and not to worry that would they loose they local hospitals (better local service).
So summa summarum, in healthcare matter it was about economics; who collects the money and who provides the service and by which rules the service is provided and to whom. Maybe it would have had better cost performance, but not sure about the quality of service that it would have generated locally. And as I said, healthcare was just one part of this huge governance reform.
Maybe failure is wrong word. I would say that proposed new model was not liked by majority. Sometimes reforms are not better than old systems when looking bigger picture. It does not mean, that Healthcare reform would not happen some day in Finland, but atleast not with the model that was proposed and rejected.
The reason why hospitals are so expensive is because of insurance companies a simplified version is that hospitals used to charge a reasonable amount of money but then they struck a deal with insurance companies so that they would jack up prices and the only way a normal person would be able to afford them was medical insurance so that it would appear that medical insurance was covering a huge amount
Which hospital in the USA that only charges new mother $12,290 USD for the birth of her newborn baby? I gave birth to my daughter in 2012 and was handed a bill for over $50,000 USD when I left the hospital. There was no complication in the birthing process and no special need or care either. It was a quick in and out of the hospital in 3 days.
You should've comparison-shopped when your water broke, duh. lol
the government drives up the cost of healthcare. there is no free market to reign in what these hospitals are charging. the same goes for college education.
jesus christ when the baby was coming out , i thought it was real. Don't traumatize me like that!
That's how you came out of mommy's belly 😂
@@nisigate It is not belly ... Rather call it ...
now, if they only could offer a hotter climate
US is able to do the same! It is simply a matter of having that courage, of trying something new. If you get value for your money, then how can you call tax too high?
I'm from Finland 🇫🇮
Maiju Liukkonen you guys are awesome
Tax-bitchass biyatch lmao exactly what I was thinking
In Finland people funding all that "easy living" by themselves. 24% sales tax is only tip of the iceberg. Filled up my car yesterday and it was 1.62 EUR /liter. Put it another way: 1 gal = 3.79 liter. 3.79 x 1.62 eur = 6.13 EUR / gallon. Eq. $6.93/gallon. That's Finland. There is no such thing like a free lunch.
Make america great again..over $12000 to have a baby in the united states.."" Great indeed"
My american friend have two beautiful children, both of them born in Mexico...(she live in California), she said that the delivery and hospital expenses cost her less than $1,000 and with all her extra expenses (hotel, travel, food) is no more than $1, 800 per child...
Amazing work they do💓
@Tax-bitchass biyatch Finland has free market with high taxses with these benefits it ain't even close to communisim
@Tax-bitchass biyatch Well 75% of Finland is covered in Forest so i bet everyone has a big enough backyard..
Tax-bitchass biyatch yeah, no need for some stupid backyard when i can just take a tent, a knife, lighter and some food and go any where i want to go.
We do pay high taxes here but they're not as high as in most European countries. And income is anyway high enough that after taxes we still have more than in most countries around the world including the US.
I rather pay more up front and receive the benefits... because in the end we still pay more and have nothing to show for it
I believe it. I don't have insurance because my part-time job doesn't offer it and I'm too poor to afford to pay a monthly premium. I unfortunately had to go to the ER in March because I thought I had COVID and felt deathly ill… I was there for about _two_ hours and now I'm stuck with a $7,004 bill that I cannot pay. I get my high blood pressure medicine from Mexico, I also went there to get my wisdom teeth removed for a grand total of $120 while here the quote I received was for over 1000. Inability to pay was the reason that when I broke my ankle in 2012, I decided to grin and bear it rather than go to the hospital for a cast.
My labor is still in collections. Waiting for a lower settlement. Charged high prices for tasteless food and restless stay.
smshortcake99 , as long as you owe them they’ll never be broke! I hope you & your baby are doing well. 😊
Every country should be like this
Dear CBS. Hello from Finland! Your facts, sorry "facts" need some serious checking. I understand that in your country things need to be simplified and oversized but facts remain.
I am 99% sure that the pregnant journalist went to finland to have baby lol!
I’m moving to Finland.
That's why I choose Finland 🇫🇮 ❤️.
For decades this has worked quite well. But all the expenses are getting up, "great generation" is getting old and they need more healthcare, also tens of thousands of new immigrants and refugees need healthcare... our tax money is not gonna be enough. Our government has to take billiions of loan every year to cover the public costs. So now they try to move health care as much as possibile to the private sector. So we are basically following the american way.
It's actually worse for us than the Americans. At least the bank that is draining them dry is in their own continent and they have their own money. Ours is a far away country, with layers of bureaucrats and corruption between and a currency that was forced to us without the will of the people. We have been annexed to an European federal union without our consent and against our constitution.
So glad we had our baby outside of the states too!!
Cuz people care thats why they are doing good. We can learn from Finland
Listen, I understand the black mom. I had my first child in 12/21/2019 and my physician assistant was so rude to me! So much so that she decided to apologize to me after stitching me up. I guess she felt like I would report her. The doctor leading my delivery was frustrated that I was ready to push at 1:21 AM. Coming in the room huffing and puffing and irritated.
I'm French and I don't get how that's weird. This is basic human decency. What else is a healthcare state for?
In America, it's to make money. If patients get well, that's a secondary concern.
exactly, everyone should be taxed at 100% so that the government can take care of everyones needs
Basically everyone stays home with the baby minimum 9 months and gets paid for it quite well. (~75% of previous incomes?)
My goodness, that's a blessing.
Yes the Nordic model has been serving these low population, relatively isolated countries well. No, you cannot just take the same model and apply on different countries with different problems. The Nordic model is already running into problems just trying to withstand the recent immigration trend. We are not so isolated now. Suddenly there are "big country problems" in Finland. This is not something the economic system was designed to handle. Obviously premium social care cannot be continued while the recipients keep adding up.
Similar model for the US would require immense economic restructuring. And it would be risky and unstable. Unconstitutional, volatile. Some business and property owners might mass migrate out of US. Lots of people would not agree on this kind of change, and they have that right of course. Surely for the best.
PERKELE KU LAITTANU SUOMINEIDON VINOO
Doctor's appointment: € 20.90The fee will be charged for the first three (3) visits per calendar year
If you visit a nurse it is 12,20€ I know it is really cheap for a working person but to me it is one
days eating money. And for example I get an unemployment payment of 625€ a month I know
it sounds a lot to some people but after rent and electricity and water will leave me with about 200€ per month.
Oh and even and studying in Finland is not completely free either ! I don't get where people get these idea's that everything is free in Nordic countrys...
It would be great if more fathers took paternity leave.
They have that too
My healt ed teacher just did for a 6 mounths!
In the USA it is about the money. Not about the people.
Ei ihme kun on halpaa hankkia lapsia kun valtio haluaa niistäkin vaan veronmaksajia joten valtio ei juurikaan menetä mitään :DD
Verot on hyvä asia ilman niitä me oltais kehitysmaa perkele
Ihan niin kuin tuo olisi huono asia?
Sanoinko olevan huono asia?
@@vellu2358 Sanoinko, että olisit sanonut sen olevan huono asia?
@@Sharnoy1 Sanoinko, että sanoitko, että hän olisi sanonut sen olevan huono asia?
and i hear people complaining about taxes here in finland ofc its high taxes when there is almost free healthcare and free schoolsystem. but ofc you cant please everyone
*How it costs less than 60 dollars to have a baby* Don't have one 😊
Petty Princess Because collecting money from cute little little baby bu bu buuuus 😙 is not fun :/
@@GroundConnection huh?
Petty Princess häh?
@@GroundConnection 😂😂😂😂
Say that Again !!
Really puts the US to shame..
i paid 150 dollars in the philippines
and that included at 40 mile ride in ambulance
In philippines you could be a king in one Island with that money
It's not $60 but the real cost is around $2000-$3000 equivalent.
4:54 aww..too cute.
The cost is much more then that, but the price might be 60$ to the family.
12k for a baby?! Nice work USA...
Great to see us Finns talking about this in the comments
Nothing in life is free, some one pays for it one way or the other.
Yeah its called fair taxes for the greater good. They pay reasonable taxes so that everyone, including themselves, receives the best care. Sounds pretty logical to me.
@@maryv5815 how much is fair? why not tax everyone at 100% and let the government decide what everyone should decide to do with the money they earn?
Does they guy say at the end that we have 15 million people uninsured? That's about triple the size of our population, so it just shows how much research he did on this topic :) And no, obviously we have insurances...
CBO estimated the number of uninsured at 27 million in 2016 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_coverage_in_the_United_States#Estimates_of_the_number_of_uninsured
Proof of Bernie 2020 1000%
HOW DOES IT COST 12,290$ IN US??? that is robbing...
This is what a real socialist democracy looks like. Americans have been fooled to believe anything with the word socialist is really bad hence the people overlook forced bankruptcy due to medical bills, unsustainable college debt and high crime in part due to income inequality. I was in the hospital in Sweden for almost a month and my total bill was 66 dollars which included my hospital stay, treatment and medicine. Since moving to Sweden my income tax rate is a little higher compared to what i use to pay in the US but the benefits is a lot more than the negatives. By the way, Sweden like most European countries is also a Socialist democracy. Americans please wake the up out of your sleep and see the current political system in the US only benefits a small percentage of the population.
But how wonderful is Sweden actually
m.ua-cam.com/video/3KSJY0c8QWw/v-deo.html
Socialists believe that money grows from the trees. Finland is in big trouble at the moment.
Finland literally collapsed just now, their entire government had to resign because they are broke. They are on their way to be Venezuela 2.0 in matter of days.
@@jk8557 And they tempraly split. They didn't collapse. Plus we got elections in a few weeks.
I almost died after being left alone for 4 hours during a medical emergency in a hospital. The Black moms was making a point that is hardly spoken off in the USA.
I'm moving to Finland
Dont..
@@sirmonkey3215 mitä välii tbh
If you do, prepare to leave in a few years, weve had enough of foreigners ruining our nation and country
Do not come here
As a Finn, I have to step in to tell about the reality as well as most Finns here are either lying about the current system or misleading.
First of all, all those "25% income tax is average" comments are misleading. They don't take into account other taxes and mandatory payments such as pensions that no one under 40 yo will ever see again. So basically you can add 10% more to those "average" numbers. Also the average taxes themselves don't matter because that "average" tax percentage mentioned is already applied to people with really low income, so even if it would be average you would be literally living hand-to-mouth. If you can actually afford to buy some nice things in life or invest in hobbies and maybe sometimes go travelling abroad, you'll be paying 40-50% income tax or more. Also because of the steep progression, marginal tax percentage goes above 50% meaning very quickly meaning in practice that if you earn more than 3600e/month, for any salary increase you get after that, you will actually get less than 50%.
Then the real payments for each person's salary are much higher than when you take into account employer's costs. For example if you want to have 2000e on you bank account at the end of the month, your employer has to pay almost 5000e for that. You might think that it does not concern you, but it does because the extremely high taxation not only makes it impossible and hard for many companies to invest in Finland => less job, it also makes it impossible for companies to reward hardworking people as they are the ones who end up paying the bills for everyone.
Everything else is also extremely expensive and taxes are incredibly high for every single thing (VAT, gasoline, cars, alcohol, you name it etc.). The purchasing power in Finland is one of the lowest in first world countries. Funnies thing is that even with all those taxes the system is unable to support the Finnish society, but instead Finland is taking huge amounts of debt on top of that so that people can keep on living in the fake reality. If you are a parasite who doesn't want to work and just wants free things then Finland is great place to live until the whole society collapses. All the smart, educated and hardworking people are already moving out. This is known as "aivovuoto" in Finnish media and public discussions. Feel free to google it.
Even the Ministry of Finance (National Treasury) announced just a month or two ago that current system cannot maintain itself and the extreme cuts in speding (= all those "free" services) are required immediately. But this doesn't concern your average Finn. They are just repeating "WE HAVE A FREE HEALTHCARE! ALL IS FINE" in an endless loop.
I'm not trying to support or defend American system, but just wanted to clarify things since there is lot of lies and misinformation being spread.
The health care isn't even good always
Finally a Finn who speaks the truth !
thank you for clarifying this. nothing is free. nothing!
Lol amazing exactly how our country could be if y’all would stop playing. We just want it to be better.
Exactly, Bernie2020
@stryfetc1 But maybe we should at least try to fix that
@sai76 I don't think wanting healthcare in a first world country is entitlement
YALL PAY OVER 12K TO HAVE A BABY? oh my..
SMH America is so greedy makes me want to move but first I'll see if Bernie wins
www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-09/finland-government-falls-after-attempts-to-reduce-healthcare/10885712
Do not come to Finland, we already have problems with outsider invaders. Finland for Finns!
Minimal taxes ARE NOT 25%! My taxes are currently 0% cos I am only working in the summer, and the highest they have been was 9% when I was working in a job with minimal wage.
Publicly funded hospital care such as this, intended for pregnant mothers and delivering their babies is an absolute perk, but just as is always typical for these types of “look-at-how-much-better-Scandinavia-is-videos”, they use the word “free” a little too loosely. We have an insane tax burden and are still taking on government debt at a rate that is going to make Greece look like a picnic unless reversed.
The effective tax rate on an average sales level employee is actually over 50%, but that is hidden by a bunch of clever antics on the bookkeeping side of things. Most of the income tax is paid by the employer in Finland, not by the employee, so we can have a nominally nice sounding tax rate of ~15-20% for someone making roughly 30k a year.
When you add the cost of living and a VAT of 24% to nearly everything, you begin to understand things a little better...
It’s costs that because the rest of the country is picking up the tab.
Yep. It's even worse now with all these "refugees" we are getting. They invade our country and make us pay for it.
voiceofeurope.com/2019/03/a-single-somali-migrant-costs-the-finnish-state-almost-1-million-euros-during-their-lifetime/
All I need is a job and housing and I'm coming Finland!!!
älä vittu tuu tänne
@@kdhfjdlhjkn5 :DD
Ill get you a free job and a roof, lying in a ditch covered in soil
@@Dookie9669 please do that for every refugee too
@@Dookie9669 Funny haha...
Same in Spain...even the goody box!
wendy kemp They copied it from Finland which was an excellent choice.
This video literally promotes people taking advantage of foreing goverments
This is a beautiful thing
Go Finland 😍
A true finish woman.
LoL from detroit
Tax $ ??? We have € here tough!
Well it's "translated" so that they understand the price range compared to their country.
No mitä vitu välii jos ne käyttää sitä sanaa jenkeis idari
Land Lord when they talk about prices, they use their own currency so that it’ll be easier for their own audience to understand it
All this good stuff at the cost of learning one of the world's hardest languages to become fluent in
Most people speak English here.
Suomi mainittu nyt kaikkien pitäs tietää mitä tehää
patukka en tiiä sori
@@meowBlitz taidat olla ruotsalainen.
@@patukka3336 jag har läse svenska i skol koska det är "pakkoruotsi"
Blitzmister baggo ruodsi is gei
@@oldsailor4143 nii o
Don't get any crazy ideas after watching this video...
> black woman
> Finland
Great.
I think somalis and arabs are bigger problem here tho
What needs to happen in the US is to become a federal country. Doctors in Finland work for the country which means they get paid less than Americans. Teachers also earn less in Finland all this add up. Will not happen in America universities love money and like getting students in debt
Suomi on paras💎💎💎💎
Suomi oli paras.
How it costs less than $0 to have a baby in Denmark
How it cost less than 10,000 in every first world country exept the US.
"Those Fins...worse than Stalin" - Sean Hannity
Really?
Thats how we live in our country..
Greetings from Finland, I know a couple of women who actually went abroad to give birth to their children as the hospitals & the personnel here have a bad reputation for a reason.
Greetings from Finland, that's BS!
Kimble81 so you're from the Hamina region and know Kotka and Kouvola hospital well? Then my friends lied to me. Yeah, that must be it.
@@ylpea5170 Some don't to see the reality, unfortunately....
7 Finnish healthcare sucks, according to some Finnish friends of mine, that‘s all I said. But calling me a liar, well, let‘s just hope you‘ll receive bad treatment yourself.
UA-cam just recommended me how Finland has the best school system
Now this 🤧🤧
Ig I’m living in the wrong country
Haha I am finnish
Europe for Europeans
Having a baby in Finland will cost you 20 000€ over the years unless you abandon it, maybe even more if you let them have expensive hobbies etc.
This is absolutely too low €€€. It must be much more.
@@JormaKovanen well there's always social support and the layette. But yeah I played it safe and said 20 000€ but it can easily be more if you go beyond the essential needs.