This is the 1st time I have ever commented on a UA-cam video but I felt the need to Thank You for this tutorial.........Great tutorial....couldn't have come online at a better time for a lot of Evo owners.
I need to mention to everyone here, that you can in fact put the SS plate on wrong when reassembling and the middle housing can be put back on backwards too. Also make sure the chamfered slash hole is in the direction of the bigger end of SS plate "crescent" openings. And best advice is to mark all 3 housings with lines so when assembling you line. them back up.
It is a "normal" ATF, just one that fits the SP-3spec... Mitsubishi sells the dia queen AYC fluid... I usually use Motul Multi ATF. Yes, after installing the pump you need to bleed the system.. using mitsubishi service tool, or something like the tool I used to make (the one in this video)....
Very nice effort uploading this_ Do we have to BLEED the pump and/or its lines till transfer case and rear diff. pistons, which engage or free the clutch packs, after 1) servicing the pump plate as you have shown or just simply after 2) changing our ATF pump fluid???? (pump fluid is ATF, right?)
great tutorial!!! im sure this tool can be used to bleed the pump for when the ayc fluid needs changing :) im intrested to see if this will work for evo 4 5 6
I haven't tested my pump yet, so I don't know if it's problem is related to a mechanical failure. My quesiton is, can I remove my pump and plug off the line to the T-Case while I work on the pump? Can I test the pump when it's still on the car? I have an 09 Ralliart. It's very cold outside here and I need this car as my daily driver but I also need to have my pump repaired before the heavy snowfall.
Great video. If you do this a lot save the time and put together a rig for a slide hammer. It'd save you all the unnecessary welding and grinding of stuff for facilitating removal.
Is this a typical hydraulic circuit with a hydraulic pressure accumulator, electric pump, and actuators? Question: if the pump fails, will the differentials still work since it's an active differential? Imagine taking a hard corner and then suddenly realize the AWC isn't working...
It'll be fine. The controls only adjust bias of the differentials. Without any adjustment (aka pump failure) they would stay at their default torque bias. Yes it is a typical basic hydraulic circuit.
I have an Evo V in the US and I have the ABS AYC and SRS Lights on. Are these the ones you are talking about? Or are you saying the Gavel tarmac and snow lights?
Did you sort it? I have a similar problem, runs for a while, then error returns. Mine seems to be related to the motor, let me know what was the case with yours. Maybe it needs something done with MUT III ?! Thanks.
Bib, you show the wave washer being on the motor side of the bearing seal. When I disassembled mine, the washer was on the pump side of the seal. It makes some sense that it would preload the bearing against the face of the seal. Mine may have been assembled wrong from the factory I suppose. Where should it be? Thank you
Does heavy corrosion and AYC/ACD Pump failure have to do with temperature and road conditions? I've been doing some research and most of the people who have this issue live in cold areas with salt on the roads during the winter.
Hi, does the pump turn on when turning key to accessory, or does it only turn on during ignition? I want to try listening to it to see if its going bad.
no, it is turned on by the ACD ecu. On E8 and 9 you can turn it manually by pressing on the accelerator fully and turning the key to ON position... it should start after a few sec. Maybe better solution is to switch the pump on manually trough the pump relay, or unplug the pump motor connector and apply 12V directly..
I've done exactly the same as you - fluid pumping out of hole where sensor would go before putting gauge in to make sure there's no airlock but then when i turn the motor on to build pressure it goes to 5 bar straight away and then stops...any ideas?
Yes seems like its the motor, cause i couldn't manually activate it. I brought it to a electric shop, and they said the brushes are bad. And they are going to find parts for me. I will keep you update
YES, you have to bleed the system after servicing the pump. If you just change the ATF in the rear diff, then NO, no need for a bleed... However, if you want to change the ATF in the pump itself, then yes, you need to bleed the system as it is the best way to change the fluid...
I will try that as a last resort, thx for the quick reply! Just wished there was some type of penetrate that can remove the rust/corrosion like a miracle.
@MrLeecavturbo There are two kits... the Toolkit, which consists of the powerbox for the pump motor and valves, and can be used for testing or bleeding the system + pressure gauge and adapter and some blanking plugs. Second is the repair kit, which consists of the new pump plate, all new O rings, Oil seal and bearing for the motor shaft, new bolts.The instructions... you are watching those.. :) Kit works for Evo 7/8/9, I need to check about 4/5/6, but for Evo 10 there will be another kit..
hello my friend.i have an evo 8 and my abs lamb stays on, the oil of the pumb overflow and i dont control my car in the corners tell me if i have a problem with my pumb please.....
The plate and seals are the same on all pumps, it is just the bolts that are different in length. So you can always get the e789 kit and get the bolts separately. While I was producing the kits I used to have a separate kit for the X though..
hi, you must have a broken actuator plate in the transfer box... that is where the ACD fluid is leaking from.. Only solution is to service the transfer box or replace it..
I got my pump rebuilt, tested and sealed. I got it up and running for a day, then the C161E shown up again. Went to the dealership and had them bleed the system still no luck. Anyone have any idea?
@Hexenmiester If you are from the US or north America, contact acd-tuning, they also repair the pumps If you are anywhere else, contact me direct via the mail in the vid..
because of corrosion between the pump halves the tolerances in the pump grow and the georotor pump cant make the pressure.. the oil just flows around the rotor
+bibnakladnistvo I see, thanks bro ! I appreciate your reply !!! By the way, do you have the hydraulic circuit diagram and the electrical diagram for the pump motor and solenoids, couldn't find any of these on pro demand ......
Pretty sure you can use their test box to run the pump. Otherwise you can do it how he says in the video by holding the throttle down with the ignition on (engine not running) (Doesn't work on the Evo X).
Kartyman550 Then I think you have to use the test kit in the video. Otherwise there's no way to run the pump to bleed the system. You can try looking up on some Evo forums though. Maybe there's a way to bleed without running the pump.
Hi, I sent you an email a few days ago about the repair kit, are you still producing them and answering the emails? I am currently in Croatia (Zagreb) so if by any chance you see this and are also here, please PM me, I would like to buy a kit from you!
Thanks for the video man, very helpful. Not sure why one person decided to dislike this... I guess they bought a new pump at the dealer
A fantastic tutorial. Rebuilt my pump as shown and after bleeding my AYC now works perfectly! Literally saved myself £1000+. Many thanks.
glad it worked for you...
This is the 1st time I have ever commented on a UA-cam video but I felt the need to Thank You for this tutorial.........Great tutorial....couldn't have come online at a better time for a lot of Evo owners.
Excellent. Thank you for taking so much time to set this up. By far the best tutorial I have seen on here. Very Professional.
I need to mention to everyone here, that you can in fact put the SS plate on wrong when reassembling and the middle housing can be put back on backwards too. Also make sure the chamfered slash hole is in the direction of the bigger end of SS plate "crescent" openings. And best advice is to mark all 3 housings with lines so when assembling you line. them back up.
Great video, thanks. Can I ask you what is the oil? And is there any further bleeding when you fit the pump back to the car?
It is a "normal" ATF, just one that fits the SP-3spec... Mitsubishi sells the dia queen AYC fluid... I usually use Motul Multi ATF. Yes, after installing the pump you need to bleed the system.. using mitsubishi service tool, or something like the tool I used to make (the one in this video)....
Great video thanks 🙏 Love
great video. well presented n inform with details .cheers
Thank you! Very good video! What is suitable sealing rubber and seals? What are the dimensions of the rubber gland and bearing?
Very nice effort uploading this_ Do we have to BLEED the pump and/or its lines till transfer case and rear diff. pistons, which engage or free the clutch packs, after 1) servicing the pump plate as you have shown or just simply after 2) changing our ATF pump fluid????
(pump fluid is ATF, right?)
great tutorial!!! im sure this tool can be used to bleed the pump for when the ayc fluid needs changing :) im intrested to see if this will work for evo 4 5 6
I haven't tested my pump yet, so I don't know if it's problem is related to a mechanical failure. My quesiton is, can I remove my pump and plug off the line to the T-Case while I work on the pump? Can I test the pump when it's still on the car? I have an 09 Ralliart. It's very cold outside here and I need this car as my daily driver but I also need to have my pump repaired before the heavy snowfall.
Great video. If you do this a lot save the time and put together a rig for a slide hammer. It'd save you all the unnecessary welding and grinding of stuff for facilitating removal.
do you get the pump/valve power box in the kit?
can you clarify what is in included?
nice job btw
Is this a typical hydraulic circuit with a hydraulic pressure accumulator, electric pump, and actuators?
Question: if the pump fails, will the differentials still work since it's an active differential?
Imagine taking a hard corner and then suddenly realize the AWC isn't working...
It'll be fine. The controls only adjust bias of the differentials. Without any adjustment (aka pump failure) they would stay at their default torque bias.
Yes it is a typical basic hydraulic circuit.
I have an Evo V in the US and I have the ABS AYC and SRS Lights on. Are these the ones you are talking about? Or are you saying the Gavel tarmac and snow lights?
2021 REBUILD KITS are still available only place I found that do them is called Evolution Hydraulics in the UK
Big Big Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
Hi! Im doing a renovation of my AYC pump as well! But where do you find the Pressure switch and solenoids? Can't find anywhere to order them from?
Did you sort it? I have a similar problem, runs for a while, then error returns. Mine seems to be related to the motor, let me know what was the case with yours. Maybe it needs something done with MUT III ?! Thanks.
You still offer the activation tool and also the seal kit? I have an evo vii that needs a rebuild
Where I can buy the kit?
How do you do? I learned a lot about y c.
Are there any torque figures for installing the bolts?
Bib, you show the wave washer being on the motor side of the bearing seal. When I disassembled mine, the washer was on the pump side of the seal. It makes some sense that it would preload the bearing against the face of the seal. Mine may have been assembled wrong from the factory I suppose. Where should it be? Thank you
Did you ever find an answer where the wave washer goes? Any help would be much appreciated 🙏
Where are the kits available from?
How can I tell if it is corrosion blocked or the motor(s) are burned? I mean before taking it off and open it.
Does heavy corrosion and AYC/ACD Pump failure have to do with temperature and road conditions? I've been doing some research and most of the people who have this issue live in cold areas with salt on the roads during the winter.
Hi, does the pump turn on when turning key to accessory, or does it only turn on during ignition?
I want to try listening to it to see if its going bad.
no, it is turned on by the ACD ecu. On E8 and 9 you can turn it manually by pressing on the accelerator fully and turning the key to ON position... it should start after a few sec. Maybe better solution is to switch the pump on manually trough the pump relay, or unplug the pump motor connector and apply 12V directly..
hi There are these kits still available ?
I've done exactly the same as you - fluid pumping out of hole where sensor would go before putting gauge in to make sure there's no airlock but then when i turn the motor on to build pressure it goes to 5 bar straight away and then stops...any ideas?
Sounds like a pump problem to me but I have to admit I never had a similar issue.. it was usually all or nothing
do you mean it should reach 15 bar straight away once you turn the motor on?@@bibnakladnistvo
@@edbowles86 normally it takes about 6-7 sec
yes, you can remove the pump and drive without it... no problem... just plug the hoses so that there is no dirt coming in..
Yes seems like its the motor, cause i couldn't manually activate it. I brought it to a electric shop, and they said the brushes are bad. And they are going to find parts for me. I will keep you update
YES, you have to bleed the system after servicing the pump. If you just change the ATF in the rear diff, then NO, no need for a bleed... However, if you want to change the ATF in the pump itself, then yes, you need to bleed the system as it is the best way to change the fluid...
Kit still available? 2006 evo 9 u.s model
My pump has started to whine on start up would you say it is corrosion related
Hey do u have any methods of removing the 2 hex bolts inside the pump, it seems heavily corroded and broke my hex bit already...
That is weird.. usually those go out easily...You can always try drilling out the heads and pulling the pump apart that way...
I will try that as a last resort, thx for the quick reply! Just wished there was some type of penetrate that can remove the rust/corrosion like a miracle.
@@bibnakladnistvo same thing happened to me. Two bolt inside the pump heavily rusted. Managed to remove one with heat. Other one is still stuck.
sweet pricless info
where can we buy the repair kit ?
Hi, how much would a kit for a evo 8 2003 ,be shipped to the UK. many thanks
Do u still sell this kit for the evox and how much
I got error 72 - directional control valve right open or short circuit on my Evo. Any tips on what's wrong with the ACD system?
Do you still sell this kit
@MrLeecavturbo
There are two kits... the Toolkit, which consists of the powerbox for the pump motor and valves, and can be used for testing or bleeding the system + pressure gauge and adapter and some blanking plugs.
Second is the repair kit, which consists of the new pump plate, all new O rings, Oil seal and bearing for the motor shaft, new bolts.The instructions... you are watching those.. :)
Kit works for Evo 7/8/9, I need to check about 4/5/6, but for Evo 10 there will be another kit..
Hi. Do you still offer this kit? Ty
Same. Do you have the kit? Or where do we order it from
How much is the repair kit for an evo x rs shipped to UK?
hello my friend.i have an evo 8 and my abs lamb stays on, the oil of the pumb overflow and i dont control my car in the corners tell me if i have a problem with my pumb please.....
Was this pump for the Evo X?
HI there where can i get the kit from? cheers
Can’t find a kit that works with the 2012 evo x :/ taking mine apart but can only find the rebuild kits for evo 8s&9s
The plate and seals are the same on all pumps, it is just the bolts that are different in length. So you can always get the e789 kit and get the bolts separately. While I was producing the kits I used to have a separate kit for the X though..
Whats the thread size of the outlet ports to the diffs??
hi, you must have a broken actuator plate in the transfer box... that is where the ACD fluid is leaking from.. Only solution is to service the transfer box or replace it..
i got a code of 82 im assuming i need to do this?
@dublindrunk
we are testing that soon.. :)
@TheHarlequin100
thanks.. :)
jayjay.... contact acd-tuning they do repair work and carry the kits in the US..
best
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Bib... Need help on an EvoX. Its for a USDM EvoX
I got my pump rebuilt, tested and sealed. I got it up and running for a day, then the C161E shown up again. Went to the dealership and had them bleed the system still no luck. Anyone have any idea?
could be just air in the pump.. check your fluid levels..
Where can i get this kit
Evolution Hydraulics in the UK still sell them
@Hexenmiester
If you are from the US or north America, contact acd-tuning, they also repair the pumps
If you are anywhere else, contact me direct via the mail in the vid..
how can i order your kit?
Do u still sell this kit? I urgently need one
why wasn't the pump making any pressure ?
when?
+bibnakladnistvo before you fixed it
because of corrosion between the pump halves the tolerances in the pump grow and the georotor pump cant make the pressure.. the oil just flows around the rotor
+bibnakladnistvo you mentioned that if the motor keeps running at high speed then it isn't pressurizing the fluid, but why is that ?
+bibnakladnistvo I see, thanks bro ! I appreciate your reply !!! By the way, do you have the hydraulic circuit diagram and the electrical diagram for the pump motor and solenoids, couldn't find any of these on pro demand ......
how do you bleed the pump?
Pretty sure you can use their test box to run the pump. Otherwise you can do it how he says in the video by holding the throttle down with the ignition on (engine not running) (Doesn't work on the Evo X).
well i have an x...
Kartyman550 Then I think you have to use the test kit in the video. Otherwise there's no way to run the pump to bleed the system. You can try looking up on some Evo forums though. Maybe there's a way to bleed without running the pump.
there isn't. i have read every thread about it. MUTIII or manual bleed box. thats all.
Kartyman550 Why not just plug 12V into the motor? That's all his test kit does.
Hi, I sent you an email a few days ago about the repair kit, are you still producing them and answering the emails? I am currently in Croatia (Zagreb) so if by any chance you see this and are also here, please PM me, I would like to buy a kit from you!
Have a look at a place called Evolution Hydraulics in the UK
Yeah, check out magnesium chloride, its nasty stuff. Look at your oil filter housing, among other parts.
no, this is a evo 9 pump
Hi, I try to contact you by mail. Please let me know can you help with a kit for Evo 9 GSR
pump pump pump pump pump pump pump looks like scratched disc
there is an email adress at the end of the vid.. :)
Email address is in incorrect
please contact me via the mail at the end of the video..
Hi, your email address seems to be incorrect.
I sent you an email.
WHERE can i buy this kit?
where can I buy this kit ?