How NOT To Build an Earthquake Proof Tower
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2023
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Not once in the 5 years I have been watching scrapman have I ever seen him admit defeat to a solo challenge.. I commend that, yet I am surprised.
The earthquake starts at the bottom of the building, and then the higher the height of the building, the highest floor has the most movement, for example, in a 10-story building, if the bottom of the building moves by 5 mm, on the 10th floor, by It moves 5 or 6 meters (I don't know the exact number), so it is better to neutralize the force of the earthquake in the building, because the taller the building, the stronger the earthquake is on the higher floors. You can use wheels or Attach a heavy suspended ball on top of the building, which they do in the real world
I think u said it all 👌
The latter tip is the most important. Heavy suspended bells are the answare to this challenge and I definitely doesn't promote RCE at all for this comment 😂
RCE?
@@nathanc6443 @RealCivilEngineerGaming
Real Civil Engineer went through all sorts of potential solutions for this level, but he was just showing them off, not really trying to find a solution until he came to the end of the video and he already knew what he was going to do.
you could try adding mortar on the ends of the blocks to attach them front to back. this should be in theory much more rigid because when you built the 1 block wide center pillar the 2 pillars of block were essentially 2 separate towers that were just smacking into each other making it sway a lot worse. so by attaching the blocks on the ends as well as on the tops, your tower should in theory be moving as a whole instead of 2 towers fighting against each other. that's all I've got to say so I hope this information helps you complete this challenging level and thank you for the amazing content!
The thing is that you dont want it to be rigid
Like the weight on the top of Skyscrapers
From my time in Japan i remember that the majority of their towers used a counterweight. So ideally build up to under the top with a reinforced tower allowing little to no drop then install some form of rope and weight mechanism near the top allowing for counteractive swinging. I think...
After watching RCE nailed this level with antisismic tower, i was waiting for you to play it!
It went as bad as i imagine 🤣
common RCE viewer W
Seeing as he's an actual engineer, I'm surprised it has taken him so long to beat scrapman
@@golett0331 to be fair most of the challenges so far have been things that knowing enough about construction games would get you through, and Scrapman definitely has more practice there.
@@golett0331 He is a youtuber now. He is there to entertain. You need to understand that he isnt using his engineering knowledge 99% of the times.
As we saw on the video, he was showing how antisismic building were built and how they worked.
@@1nicube I know that, but I'd still expect him to do better than an ex-circus performer, no offense to Scrapman.
RCE finally beat Scrapman in a level. Although guess he failed a bunch before he did...
came here looking for this
But RCE pretty much knew what to do from the start
@@CreativeSanbox-KH Did he know or did google know and he just didn't admit?
@@eduarddlabola9688RCE used to be an actual engineer. ScrapMan doesn't have that formal education and experience, so he isn't aware of how this stuff is usually done.
@@nikkiofthevalley I know but "engineer" is a broad term, there's most likely a lot of engineering stuff he learned at school and forgot, because he never used it in real life, and there's probably a lot of stuff he didn't learn at all, because it wasn't relevant to his field of study.
You don't resist an earthquake, you embrace it.
If you add wheels to the bottom, you might be able to dampen the oscillation that reaches your structure
you can also add a hanging counter weight to the top that swings instead of the whole tower
Casual real civil engineer moment
Yeah, a mass dampener of some sort would probably help.
*damp
The main thing with earthquakes is that they move, and you can't easily fight the movement of the entire Earth, so you have to move with it.
What I mean is don't be rigid, be fluid, this dampens the effect of the earthquake as you get higher up.
You (ScrapMan) never really tried to build something flexible. This is why the last build that was all wood broke before the platform could even affect it, because wood is so rigid it snaps under any encounter with movement. I'm not saying wood is a bad choice, just again, make it so there's flexibility.
Regarding the build with a stone exoskeleton:
You don't need to make the structure so beefy. The platform wasn't actually that heavy, the reason it was falling through was because the bricks were either crushing or pulling the wood structure apart.
Try testing this by just having wood pillars go straight up with a platform in the middle, it'll probably last almost as long as one of your brick towers.
You really needed Engineering knowledge for this one. No idea how it would be possible without a seismic dampener like RCE made. There is literally no other way.
The Jenga Tower seemed to have the most promise, you might either have to move the blocks perpendicular to the earthquake in a bit from the edges and or secure them with rope
I think you were right about the bricks being a decoy. Something I remember learning at one point was that brick buildings are terrible for surviving earthquakes
Use the wheels and brace the heck outta the middle and the platform will move back and forth while the wheels act like a slider
Don't forget the free hanging counterweight in the top.
Build a stone frame, attach rotators and wheels, build tower on stone frame, so it's essentially a rolling tower that 'hopefully' dampens the shaking enough
Now I understand why RCE said you need to embrace movement not fight it ^^
you can do this level with a few straight beams lol
Maybe place those rotators upwards instead of flat? Its like your placing a wheel flat on the floor and expecting it to roll hahaha. Could try put the whole tower on those rotators like using wheels on a car. Then the whole building should just slide back and forth without flexing? Or maybe try a counterweight x)
Try adding mortar to both sided of the bricks you're attaching and also try having a gyro stabilising effect at the top of the tower to reduce the sway at the top. The stabiliser can be just a rotating bearing halfway up allowing it to sing back and forth by placing the vertically, as in attached to the interior walls, then build upward, additionally supporting braces only work if beam is as big as in use as few pieces as possible.
A massive tip aswell try building stone bricks like it's a brickwall
Overlaping sections.
The last tower was promising in it's thought process. But you ended up doing 2 unstable towers.
2 long blocks, 3 short blocks, 2 long blocks, 3 short blocks, ... etc.
It "should" make it harder to fall.
Also, try triangular shape towers. Harder to manage but if you draw them in alternative rotation [first layer the long side prevales over the left and the next prevales over the right] it, again, "should" make it harder to fall.
Basicaly, that's how brick walls are made.
3,4 or 5 story Pagoda! 🏯Wider @ the base and with sturdy walls and moveable joints. The more corner wedging with wood the less "moveable" it would be. Additionally, I am guessing the stone blocks (or whatever they're made of) might need to be vertical as well as horizontal.
Earth Quakes are a issue here in New Zealand, we learnt long ago that brick buildings and chimneys tend to fall down when shaken
- I agree the bricks are a red herring - but would make a great footer for the foundation then a floating structure.
All Our buildings are no longer fixed to the ground, they now have base isolators or a base isolation system.
Google - " One technology to reduce earthquake impacts on buildings, pioneered by New Zealand scientist William Robinson in the 1970s, is what's known as base isolators or a base isolation system. This is a similar idea to car suspension and sees the superstructure of a building decoupled from its substructure, isolating it "
overlapping the gaps as well as mortaring the ends for rows of two brick, like mortaring between them. But there's definitely something to the bricks
Idea for you:
Use the stone in chunks. As in, try to recreate the wide tower at (25:59) and support individual chunks, (say 4 block stacks) by using wood. Then, use the ropes to bind the mini-structures together. In theory, this would prevent them from falling apart as easy, due to the rigid connections being smaller, and not tied to the ground, and the loose connections (the ropes) should tension when the parts wobble, hopefully pulling them together. Just make sure they are even as possible on both sides, or you will end up listing to one side or the other.
In an ideal world this would work, but no guarantee the physics in the game will do you any favors. Good luck!
Hint 1: Look at a brick wall, preferably an outside corner, i'm sure you've seen it a thousand times before but notice how there is a pattern in the bricks? so that there is NEVER a brick directly above another brick? that's not for visuals but is a conscious design choice, you want the bricks to _interlock_ so they hold each other in place.
Hint 2: Real world "earthquake proof" buildings do have a weight on a swivel at the top, so that if the ground moves in one direction (and with that moves the building) the weight stays in place, making the building heavier on one side 'where it came from' and making it want to tilt in that direction, so you end up (mostly) cancelling out the movement. Not sure if that will be required here.
Step 1: Build the simplest climbable tower possible. Step 2: Hang the stone on the top. Step 3: Beat the level.
Day 1 of beating that other guy to saying “Hello scrappy mcscrapman”
that was awesome to watch! such a shame the views are so much lower on this series, that I fear it hasnt got long left on the channel. Thanks for sharing these!
My inital thougt is to make a bed of those rollet bearings at the base and build a building on top of that, attached loosely with ropes, so that the base can move freely, isolated from the rest of the building.
Try actual building techniques in real life for countering earthquakes, like making the building have a moving base or a counterweight inside.
I'd love to see you return to this challange and try to beat it! I have no idea what to do to beat it tho...
this is where you see that scrapman has no idea about physics 😂😂😂😂
if you make a wooden tower thats sturdy, but have the base on wheels, in the direction of the quake. it works. i did it, the wheels work as a suspension back and forth. just remember to brace the tower properly
Three years of saying hello scrappy mcscrapman
Taipei 101 uses a giant ball towards the top to help fight seismic activity so i believe using something like those bearings near the top should help fight the motion
build a machine that pushes one building into another, creating a domino effect, in instruments of destruction; and play gearblocks
YESSS I was waiting for more of this game!!!
Seeing the Seismic test, my first thought was to go diagonal with the structure. Would lessen the oscillation forces.
You can scale wooden poles from below platform so, platform basically does not drop at all.. 4 pöles to all corners, one side sheets to allow climbing, but leave poles connection point emply allowing flex.. horizontal brace to all other sides.. added 4 ropes from bottom platform (short poles on corners) to as far as rope can reach.. passed with C..
Maybe you have to put mortar on both bricks for them to stick together?
29:48 *lego falling apart sfx*
Add a counterweight to the top and keep the structure not rigid.
Scrap out here making all structural dead loads into kinetic loading conditions
I have an idea, idk if it'll work, but it's worth a shot. If you use the rotators as kinda ball bearings for your own custom sliding rail you might be able to build a platform that can't get shook... Then, once you have that slider system making a stable surface, you build a tower to hold the platform...
This seems to be promising, but I'm not sure, if this would work in this game, but theoretically it should work, I think 😂
The tower you had at 21:21 with the ropes is probably the tower. Don’t cross brace the stones that are falling out. Only brace those stones with the other stone on the same level and see where you get. 🤷🏻♂️
Wait, use mortar on the side of the bricks too. You can mortar the side of one to connect another to it, as well as mortaring the top of the one underneath it.
Poor Scrapman, falling for the classic "make the structure more rigid" trap, you ned to embrace the movement, either with shock absorbers at the base (you could try and replicate them with wheels since there is only one axis of movement) or by putting a heavy pendulum at the top (those ropes might be good for something after all).
Maybe I'm missing something but aren't bricks intentional not laid out to have a clear fault line down the middle Like they all need to be slightly offset to reinforce their stability, then as everyone else is suggesting some things to help with the movement towards to the top for dampening.
On trailmakers, I made fan art of you called “ScrapMan’s Everyday Job”
Use a triangle shape, not square and leave the wood, use rope. All wood structures broke almost instantly because wood in this game has no stretch or bend at all.
it sounds counter intuitive, but if you put a free hanging weight suspended near the top of the build, it'll counter the movement imposed at the bottom, that's how super tall buildings get away with it
Easiest way to deal with earthquake... just add pendulum at the top, simple counter weight.
Keep working with the wheels! You're so close!
Man, I hope the multiplayer video can be like solve this puzzle game and see how each other answer, like maybe Kan or Moonbo or Kosmo too can try and compare each other in multiplayer video 😊
Look at how the government builds buildings in earthquake prone areas. They use springs under the foundations of the building and x bracing on all 4 sides of the building per lvl.
I'd concentrate in the movement direction of the platform, with wheels at the bottom a lightweight tower and anchor the wheels / tower with ropes as a makeshift suspension structure to stop the wheels rolling off the platform.?
Real earthquake proofing works with a pendulum system maybe the rotators swinging a concrete weight near the top.?
hey scrapman, cool tip its only the hit of mass of weight then making it less structured integration to your builds. =]
Even a Real Civil Engineer had a hard time on this mission.
Add those bearing wheels to the bottom and make the building roll with the back and forth motion.
(the only thing moving will be the bearings)
Scrapman needs to learn about the importance of flexibility and movement in a str8ucture instead of making it more ridged.
Try using more free connections to the stone. I actually think you can do this challenge without any stone at all with a proper wood lateral system.
Rollers and bearings are sliding surfaces… a wheel can turn rotary motion into linear motion
Just do a somple wooden tower and put a free hanging pendulum at the top. This is a way buildings are made earthquake-proof in real life.
Another UA-camr also tried that with sucess (i think it was RCE?)
Mission Impossible momentos.
Do you have to build it on the seismic platform can you not add staff on the ground?
I wonder what game will be next... will it be trailmakers, scrap mechanic or some more of "The Enjenir"
Movement is good. Wood is rigid
adding more stuff isn't always the solution when creating something
Merry Christmas.
Real Civil Engineer released an earthquake proof tower it is awesome
To everyone that says to use wheels: They are pathetically weak. a set of 3 wheels would struggle with a single stone block probably
RCE sweating watching your try on seismic test 😂
a got score A by stacking a single line of rotators right in the middle. That's it! so easy yet took me so long to learn that. the next level with the newts is just silly. just stack some bricks (no mortar required).
You need to alternate between 2 long bricks and 1 long and 2 short. Having one continuous seam all the way up creates weakness
Morning holmes. Try adding a rope that dangles straight down from your top sheet, and connect it to a heavy block that doesn't touch the ground but is near the ground. :)
SCRAPMAN!! Incorporateing movement into the design is paramount here! anything too rigid will want to break, and add a counterweight!! (Mass at the top of the structure usually attached by wire) Think of balancing a stick on your hand, when you add weight to the top of the stick it's much easier. Because the top of the stick now requires more inerta to move. And if your structure has allowances for movement, it allows the top to stay in one place while the rest acts as a dampener.
Can you build on the floor around the seismic machine?
He needs to watch The Real Engineer.
the stones are weighting down the entire structure causing it to fall, put the stones only on the bottom as an anchor
Use the rotator to try to make a gyro stabilizer.
We’re going off the rails here scrapman
Build your tower on wheels.
its funny how so many people watch scrapman and rce
they do need to do some kind of colab
I'd really like to see what scrapman would build in From the Depths.
Maybe because of how the platform is falling hard on the thing is why it breaks
i mean, idk what you made inside the tower, but why didnt you try the ropes inside to keep the jenga pieces together-?
have you heard of flyout? its a new game that came out a month or so ago. its probably one of the (if not the) most customizable building games out there
You gave it a good try, you should totally move on! It was both hilarious and heartbreaking to see your final attempt disintegrate in record time 😂😭
Add mortar to the sides as well and not just the top?
was thinking this too, not that I know if it'd fix this challenge.
check out how modern skyscrapers negate earthquakes and see if you can replicate ithat with the materials provied. i think there's a hanging counterweight or pendulum setup of some sort.
Watch RCE "Engineering an EARTHQUAKE PROOF tower!" his video will help you a lot.
Scrapman you may look into real civil engineers video on this level
U are one of my favorite youtubers
You need structural flexibility since this game does has ropes, and wheels your going to need the structure to rock back and forth with the wheels on a stone tower while the rope prevents the structure from rolling off if I had the money I'd do my own UA-cam series on this since I love building and survival games
A structure building game, but all the connections are so weak that no structure ever stays intact..
Just like reality, a plank breaks on the connection point, not in the middle.
@@Flying.Dutchm4n Even with metal and concrete, the failure points are often gonna be brittle welds, spalling near joints, sheared rivets/bolts, etc.
Brick /stone is bad for earthquake resistance. The structure needs to have some give.
Try alternating the stone like a brick wall.
it's so funny watching this after watching RCEs video
I think you can climb vertical so you dont need a staircase
Attach the two halves with mortar maybe
Hollow jenga tower with a pendulum down the centre