IS THE CYRUSHER RANGER EBIKE ANY GOOD?! | TESTING TORQUE PAS
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Torque PAS systems are about to become a standard on hub drive ebikes. The Cyrusher Ranger is a high end dual suspension electric fat bike with 26 inch wheels and it has torque based pedal assist. Is it any good?! I test this ebike on some off road trails!
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Magic review Andy - thanks for taking us all out and around the country side.
The only way to do pedal assist is a solid torque sensor. I haven't even installed a cadence or speed sensor; since my motor has torque sensing built in, it just started working out of the box and nothing else was necessary for it to work perfectly - which is difficult for a lot of systems because I only need it on one side (spinal cord damage). Being that it's continuously sampling the torque it adjusts to whatever the instantaneous torque is on the cranks at the time, so it makes it naturally adaptive to whatever I'm able to do with either leg at any moment in time.
I like this bike, probably as I like my fatbike. I hope the torque based bottom bracket they use isn't the same as Grins because mine was terrible and I removed it. Good tunes as always.
Looks good but seems a little pricey for what it is.
Another great review from the geriatric house djay.
Thanks Andy,look forward to more vids.
The previous Cyrusher bikes have just been rebadged ShengMiLo but this looks much better, very similar to the Himiway Zebra. It’s a shame their prices are so much higher.
Im thinking of getting a cyrusher. They seem really good.
right now its between the 650 or the Montta . what do you think?
O and do you think they are worth the extra money ?
What I mean is that I was also thinking about the Vivi fat tire E bike. But i cant tell
Nice review Andy, and some great trance stuff...I'm 67 and wouldn't be without my ADO E Bike. I use peddle assist all the time where I can, the exercise I get is very beneficial. I dare you to try peddling it with no assist...I'm guessing it would be very heavy going....The battery was epic in the review IMO...🤔😳😳😏😏🇬🇧
I've been dying for more content on the Cyrusher Monta, Ranger and Trax. They are some of the few affordable full suspension fat ebikes but don't seem to sell like Lectrics and Aventons.
Great countryside over their. The last time I was in the UK, was 2009. LIke I said I enjoyed your video and review. I have a Juiced bike, (RIP current S). Absoolutely love it. Going on 5 years in August with over 18000 miles. I'd love to hace a second bike. I love the distance you can get out of the larger batteries. Mine is a 52V, 19.2 Ah battery.
Great episode, love the trance again. Bikes and trance go so well
You should try a high end ebike from someone like santa cruz,specialized,yt industries,nukeproof etc. You'll be blown away by the build quality and performance!! These are relatively cheap and built on a budget and wouldn't last long on red or black runs...or on drops or jumps.
High end ebikes also have more aggressive geometry, shorter stems,wider bars,dropper posts,27.5 or 29 inch wheels,tubeless tyres and lots of ways to tune and dial in the suspension.(good ones starting at 4k and up to 12k)
I ride a lapierre e-zesty 9.2 which weighs in at 20kg with the battery and motor in. If you ever get a chance ,try one. You'd really enjoy it but you'd want to keep it👍
Yeah we had an 8K spesh ebike in at one point, lovely engineering but no power... too much red tape on the legal ebikes unfortunately.
They are NOT riding trail, they are putting around "gravel" paths. The people buying these have zero interest is a blue trail, much less a black run.
@@bindingcurve if it was for riding gravel/ a gravel bike it wouldn't have front and rear suspension and it definitely wouldn't need a tripple crown fork!!🤫
happy to see you on ebike after a long time
Huh?! I'm always on ebikes😁
The bottom bracket looks like that because it fits either the bafang m620 or m600 mid drive. They do this stuff to use one frame for like 10 different bikes
Anyone know how to derestrict a specialised turbo Vado 4.0 e-bike. I can’t find anything online about it
It's a hub drive motor.
Bafang m600 is 50% in size of a Bafang g510/m620
@@Fleetstreetbestone I looked into this and it involved a dongle for about 140 quid, if memory serves me
@@stillben could you link it
Better than a mid drive? Probably not. I converted a MTB into a 750w Befang mid drive powered bike and I've got 120+nm on a 55lb bike. Don't get me wrong, I'm loving what I see with that Cyrusher Ranger. It might be my next bike.
Can't believe the tracks around all that country you have access to!
To get the right grip off to add the twist throttle, there is an allen bolt in the little hole on the end of the bar that needs to be loosened first.
Nice, thanks 👍🏻
Well cool mountain bike , love the fat tyres Andy 🤟👍
I love my Cyrusher Kommodo,so far so good 👍🏻
Nice finish and colour. looks a nice bike.
Really nice looking bike. I want to get one in new zealand, for my wife.
It should have the motor in the midle of the bike and not on the rear rim...that kills the motor on gravel/debris/jumps and the advantage of a rear shock! But it's a good looking ebike! also use gel inside the tires...like Flat-Out or something like that...cause tires are gonna be flat more sooner then later! ask me how i know! :)
Hi Andy, I stumbled upon this video and glad I did, a mate has a similar model Cyrusher ebike, the name caught my attention. I've been on the fence about ebikes mainly because of the price's, but I do need one to help give me back the incentive to get outside again after being diagnosed with mental health issues, PTSD and depression. I believe your honest about this bikes performances, in your opinion would it suit a 60 going on 30 year old that needs to get back out into the wilderness again. I'm a UK resident.
Hello,not knowing the full extinct of your health issues. I've been riding an electric bike since 2016. I had a minor stroke in Dec. 2019. I'm still riding bike # 2. I just turned 65. My bike is a fat tire bike as well. I love my bike. Juiced Bike Rip Current S model. Good luck to you mate.
10 miles @ 82% = 55 mile range at your average assistance level. I dare you to test that on an all-day trip.
Nice bike Andy!
Andy I'm surprised to see how you have setup the bikes seat. You are not even close to getting full leg extension while riding. Another question, I notice the key in the side of the battery compartment, is that necessary or did you forget to take it out before riding.
Very nice and should be good on wear and tear with the chain only transmitting the user input rather than the motor force.
Looks really nice and there are some accessories to make it practical, if you can only have one bike, it's got to do everything.
I would probably go for smaller tyres in the long run but have to admit that they do look cool.
GOOD WATCH ANDY GOOD TUNES
That was hilarious 😂 😂😂..I would put money on it that the company who sent you that bike actually watched that footage and creased up with laughter! When you got to your mums you looked like a crime scene from Charlotte's Webb...😂😂you were wearing every splattered bug known to man! Lmao,kin tonto😂😂😂..my god and the blinking handle bars on back to front! Now that takes first place.. I can't wait for the next company to contact you and want you to review something else 😂😂 😀 the latest electric scooter 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 fabulous video, brilliant well done.
Good looking machine.
⚡🤙🏼 *This brand makes a lotta interestin stuff!* 🤙🏼⚡
Nice, impressive ebike.
Andy you need more stuff on your vapour ebike as I've just changed my gear to peak gear up the power to asi bac850 it's complete differently animal now try it out your vapour ebike
Great review - thanks. Where is the track you used? looks great and might be worth travelling for...
I want one!
Did you keep the bike and how’s it holding up after a year??
Superb. If only I could afford one !
tripple crown is overkill ....in my opinion ....i love this bike ..but personally i would prefer single crown ....it aint never going to ride it downhill as hard as possible to even make any proper use of double
Kinda wish some these bikes would stop putting double crown forks on bike that never going to see it used right
Maybe they did it for weight? this thing is like 90lbs
I’m sure they do it for looks as well and looks sell 🤷♂️ win win
question would you pay the price there asking or would you spend less on another bike?
no rack and no fenders.
E bikes need singers sawing machine style charger in seat, can use body
Anyone know how to derestrict a specialised turbo Vado 4.0 e-bike. I can’t find anything online about it
Was there a link to that upgraded rotor and adapters?
Can you review the Himiway cobra pro please Andy ?
Andy it looks a nice bike it will be prise to be onist it's not my cup of tea I'd rather keep my bike 28mph it looks as if your at the Jim on one of them pedal machine to much work out for me probably for a younger person like the colour and frame rear suspension and front good good brakes it's a well built bike
hi i got this bike today. but it only going 16 mph , any advise . thanks good videos
I bought the previous version XF800 and it is crap. The "1000w" motor is really a 500w that was defective from arrival and has been replaced for the XF900. Manufacturer will not warranty defects. Buyer Beware!
Great looking bike, I have a fiido m21 with a torque sensor, and I love it. Seems a bit down on power though which I put down to the controller. However I don't know of any upgrades for a controller with torque sensors?
Yeah I have the M21 with the torque sensor it's a great bike for the money.
@@simonbean1264 I'm wondering if it's possible to get more speed from it whilst keeping the torque sensor as its a lot of fun but I'm not sure it's possible
I want a cadence sensor
try the Sondors Rockstar. looks a lot like this one. they are awsome and inexpensive. i can go up 45deg. hills in power nine all day long and not even break a sweat.
How much can you get one for?
I Lille your bike helmet, mind me asking what make/model it is?
Makes me miss my ebikes ...
Tongshen mid drive motors are cheap and they have torque sensors, apparently its a more natural way of having electrical assist. I think I am going to get one of the kits and upgrade a cheap mountain bike.
Have you been on a fat tire bike with front and rear motors? I think that could be a good way to have power but also not catch plods beady eye on the streets.
its cool but fat tyres and full suspension? the rolling resistance and weight of the fat tyres is pretty pointless. i just dont see the logic behind it.
Not everything's about logic
I just received mine, indeed the pedaling assistance with the torque sensor is great, but it's such a shame that the throttle grip is clamped at 28mph (32km/h) and that it is impossible to unclamp (disconnecting the wire from the controller and modifying the speed in the settings does not change anything)
So your say that what the chap in the video did was a waste of time and did nothing ?
@@timexironman100mwhen you purchase the bike it can go 15.5 mph. When disconnecting the red wire the bike can go 28 mph.
Hi Andy ,
If you have to choose, cyrushere or the Vapour what will it be ? It has almost the same pricetag.
They are different bikes. This is kind of like a cross between the 5000S and the vapour. Vapour is an eMTB at heart, this is like a fat ebike motorbike kind of thing 🤣
Is this mod free and out of the box?
Got a few k to let rip on and do like your recommendations
Is it possible to switch between torque and cadence assist?
Nice bike I'm building 1000w fatbike
Hi Andy is the cyrusher worth getting or are you better of getting the branded bikes eg trek canyon ect not sure if you have done a vid on this dilemma
Hi Mate I keep getting error 21 on my display when I’m riding. It’s usually after ragging out about for 15 minutes. Any idea how I can stop this error from happening, and how to fix it when it happens? Usually I’ll turn the bike off and leave it for a bit then it’s fine
When you fitting one of your motors to one Andy?
Great review!
One question though. What’s the track accompanying the 16:55 onwards segment? Shazam has given me a dozen different answers, none of which are right!
He probably made the song himself, He does produce his own music.
When you go on the website it has two options 250w and 750w which did you get? If you go for a 750w do they ship it restricted?
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
Hi Andy , how does it compare to a vapour?
How are the erginomics as far as reach and grip feel?
I do like the Cyrusher bikes I got a Cyrusher xf650
Great review! Was their rattling, going over all that terrain? Or was it pretty solid?
There was a bit and it has got a bit worse over time.
Have you seen Cooler King Kub ebike yet?
🤙 good work.. but please snip the ziptie on your handle bars ... it got to me sorry.. 🤣
Yeah keep meaning to do that 😅
Cool
👌
What motor is in this
Kinda sucks, they dont ship to outside of the U.K
So for full power just disconnect 1 wire ?
Basically yes
Thanks can’t wait to get mine👍
Can you give the music name at 16:55 pls ? :)
I have Saturation by @andy kirby
Like these bikes only bit prices especially as made in China surley some middle men making more than manufacturers i do like heavy construction but are components quality cant find what is on them ,ebikes across the range way over priced but if I was in market probably look at one of these
Nice looker - I likey
Beware of Cyrusher Ranger - Total Scam!
I purchased a Cyrusher Ranger bike and am utterly disappointed with the quality and customer service. After just a few kilometers, the display was already broken. It took a lot of effort and time before they finally sent me a new display. It's misleading that they claim to be based in France because the phone number provided on their website is unreachable.
After receiving the new display and taking a test ride, I found that the assistance no longer supports up to 25 km/h but only up to 15 km/h. The worst part is that the brakes no longer work. I nearly had an accident that could have been fatal. Additionally, the brakes make an unbearable squeaking noise.
When I contacted customer service, they told me to go to a bike shop and have oil added. This is an unacceptable solution for a brand-new bike that was just purchased.
I will now pursue legal action if I can even find a contact person. It appears that the parts come from China, not France. This is a deliberate deception to create the impression of having a contact in Europe. Absolute scam!
People, beware and stay away from this bike. It is completely dangerous, and the customer service is terrible. Definitely avoid the Cyrusher Ranger
If anyone need I can have any Lankeleisi product in week delivery 😊
Do u do u sell normal made with bikes giant bike or whatever
See his mates channel dude stuff which sells plenty of conversions
I hope you didn't lose the key you left in the lock. 👊🏻
Wouldn't bother with any of these if located in the UK. Customer service is shocking. Purchased the crusher FX 800 lasted a year. For a 2k bike it's robbery and customer support is horrendous don't expect anything from them, bike shops will not touch it either
Yeah the FX800 doesn't look like value for money, you could build better for cheaper, you'd struggle to build a ranger for the asking price I think.. things are getting better. If you bought any of these kind of bikes from a bikeshop they would be 1.5-2x more to cover their costs of support etc.
As Andy mentioned in the first minute and just dawned on me as well, this bike should be great to service. My own midmotor ebike I could not change the motor myself when it gave up but this one... If they send me a new rear wheel and instructions, no problem.
It's not just crusher, It's these type of ebikes in general.. If you have electrical problems, No 'normal' bike/ebike shop will touch them! Unless you know someone, Or specific shop, That will deal with custom style bikes (As long as the bike hasn't got any proprietary components (hard to work on or replace), Then you are left in the cold and hoping nothing does go wrong.
well at the least not 8/000 US
Great review but please can you speak a bit more slowly?! 😄
If you have problems with speech you can decrease playback speed in the settings tab on UA-cam videos.. Or increase if you are a fan of the chipmunks :)
@@danimayb thanks pal…life changing!😄
I bet it's a beasty price 🤣🤣
Sorry to be a killjoy,a but unless you are on private land with the owner's permission it is illegal to derestrict the speed limiter to give more than 16 mph.
In event of an accident it would take a lot of explaining and probably end up in a prosecution and a damages award. Also hand throttles are illegal even although they help immensely on a cadence actuated motor. The again sorry to be a killjoy but i just want you to be aware of the legal situation and to warn you of possible prosecution and civil litigation. You pays your money and takes your chance.
Thanks for the review. But nope. You could hear how bad that rattle is. And over time, because of the big weight, it will feel awful. And 23lbs heavier than something like a Turbo Levo, which is significantly better in quality. Spend your 2.5k on a near new quality mid-drive bike.
The turbo levo is a completely different type of bike but yeah I hear you.
@@andykirby Agreed, I am trying to inform those who don't know much on this subject, who don't want to be disappointed in spending 2.5k on a bike with obvious flaws.
How are the erginomics as far as reach and grip feel?