The difference is the supermodel had so much of her identity wrapped up in being a hot girl. finding out that any bit of that is not true would believably shatter her self-image and most likely irreparably damage the, admittedly toxic, relationship with her father. I can see someone having an outburst under those circumstances.
I was just going to post this. She had been held as a female ideal of beauty for 4 or 5 years, used it to her benefit/based her ID on it and that was shattered in an instant. On top of that, the specific cause was on something "inherently male": the testicle. The kid talking questioning "I'm a freak" was going through the transition of puberty which is hard enough as-is. The medical diagnosis of having both X and Y chromosomes would have only added to that confusion.
there actually is a real life successful model named hanne gaby odiele who is the same form of intersex as the character, although unlike the character she was a victim of uninformed medical intervention as a child. she found out she was intersex right after becoming a model, around the time that episode aired, but didn't publicly come out as intersex until a few years ago. a lot of intersex people keep it a secret. for many their intersex status is kept a secret from them until teen years, adulthood, or even their entire lives. in some cases even their families aren't aware while doctors treat them like test subjects. it's really upsetting.
@AcousticProton Exactly what I was thinking. Also, I remember in the episode the girl said she got her father drunk in order to get him to have sex with her so he’d do whatever she wanted him to. While this in NO WAY excuses the father, it shows how much worth she places on her beauty and as her being a female. Not only was the being a biological girl shattered, so was that manipulation of her father she’s worked hard to get.
I feel like the message about sexualising the 15 year old was not about the age of consent but more about her being a model and the industry sexualisng her and other young girls, contrasting that when its done face to face its obviously creepy and abhorant. I could be reading into this too much or not enough, though
This is what I came here to write!! He straight away points out she doesn’t look 15. Then later he points out the hypocrisy in that you can look in a magazine and see a sexualised photo of a girl without any information (I.e. age) and sexualise her. Yet he is now considered gross because he now knows her age, instead of her being photographed and presented appropriately for her age
No your point is pretty obvious considering the context of the episode and House's established character. The author of this video is just ignoring things that don't fit his narrative about what the show is trying to say.
This was exactly the point. House is saying these things in a "matter of fact" way because that's how the industry wants him to think of her. Yet he says it out loud to demonstrate to the team just how uncomfortable that ideology actually is and how toxic the industry is.
I swear to god in this episode, she chooses (it might be because of the abuse) to sleep with her father even, having internalized that she can get everything with her attractiveness.
I always thought the "overreaction" in Skin Deep was supposed to be a reflection of the patient's self-image issues, caused by the fashion industry. It's pretty traumatic to learn that your entire identity (in this case, the patient's femininity and looks) is based on a biologial fluke. A "your whole life is a lie" moment isn't the same as a confused kid who doesn't "fit in". A problem can't be dealt with so simply when you've built your entire self-image around it.
Yeaaah. Plus the whole thing with her dad, and him pretty obviously only showing her so much attention because of her femininity, not to mention the sexual shit... Yeaahh.
That would be deeply shocking revelation to anyone of pretty much any age. To discover that one of the fundamental truths and defining characteristics of yourself personhood is not what you thought it was… 🤯🤯🤯 It would change your perception of yourself in the world, in your relationships, your future. And your past. Add in being a hormonal teenager prone to big emotional reactions, and being told you have cancer which might just scare you shitless, I’d say they had a pretty understandable response. She didn’t vandalise the hospital, she pointed to evidence that she though would prove her point. She was scared and desperate.
But then we should ask: What truly changed? The patient just learned that she cannot have children and that's it. What further difference does it make? Where is the lie? I feel like instead of rubbing it in the patient by making the homo joke, House should have asked her these questions and tell her to leave the toxic modelling industry behind. We can theorize a lot about intent, but the right actions don't follow, all we can do is judge the bad actions.
9:58 however unlikable the chess-playing kid in "the Jerk" may have been, the actor did a flawless job with his delivery... he would've been a good returning character to contrast with House
Something that bothered me about that episode is that House plays chess with him and it appears that House decides his position is lost though he doesn't resign. He returns much later (maybe the next day) and has figured out how he can win the game from that position and the Jerk says he is correct. But you don't get to play that way. House didn't win. An hour or two after Deep Blue beat Kasparov in the last game of their match GM's studying the position discovered that Deep Blue played inaccurately and gave Kasparov a way to force a draw and save the game. Kasparov didn't find it and resigned. That doesn't mean that those GM's were better players than Deep Blue or Kasparov. I don't get the point of House saving the game.
Thirteen sleeping with women wasn't what was "self destructive". Her going partying every night, taking illegal drugs and hooking up with strangers because she figured she's dying anyway so who cares is what was treated as self destructive. The point was that she got a bad diagnosis and she stopped caring about her life at that point.
@@filipgasic2642 also he completely (deliberately?) misses the point about the baby ua-cam.com/video/ZpXUNhPjfLo/v-deo.html in a story , the ones with tragedy are usually the ones that receive sympathy. Seeing homophobia everywheredoesnt help…
I think you missed a lot of what you were supposed to read between the lines when you were dogging on House about his age of consent crack. House wasn't giving his explanations as an excuse for why *he* was "lusting" after her (because he wasn't). He was pointing out, in his typical acerbic way, that while Cameron has no problem showing disgust about the suggestion of *personal* attraction she had absolutely no problem with *society as a whole* doing exactly the same thing. It wasn't him trying to justify being a pervert; it was him pointing out the hypocrisy that "one man lusting after a 15 year old" is somehow more awful to her and more worthy of comment to her than "thousands of men lusting after a 15 year old" -- that if Cameron wanted to shower her indignation somewhere, he's not the party she should be most upset with. Similarly, his comments about her "rounded hips" and "bountiful breasts" weren't just him being licentious. He was referring to the physical signs that she's gone through puberty (with his usual lack of tact), and thus a lack of physical maturation isn't an acceptable reason for why she hasn't had a period; and he delivers the lines with his sarcastic tone that indicates they're not *his* feelings. That's not the say it's not Bryan Singer injecting his own kink into the content for whatever strange reasons he has; but it's not written nor does it come across as House being a would-be pedophile.
And also those are Important markers for Female maturity as if those are not expressed especially the Mens part than the patient has a condition. But being a film guy he kind of missed that.
Additionally in the context of the episode the comment about her "rounded hips" and "bountiful breasts" were House directly quoting what her FATHER had written about her/marketed her as. More social commentary, NOT him creeping on her. Don't know why he ignored that.
@@GippyHappy He missed that one completely. Which is surprising, for how many other things he got right. He got both the irony and the context in House's voice for all the racist comments, all of sexist comments, but this one he missed? And he said he watched it more than 20 times. And it's not like it was hidden between the lines or something, House implicitly states that he quoted her/his father's words. I watched it maybe 10 times, but I did not need to repeat it even once to get this, or any other context of the show. Bummer. We'll se if he missed something else in other videos. To get something like this wrong in such a huge project is surprising, at least.
@@GippyHappy I don't know. Same with the "bring your own transvestite to the double date" thing. It was not that he had any problems with her, I mean, he brought her as his date, in public. It was just that he hated the very concept of having to even deal with Wilson's wife, so he wanted to make it as awkward as possible to everyone so they give up on a possibility of being together and having to deal with House's mining of their every attempt at normal relationship. To impose insensitivity on someone who has the most liberal views of any character in TV shows history, I just do not know where it came from.
@@92brunod it doesn’t surprise me anymore tbh. People ARE like that now. They’d say they’re 1-200th Asian so it is xenophobic. Very sad, delusional, disconnected from reality, and sensitive.
@@nate87799 "disillusioned" is the exact wrong word you mean to use, btw. Disillusioned means to discover and know the real truth. Imagine they were previously "illusioned" (believed something incorrect) / had the wool pulled over their eyes, but then you disillusion them by taking the wool off and letting them see the truth.
In skin deep when he describes her body he's quoting lines in a magazine written by her father. He makes fun of her sexuality to turn him off from sleeping with his child again and to turn others off as well as herself since she's being used because of her hyper feminity. U did bring up some good points though.
For years I've been waiting for channels like Screenprism, Wisecrack, Nerdwriter1, etc. to cover House M.D. but didn't really think I'd ever actually get an in depth, masterful analysis of the series because even shows like The Sopranos or The Wire don't really get much attention these days. This channel has made that long, long anticipation worthwhile.
Yeah, all great analisys channels. It takes passion to analyse something to this level of depth, and most people don't have the deep love for House that Jesse shows, while these more "artistic" shows such as Sopranos attract that analytical look, House as a procedural series might be considered just average by many.
I think part of what's great, and even necessary, about analysises...analysi...?...overviews about shows like this with a lot of history and nuance is because for a lot of people who didn't catch them when they where the zeitgeist it can feel really overwhelming or useless to go back and try and watch them, especially years removed from the context in which they where made. With these...overviews, you can appreciate the series and learn about it, how it worked, how it was structured, how it evolved, without needing a time machine or sinking dozens of hours(and possibly dollars) into watching it yourself and still walk away informed enough to have discussions about it. And hey, if you really like what you see, you can hop on and consume it as well!
The freakout in the supermodel episode was not about gender itself, it was about the girl identifying (and being perceived, treated as) a symbol of mainstream beauty, crucial part of which is that she thought she was a woman. That is why she strips her clothes and explaims "I am beautiful". The episode and the speech is not about gender identity, it is about the absurd ideas of beauty. That is also the reason House keeps dropping the jokes which make everyone uncomfortable despite the fact the 15 year old is an overly sexualized swimsuit model.
"...crucial part of which is that she thought she was a woman." "The episode and the speech is not about gender identity..." Uh-huh. So a crucial reason behind her actions is that she identifies as a woman, but those actions are not about the fact that she identifies as a woman. I see. This makes everything very clear.
Yeah, I don’t think so. I think this is about the fact that this ep is written by a man and has some really gross objectifying and wish fulfillment going on. For one thing, runway models do not typically have “bountiful breasts.” That’s a man’s idea of a model.
I always interpreted the lewd comments House makes in the episode with the 15 year old super model as him over emphasizing the morality of underage girls being or aspiring to be supermodels when it's an industry that's typically over sexualized.
16:59 Wouldn't that be because your entire identity up to that point, directly related to your career, largely attached to how you see yourself and are seen by others, especially as a young and beautiful woman, who has a greater deal of societal worth at that point than most others groups of people, would not be as jeopardized by that revelation in modern day, as opposed to the early 2000s? Especially if you find out about it on top of having cancer and nearly dying in a hospital already?
She is also 15 and a victim of sexual abuse at a young age. Being 15 and receiving a cancer diagnosis in the rudest way imaginable makes it very likely she would respond irrationally and emotionally, and sexual abuse can cause the victims to act inappropriately sexual, especially combined with the general sexualisation and commodifacition of her body. All in all, I don't think her response was that unrealistic.
Nice essay. I love houses early seasons because as you mention they get more time to breath. More realistic human dialogue that felt super grounded and like the writers really cared a lot.
It's possible that House could identify with "freaks" and still utilize one to further his own ends. Not unlike him using racial slurs to meet his ends. He doesn't use them in casual conversation, but he will use them to elicit a desired reaction. He may have thought Sarah and Wilson would have been uncomfortable with his date choice w/o actually agreeing with the reason for their discomfort.
In fact considering his propensity for smugness & general superiority complex, then him being ok with his date but others being less accepting would fit his character perfectly.
Even if that was the case, he would still be relying on them to act uncomfortable in front of his trans date at the expense of his trans date. It would still be at the expense of a living, breathing, feeling person. Even if he "got what he wanted" he would walk away smug while a trans woman would walk away feeling humiliated or worse.
@@marians1436 Ah yes! The great Dr. House, kind and empathetic. Who always cared about the feelings of others, became a doctor because he wanted to become the new Patch Adams. Or wouldn't this be the doctor who said, and I quote, "Did you come for my feelings? Because I left 'em in my other pants." But it seems to me that you think transsexuals are much more fragile than they really are. Come on, all that testosterone in their vein has got to have some effect other than a girly beard!
Agree and eas thinking the exact same the moment everything was being said. This has started going way south on some political correctness rants and reaches. Gonna stop watching this.
There is nothing wrong with her reaction in my opinion. Because it's about herself, and how she sees herself. Especially back then. Even today, you have people who are proud of who they are. They will care if they have lived a lie their entire life. Could you imagine the shock? finding out something like that? If word gets out, her career is compromised because of the people who won't accept her for being different. And the fact that she doesn't care about showing her body shows her confidence and pride in what she does. She's not afraid to be objectified.
no no no no... he's not taking a shot at the age of consent; he's taking a shot at the hypocrisy of the culture which props up female adolescence as the sexual ideal. he knows that expressing an attraction to her is repugnant, but what does that moral outrage really mean when adult sexual attraction is the explicit goal of the industry and the culture that supports and emulates it? i thought it was brilliantly cringe in that the discomfort we're supposed to feel about it IS the message. the faux-outrage of her father reflects the contradiction in ourselves when we perform morals that don't reflect our inner experience, like men quietly wanting to be with her and women quietly wanting to be like her. i get your critique and i'm digging most of your analysis on all these installments, but i don't think you're giving the episode enough credit. the handling of sexual identity in that episode was abysmal tho.
Yeah I agree, his sexualization of her was intentionally over the top; he was just doing what media and society told him he's supposed to do; drool over her, sexualize her, want her. He says it pretty explicitely but what's different in this episode is he isn't targeting his criticism at any one character but at everyone because they're all a part of it. I also don't think "Calling you a homo" is out of place; he was mocking the father's misplaced priorities and subtly pointing out that he STILL FUCKED HIS CHILD Now, with the underage girl who comes onto House, I think he was playing up the sexual stuff to cover up for his own insecurity since he isn't actually used to being aggressively pursued by women.
I think if that was the intent... And I believe that to a certain extent it was... They should have made more of an effort to show that. It just comes off as him being actually creepy.
That phrase you kept re-editing in was actually said by the model's father in the magazine. House was during the entirety of the episode trying to go on the hunch that the father slept with his child. To feed into this notion, he was consistently making the point that the father monetizes his underage child's sexuality as a manager and there is reasonable doubt that he would exploit the child outright sexually as well. For someone who watched the series more than 20 times as you claim, that is a huge oversight - since you made this whole video pretty much on that same phrase. To repeat, the phrase did not belong to House, he did not say it. He kept quoting the model's father from the magazine to prove a point towards a hunch. Perhaps time to re-watch skin deep for you :)
His utterances of “now It’s creepy” are very clearly opinions he attributes to the father. So no, hes not homophobic. Is this creator deliberately misreading ?
It's interpreted in the way it is because of a current fad in gender politics. The modern take on gender identity was completely non-existent and unimaginable when the episode was made. My guess is this video analysis will age more poorly than that episode.
@@darkwingscooter9637 Agreed. It's not even a question of whether the current opinions and attitudes are valid/accurate, its the fact the people who believe them let the issues cloud their judgement and analysis. The first 2 parts in this series demonstrate the creator is very capable of breaking down roles, lines, meanings etc but when it comes to this specific topic he allows his opinions on the topic to create a blindspot and miss simple things.
I discovered Bon Iver’s song Re:Stacks because of the season 4 finale. On top of all the incredible storytelling and character, I’m thankful this show introduced that song to me. It’s a beautiful song
Same! It literally became MY song for months after I saw it on the show, and I still love it now. There are a bunch of other songs I first heard on the show that I like, and I often find that the feelings I attach to the song are related to the feelings the songs were used to convey in the episode. At times the song choice is really perfect for a scene, and encapsulating the emotions of the characters, and the words they are thinking but don't say.
The house soundtrack was so, so good! A solid half of my favorite musical artists, I found because they were featured on House and Bones. "My" house song is "Maggot brain" by Funkadelic, it plays when a drug deal is going down with the undercover agent who orchestrated it dying from his disease, sixth season I think. The song itself is so emotional, and it's used perfectly, as is RE: Stacks.
Jesse, I’m curious what you think about this regarding the two intersex characters and when they realized they’re genetically different from the way they were raised. Alex being thrown into the toxic supermodel world definitely didn’t help her with her reaction to finding out she’s actually a male. Her reaction to strip also probably comes from having had sex with her father. She was far more damaged than Jackson from The Softer Side. Jackson had two loving parents who also knew about his condition and tried to shield him from finding out, but the way they raised him helped shape his personality to be a kinder, gentler soul. Although I think Jackson is younger than Alex, mentally Jackson was more mature because of the differences in their lives. Jackson went to school like an average kid while Alex was out supermodeling and being exposed to that “adult” life. So is Alex’s reaction of taking off her clothes yelling “I’m a girl” really that unexpected, especially since she had sex with her dad.
Even if you can rationalize Alex's reaction, I thought House's doesn't make sense for the character, and we are left with some shitty homophobia/transphobia/sexual fundamentalism. When I saw that episode, I thought Alex was a woman through and through since birth, everyone's reaction were kind of stupid and gross, no matter what her reaction would be they tried not to see her as a woman no more, and her reaction feels as though the writers tried to justify not liking her.
@@vanillaannihilation5871 I don't know if I agree with the take "the writers were portraying Alex as unlikable". I always viewed Alex's character as being a *tragic* one, through and through.
I think you didn't catch the part where House outright says that Alex yelling she's a girl in desperation is part of the disease. The tumor in the never-grown testicle makes her body secrete extreme levels of testosterone, leading to sudden bouts of aggression and rage (like when she attacks another model for no reason). It's the same thing happening again, the shock of just being told her entire identity is a lie causes her to have another bout of aggression and rage that leads to her stripping while proclaiming she's a girl. At which point House outright says that's "the tumor talking", and that once they cut it, she'll be fine.
Um, she's not a male. She's intersex. There are five characteristics of biological sex and only two of them for her end up being masculine (gonads and chromosomes). Hormones, primary sex characteristics, and secondary sex characteristics are all very feminine for her
As a minor note, with House's age of consent comment in "Skin Deep" I perceived that more as a jab at the modeling industry than the age of consent. the idea that someone can be sexualized that much before being the age of consent being somewhat ludicrous, you know
Another point about lighting, I love the change in lighting in the super depressing episodes, it makes you so tense as you know bad things are ahead. The shots are immediately more dark, sunlight is rarely shown, and everything seems to be more defined. The episode regarding Cuddys mother’s illness is a great example, if my memory serves correctly.
So glad somebody mentioned that episode, the way it starts, extremely vibrant with bright colours, and how it gets darker and more and more muted towards the end is unsettling as hell, one of the best examples for outstanding cinematography in the entire show
Kutner's death and discovery of his body by Foreman and Thirteen is the one that I go to when discussing lighting. The case I didn't care about or for. I didn't see how a woman dying while her husband lived made much sense to the theme of his suicide?, it just confused me but the Kutner storyline was gripping, depressing and I loved every second of it, including the music.
you compared two completely different situations: 1-A teenage model in the peak of her popularity, being shared everywhere on magasins and such, her self image is practically her whole identity and it's pretty hard to blame her either for all the explotation she had to go through, plus probably no one she ever meets in her life goes through the first obvious layer, which is her beauty, compliments, being hit on, stares at awe, all of that, consitutes a day in her life, and she never seemed "unhappy" in her life. 2-a child that already feels like he's a girl, but knows he's a boy, in a much calmer environment (which is easily seen at the difference of the room they are in, no dr house, only the two parents who are worried, not disgusted) the model got stripped (no pun intended) of her life, she had fame, fortune and beauty, what most 15 year olds want anyway! so i think it's wrong to think that these two are any similar. second point is house being too "weird" quoting mostly of what the parent said in the interviews does not make him weird, but taking it out of context kind of is.
@@cosipurple occam's razor is the term which means the simplest explanation is the likeliest one (or something). It also uses the phrase "when you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras"
@@deborasolum5324 and due to the nature of the show (unlikely diseases) chasing zebras always stroke me as a great reference. Btw I took the chance to Google and according to Wikipedia chasing zebras was the working title of the show, I think it would have been clever, but I have to agree that simply House is a much better show title.
Yup as someone with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, the mascot is a zebra for this exact reason. (Although in the case of connective tissues conditions I think they are way more common than medics realize. So I guess it's more like having the same phrase/attatude but in a zoo.)
At 21:12, House is intrigued by his “stalker” but he tries to fend her off (she keeps coming back ofc). He was flattered bc she was so young but he even flat out told her she was too young.
You make the point that the writer is having house show up with a Transgender person for shock value, but then also say that Wilson and Sam carry on normally. A bit of a contradiction to say that the writers are pushing some kind of agenda, but then also have them write the scene at dinner where it's completely normal besides House being annoyed. That would mean that the agenda they are pushing is even when the most important or main person (or House, in this instance) is transphobic etc, it doesn't mean that everyone else has to be.
That's what I felt like the writers wanted to portray. I understand misinterpreting the super model episode, but that dinner scene felt pretty straightforward to me.
@@Aster_Risk Nothing is straightforward if the straightforward meaning clashes with the narrative you want to push. You HAVE to bend over backwards to make it fit into your narrative as hard as you can.
The hermaphrodite episode isn’t about ogling a 15 year old it’s about house ridiculing beauty standards. Don’t forget it’s not just any 15 year old, it’s a 15 year old *model* that looks 27 on purpose. In the storyline nobody not even her FATHER cares that she is 15 or that she is his DAUGHTER. I think specifically the episode points out how beautiful people can get dehumanised and objectified very easily
How someone can interpret an episode called “skin deep” so wrong baffles me. The episode isn’t about gender, gender plays a relatively small part in it only to throw in a curveball at the end
When House was describing the supermodel's body, from what I remember, he immediately goes on to say that he didn't come up with that description and that it was actually written by her father acting as her publicist. So his actual point was that her father is really, really suspicious since that's all super creepy when placed in that context. This essay is quoting House out of context, saying he's got nothing going on but lust when that wasn't the case. The lust is definitely there and part of what he's saying but not all of it.
Yeah I legit feel like he TOTALLY missed the point of Skin Deep and even misrepresented a lot of what happened. Like how does he not get that it was a commentary on the modeling industry, and it had nothing to do with being trans or really gender at all, it was a cool twist showing the hypocrisy in "oh it was fine to have sex with your daughter, but your SON? That's too far".
Like most of the commenters I don't understand your points about the 15 year old. It may have been a video editing issue since it came right after a section where you talked about how House says all sorts of things he doesn't actually mean to get reactions or results. Suddenly, in this particular episode, he's just being honest with everyone all the time? It feels like you had a 'reaction' to the episode the first time you watched it and saw what you either wanted or expected to see. Committing that to video is fairly brave but I wholeheartedly disagree with almost all of it.
To some of the initiated, gay and transgender issues are so holy as not to be touched except in the most doting ways possible. Seems like this critic is one of those initiated.
@@mikewilliams6025 hate to see it. Makes me realize this is as good as it gets, the other parts before and hopefully after this. Oh well, a lot of potential lost to the dark gods again
yes he says House is lusting the girl the whole time by saying comments about her hips and breasts when in reality House is quoting something DIRECTLY from her father. he literally says so when he confronts the father. now way someone who knows this much about the show and has watched the show 20 times "at least" would miss this. he intentionally left it out to push his own narrative
The thing about editing is that you don't accidentally edit something in this way. During editing he has every opportunity to correct himself and fix things and yet never does. Then he publishes the video that way. His writing in these videos has been consistent and good up until this topic and that's when you can see his emotion take over his rational mind. He made a conscious, and petty decision with this video.
That post you made about copyright issues with this series really got me. But when I heard Teardrop and No Surprises in the first episode, let alone the obvious abundance of clips from a network TV show, I can't say it was surprising. Props to you for sticking with the series in spite of UA-cam's awful policies.
WTF why are you here? Don't you have a kink to shame, or an impoverished cooking channel to besmirch? Much like house and his homophobic comments, I still watch you... But wow do I like you less every time.
I hate to tell you this, but the music you hear in the episodes on DVD were _NOT_ the songs used when the show was originally broadcast. Broadcast used licensed music from real artists. The DVDs used generic or "library" music that has no copyright. This is done because the studios don't want to keep paying royalties on the songs used in broadcast for each purchase of a DVD set. House is _NOT_ the only show that does this. Some streaming services will have the licensed music instead of the library music.
Video 1 and 2... great breakdowns and in depth reviews of episodes and characters. Video 3... a 20 minute diatribe about how a tv show hurts modern peoples feelings and says mean words about gay people.
I’m gay and I always laugh at the line: “No, a joke would be calling you a homo.” It’s hilarious to see how House labels him differently even though his actions and desires are totally antithetical to that identity.
@@CharlieQuartz I love that line, and it's actually an example of amazing writing, where House both insults him for sleeping with his child, and insults him for assuming his doctor is lying to him
This entire series has come at a great time in my life as I'm experiencing a lot of difficulties and it is helping me to feel a lot better and get in touch with the side of me that has been so attached to this show for some reason. Thank you, dearly.
It's wild to me that I only watched this all once, years and years ago, but as soon as you break into a scene it happens to be an episode I actually remember. Guess that means those were the ones that were meant to stick with me
It was done to save money, which was the only way they could make it in the first place and then last 8 years. Ironically, you're both bloody stupid and in black and white (pops a vicodin)
I’ve been watching the first two parts everyday for the past week. I almost jumped for joy when I saw this video’s title. One of the best made UA-cam series I’ve ever seen
It only appears that way because they hate nuclear families that much more 15 years later. By comparison, the mid 2000s seem like a bastion of traditional values, despite that clearly not being the case, either on television or in real life.
I feel like you are projecting how stupid you think the audience is onto the writers of the show - the point of bringing the trans woman to dinner was to reinforce to the audience how immature House actually is. The viewers of the show knew that it was a ridiculous thing to do and were never going to fall for the "OMG he brought a trans prostitute to dinner - I need to clutch my purse!" crap. I think the show assumes the audience has a decent amount of intelligence and can recognise when House is being childish. That's kinda the point of the entire show isn't it??
The writers write often in a way that doesn't take his side. It's one of the most interesting aspects of the show - he's not necessarily the good guy, and in many situations he's the opposite.
But you're only reinforcing his point, we can only know that it' childish and/or a ridiculous thing to do if there is and underlying assumption that bringing a trans woman is more ridiculous/childish than bringing a regular woman. This is reinforced later when Wilson tells Cuddy: "second time he brought a transvestite hooker to dinner". The inappropriateness that is being implied here doesn't come from the fact that she's a hooker, which is totally normal for house. Now sure Trans could've been swapped out for slutty or old or gross but in order for that whole plot to work house has to bring someone that is supposedly disruptive because there is something wrong with them that can be designed for comedic setup reversal. So while the show may not be saying "clutch your purse" it is saying that bringing a Trans woman to dinner is supposed to be disruptive.
@@jordanschoenenberger4397 he wasnt reinforcing Jesse's point. What he meant is that just bc House thinks bringing a transsexual hooker to a dinner is more offensive than bringing a normal one doesnt mean the writers or the characters around House or even House himself think the same. It can merely be a point they made about House's childishness, and in fact, House's childishness is further exacerbated if we assume the writers and the characters didnt think bringing a transsexual hooker is somehow worse. House himself doesnt even have to believe transsexuality is offensive to pull this prank. He could merely be playing on common societal stereotypes, as he often does. And I believe this was the case here, because the characters around House arent annoyed by the Hooker or the Hooker being transsexual. They dont act disgusted or anything. They are annoyed by House's childishness - his immature attempt to provoke others in such a ridiculous way. Jesse's argument would hold only if the others actually took offense at the Hooker's transsexuality. Again, this is not the case. Never once is she treated condescendingly. The characters only take offense at House's immaturity and provoking behavior. And this is what Jesse missed.
@@MarzipanCat. But the only thing that makes that action childish is that it's a transexual, bringing a hooker in itself would not be very childish. This presumption leads into the comedic reversal of House not getting the reaction he wanted, and I don't blame House, I blame the writer. So if your entire argument is about childishness, then you must acknowledge that what makes the action childish is bringing a trans woman.
@@jordanschoenenberger4397 its not only House's behavior that counts but also the characters' reaction to it (which are of course also determined by the writers). House trying to aggravate people by bringing a transsexual hooker and then the other characters being offended not by the hooker but by House's childish attempt to piss them off with a transsexual hooker is a whole other message. I know this is a bit complicated and I have a hard time finding the right words. Basically, what I think happened is this: All the characters, Wilson, House, and Cuddy know that a transsexual person is nothing special, nothing to be offended by. However, House in his childish mind tries to annoy his friend by playing on widespread societal stereotypes that say transsexual hookers are disgusting (while personally not agreeing with them. He just had to hope it works on his friend). And then Wilson and Cuddy are embarrassed by the length he goes to to annoy them, thinking "yeah dude im not embarrassed by the transsexual hooker, Im embarrassed by your attempt to aggravate me by trying to get me with outdated stereotypes". In other words, House's behavior shows that the society he lives in holds negative views against transsexuals, but he as well as his friends make it clear that they perceive these stereotypes as outdated. And that is why those scenes arent toxic.
I think a huge aspect of Houses "edginess" works so well because the most universal premise of his practice is the Virtuoso drive to engage in an issue from any angle, even (or especially) the obscene ones. I am not saying it excuses or justifies the transgressions of the writing I just think it is the reason why it works so well with House as a character.
The "circle" rant/speech is still so important to me... I do think that character fluctuations have a lot to do with the medium - the different writers taking on every episode. So Doris Egans House is different from Shores' House, and that's how this medium works. I do wish House was written like the character who delivered the circle speech more often than someone who wanted to weird out his best friend by bringing a trans prostitute to dinner. Representation is a hard thing to implement and talk about, thank you for tackling it! I'm very glad you're analyzing it from both a doylist and a watsonian perspective, and using other academic lenses. This series is shaping up to be amazing, and I'm so glad you're doing it. I already predict that 6 hours will still leave me wanting more, and that this will have an immense rewatch value for me. Thank you!
Absolutely, the circle speach is a great way to have a character be brash and make those around him feel comfortable, but in a way that is constructive and demonstrates House's intelligence, rather than just being mean spirited. I have seen some shows with multiple writers where characters feel consistent throughout, but it's definitely difficult, especially in a serialized format that goes on for 8 seasons.
I agree that some episodes have a less sensitive tone when dealing with gender, sexuality, wokeness and such, than we might expect today from such a well made show. That being said, House' dinner companion was (like Wilson said on 27:46 btw) a transvestite, meaning a person dressed like the opposite gender. A biological man dressing like a woman isn't necessarily a trans woman. Plenty of cross dressers aren't transgender at all, they dress up as a drag thing, maybe as some kind of role play or fetish, or just for fun. Actually all these points have been popular in urban gay subcultures for many decades. To me the scene doesn't look like House "dating" a trans woman but a gay man in drag, who expects a "date" with some rich closeted sugar daddy, who prefers to pretend that his callboys are ladies or so. There's quite a bit of depth in that scene.
Maybe you're right but house calls his date "she" and says "you know how girls are" and things like that. And we don't get her perspective so I think you're making a bit of a leap on his date's perspective. But you're right they describe his date inconsistently.
@@Billsbob Translation: There's only a subjective now set up by people higher in the pyramid than the average joe, as well as their changing standards. I can go for opulent vocabulary as well, chief.
You completely misunderstand Skin Deep for someone who allegedly watched the show >20 times, and come up with the most trendy and template modern critique on it
I don't think House's intentions in any of the "House's 'underage sex' comments" were intended to make a statement of any kind. House was just pulling everyone's leg on those conversations. His back and forth with Cameron feels like a critique of how the media sexualizes people regarless of their age, if anything. P.s.: I ain't trying to be mean, but a former worker of that show ignoring you on Twitter doesn't mean anything. EDIT: Maybe that's just my POV, but I also don't think that Thirteen's on and off relationships with other girls were meant to be seen as destructive *because* they were homosexual in nature. I always thought they were meant to be seen as destructive because they were *one night stands.* Her relationship with Foreman was shown in a favorable light because it was a serious, steady relationship; by two main characters, to boot.
yeah, but she wasn't exactly having those one night stands with men too. I remember watching it when I was younger and thinking, "oh yeah woman can have relationships/sleep with other other woman, but those relationships aren't serious." Fast-forward to now, I'm just like I can't believe I thought that. And I was around like 13 or 14 when I started watching house, it was already in it's 4th or 5th season
that painting guy to be fair, thirteen was a private person and we didn’t see much of any of her relationships in general. Also her having to think about her own mortality constantly, would lend to someone not maintaining long term relationships because, there’s not point in investing time into one person when you know your clock will run out.
I agree with the first part but as for 13 I remember there being a bit of buzz around her being overtly bi, then for her to not have long term relationships with women felt like a bit of a let down. Also on its own it's not that bad, I agree, but it is part of a huge problem of not depicting positive same sex relationships, particuarly women, on both the small & large screen. Like the Hays code is gone, please take your foot off the floor & write happy monogamous lesbians, neither of whom die!
The reaction of the gender reveal was in check with their personalities, i think, and her, exposing her body, its in accordance with how she see the role of his gender on herself.
regarding music in House, two pieces come to mind. One is "You can't always get what you want" from I believe s01e01 (and if I'm wrong, then somewhere else in season 1), which fits the episode (and the entire series) sooo so well. The other is Radiohead's No Surprises playing over the detox in s06e01 (I may again be wrong with the episode). Holy shitte, that was something spectacular.
First two parts: a thought-provoking, mentally stimulating critical analysis exploring the core mechanisms as well as subtle yet crucial nuances of a specific television show and applying it to the artistic realm as a whole from a timeless perspective and speaking to human truths that very few people would even have the ability to configure, let alone elucidate Third part: surface-level blither blather that a high school C student and half of modern society could conjure up on a whim that is completely antithetical to all of the knowledge about the human condition accumulated throughout the previous 99.9% of history--the remaining 0.1% being an era wrought with artificiality, denial of faith, degeneracy, hatred of humanity, suicide, depression, misery, and mental illness
jesse, ive rewatched your house series a few times now. i am always thankful for the nuance and sensitivity you display in this video specifically. ive seen a lot of comments misinterpreting your points about the framing and differences between bias of character and bias of writer. but i think this an excellent analysis, handled respectfully, and asks important questions about how cultural understandings change across time. you are an excellent video maker. thank you :)
Looks like part 4 will be a good one. The main issue I remember having with the show was the final episode, everyone in Houses life appeared before him... Besides Lisa. Someone extremely integral to House as a person and she didn't show up because they wouldn't pay the Actress enough. Really ruined the impact for me.
@A Lion Glad others had the same issue; watched the show ages ago but probably only ever spoke to one person about it. Yeah even if it was just a one-liner cameo I would have been happy.
@@Gabrilos505 Yeah, Lisa (Lisa in the show and in real life). From what I can remember they weren't willing to pay her as much as she thought she deserved. Seems that (I think) the show was the most popular tv show at one point I assume she was right.
I’m literally going down memory lane, I used to wait for episodes every week. Your commentary is amazing! Thank you for making these videos, man, makes me really happy
I'm gonna leave a longer comment on a later video probably, but even though I felt like you missed the mark a bit on the interpretation of how House regarded the 15 year old model and her father, I appreciated the connection to the writers and what they've been accused of in real life (Bryan Singer obv). And I appreciated how you adressed the various phobias and isms and where they worked character wise to point out absurdity vs when it was done in poor taste and bad faith. I'm often shocked when I go back and watch these things because I'm appalled at what I used to think was funny or acceptable vs what I feel now as an adult who's experienced and seen a lot more. I know the times have changed too, but it's kind of bewildering looking back at myself at the same time.
This episode was filled with so many twists and turns. I cackled at both 14:41 and 21:24. Really, really loving this deep dive even though I haven't seen an episode of House ever (I'm too squeamish with medical procedures).
@@Aster_Risk how is it interesting? There is nothing there to explore because it's so cut and dry. I don't usually think of the question on whether I should publicly urinate in order to put out a fire in a care home, but like the original question, there is absolutely nothing to it because the positives of the act hugely outweigh the negatives to the degree that it's almost superfluous to ask
6:27 Lisa's remarks about the show being "un-PC" is, indeed, one of the BIG reasons that the show was popular. It's something writers have forgotten or are scared to do. Scared they'll be an -ist or -ism or -phobe. Scared to be creative, to be bold. It's why we have such milktoast trash these days. It's why we have far too many shows preaching at us instead of entertaining us. It's a big reason why I watch content creators on UA-cam instead of anything that's on Netflix or cable TV.
3:20 this is probably the only major point in this part that I’ll contend with: I really think blues and rock music is where House’s score shines; the cringey folk/indie music that gets sprinkled into emotional/dramatic scenes post-S1 almost ALWAYS subtract from impact those scenes would otherwise have, even if otherwise silent
Okay, I guess there is also 16:25, but I suppose that is to be expected for people who moronically care about “misgendering-“ not to call you a moron, just that the critique there is misplaced. But the Brian Singer involvement and uncharacteristic weirdness of House’s writing seems too close too coincidence to be overlooked imo.
"Would you let someone die to avoid being offensive?" In ten years' time, this sentence will appear to have aged just as terribly as you seem to think House's lower hanging gags have. And in twenty, it may well be the opposite. I appreciate the thoroughness of the review, don't get me wrong.
Yeah... In 5 years, this show will be seen as a psycho thriller about an "OFFENSIVE DOCTOR" ruining people's lives, and making their lives longer, so they can suffer more...
NICE! I just got done watching the first two and i wanted to thank you for diving into a series that also feels like home to me. When the quarantine hit it was the first show i binged and afterward i went online looking for a video analysis about this brilliant show but to my surprise there was not. Thankfully yours is as brilliant as the show.
I can't wait for part 5 about "Love". I really hope you discuss the relationship/similarities between House's addiction to drugs and his feelings for Cuddy, because I haven't seen anyone else on the internet dive into that. Looking forward to it!
The difference is the supermodel had so much of her identity wrapped up in being a hot girl. finding out that any bit of that is not true would believably shatter her self-image and most likely irreparably damage the, admittedly toxic, relationship with her father. I can see someone having an outburst under those circumstances.
I was just going to post this. She had been held as a female ideal of beauty for 4 or 5 years, used it to her benefit/based her ID on it and that was shattered in an instant. On top of that, the specific cause was on something "inherently male": the testicle.
The kid talking questioning "I'm a freak" was going through the transition of puberty which is hard enough as-is. The medical diagnosis of having both X and Y chromosomes would have only added to that confusion.
there actually is a real life successful model named hanne gaby odiele who is the same form of intersex as the character, although unlike the character she was a victim of uninformed medical intervention as a child. she found out she was intersex right after becoming a model, around the time that episode aired, but didn't publicly come out as intersex until a few years ago. a lot of intersex people keep it a secret. for many their intersex status is kept a secret from them until teen years, adulthood, or even their entire lives. in some cases even their families aren't aware while doctors treat them like test subjects. it's really upsetting.
@@niraea I gave a thumbs up because the info was interesting. Its a horrible idea that doctors wouldn't be upfront about it
@AcousticProton
Exactly what I was thinking. Also, I remember in the episode the girl said she got her father drunk in order to get him to have sex with her so he’d do whatever she wanted him to. While this in NO WAY excuses the father, it shows how much worth she places on her beauty and as her being a female. Not only was the being a biological girl shattered, so was that manipulation of her father she’s worked hard to get.
@@tiedyedowl8367 This is a textbook example of downplaying the rape of men. Women can't consent while drunk, but men can?
I feel like the message about sexualising the 15 year old was not about the age of consent but more about her being a model and the industry sexualisng her and other young girls, contrasting that when its done face to face its obviously creepy and abhorant.
I could be reading into this too much or not enough, though
it is a good way to see, but it could be House not faking some creepiness, he is human and flawed after all, idk really
This is what I came here to write!! He straight away points out she doesn’t look 15. Then later he points out the hypocrisy in that you can look in a magazine and see a sexualised photo of a girl without any information (I.e. age) and sexualise her. Yet he is now considered gross because he now knows her age, instead of her being photographed and presented appropriately for her age
No your point is pretty obvious considering the context of the episode and House's established character. The author of this video is just ignoring things that don't fit his narrative about what the show is trying to say.
This was exactly the point. House is saying these things in a "matter of fact" way because that's how the industry wants him to think of her. Yet he says it out loud to demonstrate to the team just how uncomfortable that ideology actually is and how toxic the industry is.
I swear to god in this episode, she chooses (it might be because of the abuse) to sleep with her father even, having internalized that she can get everything with her attractiveness.
I always thought the "overreaction" in Skin Deep was supposed to be a reflection of the patient's self-image issues, caused by the fashion industry.
It's pretty traumatic to learn that your entire identity (in this case, the patient's femininity and looks) is based on a biologial fluke. A "your whole life is a lie" moment isn't the same as a confused kid who doesn't "fit in". A problem can't be dealt with so simply when you've built your entire self-image around it.
Yeaaah. Plus the whole thing with her dad, and him pretty obviously only showing her so much attention because of her femininity, not to mention the sexual shit... Yeaahh.
yeah I think he missed the mark on this, gender is not a construct, you are a boy or a girl
That would be deeply shocking revelation to anyone of pretty much any age. To discover that one of the fundamental truths and defining characteristics of yourself personhood is not what you thought it was… 🤯🤯🤯
It would change your perception of yourself in the world, in your relationships, your future. And your past.
Add in being a hormonal teenager prone to big emotional reactions, and being told you have cancer which might just scare you shitless, I’d say they had a pretty understandable response.
She didn’t vandalise the hospital, she pointed to evidence that she though would prove her point. She was scared and desperate.
Also she's had some pretty traumatic events during her development like you know, sexual abuse.
But then we should ask: What truly changed?
The patient just learned that she cannot have children and that's it. What further difference does it make? Where is the lie?
I feel like instead of rubbing it in the patient by making the homo joke, House should have asked her these questions and tell her to leave the toxic modelling industry behind. We can theorize a lot about intent, but the right actions don't follow, all we can do is judge the bad actions.
9:58 however unlikable the chess-playing kid in "the Jerk" may have been, the actor did a flawless job with his delivery... he would've been a good returning character to contrast with House
holy shit it's him
2023 points at Nick Fuentes taking notes from that kid
Something that bothered me about that episode is that House plays chess with him and it appears that House decides his position is lost though he doesn't resign. He returns much later (maybe the next day) and has figured out how he can win the game from that position and the Jerk says he is correct. But you don't get to play that way. House didn't win.
An hour or two after Deep Blue beat Kasparov in the last game of their match GM's studying the position discovered that Deep Blue played inaccurately and gave Kasparov a way to force a draw and save the game. Kasparov didn't find it and resigned. That doesn't mean that those GM's were better players than Deep Blue or Kasparov. I don't get the point of House saving the game.
@@williamgarner6779 That's more of a House personal quirk, he can't stand to not know things and he had to find out if he could have won.
Thirteen sleeping with women wasn't what was "self destructive". Her going partying every night, taking illegal drugs and hooking up with strangers because she figured she's dying anyway so who cares is what was treated as self destructive. The point was that she got a bad diagnosis and she stopped caring about her life at that point.
Don"t say that to him. It will shatter his world of virtue signaling
@@filipgasic2642 Just an fyi, if you use "virtue signaling" you are basically telling everyone you're a far right idiot.
@@filipgasic2642 also he completely (deliberately?) misses the point about the baby ua-cam.com/video/ZpXUNhPjfLo/v-deo.html in a story , the ones with tragedy are usually the ones that receive sympathy. Seeing homophobia everywheredoesnt help…
Yea I thought it was the drugs and partying that were causing concern for the team. Not that she was dating a woman. lmao
Yeah kinda weird that he conflates homosexuality with degenerate lifestyles. Really makes you think
I think you missed a lot of what you were supposed to read between the lines when you were dogging on House about his age of consent crack. House wasn't giving his explanations as an excuse for why *he* was "lusting" after her (because he wasn't). He was pointing out, in his typical acerbic way, that while Cameron has no problem showing disgust about the suggestion of *personal* attraction she had absolutely no problem with *society as a whole* doing exactly the same thing. It wasn't him trying to justify being a pervert; it was him pointing out the hypocrisy that "one man lusting after a 15 year old" is somehow more awful to her and more worthy of comment to her than "thousands of men lusting after a 15 year old" -- that if Cameron wanted to shower her indignation somewhere, he's not the party she should be most upset with.
Similarly, his comments about her "rounded hips" and "bountiful breasts" weren't just him being licentious. He was referring to the physical signs that she's gone through puberty (with his usual lack of tact), and thus a lack of physical maturation isn't an acceptable reason for why she hasn't had a period; and he delivers the lines with his sarcastic tone that indicates they're not *his* feelings.
That's not the say it's not Bryan Singer injecting his own kink into the content for whatever strange reasons he has; but it's not written nor does it come across as House being a would-be pedophile.
And also those are Important markers for Female maturity as if those are not expressed especially the Mens part than the patient has a condition.
But being a film guy he kind of missed that.
Additionally in the context of the episode the comment about her "rounded hips" and "bountiful breasts" were House directly quoting what her FATHER had written about her/marketed her as. More social commentary, NOT him creeping on her. Don't know why he ignored that.
@@GippyHappy He missed that one completely. Which is surprising, for how many other things he got right. He got both the irony and the context in House's voice for all the racist comments, all of sexist comments, but this one he missed? And he said he watched it more than 20 times.
And it's not like it was hidden between the lines or something, House implicitly states that he quoted her/his father's words. I watched it maybe 10 times, but I did not need to repeat it even once to get this, or any other context of the show. Bummer. We'll se if he missed something else in other videos. To get something like this wrong in such a huge project is surprising, at least.
@@milivoee I’ve only seen that episode once and I remembered the context so yeah idk what’s up with that
@@GippyHappy I don't know. Same with the "bring your own transvestite to the double date" thing. It was not that he had any problems with her, I mean, he brought her as his date, in public. It was just that he hated the very concept of having to even deal with Wilson's wife, so he wanted to make it as awkward as possible to everyone so they give up on a possibility of being together and having to deal with House's mining of their every attempt at normal relationship. To impose insensitivity on someone who has the most liberal views of any character in TV shows history, I just do not know where it came from.
Alexs entire identity was based on her being a beautiful woman. That gets ripped away. Her reaction seems completely plausible to me.
WHAT? Don't you understand it's transphobic, sexist, ageist, racist, ableist and xenophobic? You’re a baby. Bye lol.
@@92brunod tf please tell me you're joking
@@SaraThunn Come on people, I get that there are real people like this but how could this possibly be xenophobic? Hahaha
@@92brunod it doesn’t surprise me anymore tbh. People ARE like that now. They’d say they’re 1-200th Asian so it is xenophobic. Very sad, delusional, disconnected from reality, and sensitive.
@@nate87799 "disillusioned" is the exact wrong word you mean to use, btw. Disillusioned means to discover and know the real truth. Imagine they were previously "illusioned" (believed something incorrect) / had the wool pulled over their eyes, but then you disillusion them by taking the wool off and letting them see the truth.
In skin deep when he describes her body he's quoting lines in a magazine written by her father. He makes fun of her sexuality to turn him off from sleeping with his child again and to turn others off as well as herself since she's being used because of her hyper feminity. U did bring up some good points though.
But misrepresenting the scene (unintentionally) isn't very good
For years I've been waiting for channels like Screenprism, Wisecrack, Nerdwriter1, etc. to cover House M.D. but didn't really think I'd ever actually get an in depth, masterful analysis of the series because even shows like The Sopranos or The Wire don't really get much attention these days. This channel has made that long, long anticipation worthwhile.
Yeah, all great analisys channels. It takes passion to analyse something to this level of depth, and most people don't have the deep love for House that Jesse shows, while these more "artistic" shows such as Sopranos attract that analytical look, House as a procedural series might be considered just average by many.
I think part of what's great, and even necessary, about analysises...analysi...?...overviews about shows like this with a lot of history and nuance is because for a lot of people who didn't catch them when they where the zeitgeist it can feel really overwhelming or useless to go back and try and watch them, especially years removed from the context in which they where made.
With these...overviews, you can appreciate the series and learn about it, how it worked, how it was structured, how it evolved, without needing a time machine or sinking dozens of hours(and possibly dollars) into watching it yourself and still walk away informed enough to have discussions about it. And hey, if you really like what you see, you can hop on and consume it as well!
Yes, an in depth analysis of sopranos would be wonderful
The freakout in the supermodel episode was not about gender itself, it was about the girl identifying (and being perceived, treated as) a symbol of mainstream beauty, crucial part of which is that she thought she was a woman.
That is why she strips her clothes and explaims "I am beautiful".
The episode and the speech is not about gender identity, it is about the absurd ideas of beauty. That is also the reason House keeps dropping the jokes which make everyone uncomfortable despite the fact the 15 year old is an overly sexualized swimsuit model.
"...crucial part of which is that she thought she was a woman."
"The episode and the speech is not about gender identity..."
Uh-huh. So a crucial reason behind her actions is that she identifies as a woman, but those actions are not about the fact that she identifies as a woman. I see. This makes everything very clear.
>she
Yeah, I don’t think so. I think this is about the fact that this ep is written by a man and has some really gross objectifying and wish fulfillment going on.
For one thing, runway models do not typically have “bountiful breasts.” That’s a man’s idea of a model.
I always interpreted the lewd comments House makes in the episode with the 15 year old super model as him over emphasizing the morality of underage girls being or aspiring to be supermodels when it's an industry that's typically over sexualized.
16:59 Wouldn't that be because your entire identity up to that point, directly related to your career, largely attached to how you see yourself and are seen by others, especially as a young and beautiful woman, who has a greater deal of societal worth at that point than most others groups of people, would not be as jeopardized by that revelation in modern day, as opposed to the early 2000s? Especially if you find out about it on top of having cancer and nearly dying in a hospital already?
She is also 15 and a victim of sexual abuse at a young age. Being 15 and receiving a cancer diagnosis in the rudest way imaginable makes it very likely she would respond irrationally and emotionally, and sexual abuse can cause the victims to act inappropriately sexual, especially combined with the general sexualisation and commodifacition of her body.
All in all, I don't think her response was that unrealistic.
And especially in that time being outed as such would ruin the models career.
NO NO NO NO NO, the show is sexist and transphobic. End of discussion. Don't you dare actually use the entire and accurate context for the scenes!
Nice essay. I love houses early seasons because as you mention they get more time to breath. More realistic human dialogue that felt super grounded and like the writers really cared a lot.
It's possible that House could identify with "freaks" and still utilize one to further his own ends. Not unlike him using racial slurs to meet his ends. He doesn't use them in casual conversation, but he will use them to elicit a desired reaction.
He may have thought Sarah and Wilson would have been uncomfortable with his date choice w/o actually agreeing with the reason for their discomfort.
In fact considering his propensity for smugness & general superiority complex, then him being ok with his date but others being less accepting would fit his character perfectly.
Even if that was the case, he would still be relying on them to act uncomfortable in front of his trans date at the expense of his trans date. It would still be at the expense of a living, breathing, feeling person. Even if he "got what he wanted" he would walk away smug while a trans woman would walk away feeling humiliated or worse.
@@marians1436 And? Since when does House care about making a living, breathing, feeling person feel humiliated? Have you even watched the show?
@@marians1436 Ah yes! The great Dr. House, kind and empathetic. Who always cared about the feelings of others, became a doctor because he wanted to become the new Patch Adams. Or wouldn't this be the doctor who said, and I quote, "Did you come for my feelings? Because I left 'em in my other pants."
But it seems to me that you think transsexuals are much more fragile than they really are. Come on, all that testosterone in their vein has got to have some effect other than a girly beard!
Agree and eas thinking the exact same the moment everything was being said. This has started going way south on some political correctness rants and reaches. Gonna stop watching this.
There is nothing wrong with her reaction in my opinion. Because it's about herself, and how she sees herself. Especially back then. Even today, you have people who are proud of who they are. They will care if they have lived a lie their entire life. Could you imagine the shock? finding out something like that? If word gets out, her career is compromised because of the people who won't accept her for being different.
And the fact that she doesn't care about showing her body shows her confidence and pride in what she does. She's not afraid to be objectified.
lol that line 'my fans were born in the 90s' hit me like a ton of bricks
no no no no... he's not taking a shot at the age of consent; he's taking a shot at the hypocrisy of the culture which props up female adolescence as the sexual ideal. he knows that expressing an attraction to her is repugnant, but what does that moral outrage really mean when adult sexual attraction is the explicit goal of the industry and the culture that supports and emulates it? i thought it was brilliantly cringe in that the discomfort we're supposed to feel about it IS the message. the faux-outrage of her father reflects the contradiction in ourselves when we perform morals that don't reflect our inner experience, like men quietly wanting to be with her and women quietly wanting to be like her. i get your critique and i'm digging most of your analysis on all these installments, but i don't think you're giving the episode enough credit. the handling of sexual identity in that episode was abysmal tho.
Yeah I agree, his sexualization of her was intentionally over the top; he was just doing what media and society told him he's supposed to do; drool over her, sexualize her, want her. He says it pretty explicitely but what's different in this episode is he isn't targeting his criticism at any one character but at everyone because they're all a part of it.
I also don't think "Calling you a homo" is out of place; he was mocking the father's misplaced priorities and subtly pointing out that he STILL FUCKED HIS CHILD
Now, with the underage girl who comes onto House, I think he was playing up the sexual stuff to cover up for his own insecurity since he isn't actually used to being aggressively pursued by women.
@@mitchellhorton9382 agreed.
I'm not sure how intentional this reading is, but it's the one I chose to read with
I think if that was the intent... And I believe that to a certain extent it was... They should have made more of an effort to show that. It just comes off as him being actually creepy.
@@autonomousAcquaintances I dunno I've always read it that way so it's hard for me to say they should have made it more obvious lol
That phrase you kept re-editing in was actually said by the model's father in the magazine. House was during the entirety of the episode trying to go on the hunch that the father slept with his child. To feed into this notion, he was consistently making the point that the father monetizes his underage child's sexuality as a manager and there is reasonable doubt that he would exploit the child outright sexually as well. For someone who watched the series more than 20 times as you claim, that is a huge oversight - since you made this whole video pretty much on that same phrase. To repeat, the phrase did not belong to House, he did not say it. He kept quoting the model's father from the magazine to prove a point towards a hunch. Perhaps time to re-watch skin deep for you :)
@@kcirdor99 me too. Especially the contrast beween how Houses racism was sarcastic, but his sexualising wasnt.
His utterances of “now It’s creepy” are very clearly opinions he attributes to the father. So no, hes not homophobic. Is this creator deliberately misreading ?
It's interpreted in the way it is because of a current fad in gender politics. The modern take on gender identity was completely non-existent and unimaginable when the episode was made. My guess is this video analysis will age more poorly than that episode.
@@darkwingscooter9637 Agreed. It's not even a question of whether the current opinions and attitudes are valid/accurate, its the fact the people who believe them let the issues cloud their judgement and analysis. The first 2 parts in this series demonstrate the creator is very capable of breaking down roles, lines, meanings etc but when it comes to this specific topic he allows his opinions on the topic to create a blindspot and miss simple things.
I completely agree
I discovered Bon Iver’s song Re:Stacks because of the season 4 finale. On top of all the incredible storytelling and character, I’m thankful this show introduced that song to me. It’s a beautiful song
Same! It literally became MY song for months after I saw it on the show, and I still love it now. There are a bunch of other songs I first heard on the show that I like, and I often find that the feelings I attach to the song are related to the feelings the songs were used to convey in the episode. At times the song choice is really perfect for a scene, and encapsulating the emotions of the characters, and the words they are thinking but don't say.
The house soundtrack was so, so good! A solid half of my favorite musical artists, I found because they were featured on House and Bones. "My" house song is "Maggot brain" by Funkadelic, it plays when a drug deal is going down with the undercover agent who orchestrated it dying from his disease, sixth season I think. The song itself is so emotional, and it's used perfectly, as is RE: Stacks.
Art by Alex Yo Funkadelic is sweet!! I guess I havent seen that episode you mentioned since I got into them. Welp, time for a rewatch I guess lol.
"A joke would be me calling you a Homo" cracks me up every time i hear it. the delivery is 10/10 hah
Love these ones, reminded me why I love the show in the first place.
As a european and not an american, the slurs was part of the best stuff!
*How many perfect House quotes for every given moment do you have? *Jesse Tribble: YES
Jesse, I’m curious what you think about this regarding the two intersex characters and when they realized they’re genetically different from the way they were raised.
Alex being thrown into the toxic supermodel world definitely didn’t help her with her reaction to finding out she’s actually a male. Her reaction to strip also probably comes from having had sex with her father. She was far more damaged than Jackson from The Softer Side. Jackson had two loving parents who also knew about his condition and tried to shield him from finding out, but the way they raised him helped shape his personality to be a kinder, gentler soul. Although I think Jackson is younger than Alex, mentally Jackson was more mature because of the differences in their lives. Jackson went to school like an average kid while Alex was out supermodeling and being exposed to that “adult” life. So is Alex’s reaction of taking off her clothes yelling “I’m a girl” really that unexpected, especially since she had sex with her dad.
Agree!!
Even if you can rationalize Alex's reaction, I thought House's doesn't make sense for the character, and we are left with some shitty homophobia/transphobia/sexual fundamentalism.
When I saw that episode, I thought Alex was a woman through and through since birth, everyone's reaction were kind of stupid and gross, no matter what her reaction would be they tried not to see her as a woman no more, and her reaction feels as though the writers tried to justify not liking her.
@@vanillaannihilation5871 I don't know if I agree with the take "the writers were portraying Alex as unlikable". I always viewed Alex's character as being a *tragic* one, through and through.
I think you didn't catch the part where House outright says that Alex yelling she's a girl in desperation is part of the disease. The tumor in the never-grown testicle makes her body secrete extreme levels of testosterone, leading to sudden bouts of aggression and rage (like when she attacks another model for no reason). It's the same thing happening again, the shock of just being told her entire identity is a lie causes her to have another bout of aggression and rage that leads to her stripping while proclaiming she's a girl. At which point House outright says that's "the tumor talking", and that once they cut it, she'll be fine.
Um, she's not a male. She's intersex. There are five characteristics of biological sex and only two of them for her end up being masculine (gonads and chromosomes). Hormones, primary sex characteristics, and secondary sex characteristics are all very feminine for her
You lost me more than a couple times during the video but it was still good. Excited for the next one.
finally, literally dropping everything I'm doing to watch this
As a minor note, with House's age of consent comment in "Skin Deep" I perceived that more as a jab at the modeling industry than the age of consent. the idea that someone can be sexualized that much before being the age of consent being somewhat ludicrous, you know
Another point about lighting, I love the change in lighting in the super depressing episodes, it makes you so tense as you know bad things are ahead. The shots are immediately more dark, sunlight is rarely shown, and everything seems to be more defined. The episode regarding Cuddys mother’s illness is a great example, if my memory serves correctly.
So glad somebody mentioned that episode, the way it starts, extremely vibrant with bright colours, and how it gets darker and more and more muted towards the end is unsettling as hell, one of the best examples for outstanding cinematography in the entire show
Kutner's death and discovery of his body by Foreman and Thirteen is the one that I go to when discussing lighting.
The case I didn't care about or for. I didn't see how a woman dying while her husband lived made much sense to the theme of his suicide?, it just confused me but the Kutner storyline was gripping, depressing and I loved every second of it, including the music.
I cannot express how eagerly I am awaiting the next part. Great work!
TimTom watches house confirmed
Ooh I did not expect this comment
Wow timtom why sre you here?
you compared two completely different situations:
1-A teenage model in the peak of her popularity, being shared everywhere on magasins and such, her self image is practically her whole identity and it's pretty hard to blame her either for all the explotation she had to go through, plus probably no one she ever meets in her life goes through the first obvious layer, which is her beauty, compliments, being hit on, stares at awe, all of that, consitutes a day in her life, and she never seemed "unhappy" in her life.
2-a child that already feels like he's a girl, but knows he's a boy, in a much calmer environment (which is easily seen at the difference of the room they are in, no dr house, only the two parents who are worried, not disgusted)
the model got stripped (no pun intended) of her life, she had fame, fortune and beauty, what most 15 year olds want anyway!
so i think it's wrong to think that these two are any similar.
second point is house being too "weird"
quoting mostly of what the parent said in the interviews does not make him weird, but taking it out of context kind of is.
Just FYI, "horses, not zebras" is actually used in med school.
Didn't the show at one point had the tentative name "chasing zebras"?
@@cosipurple occam's razor is the term which means the simplest explanation is the likeliest one (or something). It also uses the phrase "when you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras"
@@deborasolum5324 and due to the nature of the show (unlikely diseases) chasing zebras always stroke me as a great reference.
Btw I took the chance to Google and according to Wikipedia chasing zebras was the working title of the show, I think it would have been clever, but I have to agree that simply House is a much better show title.
Yup as someone with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, the mascot is a zebra for this exact reason.
(Although in the case of connective tissues conditions I think they are way more common than medics realize. So I guess it's more like having the same phrase/attatude but in a zoo.)
@@NotAnotherKuromi Hi Sammy, I have Stickler Syndrome, a connective tissue disorder similar to EDS. :)
At 21:12, House is intrigued by his “stalker” but he tries to fend her off (she keeps coming back ofc). He was flattered bc she was so young but he even flat out told her she was too young.
You make the point that the writer is having house show up with a Transgender person for shock value, but then also say that Wilson and Sam carry on normally. A bit of a contradiction to say that the writers are pushing some kind of agenda, but then also have them write the scene at dinner where it's completely normal besides House being annoyed. That would mean that the agenda they are pushing is even when the most important or main person (or House, in this instance) is transphobic etc, it doesn't mean that everyone else has to be.
That's what I felt like the writers wanted to portray. I understand misinterpreting the super model episode, but that dinner scene felt pretty straightforward to me.
@@Aster_Risk Nothing is straightforward if the straightforward meaning clashes with the narrative you want to push. You HAVE to bend over backwards to make it fit into your narrative as hard as you can.
It's not an accusation of anything, the show was transphobic and that was pointed out. No need to get all defensive
@TheArthkm they're not defensive at all, just stating how it's not transphobic and how Jesse misinterpreted the dinner scene just as you have
The hermaphrodite episode isn’t about ogling a 15 year old it’s about house ridiculing beauty standards. Don’t forget it’s not just any 15 year old, it’s a 15 year old *model* that looks 27 on purpose. In the storyline nobody not even her FATHER cares that she is 15 or that she is his DAUGHTER. I think specifically the episode points out how beautiful people can get dehumanised and objectified very easily
How someone can interpret an episode called “skin deep” so wrong baffles me. The episode isn’t about gender, gender plays a relatively small part in it only to throw in a curveball at the end
*he
When House was describing the supermodel's body, from what I remember, he immediately goes on to say that he didn't come up with that description and that it was actually written by her father acting as her publicist. So his actual point was that her father is really, really suspicious since that's all super creepy when placed in that context. This essay is quoting House out of context, saying he's got nothing going on but lust when that wasn't the case. The lust is definitely there and part of what he's saying but not all of it.
You went on a massive tangent for this one, and a majority of it was just bad takes back to back.
It's the SJW in him coming out.
Agreed.
Yeah I legit feel like he TOTALLY missed the point of Skin Deep and even misrepresented a lot of what happened. Like how does he not get that it was a commentary on the modeling industry, and it had nothing to do with being trans or really gender at all, it was a cool twist showing the hypocrisy in "oh it was fine to have sex with your daughter, but your SON? That's too far".
he has consistent bad takes. i watched his daredevil v mr robot video which was like a hundred times worse lol
@@johanliebert6000 I'm gonna have to watch it now lol
Id write a long paragraph about why I disagree in a couple parts of this video but it seems people beat me to it. Your bias is showing bad
I am glad I read comments from viewers before getting more into this video. Now I can watch and be prepared for your work crap.
Like most of the commenters I don't understand your points about the 15 year old. It may have been a video editing issue since it came right after a section where you talked about how House says all sorts of things he doesn't actually mean to get reactions or results. Suddenly, in this particular episode, he's just being honest with everyone all the time? It feels like you had a 'reaction' to the episode the first time you watched it and saw what you either wanted or expected to see. Committing that to video is fairly brave but I wholeheartedly disagree with almost all of it.
To some of the initiated, gay and transgender issues are so holy as not to be touched except in the most doting ways possible. Seems like this critic is one of those initiated.
@@mikewilliams6025 hate to see it. Makes me realize this is as good as it gets, the other parts before and hopefully after this. Oh well, a lot of potential lost to the dark gods again
@@mikewilliams6025 According people basic dignity isn't "doting." The episode paints her as monstrous, a freak, pathologizes intersex identity.
yes he says House is lusting the girl the whole time by saying comments about her hips and breasts when in reality House is quoting something DIRECTLY from her father. he literally says so when he confronts the father. now way someone who knows this much about the show and has watched the show 20 times "at least" would miss this. he intentionally left it out to push his own narrative
The thing about editing is that you don't accidentally edit something in this way. During editing he has every opportunity to correct himself and fix things and yet never does. Then he publishes the video that way. His writing in these videos has been consistent and good up until this topic and that's when you can see his emotion take over his rational mind. He made a conscious, and petty decision with this video.
I'm glad that the comments are calling you out, and I hope that you take it on board.
That post you made about copyright issues with this series really got me. But when I heard Teardrop and No Surprises in the first episode, let alone the obvious abundance of clips from a network TV show, I can't say it was surprising. Props to you for sticking with the series in spite of UA-cam's awful policies.
YO! What's up Daddy Claw
WTF why are you here?
Don't you have a kink to shame, or an impoverished cooking channel to besmirch?
Much like house and his homophobic comments, I still watch you... But wow do I like you less every time.
@@5crewyouy0uT00B Yeah, I'm surprised he's leaving a nice comment.
It's called integrity. I'm aware that might be a foreign concept to you
I find you everywhere lately, Mr. Flang
I hate to tell you this, but the music you hear in the episodes on DVD were _NOT_ the songs used when the show was originally broadcast. Broadcast used licensed music from real artists. The DVDs used generic or "library" music that has no copyright. This is done because the studios don't want to keep paying royalties on the songs used in broadcast for each purchase of a DVD set. House is _NOT_ the only show that does this.
Some streaming services will have the licensed music instead of the library music.
Video 1 and 2... great breakdowns and in depth reviews of episodes and characters.
Video 3... a 20 minute diatribe about how a tv show hurts modern peoples feelings and says mean words about gay people.
I’m gay and I always laugh at the line: “No, a joke would be calling you a homo.” It’s hilarious to see how House labels him differently even though his actions and desires are totally antithetical to that identity.
@@CharlieQuartz I love that line, and it's actually an example of amazing writing, where House both insults him for sleeping with his child, and insults him for assuming his doctor is lying to him
This entire series has come at a great time in my life as I'm experiencing a lot of difficulties and it is helping me to feel a lot better and get in touch with the side of me that has been so attached to this show for some reason. Thank you, dearly.
It's wild to me that I only watched this all once, years and years ago, but as soon as you break into a scene it happens to be an episode I actually remember. Guess that means those were the ones that were meant to stick with me
The colours look weird in the Pilot because it was filmed in black and white then converted to colour afterwards. Bloody stupid if you ask me.
It was done to save money, which was the only way they could make it in the first place and then last 8 years. Ironically, you're both bloody stupid and in black and white (pops a vicodin)
You forgot to mention when he was describing the model he was reading an article written by the father.
The comment section has restored my faith in humanity. Thank you guys!
I’ve been watching the first two parts everyday for the past week. I almost jumped for joy when I saw this video’s title. One of the best made UA-cam series I’ve ever seen
25:02 Implying writers are anti nuclear family is preposterous, the nuclear family is constantly attacked with most Dads being absent and dead beat.
It only appears that way because they hate nuclear families that much more 15 years later. By comparison, the mid 2000s seem like a bastion of traditional values, despite that clearly not being the case, either on television or in real life.
I feel like you are projecting how stupid you think the audience is onto the writers of the show - the point of bringing the trans woman to dinner was to reinforce to the audience how immature House actually is. The viewers of the show knew that it was a ridiculous thing to do and were never going to fall for the "OMG he brought a trans prostitute to dinner - I need to clutch my purse!" crap. I think the show assumes the audience has a decent amount of intelligence and can recognise when House is being childish. That's kinda the point of the entire show isn't it??
The writers write often in a way that doesn't take his side. It's one of the most interesting aspects of the show - he's not necessarily the good guy, and in many situations he's the opposite.
But you're only reinforcing his point, we can only know that it' childish and/or a ridiculous thing to do if there is and underlying assumption that bringing a trans woman is more ridiculous/childish than bringing a regular woman. This is reinforced later when Wilson tells Cuddy: "second time he brought a transvestite hooker to dinner". The inappropriateness that is being implied here doesn't come from the fact that she's a hooker, which is totally normal for house. Now sure Trans could've been swapped out for slutty or old or gross but in order for that whole plot to work house has to bring someone that is supposedly disruptive because there is something wrong with them that can be designed for comedic setup reversal. So while the show may not be saying "clutch your purse" it is saying that bringing a Trans woman to dinner is supposed to be disruptive.
@@jordanschoenenberger4397 he wasnt reinforcing Jesse's point. What he meant is that just bc House thinks bringing a transsexual hooker to a dinner is more offensive than bringing a normal one doesnt mean the writers or the characters around House or even House himself think the same. It can merely be a point they made about House's childishness, and in fact, House's childishness is further exacerbated if we assume the writers and the characters didnt think bringing a transsexual hooker is somehow worse. House himself doesnt even have to believe transsexuality is offensive to pull this prank. He could merely be playing on common societal stereotypes, as he often does.
And I believe this was the case here, because the characters around House arent annoyed by the Hooker or the Hooker being transsexual. They dont act disgusted or anything. They are annoyed by House's childishness - his immature attempt to provoke others in such a ridiculous way.
Jesse's argument would hold only if the others actually took offense at the Hooker's transsexuality. Again, this is not the case. Never once is she treated condescendingly. The characters only take offense at House's immaturity and provoking behavior. And this is what Jesse missed.
@@MarzipanCat. But the only thing that makes that action childish is that it's a transexual, bringing a hooker in itself would not be very childish. This presumption leads into the comedic reversal of House not getting the reaction he wanted, and I don't blame House, I blame the writer. So if your entire argument is about childishness, then you must acknowledge that what makes the action childish is bringing a trans woman.
@@jordanschoenenberger4397 its not only House's behavior that counts but also the characters' reaction to it (which are of course also determined by the writers). House trying to aggravate people by bringing a transsexual hooker and then the other characters being offended not by the hooker but by House's childish attempt to piss them off with a transsexual hooker is a whole other message. I know this is a bit complicated and I have a hard time finding the right words. Basically, what I think happened is this: All the characters, Wilson, House, and Cuddy know that a transsexual person is nothing special, nothing to be offended by. However, House in his childish mind tries to annoy his friend by playing on widespread societal stereotypes that say transsexual hookers are disgusting (while personally not agreeing with them. He just had to hope it works on his friend). And then Wilson and Cuddy are embarrassed by the length he goes to to annoy them, thinking "yeah dude im not embarrassed by the transsexual hooker, Im embarrassed by your attempt to aggravate me by trying to get me with outdated stereotypes". In other words, House's behavior shows that the society he lives in holds negative views against transsexuals, but he as well as his friends make it clear that they perceive these stereotypes as outdated. And that is why those scenes arent toxic.
I think a huge aspect of Houses "edginess" works so well because the most universal premise of his practice is the Virtuoso drive to engage in an issue from any angle, even (or especially) the obscene ones.
I am not saying it excuses or justifies the transgressions of the writing I just think it is the reason why it works so well with House as a character.
The "circle" rant/speech is still so important to me... I do think that character fluctuations have a lot to do with the medium - the different writers taking on every episode. So Doris Egans House is different from Shores' House, and that's how this medium works. I do wish House was written like the character who delivered the circle speech more often than someone who wanted to weird out his best friend by bringing a trans prostitute to dinner. Representation is a hard thing to implement and talk about, thank you for tackling it! I'm very glad you're analyzing it from both a doylist and a watsonian perspective, and using other academic lenses. This series is shaping up to be amazing, and I'm so glad you're doing it. I already predict that 6 hours will still leave me wanting more, and that this will have an immense rewatch value for me. Thank you!
Absolutely, the circle speach is a great way to have a character be brash and make those around him feel comfortable, but in a way that is constructive and demonstrates House's intelligence, rather than just being mean spirited. I have seen some shows with multiple writers where characters feel consistent throughout, but it's definitely difficult, especially in a serialized format that goes on for 8 seasons.
A few bad or odd takes in this video but I'm still enjoying this series of essays.
I agree that some episodes have a less sensitive tone when dealing with gender, sexuality, wokeness and such, than we might expect today from such a well made show. That being said, House' dinner companion was (like Wilson said on 27:46 btw) a transvestite, meaning a person dressed like the opposite gender. A biological man dressing like a woman isn't necessarily a trans woman. Plenty of cross dressers aren't transgender at all, they dress up as a drag thing, maybe as some kind of role play or fetish, or just for fun. Actually all these points have been popular in urban gay subcultures for many decades. To me the scene doesn't look like House "dating" a trans woman but a gay man in drag, who expects a "date" with some rich closeted sugar daddy, who prefers to pretend that his callboys are ladies or so. There's quite a bit of depth in that scene.
Maybe you're right but house calls his date "she" and says "you know how girls are" and things like that. And we don't get her perspective so I think you're making a bit of a leap on his date's perspective. But you're right they describe his date inconsistently.
@@xant8344 Well, drag queens and such often refer to themselves as female while "in character" while not always or even often being trans.
@@samueljackson3512 That's a good point too. But drag queens aren't the same as transvestites.
Yeah i think you give them too much credit
The jokes sound like the're from the mid 2000s because they ARE from the mid 2000s
There is no past, only the ever present reality dictated by the relativistic elite and the shifting standards of the tyrannically inclined.
@@Billsbob (inhales) brah..(cough) (cough)..that's like toootally deep brah...
@@Billsbob yeah, they didnt even find this funny 2000 years ago, let along in the mid 2000
@@sloper013 That is one of the most of the most absurdly untrue statements I've seen made in a long time.
@@Billsbob Translation: There's only a subjective now set up by people higher in the pyramid than the average joe, as well as their changing standards.
I can go for opulent vocabulary as well, chief.
You completely misunderstand Skin Deep for someone who allegedly watched the show >20 times, and come up with the most trendy and template modern critique on it
I don't think House's intentions in any of the "House's 'underage sex' comments" were intended to make a statement of any kind. House was just pulling everyone's leg on those conversations. His back and forth with Cameron feels like a critique of how the media sexualizes people regarless of their age, if anything.
P.s.: I ain't trying to be mean, but a former worker of that show ignoring you on Twitter doesn't mean anything.
EDIT: Maybe that's just my POV, but I also don't think that Thirteen's on and off relationships with other girls were meant to be seen as destructive *because* they were homosexual in nature. I always thought they were meant to be seen as destructive because they were *one night stands.*
Her relationship with Foreman was shown in a favorable light because it was a serious, steady relationship; by two main characters, to boot.
yeah, but she wasn't exactly having those one night stands with men too. I remember watching it when I was younger and thinking, "oh yeah woman can have relationships/sleep with other other woman, but those relationships aren't serious." Fast-forward to now, I'm just like I can't believe I thought that.
And I was around like 13 or 14 when I started watching house, it was already in it's 4th or 5th season
that painting guy to be fair, thirteen was a private person and we didn’t see much of any of her relationships in general. Also her having to think about her own mortality constantly, would lend to someone not maintaining long term relationships because, there’s not point in investing time into one person when you know your clock will run out.
I agree with the first part but as for 13 I remember there being a bit of buzz around her being overtly bi, then for her to not have long term relationships with women felt like a bit of a let down.
Also on its own it's not that bad, I agree, but it is part of a huge problem of not depicting positive same sex relationships, particuarly women, on both the small & large screen. Like the Hays code is gone, please take your foot off the floor & write happy monogamous lesbians, neither of whom die!
Media critic discovers that the writers might not believe what their characters say
Glad to scroll down and find everyone calling out these horrible takes. Gives me hope
The reaction of the gender reveal was in check with their personalities, i think, and her, exposing her body, its in accordance with how she see the role of his gender on herself.
13:45
Yeee-no.
Comedy is subjective, just because you do not find it funny it doesn't mean that other people don't.
regarding music in House, two pieces come to mind. One is "You can't always get what you want" from I believe s01e01 (and if I'm wrong, then somewhere else in season 1), which fits the episode (and the entire series) sooo so well.
The other is Radiohead's No Surprises playing over the detox in s06e01 (I may again be wrong with the episode). Holy shitte, that was something spectacular.
Consider checking out "Maggot Brain" and "Light for the Deadvine" too. Magnificent tracks from House.
youve gone two hours without mentioning the time chase kissed a kid
YES I WAS LITERALLY WAITING FOR THIS
I was figuratively waiting for this. (By the way awesome name)
Love this series
Same, I was in the middle of part 2 and saw that there is another one!! Got so excited
lmao how does the vaccination bit feel 2 years later
First two parts: a thought-provoking, mentally stimulating critical analysis exploring the core mechanisms as well as subtle yet crucial nuances of a specific television show and applying it to the artistic realm as a whole from a timeless perspective and speaking to human truths that very few people would even have the ability to configure, let alone elucidate
Third part: surface-level blither blather that a high school C student and half of modern society could conjure up on a whim that is completely antithetical to all of the knowledge about the human condition accumulated throughout the previous 99.9% of history--the remaining 0.1% being an era wrought with artificiality, denial of faith, degeneracy, hatred of humanity, suicide, depression, misery, and mental illness
This Brother in Christ is preachin’
jesse, ive rewatched your house series a few times now. i am always thankful for the nuance and sensitivity you display in this video specifically. ive seen a lot of comments misinterpreting your points about the framing and differences between bias of character and bias of writer. but i think this an excellent analysis, handled respectfully, and asks important questions about how cultural understandings change across time. you are an excellent video maker. thank you :)
And now I’m where I began. Can’t wait for the next episode.
Congrats on being able to post this! Thank you!!!
Looks like part 4 will be a good one. The main issue I remember having with the show was the final episode, everyone in Houses life appeared before him... Besides Lisa. Someone extremely integral to House as a person and she didn't show up because they wouldn't pay the Actress enough. Really ruined the impact for me.
@A Lion Glad others had the same issue; watched the show ages ago but probably only ever spoke to one person about it.
Yeah even if it was just a one-liner cameo I would have been happy.
Yeah I agree it was ridiculous without her.
Didn't the actress refuse to come back to the show even for the finale?
@@Gabrilos505 Yeah, Lisa (Lisa in the show and in real life). From what I can remember they weren't willing to pay her as much as she thought she deserved. Seems that (I think) the show was the most popular tv show at one point I assume she was right.
@@scalpingsnake That's a shame, she was great with House
20:50 "Surely the writers can learn from their mistakes."
What? How is making a character a nasty pervert a mistake?
Because he's the titular protagonist, and we root for him, despite his shortcomings . . . ? But some shortcomings are hardly forgivable.
I miss the over saturated super soft haze and bloom present in the first season. It visually does ground you in the era. Hyper nostalgic
"I'm going to nitpick a little more." I think we all expected that.
So excited for part 4! This series has been a awesome House deep dive
"House loves to be edgy which is cool, except for when he offends me personally." lmao ok dude
Spittin’
I’m literally going down memory lane, I used to wait for episodes every week. Your commentary is amazing! Thank you for making these videos, man, makes me really happy
Literally going down memory lane? I hope you're not typing and driving
I'm gonna leave a longer comment on a later video probably, but even though I felt like you missed the mark a bit on the interpretation of how House regarded the 15 year old model and her father, I appreciated the connection to the writers and what they've been accused of in real life (Bryan Singer obv). And I appreciated how you adressed the various phobias and isms and where they worked character wise to point out absurdity vs when it was done in poor taste and bad faith. I'm often shocked when I go back and watch these things because I'm appalled at what I used to think was funny or acceptable vs what I feel now as an adult who's experienced and seen a lot more. I know the times have changed too, but it's kind of bewildering looking back at myself at the same time.
Olivia Wilde - My first crush.
Odette Annabelle - My second crush.
Olivia Wilde is supernaturally attractive.
@@UltimateKyuubiFox Yes
This episode was filled with so many twists and turns. I cackled at both 14:41 and 21:24. Really, really loving this deep dive even though I haven't seen an episode of House ever (I'm too squeamish with medical procedures).
Aw, and you were doing it so well. Alas, not everyone is perfect. Hope your other parts are not as disappointing as this one.
The question of would you save a life if it meant being offensive is not interesting, it's a no-brainer.
Being a no-brainder doesn't make it uninteresting. Most people don't usually have a reason to think about that question, so it can be interesting.
@@Aster_Risk how is it interesting? There is nothing there to explore because it's so cut and dry. I don't usually think of the question on whether I should publicly urinate in order to put out a fire in a care home, but like the original question, there is absolutely nothing to it because the positives of the act hugely outweigh the negatives to the degree that it's almost superfluous to ask
What a perfect morning for me to wake up to with this beautiful upload.
Daaaaaaaamn I just discovered the series and binged the last 2 episodes for episode 3 to just drop,
All American Rejects. Jesus thanks for that nostalgia trip half way through my House fix
got some real funky takes in this vid, my guy
"Good Lord, who produced this show? Bryan Singer? Oh wait, he did."
Me: "OOOOOOOOOHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" 😂 🤣
6:27 Lisa's remarks about the show being "un-PC" is, indeed, one of the BIG reasons that the show was popular. It's something writers have forgotten or are scared to do. Scared they'll be an -ist or -ism or -phobe. Scared to be creative, to be bold. It's why we have such milktoast trash these days. It's why we have far too many shows preaching at us instead of entertaining us.
It's a big reason why I watch content creators on UA-cam instead of anything that's on Netflix or cable TV.
if House aired for the first time today, cancel-culture would have it off the air before the second episode even came out
Thats why their is virtually nothing produced in the last 10 years by Hollywood with any quality.
These videos are so amazing. Thank you bro.
Kinda feel like you missed the mark here
He did. He probably voted Biden.
Thank you so much for setting up that joke two UA-cam videos ago
"18 accounts for emotional and social maturity", Is the funniest unintentional joke I hear this year.
18:40... In theory...
If only it was always true!
Woooooosh to me
Hahahahaha
3:20 this is probably the only major point in this part that I’ll contend with: I really think blues and rock music is where House’s score shines; the cringey folk/indie music that gets sprinkled into emotional/dramatic scenes post-S1 almost ALWAYS subtract from impact those scenes would otherwise have, even if otherwise silent
Okay, I guess there is also 16:25, but I suppose that is to be expected for people who moronically care about “misgendering-“ not to call you a moron, just that the critique there is misplaced. But the Brian Singer involvement and uncharacteristic weirdness of House’s writing seems too close too coincidence to be overlooked imo.
"Would you let someone die to avoid being offensive?"
In ten years' time, this sentence will appear to have aged just as terribly as you seem to think House's lower hanging gags have. And in twenty, it may well be the opposite. I appreciate the thoroughness of the review, don't get me wrong.
Yeah... In 5 years, this show will be seen as a psycho thriller about an "OFFENSIVE DOCTOR" ruining people's lives, and making their lives longer, so they can suffer more...
NICE! I just got done watching the first two and i wanted to thank you for diving into a series that also feels like home to me. When the quarantine hit it was the first show i binged and afterward i went online looking for a video analysis about this brilliant show but to my surprise there was not. Thankfully yours is as brilliant as the show.
You missed the mark on this episode for me and excluding a few dated scenes as a gay guy i had a laugh watching them again
These videos are criminally fun to watch
18:09 maybe it's because he's actually smart?
I can't wait for part 5 about "Love". I really hope you discuss the relationship/similarities between House's addiction to drugs and his feelings for Cuddy, because I haven't seen anyone else on the internet dive into that. Looking forward to it!
Today I remember just how based House was
You got us all hooked man. This is gonna be on some Hbomberguy and Joseph Anderson levels of rewatchability.
Like the Sherlock is garbage and here's why video? I must have watched the whole thing at least 10 times by now Lmao