As an avid reader and fan of the books and show (well most of the show hahaha) I like to think of the TV adaptation as a sort of picture into what might have actually appeared, I see the books as testaments that make sense to history like many great real life books that retell stories. Maybe Cersi in this scene is the actual truth but the documented history states otherwise going on what actions she took after leading up to her eventual demise (when the next book comes out that is ahaha)
@erikat.9870 yeah I remember in the books she told him they should've scared him into keep it a secret instead. One of the very few times Cersei is thinking reasonably however in the books she purposely killed the child but idk if that's canon on the show or not
I think she is genuine in a way, I think this is one of the last rest of humanity that's left inside Cersei, that little humanity that we see die along the show.
I never realized it before, but the actress that plays Arya looks like she could truly be actress Catlin’s daughter… especially in this scene. They look quite a bit alike
Oh wow, I never actually noticed until you pointed it out but yeah they definitely do look very similar to each other here. It's kind of funny too since in the books Arya is the only trueborn Stark kid to not really look like Catelyn. Robb, Sansa, Bran, and Rickon's appearance all favor their Tully side while Arya is the only kid that actually has Stark features (Jon looking more like a Stark than her sons is another reason why Catelyn hates him as well).
Cersei withstood a lot of crazy shit. She’s a terrible person but you can still sympathize with her because of the terrible circumstances she endured to make her that way.
In the books they give you reasons to almost sympathize but also hate her. Eslecislly if you read about how Robert assaulted and bruised her. Then had the nerve to blame alcohol for doing that when she confronted him. He also almost killed Joffrey as a little boy. Most people don't care because they hate Cersei and Joffrey but it's not hard to see how Robert influenced them for the worst.
I wish this scene was in the books. Cersei was such an archetype of the evil queen in the books, but this scene made her much more interesting and human. It doesn't change how evil she is, but it does make her more complex. The fact that she went out of her way to see Catelyn (even though it was probably expected of her) and consoled her while trying to be genuine and empathize, despite being responsible for what happened, shows she felt some sort of guilt. Heavy stuff. I imagine she doesn't regret what she did but can still sympathize with Catelyn as a mother.
Book Cersei is boring. So unidimensional and uninteresting. Just a big power hungry ego. Show Cersei much better. She has a human side to her. Even when she's evil she does it only to protect her family, her children. Loved her until season 7 and 8. They made her unbearably stupid and evil (the same thing they did to Danny). In the show she is somewhat a tragic character, trying to keep afloat in a sea of enemies and trying to make her papa proud, only to die in the end, squashed by a pile of bricks.
This scene would not have made sense in the books. Cersei had her first child, and only child by Robert, aborted. It was never a live birth. This allows for the Maggy prophecy to be true (Cersei has three children and Robert has 16). She tells Eddard when he confronts her in the Godswood but she never would have told Cat she aborted Robert's child. That being said, Lena Headey made Cersei SO MUCH better than book Cersei actually is. She acted the hell out of that role, even after the show started being awful.
@@blueberryoatmeal4009 I don’t care who threw the hand. She slept with her brother and got caught. Her actions led to him being pushed. So in my opinion, it doesn’t matter if it was Jaime’s hand or hers.
@@MoJones9919In the book, she’s actually pissed at Jaime for doing it. She believed that she could’ve scared him or confused him into thinking he saw something else. After all, he’s a kid and had no idea what he was actually looking at. Jaime acted without thinking. In retrospect, he had a hand in causing the downfall of his family with that careless action.
Cersi is a manipulator but here i feel you do get to see an genuine side of her. I believe part of it is genuine because she actually loves her kids (im going off shown evidence only). We also heard her tell robert at one point she actually did love him. She was hurt that lyanna was the one that jad his heart even though she was dead. So right here when she's talking about losing her boy, that he was black haired and looked like robert. I believe her tears and heart break are genuine im almost half inclined to believe that her praying bran would survive was genuine (although i deeply believe that part mightve been bs considering bran knew their little secret)
The thing about her is that she’s so complex… Her reality was harsh and cruel and it made her mind go to harsh and cruel things but deep down her heart wanted love and happiness… And every time her heart broke (many times bc of her own actions ofc) it reminded her to not listen to it and go with her reality instead so she thought she was acting upon rationalism and was cold minded, but what actually happened was her heart always aching for love and her actions always swayed towards it. She tried to win her father’s approval, tried to get love out of jamie, hated tyrion out of love for her mother and did everything to share love with children. But bc she didn’t do it agreeing with herself and her motives and tried to be “smart” she always effed up. Her goals were from the heart but actions lined up towards something else bc she couldn’t accept that it was her heart that ruled her. And when she lost everything it was her heart that wanted nothing but revenge so her plans got dumber and dumber. She wasn’t clever bc there was no illusion to hold onto anymore.
I completely agree with you. This is why, though further into ther series i started to hate her more and more, there were still moments where id sympathize with her pain because it was genuine. I felt bad when she broke down after walking among the people naked and filthy. I also felt bad when she cried in front of tyrion when they talked about how joffery behaved and that he was their punishment for her and jamie being together. There are very few moments but there are moments where you see the vulnerable half of her and kind of feel for her. It makes me understand her motivations and her actions even if i dont agree with them. The same way i dont whole heartedly agree with Dany's decisions but i can understand them
@@Babysongebob1 same, I agree with everything you said. this show made me scared of myself because I realized that I sympathized way too much with women who did horrible things in a way felt like they needed more love than others and i need to be careful not to do the same in real life 💀
There are times when i genuinely feel sorry for her (mostly when her kids die), but this ain't one of em. She wants nothing more than Bran dead. I was suspicious of her story from the start, but when she said it looked like Robert...I'd bet anything she killed that baby.
It's canon in the show, but in the books it's not since Cersei refuses to have Robert's children (using various methods) out of spite after he called for Lyanna the first time they slept together. In the show however I think the son she's talking about here was probably conceived on their wedding night.
@@klauds6375I had thought that she did have this trueborn child of Robert. But that he was conceived on their wedding night, the same night he drunkenly called out Lyanna Starks name instead of hers. And after that night she didn’t do anything past third base with him. But I could be misremembering.
Cersei doesn't pray for anyone and she was just hoping that Bran was dead. Since he saw her committing incest and adultery. And in the books she took moon tea to have a miscarriage.
"Making honest feeling do dishonest work is one of her many gifts". While Cersei's love for her children is the only honest thing about her, she's definitely not above using that love to divert suspicion for what happened to Bran away from herself. Tyrion knew her better than anybody
This scene truly just shows you how sick Cersei was in the head. "I pray to the mother that she brings your boy back" knowing full well that she and Jamie are the reason he's half-dead to begin with and keeping her fingers crossed that he dies. Also she 100% killed that baby she was talking about. A black-haired Baratheon she wouldn't stand for.
That scene, the one with Robert where they discuss their marriage and the one where she admitted that she actually loved Robert in the beginning, made me sympathize with show Cersei. The book version I really despise.
@@lotstodo she wasn't like that, she suffered so much when her boy died. But she saw how robert treated that, how he drank and fvcked while she was left there grieving. She loved robert, his black hair. He whispered Lyannas name when bedding her. Cersei been thru too much..
It's almost funny that the only of her children to die at birth was the one she did NOT procreate with her brother. I'm amazed that Geoffrey, Myrcella and Tommen were all so healthy and did not look like the Habsburgs
To Cersei's credit, she was stunned and had yet to make a move when Jaime acted. I think she feels genuine remorse for what happened to Bran at this point in the story.
I can’t help but think Ghandri Baratheon was the black hair baby boy Cerci gave up, bc it was Robert’s baby, & Cerci wasn’t going to allow Robert’s blood to be the next king in line. Cerci wanted to be a Targaryen so bad, she had to create her own legacy. Cerci wanted her & brother James son to be the next king in line . So really they should have made Ghandri Baratheon should have been picked to be king, he really was the 2nd in line to thy iron throne. The melted iron throne… John Snow aka Aego Targaryen was First in line, but didn’t even get the chance to say rather or not he wanted to be king… but wouldn’t that have being funny if Ghandri would have been chosen! & Ghandri would have said yes I’ll be king if Arya will be my queen😱👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 OMG! Could you just image how mad & jealous Sansa would be😂 & when she tried to pull the bullshit about the north isn’t going to Bend the knee to anyone else, the north will stay an independent like it did for thousands of years, Arya would have said NO it’s not, bc all your doing is trying to be queen of the north & that isn’t going to happen… there will be only one queen of the 7 kingdoms & that queen will be me… Arya Baratheon….
@@angelaschmalke7836 sounds like Cerci. But on show how Cerci was talking about her first born son was black hair, died at birth,,, Cerci said the boy looked a lot like Brandon Stark… Anyway it made me wonder 💭 just maybe
When I was just starting to feel sorry for Cersei, I remembered Bran ended up like this after falling off a tower where he saw Cersei with Jamie... So, she's full of bullshit, she wanted Bran to die along with her secret...
Yeah... impossible, taking in the circumstances. In Books she admits that she did loose a child, before it was born, it was Robert's child and she hated it just as much as she hated Robert. And if the child was ever born it would be undeniable truth that other children are not his. As Jon Arryn said "the seed is strong" Black hair are dominating gene, every single one of the children born under Baratheon name were always black of hair
I'm not mad the show added this detail even though it's not canon. Because I think more importantly they're conveying that when it is actually Robert's child, the child has dark hair. Which none of Cersei's children do.
@@GrisProencashe only "loves" the children she got from jaimie. everone cercei cares about is an extension of herself for her. jaimie is how she sees herself in male and by that logic her children are only hers. thats why she loves them.
@@kathiamelie9630 it's a black and white vision you got there, people are more complexed than that... even the stupid Starks have some redeeming characteristics m
@@GrisProenca i mean what i said makes her a more complexed character than "she loves her children"🤷♀️ i think cercei has a lot of redeeming qualities especially when you look at her relationship with her father and how robert treated her but unconditional love for her children is just not one of it. she ignores tommon and myrcella for the most time and poisoned joffreys mind due to her obsession with him.
These scenes are definitely part of what was missing from the later seasons. Cersei was evil yes, but she was never ONLY evil, which is what made her interesting imo.
This is the straight epitome of evil...she isn't sincere in her "best wishes"/prayers for Bran...she wants him to die to save her secret & is only there because it is her duty as a guest in the house. These lies are just deception to pretend like she cares...just like she's pretending that she cared for the baby of hers she murdered by taking poison to kill it. She is ONLY evil in this scene.
No, she didn’t kill him. In the books Jaime took her to have an early abortion, but in the show she gave birth to the boy and loved him. The loss devastated her, and after that she eventually gave up with Robert and only had Jaime’s children.
@@Minna2442 They toned down some of Cersei's worst characteristics in the show, probably because the book version is so over the top psychotic (not to mention mindblowingly arrogant, her POV-chapters are really hilarious) at times that she could give Ramsay and Euron run for their money. She's sometimes difficult to take seriously, especially since have likes of Tywin and Olenna who really are as smart as Cersei thinks herself to be. That being said, the books do give Cersei some humanizing moments. They reveal that she's extremely insecure as age is creeping up on her, with each year she feels that she's losing part of herself and becoming less. She's to a point that she feels threathened by Brienne, of all people, and has to convince herself that Jamie would never choose an ogress like her.
Lena Headey is so good in this scene. But the scene itself bothers me so much. Cersei is the Queen. And the wife of the King of a brand new dynasty. Her pregnancy and the birth of a son, especially would have been big news. Every person in the kingdom would have known she had given birth to an heir, but especially major Lords and Ladies who would have sent gifts. And they definitely all would have known if that heir died. Cat acts like she had no idea the flippin King and Queen lost a child. It's a beautiful scene and both actresses act their hearts out but it just doesn't make sense.
Does no one realize that because in the books she killed Robert's children. This is her using one lie to create sympathy and take suspicion away from her for another!😮 Everyone is like "oh she's so much more human and showing real emotion". No it's just another layer of evil and malintention disguised as real emotion
Wait, but doesn't that kinda break the prophecy Cersei gets? About her having three kids, Robert having a shitload, but them not having any children together? I just realised this
In this sequence, Cerseï broke my heart and fall me in tears, i was so shocked to learn and know this when I saw this scene. I felt the need to give him my condolences for his first son. 🥺
@@OlivePall I didn't. However, I can imagine Cersei must have been terrified at the thought of what would happen if Bran woke up, given that it could mean ruin for her, Jaime, and their children. Nevertheless, she still managed to show empathy towards Catelyn, who was desperate and praying for her son's recovery. I think it's important to acknowledge Cersei's fear and the pressure she was under, yet she also showed some sympathy towards Catelyn as a fellow mother. This doesn't excuse the terrible choices she made, of course. But we can understand her motivations while still holding her accountable and appreciate the depth this scene added to her character.
@@OlivePall You might be right, honestly. This scene could be twofold: either she's faking care, or there's a part of her that is honest. The way the scene went about it and with Lena's acting, it doesn't look like she was faking it. It seemed like a sincere moment.
That makes no sense. If Cersei have had a child before Joffrey and have lost it, the WHOLE REAL would have know it 💁 All peoplle would have know the King owuld have his forst heir and there would be lots of preparations for festivity
Damn, one of the few times I actually feel sorry for Cersei. And then I realized she's almost definitely manipulating Cat. If the child was Robert's, she probably killed him.
What was with the raised eyebrows on C. Stark? Was there a double meeting in Cersei's statement @perhaps the mother will listen this time"? I didn't watch the show so I don't know.
There was a scene with Sersei and Robert when they were talking about their relationship and that Sersei loved Robert even after their son died. So that's was true.
B.S.!!!CERSEI admits it plain and simple to ned stark in the ICONIC conversation where she says the part about playing the "game of thrones" - the night her and robert were married he showed he couldnt give a crap less about her, and she decided from that night on, she would just make her own best of it. In all the best ways possible in her twisted head. SO NO, NOT TRUE. Who couldve loved robert baratheon?? He was a misogynistic p.o.s.!!
Now THAT’S how you pull off being a two-faced viper. ❤
It’s an under appreciated art form.
I think it was mostly genuine, at least the end, she was pissed at Jaime for pushing bran
As an avid reader and fan of the books and show (well most of the show hahaha) I like to think of the TV adaptation as a sort of picture into what might have actually appeared, I see the books as testaments that make sense to history like many great real life books that retell stories. Maybe Cersi in this scene is the actual truth but the documented history states otherwise going on what actions she took after leading up to her eventual demise (when the next book comes out that is ahaha)
She wasn’t being two faced here, she does regret that Bran had to be pushed out, but that was the monkey way to ensure her and Jamie’s secret
@erikat.9870 yeah I remember in the books she told him they should've scared him into keep it a secret instead. One of the very few times Cersei is thinking reasonably however in the books she purposely killed the child but idk if that's canon on the show or not
I might have believed her if the child wasn’t laying there in that condition due to HER secret perversions. She sounds genuine in her sympathy.
I think she is genuine in a way, I think this is one of the last rest of humanity that's left inside Cersei, that little humanity that we see die along the show.
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Because it wasn't her who shoved him it was Jamie. And unlike him she actually did think it was too much.
@@Ashbrash1998 Yeah in the book Cersei actually got really pissed at Jamie for shoving Bran out the window.
Bc she’s thinking ab her own pain, not Caitlin’s.
I never realized it before, but the actress that plays Arya looks like she could truly be actress Catlin’s daughter… especially in this scene. They look quite a bit alike
But Maisie Williams is cute
Oh wow, I never actually noticed until you pointed it out but yeah they definitely do look very similar to each other here.
It's kind of funny too since in the books Arya is the only trueborn Stark kid to not really look like Catelyn. Robb, Sansa, Bran, and Rickon's appearance all favor their Tully side while Arya is the only kid that actually has Stark features (Jon looking more like a Stark than her sons is another reason why Catelyn hates him as well).
@@Nozubozu I had never noticed it till I watched this clip
Arya is not in this scene. The child in the bed is Bran. After he was pushed off the tower
@@ladymerrick I know… I just realized how much they look alike
Cersei is so good at sounding genuine to make herself seem like a better person. Incredible acting by Lena.
The best liars mix truth with fake to manipulate you. This is master
That's what my grandfather used to say... that the most dangerous thing about liars, is how 80% of the time, they tell the truth.
“Cersei is good at using the truth to tell a lie”
Man Lena Headey really was phenomenal... She could actually make you feel for Cersei❤
She didn't care about naratheons child. She killed them all herself.
She's acting
@@aelius93 where in my comment did I say that Cersei was being genuine here ? I just praised Lena's acting 🤦🏻♀️
@@aelius93 *Baratheon
@@aelius93 - we know she's acting....Lena is, after all, an actress. LOL
You shouldn’t
It’s crazy how we feel so many emotions when it comes to Cersei, it’s like we hate her but sometimes almost… sympathize?
We can understand other people, but at the same time don't agree with their actions. It's normal.
Its a really sad character
False sense of sympathy. She killed her baby and was there when Bran was nearly killed
Cersei withstood a lot of crazy shit. She’s a terrible person but you can still sympathize with her because of the terrible circumstances she endured to make her that way.
In the books they give you reasons to almost sympathize but also hate her. Eslecislly if you read about how Robert assaulted and bruised her. Then had the nerve to blame alcohol for doing that when she confronted him. He also almost killed Joffrey as a little boy. Most people don't care because they hate Cersei and Joffrey but it's not hard to see how Robert influenced them for the worst.
“Making honest feelings do dishonest work is one of her many gifts.”
I wish this scene was in the books. Cersei was such an archetype of the evil queen in the books, but this scene made her much more interesting and human. It doesn't change how evil she is, but it does make her more complex. The fact that she went out of her way to see Catelyn (even though it was probably expected of her) and consoled her while trying to be genuine and empathize, despite being responsible for what happened, shows she felt some sort of guilt. Heavy stuff. I imagine she doesn't regret what she did but can still sympathize with Catelyn as a mother.
Book Cersei is boring. So unidimensional and uninteresting. Just a big power hungry ego.
Show Cersei much better. She has a human side to her. Even when she's evil she does it only to protect her family, her children. Loved her until season 7 and 8. They made her unbearably stupid and evil (the same thing they did to Danny).
In the show she is somewhat a tragic character, trying to keep afloat in a sea of enemies and trying to make her papa proud, only to die in the end, squashed by a pile of bricks.
This scene would not have made sense in the books. Cersei had her first child, and only child by Robert, aborted. It was never a live birth. This allows for the Maggy prophecy to be true (Cersei has three children and Robert has 16). She tells Eddard when he confronts her in the Godswood but she never would have told Cat she aborted Robert's child. That being said, Lena Headey made Cersei SO MUCH better than book Cersei actually is. She acted the hell out of that role, even after the show started being awful.
And told jaimee Off
Cersei is so thoughtful and compassionate. 😂 Lol
Lena Headey did a fantastic job portraying her! Lots of great actors in Game of Thrones
Joffrey is the best 🤣🤣🤣
Tyrion to Oberyn in the dungeons, awaiting trial: Making honest feelings do dishonest work is one of Cersei’s many talents.
Amazing actress. Makes you believe for a second that Cercei is human.
‘This is your home. I’m your guest’ girl you boned your brother and pushed that baby out the window 😂
The scream I just scrumpt at this comment 😂
Jaime pushed him.
@@blueberryoatmeal4009 I don’t care who threw the hand. She slept with her brother and got caught. Her actions led to him being pushed. So in my opinion, it doesn’t matter if it was Jaime’s hand or hers.
@@MoJones9919In the book, she’s actually pissed at Jaime for doing it. She believed that she could’ve scared him or confused him into thinking he saw something else. After all, he’s a kid and had no idea what he was actually looking at. Jaime acted without thinking. In retrospect, he had a hand in causing the downfall of his family with that careless action.
Cersi is a manipulator but here i feel you do get to see an genuine side of her. I believe part of it is genuine because she actually loves her kids (im going off shown evidence only). We also heard her tell robert at one point she actually did love him. She was hurt that lyanna was the one that jad his heart even though she was dead. So right here when she's talking about losing her boy, that he was black haired and looked like robert. I believe her tears and heart break are genuine im almost half inclined to believe that her praying bran would survive was genuine (although i deeply believe that part mightve been bs considering bran knew their little secret)
The thing about her is that she’s so complex… Her reality was harsh and cruel and it made her mind go to harsh and cruel things but deep down her heart wanted love and happiness… And every time her heart broke (many times bc of her own actions ofc) it reminded her to not listen to it and go with her reality instead so she thought she was acting upon rationalism and was cold minded, but what actually happened was her heart always aching for love and her actions always swayed towards it. She tried to win her father’s approval, tried to get love out of jamie, hated tyrion out of love for her mother and did everything to share love with children. But bc she didn’t do it agreeing with herself and her motives and tried to be “smart” she always effed up. Her goals were from the heart but actions lined up towards something else bc she couldn’t accept that it was her heart that ruled her. And when she lost everything it was her heart that wanted nothing but revenge so her plans got dumber and dumber. She wasn’t clever bc there was no illusion to hold onto anymore.
I completely agree with you. This is why, though further into ther series i started to hate her more and more, there were still moments where id sympathize with her pain because it was genuine. I felt bad when she broke down after walking among the people naked and filthy. I also felt bad when she cried in front of tyrion when they talked about how joffery behaved and that he was their punishment for her and jamie being together. There are very few moments but there are moments where you see the vulnerable half of her and kind of feel for her. It makes me understand her motivations and her actions even if i dont agree with them. The same way i dont whole heartedly agree with Dany's decisions but i can understand them
@@Babysongebob1 same, I agree with everything you said. this show made me scared of myself because I realized that I sympathized way too much with women who did horrible things in a way felt like they needed more love than others and i need to be careful not to do the same in real life 💀
There are times when i genuinely feel sorry for her (mostly when her kids die), but this ain't one of em.
She wants nothing more than Bran dead.
I was suspicious of her story from the start, but when she said it looked like Robert...I'd bet anything she killed that baby.
Cersei saying the boy looked like Robert is such bs lol
Nah, in the show, all this is canon. She and Robert had a son before Joffrey that was actually Robert's son.
Nah, this is the only child of Roberts she ever had
It's canon in the show, but in the books it's not since Cersei refuses to have Robert's children (using various methods) out of spite after he called for Lyanna the first time they slept together. In the show however I think the son she's talking about here was probably conceived on their wedding night.
@@klauds6375I had thought that she did have this trueborn child of Robert. But that he was conceived on their wedding night, the same night he drunkenly called out Lyanna Starks name instead of hers. And after that night she didn’t do anything past third base with him. But I could be misremembering.
She was a virgin that night? Or she'd already slept with Jamie?
Cersei doesn't pray for anyone and she was just hoping that Bran was dead. Since he saw her committing incest and adultery. And in the books she took moon tea to have a miscarriage.
"Making honest feeling do dishonest work is one of her many gifts".
While Cersei's love for her children is the only honest thing about her, she's definitely not above using that love to divert suspicion for what happened to Bran away from herself. Tyrion knew her better than anybody
This scene truly just shows you how sick Cersei was in the head. "I pray to the mother that she brings your boy back" knowing full well that she and Jamie are the reason he's half-dead to begin with and keeping her fingers crossed that he dies.
Also she 100% killed that baby she was talking about. A black-haired Baratheon she wouldn't stand for.
If you despise a character in a TV show or movie , it just shows how good an actor the person is .
cersei yassed so hard in the first season like these scenes are SOOOOO good
That scene, the one with Robert where they discuss their marriage and the one where she admitted that she actually loved Robert in the beginning, made me sympathize with show Cersei. The book version I really despise.
that's the most empathy she's ever felt
Honest feelings and doing dishonest work is one of my sister's greatest gift
-tyrion
What a manipulator
Black haired sure she killed him himself
Right? I thought the same thing. She only wanted Jaime's children.
She did not.
In the books yes, not in the show. You see how much it hurts her remembering.
@vjimenez8 yes, but she manipulates people. She also acts like she cares about the Stark boy.
@@lotstodo she wasn't like that, she suffered so much when her boy died. But she saw how robert treated that, how he drank and fvcked while she was left there grieving. She loved robert, his black hair. He whispered Lyannas name when bedding her. Cersei been thru too much..
I COMPLETELY forgot that she had another child who was ACTUALLY Robert’s.
Book Cersei is a crazed animal. Show runners actually portrayed her way more humane than the book version.
It's almost funny that the only of her children to die at birth was the one she did NOT procreate with her brother. I'm amazed that Geoffrey, Myrcella and Tommen were all so healthy and did not look like the Habsburgs
The son that looked like him!! The only son that was his anyway
She lies as casually as she breaths
To Cersei's credit, she was stunned and had yet to make a move when Jaime acted. I think she feels genuine remorse for what happened to Bran at this point in the story.
How good and positive was S1. It all went dark after this
Season 1 of GoT should be studied. Perfect casting, perfect lines.
It's funny how I didn't know she was pregnant then. Thought she was just cold in every acene 😂
anyone who felt a little sympathetic for her, she 100% killed her first kid in the books bc it was actually roberts
Liar Liar version:
Cersi: he is handsome.... But he saw us!
In the books she literally revels in killing Roberts children and is overwhelmingly sadistic about it
It's interesting how she refers to the baby she lost as a bird. And later Sansa as a dove.
Narcissistic manipulation.
Feels like with the right context, the villains would have ended up as heroes. But unfortunate circumstances made them act on their worse half
Cersei bby you are breaking my heart:(
I can’t help but think Ghandri Baratheon was the black hair baby boy Cerci gave up, bc it was Robert’s baby, & Cerci wasn’t going to allow Robert’s blood to be the next king in line. Cerci wanted to be a Targaryen so bad, she had to create her own legacy. Cerci wanted her & brother James son to be the next king in line . So really they should have made Ghandri Baratheon should have been picked to be king, he really was the 2nd in line to thy iron throne. The melted iron throne… John Snow aka Aego Targaryen was First in line, but didn’t even get the chance to say rather or not he wanted to be king… but wouldn’t that have being funny if Ghandri would have been chosen! & Ghandri would have said yes I’ll be king if Arya will be my queen😱👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 OMG! Could you just image how mad & jealous Sansa would be😂 & when she tried to pull the bullshit about the north isn’t going to Bend the knee to anyone else, the north will stay an independent like it did for thousands of years, Arya would have said NO it’s not, bc all your doing is trying to be queen of the north & that isn’t going to happen… there will be only one queen of the 7 kingdoms & that queen will be me… Arya Baratheon….
Ghandri said his mother was blonde.he goes more details in the books about it how she would sing songs to him and where gold and red
@@angelaschmalke7836 sounds like Cerci. But on show how Cerci was talking about her first born son was black hair, died at birth,,, Cerci said the boy looked a lot like Brandon Stark… Anyway it made me wonder 💭 just maybe
I forgot about this scene. The one time that Cat and Cersei came close to liking each other.
At least this one's best.
She wanted that boy to die
Perhaps this time shell listen.... Hmm. Doesnt seem shes as complex and deep, just undertone enough for some folks to miss..
Soooo she killed the kid herself, right???
That boy was Gendry.
In the books, she never had a child with Robert.
I miss that while I was watching the show that she had actually had a child by Robert, but just the one
When I was just starting to feel sorry for Cersei, I remembered Bran ended up like this after falling off a tower where he saw Cersei with Jamie... So, she's full of bullshit, she wanted Bran to die along with her secret...
Bro speaks in 0.25X play speed😂
Yeah... impossible, taking in the circumstances.
In Books she admits that she did loose a child, before it was born, it was Robert's child and she hated it just as much as she hated Robert.
And if the child was ever born it would be undeniable truth that other children are not his. As Jon Arryn said "the seed is strong"
Black hair are dominating gene, every single one of the children born under Baratheon name were always black of hair
Black hair means he was Robert's trueborn son. How many thousands of people would still be alive if he lived to inherit the throne?
She killed them both
with this speech Cersei almost sounds human... Almost
I don't remember this scene. Didn't even know Cersai had any more kids other then the 3 with her bro
She talking about Gendry I bet. She probably gave him away cause he had black hair
Cersei is the only character I prefer from the show than the books besides seasons 1-4 Tyrion, oh, and I guess Jorah and Davos to, oh and the Hound.
She hurts and cries bcuz that was the only baby she had w/ Robert. Prob the only time in the entire marriage they were good
Diabolical
Gaslighter just we saw
Fake tears and everything.
She and Robert had a son? Genuinely had a son together? Was this in the books?
This talk never existed in books
In the books, during Ned and Cerseis confrontation; She told him that she once got pregnant from Robert but had it aborted.
I'm not mad the show added this detail even though it's not canon. Because I think more importantly they're conveying that when it is actually Robert's child, the child has dark hair. Which none of Cersei's children do.
Oh shes good…. Vile… but good…
*Catelyn
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So the witch was wrong and she had 4 kids?
Wasn’t this the son she murdered??
Villains are but damaged humans.
Is that canon , and she kill the child
Lies. All of it.
One time Cersie was actually human
Was gendry one of her children with Robert?
No. He is Robert's son, yes. But a bastard with another woman.
That line about Cersei praying to the mother hits different now after learning that Catlin once prayed for Jon to die as an infant.
She killed that child in book. Cersie kept taking medicine so she wouldn't have Robert's kids
She's worse in books
Really? But she love her kids and be a mother
@@GrisProencashe only "loves" the children she got from jaimie. everone cercei cares about is an extension of herself for her. jaimie is how she sees herself in male and by that logic her children are only hers. thats why she loves them.
@@kathiamelie9630 it's a black and white vision you got there, people are more complexed than that... even the stupid Starks have some redeeming characteristics m
@@GrisProenca i mean what i said makes her a more complexed character than "she loves her children"🤷♀️ i think cercei has a lot of redeeming qualities especially when you look at her relationship with her father and how robert treated her but unconditional love for her children is just not one of it. she ignores tommon and myrcella for the most time and poisoned joffreys mind due to her obsession with him.
These scenes are definitely part of what was missing from the later seasons. Cersei was evil yes, but she was never ONLY evil, which is what made her interesting imo.
She was lying. In the books it is revealed that she took different “remedies” for every of her pregnancies with Robert.
@@nicssss2894 and the prophecy she receives as a child talk about 3 kids that would die not four. She probably made up that whole story
@@nicssss2894 the books are different from the shows.
None of the characters in the books or show are wholly good/evil - just as people are in reality.
This is the straight epitome of evil...she isn't sincere in her "best wishes"/prayers for Bran...she wants him to die to save her secret & is only there because it is her duty as a guest in the house.
These lies are just deception to pretend like she cares...just like she's pretending that she cared for the baby of hers she murdered by taking poison to kill it.
She is ONLY evil in this scene.
Didn’t mention she killed her own child with Robert Baratheon out of sheer spite! This woman is a real piece of work. 😮
Only in books
No, she didn’t kill him.
In the books Jaime took her to have an early abortion, but in the show she gave birth to the boy and loved him. The loss devastated her, and after that she eventually gave up with Robert and only had Jaime’s children.
@@Minna2442 They toned down some of Cersei's worst characteristics in the show, probably because the book version is so over the top psychotic (not to mention mindblowingly arrogant, her POV-chapters are really hilarious) at times that she could give Ramsay and Euron run for their money. She's sometimes difficult to take seriously, especially since have likes of Tywin and Olenna who really are as smart as Cersei thinks herself to be.
That being said, the books do give Cersei some humanizing moments. They reveal that she's extremely insecure as age is creeping up on her, with each year she feels that she's losing part of herself and becoming less. She's to a point that she feels threathened by Brienne, of all people, and has to convince herself that Jamie would never choose an ogress like her.
If they hadn't toned it down for the show people would have complained about it
Yeah, one thing I truly *hate* about her and her whole family and social structure at that is *precisely* that one detail.
One of the best things about seasons 1-4 is the lack of budget, the off-book dialogues that were created thanks to that are so good...
Lena Headey is so good in this scene. But the scene itself bothers me so much. Cersei is the Queen. And the wife of the King of a brand new dynasty. Her pregnancy and the birth of a son, especially would have been big news. Every person in the kingdom would have known she had given birth to an heir, but especially major Lords and Ladies who would have sent gifts. And they definitely all would have known if that heir died. Cat acts like she had no idea the flippin King and Queen lost a child. It's a beautiful scene and both actresses act their hearts out but it just doesn't make sense.
Does no one realize that because in the books she killed Robert's children. This is her using one lie to create sympathy and take suspicion away from her for another!😮 Everyone is like "oh she's so much more human and showing real emotion". No it's just another layer of evil and malintention disguised as real emotion
Wait, but doesn't that kinda break the prophecy Cersei gets? About her having three kids, Robert having a shitload, but them not having any children together? I just realised this
Perhaps the prophecy meant children who lived to adulthood
@@nektoneizvestniy2050 or those who were born. Or maybe the witch "kinda forgot" 😂🙄😂
In this sequence, Cerseï broke my heart and fall me in tears, i was so shocked to learn and know this when I saw this scene. I felt the need to give him my condolences for his first son. 🥺
lol you forgot it is because of her Bran fell ?
@@OlivePall I didn't. However, I can imagine Cersei must have been terrified at the thought of what would happen if Bran woke up, given that it could mean ruin for her, Jaime, and their children. Nevertheless, she still managed to show empathy towards Catelyn, who was desperate and praying for her son's recovery. I think it's important to acknowledge Cersei's fear and the pressure she was under, yet she also showed some sympathy towards Catelyn as a fellow mother. This doesn't excuse the terrible choices she made, of course. But we can understand her motivations while still holding her accountable and appreciate the depth this scene added to her character.
@@corsariocapitao that’s where you are confused, because it was not sympathy at all. She was just faking
@@OlivePall You might be right, honestly. This scene could be twofold: either she's faking care, or there's a part of her that is honest. The way the scene went about it and with Lena's acting, it doesn't look like she was faking it. It seemed like a sincere moment.
@@corsariocapitao😂😂😂 don’t be fool by her fake tears. She is a cool blood murderer, a psychopath
in what world would Catelyn not know about the prince of the realm and heir to the iron realm being born and dying
I don't know I should praise Lena or Cersei. Damn good actress. Escpecially when the kid is in that condition because of her. 😅
That makes no sense. If Cersei have had a child before Joffrey and have lost it, the WHOLE REAL would have know it 💁 All peoplle would have know the King owuld have his forst heir and there would be lots of preparations for festivity
Damn, one of the few times I actually feel sorry for Cersei. And then I realized she's almost definitely manipulating Cat. If the child was Robert's, she probably killed him.
Cersi is such a psychopath
Cersei …. Phenomenal spirit of evil!!! Showing sympathy.. for the evil she perpetrated.. and telling a sad story to garner sympathy for herself!!!!
She killed her baby and is responsible for crippling Kaitlyn’s
What was with the raised eyebrows on C. Stark? Was there a double meeting in Cersei's statement @perhaps the mother will listen this time"? I didn't watch the show so I don't know.
I can't believe lena didn't receive a Grammy for this rôle !!!what the fuck ???! Best actress in history I swear
Hey Cers…
did the dead kid even really exist?
Cersei's gowns were fabulous before Margery came along.
Being an actress playing a character putting on an act.
Manipulative sympathy thru tears and sorrowful words.
There was a scene with Sersei and Robert when they were talking about their relationship and that Sersei loved Robert even after their son died. So that's was true.
B.S.!!!CERSEI admits it plain and simple to ned stark in the ICONIC conversation where she says the part about playing the "game of thrones" - the night her and robert were married he showed he couldnt give a crap less about her, and she decided from that night on, she would just make her own best of it. In all the best ways possible in her twisted head. SO NO, NOT TRUE. Who couldve loved robert baratheon?? He was a misogynistic p.o.s.!!
I mean Cersei totally sums up barneys hot crazy scale lol
A true Psycho is very rare. Especially in women 😢
Way to make your condolences for Bran all about yourself...