I wanted to do this too but I gave in and played remake a month before rebirth came out because I got a ps5. I think that you will be very thankful that you waited for the 3rd game.
I platinumed Remake and Rebirth and will platinum part 3 and will definitely buy a 3 part combined game of the remake if it ever happens 🤞. I love FF7 a lot ❤️
I got platin kn both too and how much I hated to platin Rebirth. It was such a pain. And even when part 3 will e even more pain the game deserves it😂 Am btw not one of these yi have to get platin on all games^^
I’d love it if they could smash it into a mega game but I expect it will be a single title where you select which part of the trilogy to play on the title screen. Each one is so big, too, in storage space. However I do believe you are correct that there will be a mega title released some years after part 3 that gives remake all the improvements that rebirth brought to the battle system etc.
they should do a reprint with all games in 1 package i would buy in heart beat. 1st in line lets call it FinalFantasy 7 lifestream or Final Fantasy 7 Return to Midgar as the bundled name.
I would be into that, or turn it into endgame content? Like that dungeon you go into to find Wedge & then later fight the Behemoth 0 in. Cut it from the story, but have it explorable in the endgame after regaining access to sector 5 & 6 as a late game dungeon. Do that with as much of the superfluous content as possible and give us as tight of a golden path as possible. I found both these games very enjoyable to straight shot on hard mode.
I feel like a large majority of Rebirth is extra non important stuff, felt kind of like a vacation and minigame simulator. But I mean I never played the OG so this could’ve been a sort of chill side questy part of the overarching story when it was one whole game.
I can easily see all the Pokemon regions connected more than I could see the FF7 remake trilogy being combined together. There’s way too much rebalancing that has to happen for that to work and if you get into stream lining the story to 20 hours it gets even more impossible because the greatest thing this trilogy does is flesh out the locations of the world
on a side note they should reprint final fantasy 7 hd remaster/ port of the original game bring to all consoles physical release. switchps4,ps5 . also if this happened i would like to see modes added outside of storyline from main menu 1. grind mode, player can play any/all of only open world map fight as they please without having to go through story in grind mode fight,grind level up characters maxed out with all weapons and materia, equiptment along the way as you level up. 2. is boss mode without story playthrough players can fight any/all bosses you level up from grind mode to be able to beat bosses and 3. mini game mode players can play any mini game without storyline. this needs to happen besides the modes add ons not dlc installed on physical game. should get this for new hardware yes we got ff7 on switch but it was bundled with ff8 i want a print of its own. plus the modes would be a nice touch to add. please comment and share if you think they should do this. comment and subscribe video.
I think from a marketing perspective, there are a couple of reasons we may eventually see this. 5 & 10 year anniversary Remasters & 10th+ Gen Console remasters could possibly benefit from the Buzz of a Directors cut where they all become 1 big game. I think it would appeal to people who passed on it first time round by being episodic. Marks like myself would also buy it again. They could also argue that its 3 Tripple A games, with 2 A's left on the cutting room floor, making it the worlds first 7 A game... Also... It is 95% the same story as the OG with the end sections being very different in their presentation. I think It wouldn't be a huge task to create an alternative version of the game that tells the original story, they wouldn't have to change all that much. If this was in the form of a directors cut I think it would create a lot of Marketing buzz and revitalise a section of the community that has disengaged from the R trilogy project. Also, suckers like me would buy it yet again.
Or they could just bundle the games together and sell all 3 in one package. Like a remaster. Let's be real when part 3 comes out they will sell a triple pack that has the entire trilogy.
@@Step43099 i agree but 7 remake actually wont be fully complete without this. im just crossing fingers thats all . they talk about more games in the ff7 universe this would be one to add.
They could patch REMAKE and REBIRTH so that there is a natural progression with the party, weapons, materias, a difficulty setting of its own for better balance, etc. That way, it really feels like we are continuing our playthrough when starting the next game. Then when Part 3 releases, we just progress from REBIRTH. Rather than using New Game in REBIRTH and PART 3, we load the completed save file from the previous game and it automatically starts the new game with your previous party setup. I like the idea that elemental materias could be like: Fire (REMAKE), Fira (REBIRTH), Firaga (Part 3).
They would need to redo the games again. The games as they are now only work because they are seperated. For Hardmode specifically they could make it a baseline mode. Easy being targeted towards kids/new gamers, normal towards regular, casual gamers and hardmode for the sweaty gamers, no extra rewards. The books we now get out of hardmode can be redistributed across the games side content. Sync abilities may need to be scrapped and only be something you can pull of against special encounters or within the VR fights, that would make balancing and environmental design way easier. But biggest factor will be how distribute weapons and materia across the game. Weapons may end up easy, for materia maybe unlocking the next stage at Chadely via materia fusion or something (like fusing 3 leveled vita materia into a vitra one)
When it comes to balancing gameplay for a "complete" FF7 remake, I think a good way to do it would be them expanding the folio system and working it into FF7 Remake. Let the player unlock stuff insdie the characters base kits. Such as how cloud going from Remake to Rebirth inexplicably gained all these new base abilities, like his ranged attacks, or his arial gap closer thing. They can expand on the abilities the characters have access to without expending atb, or mp, or synergy, and potentially give modifiers to them as well as something else to level. That way they could reward you with some kind of Folio currency. Then bring back weapon leveling from Remake so you can detach SP from the folio system. And of course you can keep the party level system as well rewarding you with more branches of you folios as you do more side content as an additional reward. I think the folio system should be expanded in general, so if they made is a massive sprawling multi branch skill tree for every character, on top deep weapon customization from Remake, and the materia system, you could build your team to be EXACTLY what you want them to be, and it would be super rewarding.
Dogtown is probably the closest games have come to rendering a dense open world. Anyone whose played Phantom Liberty understands the compromise the hardware makes is places. Security checkpoints be damned, Midgar is Dogtown, The Continent is Night City. Even then, Rebirth made it clear it would take rendering the world like Ni no Kuni 2 to sell the scale
Yes, I would like the idea of combining the games and better unifying the combat systems, menus, etc. as well as allowing us to carry weapons, EXP, AP, materia, etc. over to the other games. I suppose that could radically cause SE to have to revise a lot, but just a thought.
Modders could probably figure something out when all 3 are out on PC. It would require a lot of messing around with levels and available materia, equipment, etc.
All of his "problems" could totally be dealt with. I'm not saying it wouldn't take effort but there are massive rpgs that already deal with problems similar to these, they are solvable. I think regardless if square doesn't do it modders will, it'll just take longer. But I mean look at new threat 2.0 thats a mod that completly changes the base game into almost a whole new experience or enderal for skyrim that makes an entirely new game from the skyrim assests like it will be done the only questions are when and how good they are.
I don't think they'll make this into a mega game, each game was designed from the ground up as a standalone title, at this point it truly is a trilogy, and it would make about as much sense as making a mega movie out of the Star Wars films, LotR, or The Matrix. It makes more sense because you typically watch a movie all in one go but play games in pieces, but it also makes less sense because it would take drastic changes and tons of work to rebalance the gameplay. I could maybe see them releasing all 3 in a single collection, but by the time that would happen games will probably be digital only anyway, so I'm not sure they actually would at that point. It would be cool though!
Wouldn't that just be how it works if you already have Remake and Rebirth installed on your PS5/PC? You already have the assets on your drive and so anything in the 3rd game would just be updating those assets in Midgar (adding extra areas for the re-entry) and updates to areas from Rebirth based on story? Maybe it's just me, but that's how I'm picturing it 😂 Good way to sell copies of Remake and Rebirth as a bundle for those jumping in only on the 3rd game 😂😂😂
I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect. I’d love it, of course I would. They just wouldn’t do it. If they do, I think this project becomes way too complicated. It could work, but this really would have had to have been the goal from the start. Otherwise it necessitates what is effectively a FFVII Remake trilogy Remake. It makes no business sense. I think taking a critical eye to their trilogy and making them one seamless experience would be an interesting effort, but too much about this is conflicting on principle.
I fully expect Square will do this 1-3 years after the release of Part 3. A chance to go back and unify the entire trilogy back into a single cohesive game and sell it all over again for another $70...or more, frankly...is totally within the realm of possibility at this point. Square has demonstrated that this trilogy is the golden child, they are throwing everything they have at it. "Reasonable" is not a concern.
Good vid, I've been mulling this over myself. Another reason they may consider this is that it is 95% the same story as the OG with the end sections being very different in their presentation. I don't think it would be a huge task (relatively speaking) to create an alternative version of the game that tells the original story, they wouldn't have to change all that much. I think this could be a big marketing move to make, either after the trilogy is done or for an anniversary or remaster Directors Cut. FF7 Remake Classic Edition or Classic story. I think there is a large section of the fan base that has been turned off by the approach of the R-trilogy, this would be a nice way to get their mone... I mean get them interested in the project again. Would be like a New Slurm vs Classic Slurm like situation (see link below for context). ua-cam.com/video/1mDsjeEj1jc/v-deo.htmlsi=WxYiVCEGpuaA6zqX&t=43
the point would be to make it all work together adding some new scenes and re working the level and battling system to match the high levels and level cap should be 200 and the whole materia thing you talked about made 0 sense the original game worked exactly like that and was fine and again the point would be to remake it all to make it work and worth buying the whole package again. who doesn't want high level fight and high level weapons why would any of this be bad?
Honestly, with how bloated Rebirth is, they could have made this all into one game. Zach’s inclusion in the story is so unnecessary and this whisper stuff has not paid off so far (we’ll see if they can pull it off in part 3 but I’m not holding my breath). I recently platinumed Rebirth so I’m just saying how I feel about this series. Just a missed opportunity to give us an actual remake.
They really should have split the game into only 2 parts. They could have gone from Midgar to Aerith's death in game 1 and finished the rest in game 2. The pacing of Remake and Rebirth is terrible, unfortunately. The sidequests also rarely add anything useful to the lore of the universe, and the idiotic fanservice with Zack really ruins the narrative, especially that interlude. What I feel is that they're trying to please every type of fan of the original game and the collection, which is why they didn't make it explicit whether Aerith really died, why they made that fight at the end of the Remake against Sephiroth similar to Advent Children, why they keep pushing Zack into the narrative unnecessarily, and that's when they end up valuing fanservice more than narrative coherence. The developers could very well have cut 90% of the Wall Market segment in the Remake, unfortunately the game could have had a much better pace if instead of limiting themselves to just Midgar, they had gone further in the game. In Rebirth, on the other hand, the story progresses extremely slowly, and instead of adding lots of new things to the lore and exploring the universe more, they opted for another route too.
they are one big game lol theyre selling you disc one two and three and possibly an advent children disc 4 so... lol look forward to it and take care of yourselves
Better be called "Recollection"
FFVII: Repentance :D
FFVII: Recompile Part 1, then using DoC, and some of the other spin offs that happen in the future as part 2.
As someone who got FF7 for Christmas in 97, I was 14. I am holding out till the third game to start
I wanted to do this too but I gave in and played remake a month before rebirth came out because I got a ps5. I think that you will be very thankful that you waited for the 3rd game.
Wont happen. A collection of the 3 titles, maybe, probably even. But combining them all? Wont happen
What is the point when there is only one game left? I just want part 3 to be a massive game like rebrith
I platinumed Remake and Rebirth and will platinum part 3 and will definitely buy a 3 part combined game of the remake if it ever happens 🤞. I love FF7 a lot ❤️
I got platin kn both too and how much I hated to platin Rebirth. It was such a pain. And even when part 3 will e even more pain the game deserves it😂
Am btw not one of these yi have to get platin on all games^^
Mass Effect: Legendary Edition is the what we're gonna get for FF7 Remakes
I’d love it if they could smash it into a mega game but I expect it will be a single title where you select which part of the trilogy to play on the title screen. Each one is so big, too, in storage space. However I do believe you are correct that there will be a mega title released some years after part 3 that gives remake all the improvements that rebirth brought to the battle system etc.
Yeah put them into one game is like doing it all over again. But accessing them within one installation is easily doable.
3:19 Arc 2: Rebirth
they should do a reprint with all games in 1 package i would buy in heart beat. 1st in line lets call it FinalFantasy 7 lifestream or Final Fantasy 7 Return to Midgar as the bundled name.
Would definelty be something coming in good time for the PS6.
What annoyed me the most, part 1 was released on the PS4 and Part 2 was released on the PS5
Closest thing I could see is just a collection version like Kingdom Hearts or Uncharted 1-3 where it takes you to a menu where you select the game.
Just need to make it a launcher with all 3 to choose from in the main menu.
Like Mario 3d all stars
I really hope they will do this when its all over but most games dont and i really dont think they will/ it wont be possible
I would pay a good amount of money for a revised version, remove all the extra none important stuff in remake, and mix it all together.
I would be into that, or turn it into endgame content?
Like that dungeon you go into to find Wedge & then later fight the Behemoth 0 in.
Cut it from the story, but have it explorable in the endgame after regaining access to sector 5 & 6 as a late game dungeon.
Do that with as much of the superfluous content as possible and give us as tight of a golden path as possible. I found both these games very enjoyable to straight shot on hard mode.
What’s the non-important stuff?
@MadaxeMunkeee like finding stupid cats!!
Going twise to the sewers!
About 60% of the midgard section. 😆
I feel like a large majority of Rebirth is extra non important stuff, felt kind of like a vacation and minigame simulator. But I mean I never played the OG so this could’ve been a sort of chill side questy part of the overarching story when it was one whole game.
@TakiGamesOfficial nahhh all that was in the original. And it was why i loved it as mush as i did. That's what gave it charm!
I can easily see all the Pokemon regions connected more than I could see the FF7 remake trilogy being combined together.
There’s way too much rebalancing that has to happen for that to work and if you get into stream lining the story to 20 hours it gets even more impossible because the greatest thing this trilogy does is flesh out the locations of the world
on a side note they should reprint final fantasy 7 hd remaster/ port of the original game bring to all consoles physical release. switchps4,ps5 . also if this happened i would like to see modes added outside of storyline from main menu 1. grind mode, player can play any/all of only open world map fight as they please without having to go through story in grind mode fight,grind level up characters maxed out with all weapons and materia, equiptment along the way as you level up. 2. is boss mode without story playthrough players can fight any/all bosses you level up from grind mode to be able to beat bosses and 3. mini game mode players can play any mini game without storyline. this needs to happen besides the modes add ons not dlc installed on physical game. should get this for new hardware yes we got ff7 on switch but it was bundled with ff8 i want a print of its own. plus the modes would be a nice touch to add. please comment and share if you think they should do this. comment and subscribe video.
I would love to see it, but I don't think SE would fund that.
But then again, this 7 trilogy has surprised me everytime. You never know 😊
I think from a marketing perspective, there are a couple of reasons we may eventually see this.
5 & 10 year anniversary Remasters & 10th+ Gen Console remasters could possibly benefit from the Buzz of a Directors cut where they all become 1 big game. I think it would appeal to people who passed on it first time round by being episodic. Marks like myself would also buy it again.
They could also argue that its 3 Tripple A games, with 2 A's left on the cutting room floor, making it the worlds first 7 A game...
Also... It is 95% the same story as the OG with the end sections being very different in their presentation. I think It wouldn't be a huge task to create an alternative version of the game that tells the original story, they wouldn't have to change all that much.
If this was in the form of a directors cut I think it would create a lot of Marketing buzz and revitalise a section of the community that has disengaged from the R trilogy project. Also, suckers like me would buy it yet again.
Or they could just bundle the games together and sell all 3 in one package. Like a remaster.
Let's be real when part 3 comes out they will sell a triple pack that has the entire trilogy.
also where is dirge of cerberus remake. this game could and will be so much and better of a game if it was remade.
Let them get through the actual game of FF7 before trying to do that
@@Step43099 i agree but 7 remake actually wont be fully complete without this. im just crossing fingers thats all . they talk about more games in the ff7 universe this would be one to add.
They could patch REMAKE and REBIRTH so that there is a natural progression with the party, weapons, materias, a difficulty setting of its own for better balance, etc. That way, it really feels like we are continuing our playthrough when starting the next game. Then when Part 3 releases, we just progress from REBIRTH.
Rather than using New Game in REBIRTH and PART 3, we load the completed save file from the previous game and it automatically starts the new game with your previous party setup.
I like the idea that elemental materias could be like: Fire (REMAKE), Fira (REBIRTH), Firaga (Part 3).
one day in the far future once a generation has passed, i'm sure this will happen.
They would need to redo the games again. The games as they are now only work because they are seperated. For Hardmode specifically they could make it a baseline mode. Easy being targeted towards kids/new gamers, normal towards regular, casual gamers and hardmode for the sweaty gamers, no extra rewards. The books we now get out of hardmode can be redistributed across the games side content. Sync abilities may need to be scrapped and only be something you can pull of against special encounters or within the VR fights, that would make balancing and environmental design way easier. But biggest factor will be how distribute weapons and materia across the game. Weapons may end up easy, for materia maybe unlocking the next stage at Chadely via materia fusion or something (like fusing 3 leveled vita materia into a vitra one)
When it comes to balancing gameplay for a "complete" FF7 remake, I think a good way to do it would be them expanding the folio system and working it into FF7 Remake. Let the player unlock stuff insdie the characters base kits. Such as how cloud going from Remake to Rebirth inexplicably gained all these new base abilities, like his ranged attacks, or his arial gap closer thing. They can expand on the abilities the characters have access to without expending atb, or mp, or synergy, and potentially give modifiers to them as well as something else to level.
That way they could reward you with some kind of Folio currency. Then bring back weapon leveling from Remake so you can detach SP from the folio system. And of course you can keep the party level system as well rewarding you with more branches of you folios as you do more side content as an additional reward. I think the folio system should be expanded in general, so if they made is a massive sprawling multi branch skill tree for every character, on top deep weapon customization from Remake, and the materia system, you could build your team to be EXACTLY what you want them to be, and it would be super rewarding.
Dogtown is probably the closest games have come to rendering a dense open world. Anyone whose played Phantom Liberty understands the compromise the hardware makes is places. Security checkpoints be damned, Midgar is Dogtown, The Continent is Night City.
Even then, Rebirth made it clear it would take rendering the world like Ni no Kuni 2 to sell the scale
Yes, I would like the idea of combining the games and better unifying the combat systems, menus, etc. as well as allowing us to carry weapons, EXP, AP, materia, etc. over to the other games. I suppose that could radically cause SE to have to revise a lot, but just a thought.
Modders could probably figure something out when all 3 are out on PC. It would require a lot of messing around with levels and available materia, equipment, etc.
Yeah modders should be able to figure that out by 2032 😂
@@Tangozzz Yeah I'm not holding my breath.
Weiss is an absolute cupcake but take away True Strike and I wouldn't even bother with him. 😂
Wouldn’t be against it
All of his "problems" could totally be dealt with. I'm not saying it wouldn't take effort but there are massive rpgs that already deal with problems similar to these, they are solvable. I think regardless if square doesn't do it modders will, it'll just take longer. But I mean look at new threat 2.0 thats a mod that completly changes the base game into almost a whole new experience or enderal for skyrim that makes an entirely new game from the skyrim assests like it will be done the only questions are when and how good they are.
I would love an excuse to buy all 3 of them 2 times
I dont think so but if they did it id buy it. It would be cool to carry over data from game to game
I don't think they'll make this into a mega game, each game was designed from the ground up as a standalone title, at this point it truly is a trilogy, and it would make about as much sense as making a mega movie out of the Star Wars films, LotR, or The Matrix. It makes more sense because you typically watch a movie all in one go but play games in pieces, but it also makes less sense because it would take drastic changes and tons of work to rebalance the gameplay. I could maybe see them releasing all 3 in a single collection, but by the time that would happen games will probably be digital only anyway, so I'm not sure they actually would at that point. It would be cool though!
Wouldn't that just be how it works if you already have Remake and Rebirth installed on your PS5/PC?
You already have the assets on your drive and so anything in the 3rd game would just be updating those assets in Midgar (adding extra areas for the re-entry) and updates to areas from Rebirth based on story?
Maybe it's just me, but that's how I'm picturing it 😂
Good way to sell copies of Remake and Rebirth as a bundle for those jumping in only on the 3rd game 😂😂😂
I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect. I’d love it, of course I would. They just wouldn’t do it. If they do, I think this project becomes way too complicated. It could work, but this really would have had to have been the goal from the start. Otherwise it necessitates what is effectively a FFVII Remake trilogy Remake. It makes no business sense. I think taking a critical eye to their trilogy and making them one seamless experience would be an interesting effort, but too much about this is conflicting on principle.
I fully expect Square will do this 1-3 years after the release of Part 3. A chance to go back and unify the entire trilogy back into a single cohesive game and sell it all over again for another $70...or more, frankly...is totally within the realm of possibility at this point. Square has demonstrated that this trilogy is the golden child, they are throwing everything they have at it. "Reasonable" is not a concern.
0:53 sir .... gen x doesnt have to every single region but should have all the gimmicks in it lol its the only game allowed to do it
Good vid, I've been mulling this over myself.
Another reason they may consider this is that it is 95% the same story as the OG with the end sections being very different in their presentation. I don't think it would be a huge task (relatively speaking) to create an alternative version of the game that tells the original story, they wouldn't have to change all that much.
I think this could be a big marketing move to make, either after the trilogy is done or for an anniversary or remaster Directors Cut.
FF7 Remake Classic Edition or Classic story.
I think there is a large section of the fan base that has been turned off by the approach of the R-trilogy, this would be a nice way to get their mone... I mean get them interested in the project again.
Would be like a New Slurm vs Classic Slurm like situation (see link below for context).
ua-cam.com/video/1mDsjeEj1jc/v-deo.htmlsi=WxYiVCEGpuaA6zqX&t=43
1:44 coming to playstation 6 LOL remastered collection remake xD
If you take away all the filler its definitely possible
the point would be to make it all work together adding some new scenes and re working the level and battling system to match the high levels and level cap should be 200 and the whole materia thing you talked about made 0 sense the original game worked exactly like that and was fine and again the point would be to remake it all to make it work and worth buying the whole package again. who doesn't want high level fight and high level weapons why would any of this be bad?
Yes it is called Final Fantasy VII and doesnt have unnecessary gameplay segments, better pacing and has a way better story.
But they already did that, it’s called the OG Final Fantasy 7 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, with how bloated Rebirth is, they could have made this all into one game. Zach’s inclusion in the story is so unnecessary and this whisper stuff has not paid off so far (we’ll see if they can pull it off in part 3 but I’m not holding my breath). I recently platinumed Rebirth so I’m just saying how I feel about this series. Just a missed opportunity to give us an actual remake.
It will in 2030s
your going too much into it man lol just enjoy product xD
They really should have split the game into only 2 parts. They could have gone from Midgar to Aerith's death in game 1 and finished the rest in game 2. The pacing of Remake and Rebirth is terrible, unfortunately. The sidequests also rarely add anything useful to the lore of the universe, and the idiotic fanservice with Zack really ruins the narrative, especially that interlude. What I feel is that they're trying to please every type of fan of the original game and the collection, which is why they didn't make it explicit whether Aerith really died, why they made that fight at the end of the Remake against Sephiroth similar to Advent Children, why they keep pushing Zack into the narrative unnecessarily, and that's when they end up valuing fanservice more than narrative coherence. The developers could very well have cut 90% of the Wall Market segment in the Remake, unfortunately the game could have had a much better pace if instead of limiting themselves to just Midgar, they had gone further in the game. In Rebirth, on the other hand, the story progresses extremely slowly, and instead of adding lots of new things to the lore and exploring the universe more, they opted for another route too.
If there's enough OG purists who are mad enough and have the coding skills along with the time to burn then it's possible with the PC versions.
Just base it like the original games... you don't have to get chadly or whatever else involved, just use the graphics of the FF7R over the old game.
they are one big game lol theyre selling you disc one two and three and possibly an advent children disc 4 so... lol look forward to it and take care of yourselves
Just finished rebirth and I threw my controller on the wall for scraping the whole experience at the sephiroth fight I am not buying the 3rd fuck it
I know that I can put all 3 of them in one MASSIVE garbage bin...