Without Jesus Christ we would have been as we're separated from God because of our sins, Jesus is the one that reconnects us back to God as we can't save ourselves
@IrfanAli-so5hh He's actually both, but we as humans and sinners can't save ourselves.. It doesn't matter how many good deads you do, without accepting Jesus Christ as your saviour there's no possibility to go to heaven. Accept Jesus verbally acknowledge him as the son of of God, and that he was crucified and rose on the third day..boom God will cleanse your heart and you'll receive forgiveness by the grace of God so don't wait
@@selviisrael8236 If jesus were the only way explain why thousands of prophets were sent? Jesus in your bibles literally says he is the way (TO) the father who is also in your bible "the one true God". lol
@lennixsingh626 I don't understand why this gentleman is standing in the street and shouting at others and screaming. Is he having no work. Will you people allow some others to speak in a Muslim country. Lord Jesus Christ is the only way life and truth. Only way to heaven. Every knee has to bow before Jesus . Lord Jesus name is the powerful name. The name leading to eternal life.
He said he “GOD” can do what ever he wants when asked can GOD Die ! Then when asked can GOD stop Existing he says come on that’s not possible. There lies the inconsistency
God would not turn back on everything he said and come up with such a poorly written self contradictory book. If Allah only gives clear warnings to people in their own language then this disqualifies the Quran for most of humanity. Quran 14:4
@@peterhwang352 That verse says that Allah sends messengers who speak a nation’s language to them. It does not say that the message in that language is bound to that particular nation. Muhammad (peace be upon him) was sent to the Arabs, thus his revelation was in Arabic. The messengers merely CLARIFY the message in a people’s language for them. Islam then expanded to different nations and these nations adopted dialects of Arabic to be able to learn and understand the Quran, so the true and authentic meaning is not closed off to such people. Today we can learn Arabic and it is widely accessible to us. 4th most spoken language worldwide. We can even access words from the Quran in our own languages. There are many English translations of the Quran. The only difference is we do not solely abide by these translations and will always recite according to the Arabic because this is the pure, untouched and preserved meaning and words of Allah. There are no contradictions in the Quran and no piece of literature like it has ever been produced under remotely similar circumstances. May Allah guide you after you use the eyes he has given you to see how your argument has been crushed
The Bible say God cannot die and then why do the Christins believe in the death of their god? Edit - the amount of Christians that do not read their scripture does not surprise me. They believe what their Pastors tells them rather than seeking knowledge from its scripture, lately being littered which I had been picking up. Sadly, you can never change the ignorant though they are benefiting for what the world has giving them, a sealed emptiness inside them. Placebo effect honestly for these Christians.
You have to remember Jesus had two natures. Humanity and divinity. Since his natures are united, there IS a divine sacrifice. His human nature, might have died, but his divine nature exists and is eternal.
@@reubenabraham1885 But it was simple, who ever die, that's not God. Did Jesus die? According to the christian the answer would be yes so Jesus is not God. Forget about the mental gymnastic of flesh or soul or spirit, divine nature vs human nature. We are talking about Jesus himself.
@@reubenabraham1885 If Jesus had died then his purpose of excuting the false Messiah will be meaningless. This is what both the Jews and Muslims believe in, somehow not the Christians?
I bear witness that there is no God but ALLAH and I bear witness that Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of ALLAH Whoever reads this please testify for me on the Day of Judgement that I believe in One true ALLAH
On the Day of Judgment, Allah will ask me: Did I call people to Islam? Oh, those who read this, let your eyes be witnesses and Allah is a witness, I call on myself and you, fear Allah, perform prayer, do good and seek the pleasure of the Almighty, and avoid the forbidden. May Allah guide us the correct path which he had kept rewarded. I invite my Muslim & non-Muslim brothers and sisters to accept Islam follow the sunnah be regular on their prayers and Quran recitation and to stay humble & also be regular to Halal ... Aameen Summa Aameen
If god created the universe, he cant be IN the universe because there was NO universe. God cant be IN his creation, because his creation is limited. If unlimited chooses to become limited, its no longer UNLIMITED.
Who is Allah? [112 : 1] Say, "He is Allāh, [who is] One, [112 : 2] Allāh, the Eternal Refuge. [112 : 3] He neither begets nor is born, [112 : 4] Nor is there to Him any equivalent." - The unity, Quran
I struggle With salah but i Will start but think whalla at same time if god dont accept or appreciate i just start pray one salah for Now compare from never prayed before then i dont see how to continue islam at all and if i continue But if i just pray one Now and it takes me to pray more salahs after many years then what? THANKFUL FOR ANSWERS AMIN! HELP ME OUT
God is one. God don't confuse people. God don't multiplier or do anything that will make the creation ended up worhiping other than God truly.... It's the human itself who created that...
Matthew 4:1 Jesus was tempted James 1:13 God cannot be tempted John 1:29 Jesus was seen John 4:12 No man has ever seen God Acts 2:22 Jesus was and is a man sent by god Numbers 23:19 God is not human Hebrews 5:89 Jesus had to grow and learn Isaiah 40:28 God doesn't need to learn Corinthians 15: 3-4 Jesus Died (according to Cristians ) Timothy 1:17 God cannot Die Hebrew 5:7 Jesus needed salvation Luke 1:37 God doesn't need Salvation John 4:6 Jesus grow weary Isaiah 40:28 God cannot grow weary Mark 4:38 Jesus Slept Psalm 121: 2-4 God Doesn't Sleep John 5:19 Jesus is not all powerful Isaiah 45: 5-7 God is All powerful Mark 13:32 Jesus wasn't all knowing Isaiah 46:9 God is all knowing Matthew 21:10-11 10 When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is this?” 11 The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the PROPHET from Nazareth in Galilee.”
@0786AHA No, in Islam I believe in Islam it is not permitted for Allah to have a Son. Neither is he known as a Father in any of his 99 Titles. And it's the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as opposed to Ishmael. Jews Worship the same God, however they obey the Torah and are still waiting for the Messiah.
If God comes and he leaves a scripture, that scripture must explicitly say "I am God". Because when he clearly claims and someone doesn't believe, on the end of days that person has nothing to stand on and may be punished. If the scripture says " I might be God", then there is doubt in the heart of the people. At then end of days, that person might say, "you wasn't clear enough, why am I being punished for you not being clear". If we are debating today Yes and No about the New Testament, then this should make Christian think, like "what is it that I am seeing". Is it because of the Holy Spirit that I am seeing it or is it the blind indoctrination of the church. Like I said, if you have text that says "I might" be able to ride a bicycle, car, truck. How can you defend with all your energy to ask someone to give his trust to give up their new bicycle, car or truck?
At least this brother agrees that God can't lie and it doesn't befit his attributes 😊😊 Many chirtians say that we Muslims limit god ,, also them (christians) say God became flesh so, he was fully human and fully God.. Why he became human ?? He humbled and limited himself,,, so is that not limiting God ??😂😂
Christians can't differentiate between "what God is" and "what God does" The actions of God can never contradict his essence or what he is ,exemple, God is Immortal so by default he doesn't die God is All-knowing he can't be ignorant, he is All-powerful he can't become weak ....... Christians By saying the God can do anything they are limiting him .
@ Christian: God can do everything!!! Even die!!! Muslim: Can u become God? Christian: No Muslim: So God cannot become u Christian: That's right Muslim: So u're going against ur original statement
Not true, Allah has never said that. He has made it very clear in Surah-Ikhlas. “Say: He is Allah, the One and Only" "Allah, the Eternal, Absolute" "He begetteth not, nor is He begotten" "And there is none like unto Him"
Additionally the video has made it very clear: God cannot be a mountain, it doesn’t befit his nature. (The mountain is His creation), Hence it applies to human beings since Human Beings are creation of the Creator.
@@irippiri2847 6:101 In The Quran He is˺ the Originator of the heavens and earth. How could He have children when He has no mate? He created all things and has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of everything.
@@magicman9552 He explained the difference between what God is and what God does in response to Christians responding to us saying god can't be /isn't a human (Jesus)
@@Dghjk-f3i I heard his explanation and found it wanting. He's describing what he thinks doesn't befit God, and then makes the false assumption that a triune God is the same as multiple gods. There's no real foundation to his position.
@@magicman9552 _Jesus 100% god , father 100% god , spirit 100% god , father is not the son , son is not the spirit, father is not spirit, is 300% god which is 3 gods _ back to what I said before, god does not become a human because it's against his nature (I don't think I need to tell you how it is against his nature) just as god does not lie because it's against his nature
@@reubenabraham1885 preach mode activate let me remind you that god cannot die but you said he die for our sins so that mean he is not a god he is not immortal so by your definition god can be killed tq i rest my kes have a good day sir or ma'am
If he created other gods then by definition they have a beginning which means they can’t be God, nothing is like him, nothing can be co-equal to him. He is the one. Oops I just destroyed the trinity
God can't die because he says so even in the Bible. If he is immortal then whoever died in the cross if at all was never God to begin with. If that's limiting God then guess what God limited himself
God has graciously limited himself many times to reveal himself to the people he loves. He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. He shared a meal with Abraham. He wrestled with Jacob. And his Spirit was upon Moses, the seventy elders of Israel, and David. Numbers 11. 1 Samuel 16. Unless God limits himself to a finite temporal form we cannot interact with him.
You mean the time in the garden “god” was shouting and looking for Adam and didn’t know where he was? The all powerful doesn’t become the all helpless.
@OneTrueMessageFoundation let me ask you this, if they believe Jesus is god and god the father is in heaven. Even if jesus ''God'' dies he will go back to heaven and never have died in the process? cause we all believe life after death. So what do you mean by ''can god die?''
Fundaments Christians do not promote the idea of Jesus being God as this version of reality would have you believe. Jesus is the only begotten son of God who according to John 3.16 is mankind's way to redemption, why is this the only way back to God ? Because we are not in a fit state to approach the Lord directly and it is through the sacrifice made by the son ( the Word made flesh ) that we have the only means to seek redemption as explained in John 14.6 Only the new testament with the Gospel of mercy and hope for all that repent and thirst for righteousness will answer your questions about who is the God of this world 2 Corinthians 4.4 and what will the kingdom be like Revelation 21.4 read it and see for yourself, old KJV if you can get one.
The quaran says that Jesus is the Word of God coming from Allah and that the Torah and New Testament are also His Word. It is God's Word that defines what is befitting God not this man's opinion.
So what do you have from jesus exactly?? The wprd is 'be'. God said 'be' amd jesus existed and mary gave birth. Jesus spone gods word as did moses and mohammed and the other 100,000 propehts before them.
@aaaddf4572 the Quaran says go to the Bible for knowledge of Jesus. Allah called Jesus God and said that through him was the world created. It was He who lead Moses through the wilderness and He who took our punishment for sin.
@@jeremyteppig5517 did you read the verses before the one the argument is made about?? I know you havent becsuse you just cant cime to that conclusion or you dont know english which its clear you do
God is King and Jesus is the Word emanating from Him. It doesn't matter what a man thinks. It only matters what His word which cannot be corrupted or broken says. Go and read and then you will know.
@@jeremyteppig5517 islam doesnt say jesus word got corrupted, it says you dont have it and it was rejected(which you dont have anything from jesus himself). With your logic you should have words of every prophet, revelation and messages from all of them. Like jpspeh,noah, abraham, adam etc. Revelations and deutronomy warn people not to add to the book because they can. Quran was set for all mankind for the rest of time so god has promised to protect it itself. Jesus came for the people pf the time as he says in mathews fpr your sake. And i cannot follow something spread by the romans who killed the apostles and throught they crucified jesus. Its basically a roman jesus, we use quran as a supreme authrotiy to see whats been added. Amd yes its proven as verses are now been removed (which you can find with a google search) because christian scholars are proven that it was added previously
You're wrong. God DID lower Himself. God DID clothe Himself in flesh. God DID send His only begotten Son to die for you and for me. God CAN do whatever he wants. If God wanted to become a mountain...then it would be God in mountain form. "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the Father but through Me." - Isa ibn Maryam. God IS everlasting, and God's majesty is present in all things He has made. Human beings can do NOTHING to limit or contain the Almighty. WE ourselves cannot become a mountain...but God can do ALL THINGS, which would include becoming a mountain. The only paradox is how to get Satan off your back and Jesus in your heart!
God did not turn into a burning bush. That was a sign for moses to understand his speaking to god and not someone hiding behind a rock of something. God spoke to him in a way knowing moses will understand his speaking to god. So moses was with god at that event
If he can turn into his creation, what was the point of sending HUNDREDS of prophets and messengers throughout human history? Why not come down from the start in human form and explain everything... Your theory makes no sense.
If you only read Z bible. 1 Kings 8:27 "But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain Thee; how much less this house that I have built?" Isaiah 40:21-22 "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in". NOTHING CAN CONTAIN HIM NOT EVEN HUMAN BODY. SO STOP FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.
Allah creates, if allah jad a son than the son would be god too, so there will be more than 1 god. God cant steal either - because god owns everything. Same way - god creates everything. God does not see itself befitting to breed like the creation
Your "eternal god" is limited by death as according to you he was dead for 3 whole days. Not only that, he didn't know the hour as well as got out wrestled by Jacob and was begging Jacob to "let me go". Having children is a human attribute, your god is limited by a human attribute of having offspring.
Muslims limit God. The bible teaches Jesus is the Messiah. They believe that. But they deny Jesus had two natures. One of humanity and one of divinity. The Old Testament prophesied God would come in the flesh, in the person of Jesus Christ. This they deny, so, Muslims limit God. And yes, God died. How else would God have blood to purchase our salvation?
You guys need to WAKE UP. You are all saying God is not all powerful, by saying God can become both human, and God in the flesh. Look at the Dead Sea Scrolls, holidays such as Easter and Christmas, and is the most recorded person in hjs time. Even Pontius Pilate talked about him. 😂 Too easy
Having weakness isn't a sign of power, the same as becoming weak isn't a prove of power. We're not limiting God, we're staying true to the nature of God. God is all powerfull, so anything less powerfull wouldn't be God. God is the truth, so anything that has falsehood wouldn't be God. God is eternal, so anything that's not eternal isn't God. It's so simple that I thought it was a common sense, but I guess not.
What did you say God lies.hmmm in bible God don't lie but in quran Alla lie.we Christian we believed that can lie thats the deference with muslim and Christian 😅
1 Corinthians 9:20-22: "To the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), that I might win those under the law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some." Pretty much Corinthians advocates deception to convert people...😂😅 Now knowing this how can you trust anything Bible says? 🤔💯☑️☑️☑️
Muslims never seem to understand that all of the apostles of jesus agreed that he was The eternal word of God in the flesh. It just gos over their understanding
The All-powerful doesn't become the All-helpless.
Without Jesus Christ we would have been as we're separated from God because of our sins, Jesus is the one that reconnects us back to God as we can't save ourselves
@@helenandersson1320 then connect to God, pray to God. Not to the one who helped u connect.
@@helenandersson1320So Jesusﷺ is not God, He is a connector to God?
@IrfanAli-so5hh He's actually both, but we as humans and sinners can't save ourselves..
It doesn't matter how many good deads you do, without accepting Jesus Christ as your saviour there's no possibility to go to heaven.
Accept Jesus verbally acknowledge him as the son of of God, and that he was crucified and rose on the third day..boom God will cleanse your heart and you'll receive forgiveness by the grace of God so don't wait
I will ask god for forgiveness myself. No need for the blood of jesus.
God is always one , grateful for being a muslim😭
@@selviisrael8236 who worshipped stone?
@@selviisrael8236 muslims does not worship stones my friend
@ we don’t worship stones. We worship the one and only god Allah (SWT) just to clear up the fogginess in ur brain
@@luvv-yunaaa correct
Is going around qaaba 7 times , and cross hills 7 times , same what pagans did ?
Very clear explanation, I am a non english speaking person & Alhamdulillah, the explanation is very easy to understand.
A polite, logical, and a critical person
Hope allah directs him to the path that will satisfy his fitrah
Only Lord Jesus is the path. Lord Jesus Christ is the only way life and truth.
@@selviisrael8236 If jesus were the only way explain why thousands of prophets were sent? Jesus in your bibles literally says he is the way (TO) the father who is also in your bible "the one true God". lol
@lennixsingh626 I don't understand why this gentleman is standing in the street and shouting at others and screaming. Is he having no work. Will you people allow some others to speak in a Muslim country. Lord Jesus Christ is the only way life and truth. Only way to heaven. Every knee has to bow before Jesus . Lord Jesus name is the powerful name. The name leading to eternal life.
@@selviisrael8236 When you don’t have an answer, you start preaching 😂
@@selviisrael8236 so can your god lie? Your god cam do anything right?
They need to stop potraying God as a human being.
Perfectly explained and youve shaken his logic very fast. Alhamdulillah.
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
@@ABU_AL-ZUBAIR ❤️❤️❤️.
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Subhan Allah!!! What an explanation!! May Allah bless the brother and increase him. May Allah guide the other brother. Ameen.
Peaceful conversation ❤
He said he “GOD” can do what ever he wants when asked can GOD Die ! Then when asked can GOD stop Existing he says come on that’s not possible. There lies the inconsistency
Good argument. You should study the book Kitab at tawheed if you haven't. It will strengthen your dawah.
For christians God can do whatever He want until its convenient to them
You throw it back😂😂
God would not turn back on everything he said and come up with such a poorly written self contradictory book. If Allah only gives clear warnings to people in their own language then this disqualifies the Quran for most of humanity. Quran 14:4
@@peterhwang352 That verse says that Allah sends messengers who speak a nation’s language to them. It does not say that the message in that language is bound to that particular nation. Muhammad (peace be upon him) was sent to the Arabs, thus his revelation was in Arabic. The messengers merely CLARIFY the message in a people’s language for them. Islam then expanded to different nations and these nations adopted dialects of Arabic to be able to learn and understand the Quran, so the true and authentic meaning is not closed off to such people. Today we can learn Arabic and it is widely accessible to us. 4th most spoken language worldwide. We can even access words from the Quran in our own languages. There are many English translations of the Quran. The only difference is we do not solely abide by these translations and will always recite according to the Arabic because this is the pure, untouched and preserved meaning and words of Allah. There are no contradictions in the Quran and no piece of literature like it has ever been produced under remotely similar circumstances. May Allah guide you after you use the eyes he has given you to see how your argument has been crushed
@lymlife9771 Dam. May Allah guide all the non Muslims. Ameen.
@lymlife9771👍👍
@@peterhwang352 so can your god lie? Your god cam do anything right?
*ALLAHU ALLAHU ALLAHU AKBAR* ☝️☝️☝️ ❤❤❤.
MashaAllah superb dawah...
The way you all answer the people are excellent...
May Allah bless u all immensely and accept all your hardwork.
جزاكم الله خيرا
The Bible say God cannot die and then why do the Christins believe in the death of their god?
Edit - the amount of Christians that do not read their scripture does not surprise me. They believe what their Pastors tells them rather than seeking knowledge from its scripture, lately being littered which I had been picking up. Sadly, you can never change the ignorant though they are benefiting for what the world has giving them, a sealed emptiness inside them. Placebo effect honestly for these Christians.
Besides, it doesn't make sense for God who created the entire universe to be killed his creation wish is human.
You have to remember Jesus had two natures. Humanity and divinity. Since his natures are united, there IS a divine sacrifice. His human nature, might have died, but his divine nature exists and is eternal.
@@reubenabraham1885 But it was simple, who ever die, that's not God. Did Jesus die? According to the christian the answer would be yes so Jesus is not God. Forget about the mental gymnastic of flesh or soul or spirit, divine nature vs human nature. We are talking about Jesus himself.
@deenszxking6818 Jesus did die, to answer your question.
@@reubenabraham1885 If Jesus had died then his purpose of excuting the false Messiah will be meaningless. This is what both the Jews and Muslims believe in, somehow not the Christians?
beautiful discussion Masha' allah
God is powerful enough to do anything. Can God decide only Islam is true and Christian false?
You clearly didn't pay attention to the video
@abdullamomak3470 you didn't understand what i wrote
I bear witness that there is no God but ALLAH and I bear witness that Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of ALLAH
Whoever reads this please testify for me on the Day of Judgement that I believe in One true ALLAH
May Allah guide him to the true path
🤲🏻 ameen.
If you're a good person, you will not do bad things not because you can't. Because if you do, then you're no longer a good person.
Alhamdulillah, may Allah reward you, preserve you, give you success and happiness to you all.
On the Day of Judgment, Allah will ask me: Did I call people to Islam?
Oh, those who read this, let your eyes be witnesses and Allah is a witness, I call on myself and you, fear Allah, perform prayer, do good and seek the pleasure of the Almighty, and avoid the forbidden. May Allah guide us the correct path which he had kept rewarded. I invite my Muslim & non-Muslim brothers and sisters to accept Islam follow the sunnah be regular on their prayers and Quran recitation and to stay humble & also be regular to Halal ... Aameen Summa Aameen
masyaAllah...once ive been ask the same thing...now got the answer....JazaKALLAH hukairan khatira.
Can the queen kiss the feet of her maid? Yes. But will she? No, it's against her nature.
Subhan Allah.
" god become a human being we put that in that same category " 💀❤️🔥❤️🔥respect wow , that's what am talking about 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Patience is such a virtue Alhumdulillah ([All] praise is [due] to God Almighty). No wonder it's regarded so high in our religion.
All this serious discussion and belief in fairytales really makes me smile.
SubhanAllah ❤
If god created the universe, he cant be IN the universe because there was NO universe.
God cant be IN his creation, because his creation is limited. If unlimited chooses to become limited, its no longer UNLIMITED.
Christian: "You're limiting God then"
Me: "So God can die?"
Christian: "No"
Me: "Then you are also limiting God"
Bro just smashed back
When it befits Christians, the limit and don't limit god
The christiane capacity to comprehend the concept of God baffled me.
Who is Allah?
[112 : 1] Say, "He is Allāh, [who is] One,
[112 : 2] Allāh, the Eternal Refuge.
[112 : 3] He neither begets nor is born,
[112 : 4] Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
- The unity, Quran
THIS one thing Christians don't get it, idk why
Nice explanation.
I struggle With salah but i Will start but think whalla at same time if god dont accept or appreciate i just start pray one salah for Now compare from never prayed before then i dont see how to continue islam at all and if i continue But if i just pray one Now and it takes me to pray more salahs after many years then what?
THANKFUL FOR ANSWERS AMIN! HELP ME OUT
Christian enters chat, logic exits chat
If you can’t have to schippers on a ship , how do you ever think there can be multiple Gods steering the universe and everything within it 🤣🤣🤣
Kid is a walking double standard
God is one.
God don't confuse people.
God don't multiplier or do anything that will make the creation ended up worhiping other than God truly....
It's the human itself who created that...
ALLAH is the greatest YA ALLAH☝🏼👑💚💚💚💚💚❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🕋💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍
Matthew 4:1 Jesus was tempted
James 1:13 God cannot be tempted
John 1:29 Jesus was seen
John 4:12 No man has ever seen God
Acts 2:22 Jesus was and is a man sent by god
Numbers 23:19 God is not human
Hebrews 5:89 Jesus had to grow and learn
Isaiah 40:28 God doesn't need to learn
Corinthians 15: 3-4 Jesus Died (according to Cristians )
Timothy 1:17 God cannot Die
Hebrew 5:7 Jesus needed salvation
Luke 1:37 God doesn't need Salvation
John 4:6 Jesus grow weary
Isaiah 40:28 God cannot grow weary
Mark 4:38 Jesus Slept
Psalm 121: 2-4 God Doesn't Sleep
John 5:19 Jesus is not all powerful
Isaiah 45: 5-7 God is All powerful
Mark 13:32 Jesus wasn't all knowing
Isaiah 46:9 God is all knowing
Matthew 21:10-11
10 When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is this?”
11 The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the PROPHET from Nazareth in Galilee.”
God can die : yes, he can do whatever he wants.
God can lie : that doesn't make any sense.
bro, do and can't is not the same.
God is all truth, so him lying would be a contradiction of what God is. That would not put a limit on God. That’s illogical.
Muslims, turn away from your wicked ways, repent, and seek God, our Jesus. He is the light of this earth.
No
No
No
Sorry No...Jesus is not God...Jesus is Messenger of God...
Christians be like: GoD dIeD...
Not comparing Apples with Apples since Allah is not the Judeo-Christian God
The God of Moses is one. Not one in three. 🕎S don't worship the Trinity. How is it judeocristian God?
@0786AHA No, in Islam I believe in Islam it is not permitted for Allah to have a Son. Neither is he known as a Father in any of his 99 Titles. And it's the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as opposed to Ishmael. Jews Worship the same God, however they obey the Torah and are still waiting for the Messiah.
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imagine how Muslims are gonna feel whenever all knees will bow to the just judge Jesus
If God comes and he leaves a scripture, that scripture must explicitly say "I am God". Because when he clearly claims and someone doesn't believe, on the end of days that person has nothing to stand on and may be punished.
If the scripture says " I might be God", then there is doubt in the heart of the people. At then end of days, that person might say, "you wasn't clear enough, why am I being punished for you not being clear".
If we are debating today Yes and No about the New Testament, then this should make Christian think, like "what is it that I am seeing". Is it because of the Holy Spirit that I am seeing it or is it the blind indoctrination of the church.
Like I said, if you have text that says "I might" be able to ride a bicycle, car, truck. How can you defend with all your energy to ask someone to give his trust to give up their new bicycle, car or truck?
Has anyone ever asked about the term **kattar Muslims** and the things they do in the name of religion?
(Not attacking , just asking)
what is Kattar? sounds like an urdu word..
At least this brother agrees that God can't lie and it doesn't befit his attributes 😊😊
Many chirtians say that we Muslims limit god ,, also them (christians) say God became flesh so, he was fully human and fully God..
Why he became human ??
He humbled and limited himself,,, so is that not limiting God ??😂😂
Thats why jesus resurrected himself after 3 days.
Jesus is King. Amen
Christians can't differentiate between "what God is" and "what God does"
The actions of God can never contradict his essence or what he is ,exemple, God is Immortal so by default he doesn't die
God is All-knowing he can't be ignorant, he is All-powerful he can't become weak .......
Christians By saying the God can do anything they are limiting him .
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We can ask him if he can become God, if he cannot that means God cannot become him, which means he's limiting God
What?
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Christian: God can do everything!!! Even die!!!
Muslim: Can u become God?
Christian: No
Muslim: So God cannot become u
Christian: That's right
Muslim: So u're going against ur original statement
But Allah Says He Needs A Mate To Have A Son, If That’s Not Being Limited Then What Is
Not true, Allah has never said that.
He has made it very clear in Surah-Ikhlas.
“Say: He is Allah, the One and Only"
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute"
"He begetteth not, nor is He begotten"
"And there is none like unto Him"
Additionally the video has made it very clear:
God cannot be a mountain, it doesn’t befit his nature. (The mountain is His creation),
Hence it applies to human beings since Human Beings are creation of the Creator.
@@irippiri2847 6:101 In The Quran He is˺ the Originator of the heavens and earth. How could He have children when He has no mate? He created all things and has ˹perfect˺ knowledge of everything.
@@irippiri2847 So Why You Said Allah Never Said This???
It does sound like a subjective argument to me.
@@magicman9552
He explained the difference between what God is and what God does in response to Christians responding to us saying god can't be /isn't a human (Jesus)
@@Dghjk-f3i I heard his explanation and found it wanting. He's describing what he thinks doesn't befit God, and then makes the false assumption that a triune God is the same as multiple gods. There's no real foundation to his position.
@@magicman9552 Trinity or human god , both are in Christianity
@@Dghjk-f3i What point are you making? The trinity is not the same as 3 gods
@@magicman9552
_Jesus 100% god , father 100% god , spirit 100% god , father is not the son , son is not the spirit, father is not spirit, is 300% god which is 3 gods
_ back to what I said before, god does not become a human because it's against his nature (I don't think I need to tell you how it is against his nature) just as god does not lie because it's against his nature
What can you tell to a hindu then if your god does random things? Christians?
If God can be a man & can die too so can God be a Satan?
Jesus Christ is an exact representaion of the nature of God
so god can die that mean he is not immortal then? ok....
@@Don_Burako He had two natures. Divine and human. His human nature died, while his divine nature exists.
@@reubenabraham1885 that means he is not god tq
@@Don_Burako Like I said, Jesus also had a divine nature. He is God.
@@reubenabraham1885 preach mode activate let me remind you that god cannot die but you said he die for our sins so that mean he is not a god he is not immortal so by your definition god can be killed tq i rest my kes have a good day sir or ma'am
If he created other gods then by definition they have a beginning which means they can’t be God, nothing is like him, nothing can be co-equal to him. He is the one. Oops I just destroyed the trinity
God can't die because he says so even in the Bible. If he is immortal then whoever died in the cross if at all was never God to begin with. If that's limiting God then guess what God limited himself
God has graciously limited himself many times to reveal himself to the people he loves. He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. He shared a meal with Abraham. He wrestled with Jacob. And his Spirit was upon Moses, the seventy elders of Israel, and David. Numbers 11. 1 Samuel 16. Unless God limits himself to a finite temporal form we cannot interact with him.
You mean the time in the garden “god” was shouting and looking for Adam and didn’t know where he was? The all powerful doesn’t become the all helpless.
Can God become a man without ceasing to be God
That's a paradoxe
Can you define the meaning of the word "become"?
sounds very polytheistic..
@@ahmadruzaini4646 not poly religion
Why not he can not became man.Allbthings are possible to Him .He became man not we as human being created.
God says in the Quran that's it befits his majesty to be a man. We are making robots now. Does it make sense for us humans to become robots?
Bro is lost 😂
"You're limiting God!" And making Him into a man is not limiting Him?
@OneTrueMessageFoundation let me ask you this, if they believe Jesus is god and god the father is in heaven. Even if jesus ''God'' dies he will go back to heaven and never have died in the process? cause we all believe life after death. So what do you mean by ''can god die?''
Fundaments Christians do not promote the idea of Jesus being God as this version of reality would have you believe.
Jesus is the only begotten son of God who according to John 3.16 is mankind's way to redemption, why is this the only way back to God ? Because we are not in a fit state to approach the Lord directly and it is through the sacrifice made by the son ( the Word made flesh ) that we have the only means to seek redemption as explained in John 14.6
Only the new testament with the Gospel of mercy and hope for all that repent and thirst for righteousness will answer your questions about who is the God of this world 2 Corinthians 4.4 and what will the kingdom be like Revelation 21.4 read it and see for yourself, old KJV if you can get one.
The quaran says that Jesus is the Word of God coming from Allah and that the Torah and New Testament are also His Word. It is God's Word that defines what is befitting God not this man's opinion.
So what do you have from jesus exactly?? The wprd is 'be'. God said 'be' amd jesus existed and mary gave birth. Jesus spone gods word as did moses and mohammed and the other 100,000 propehts before them.
@aaaddf4572 the Quaran says go to the Bible for knowledge of Jesus. Allah called Jesus God and said that through him was the world created. It was He who lead Moses through the wilderness and He who took our punishment for sin.
@@jeremyteppig5517 did you read the verses before the one the argument is made about?? I know you havent becsuse you just cant cime to that conclusion or you dont know english which its clear you do
God is King and Jesus is the Word emanating from Him. It doesn't matter what a man thinks. It only matters what His word which cannot be corrupted or broken says. Go and read and then you will know.
@@jeremyteppig5517 islam doesnt say jesus word got corrupted, it says you dont have it and it was rejected(which you dont have anything from jesus himself). With your logic you should have words of every prophet, revelation and messages from all of them. Like jpspeh,noah, abraham, adam etc. Revelations and deutronomy warn people not to add to the book because they can. Quran was set for all mankind for the rest of time so god has promised to protect it itself. Jesus came for the people pf the time as he says in mathews fpr your sake. And i cannot follow something spread by the romans who killed the apostles and throught they crucified jesus. Its basically a roman jesus, we use quran as a supreme authrotiy to see whats been added. Amd yes its proven as verses are now been removed (which you can find with a google search) because christian scholars are proven that it was added previously
HIS NATURE IS LIES. SORRY.
You're wrong.
God DID lower Himself.
God DID clothe Himself in flesh.
God DID send His only begotten Son to die for you and for me.
God CAN do whatever he wants. If God wanted to become a mountain...then it would be God in mountain form.
"I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to the Father but through Me." - Isa ibn Maryam.
God IS everlasting, and God's majesty is present in all things He has made.
Human beings can do NOTHING to limit or contain the Almighty.
WE ourselves cannot become a mountain...but God can do ALL THINGS, which would include becoming a mountain.
The only paradox is how to get Satan off your back and Jesus in your heart!
Can god steal??
Gods not a shapeshifter, god creates, god doesnt breed.
Hmm thats weird God turned himself into a burning bush iam pretty sure he can turn into his creation
God did not turn into a burning bush. That was a sign for moses to understand his speaking to god and not someone hiding behind a rock of something. God spoke to him in a way knowing moses will understand his speaking to god. So moses was with god at that event
If he can turn into his creation, what was the point of sending HUNDREDS of prophets and messengers throughout human history? Why not come down from the start in human form and explain everything... Your theory makes no sense.
If you only read Z bible.
1 Kings 8:27
"But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain Thee; how much less this house that I have built?"
Isaiah 40:21-22
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in".
NOTHING CAN CONTAIN HIM NOT EVEN HUMAN BODY. SO STOP FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.
Jesus didnt die man. He Rose from death. Allah is Limited by He cant have a son, because He doesnt have a Partner. Allah is Limited by that
Allah creates, if allah jad a son than the son would be god too, so there will be more than 1 god. God cant steal either - because god owns everything. Same way - god creates everything. God does not see itself befitting to breed like the creation
He rose from the *death*, but he also didn't die.. Make it make sense bruh
Your "eternal god" is limited by death as according to you he was dead for 3 whole days. Not only that, he didn't know the hour as well as got out wrestled by Jacob and was begging Jacob to "let me go". Having children is a human attribute, your god is limited by a human attribute of having offspring.
This muslim talks nonsense.
Idk where the non sense is
Muslims limit God.
The bible teaches Jesus is the Messiah. They believe that. But they deny Jesus had two natures. One of humanity and one of divinity.
The Old Testament prophesied God would come in the flesh, in the person of Jesus Christ. This they deny, so, Muslims limit God.
And yes, God died. How else would God have blood to purchase our salvation?
Why does becoming the Messiah means having two natures? And again, we're not limiting God, we're just staying true to his nature.
sounds like Aztec human sacrifice..no thanks.
You guys need to WAKE UP. You are all saying God is not all powerful, by saying God can become both human, and God in the flesh. Look at the Dead Sea Scrolls, holidays such as Easter and Christmas, and is the most recorded person in hjs time. Even Pontius Pilate talked about him. 😂 Too easy
Having weakness isn't a sign of power, the same as becoming weak isn't a prove of power. We're not limiting God, we're staying true to the nature of God. God is all powerfull, so anything less powerfull wouldn't be God. God is the truth, so anything that has falsehood wouldn't be God. God is eternal, so anything that's not eternal isn't God. It's so simple that I thought it was a common sense, but I guess not.
What did you say God lies.hmmm in bible God don't lie but in quran Alla lie.we Christian we believed that can lie thats the deference with muslim and Christian 😅
You should read chronicles. And god doesnt lie in quran, lol.
God is all truth to the faithful.
Always making some random shi just to mock islam 🙄🤥
@Dex-uq8ff we not mocking ur religion we try to say in qoran alla lies.
1 Corinthians 9:20-22: "To the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), that I might win those under the law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some."
Pretty much Corinthians advocates deception to convert people...😂😅
Now knowing this how can you trust anything Bible says?
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The point is about who's creator and creation. So, if that in creation category, how it's becoming god?
If God existed. Calling him "your majesty" seems like not befitting either. He is not a king or emperor.
He is.
huh
@@jacobmacaree3063 Well, God is called the King of Kings. So... Still befitting 👍
He is.. what?
What talking you???
He is King. Al Malik, the King of Kings.
Muslims never seem to understand that all of the apostles of jesus agreed that he was The eternal word of God in the flesh.
It just gos over their understanding
So who’s a true God buddy?
@CandyTroll
I can prove to you that the quran Contradicts the word of god
@CandyTroll The Trinity, my brother in Christ.
@ than your religion ain’t true
@@RubenDeLosReyes-v5e you embarrassing
God is not limitted like the muslims God Allah.
Your God is also limited it’s in your book
@CandyTroll Allah is limitted in the quran.
1 Allah failed to protect muhammand from being posioned.
2. ALLAH is not all knowing nor wise.
@@RubenDeLosReyes-v5e which the verse?
@@zuraathira
Can Allah take on a human.
And dont give me the excuse that he doesnt need too.
@@zuraathira
2. The quran contradicts the word of god in the bible. You need proof.
you can't go right and left at the same time case it doesn't make sense
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